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Rarena
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Post Number: 685
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Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 06:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear E.J.

25,000 year cycle? The time it takes for one galactic rotation... the planet and it's star system (Sol in our case) will have different forces depending on the number of stars in the relative field of view... For example we are entering the dark cleft of the Milky Way (our Galaxy) and there are different forces on our star system from the Galactic center.

Some spirit forms reincarnate... others have evolved beyond that point so... no *all* spirtforms do not need to reincarnate. The area of the galactic rotation like a horoscope bound to star system patterns (constellations) determines only about 15% of the personality...

Overpopulation is due to material beings like you an me... and Creation will keep up and form new spirtforms (they are not course matter) whenever and in whatever amount they are needed. We tend to think "seperate body or borders or landlines" when we think of who we are... when really we are all part of one consciousness.

"Love is the pair of wings with which Creation has endowed man to be able to fly any / all emergency need, trouble and sorrow, and so can be happy and content."

The Consciousness block or area... total area... is able to dissolve or move... maybe a better way to understand it... no matter how many beings are living on this earth and is not only limited to this earth.
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1_lucky_guy
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Post Number: 16
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Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Rarena

Thank you for clarifying things for me.it all make sense now.
A friend asked me same question and didn't wana give wrong answer as so many info in my head and was not in the right setting to answer. But couldn't put it better as you just did so thank you.
I'm looking forward to participate here in the forum more often and and also someday hopefully in not too far future also make it to the sssc ... can't wait to look at BEAM and the eyes while shaking his hand and say a big thank you for everything ...

Salome :-).
E.J
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Scott
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In Special Bulletin 61 the following statement is made by Ptaah" when, as a result of malfunctions resulting from unexpected, external, cosmic influences, a great number of reactors burst, which claimed the lives of more than 48 million human beings."

Could this have been the result of Solar Flares, which affected the cooling systems or something similar?
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> Meteorite strikes, I think.
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Rarena
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Another idea is that solar storms can be just as devastating in effect as meteors: since we are rapidly approaching "The Dark Cleft of the Milky Way", we do not know if this may instigate EMF spikes due to large volumes of highly charged solar particles reacting with the earthman's electrical grid resulting in huge short circuiting power blackouts resulting in various meltdowns due to coolant reactors being inactivated... There are over three hundred nuclear power plants in the US... alone... some require as much as one million gallons of water per day to keep cool... The failure of six Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plants have shown us that...
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 411
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just a note to everyone discussing the state of the world here.

I very much appreciate the links people post, etc. but I think it's time that people in the FIGU community get really proactive. When you find articles, blogs, forums, etc. that have info on the environment, etc. and/or on things that are now happening, PLEASE start posting comments and especially links to Meier articles referencing his WARNINGS about all these things.

Sometimes you can't put actual links in online comments but you CAN put in the names of articles, like:

UFOs, Extraterrestrials and…the Weather

Atomic Energy: Human Insanity Knows No Limits

Sunspot Activity:
Potentially catastrophic for Earth electronics

...and point people towards them. It gets hard being the only one trying to draw people's attention to the warnings; it's not enough that we share this among ourselves.

So please feel free to dig in and start pointing to the Meier material online, along with your own comments. It's really close to useless in the big picture for us to just talk amongst ourselves and expect real progress.

MH
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Michael,
(#411)

I do this all the time with facebook. I post things with a question that makes the reader think. I often wonder though, there are people out there like ourselves, that have not had the opportunity to hear about the mission and all that pertains to it, who would be open and ready to hear.

So a big thumbs up for your post!

Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Rarena
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 06:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Dark Cleft of the Milky Way was mentioned in the report about 2012 by Billy: From Contact 476 here are some of the warnings from that text:

Through the very strong X-rays falling down on Earth, the magnetic field can suffer from very strong fluctuations. And through geomagnetic storms, power supplies and all electronic appliances can collapse, also those in the satellites, and the ISS may also suffer great damage or may even have a complete (power) failure. Such solar storms may lead to enormous natural catastrophes, and in a worst-case scenario, to a polarity reversal of the Earth’s magnetic field. What has to be said also is that such solar storms are forming up to a climax in an exact rhythm of eleven years, which is a normal occurrence, but in the year 2012 it may happen in an extraordinary magnitude. The Earth will fall victim to a very strong bombardment of hard radiation, which may have a very negative effect on the Earth’s ozone layer.

**************** end of Contact 476 note: the German version may be found on the Future of Mankind web site by James Moore.

Sorry I did not post this other warning before... It is interesting to note that some Scientists are predicting a low solar ejecta time period which would make logical sense knowing about the Dark Cleft of the Milky Way also mentioned later in the same contact, I think. It goes to show what we know about gravity is not complete either...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110614/ts_afp/usspacesun this link will go dead but you may paste it into your browser to see what scientists are claiming at this time about the solar ejecta... sunspots equal solar ejecta or at least prominences...

The positive to all this is of course get off the grid... get into a lifestyle that does not require constant use of fossil fuels, extravagant entertainment and constantly moving scenery... this may sound like "do as I say not as I do" since I like to be entertained and enjoy travel... but just the same... in my travels I have encounted hard times with no money, no place to live, no communication skills and these straighten you up a bit in understanding about how much you really don't know or are able to live without... also work for your lifestyle and stay away from crowds.

Salome
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eddie,

Yes, we needn't keep this a secret, the enemies of the truth are busy doing that all the time.
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 218
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael,

I just had a thought. Based on your experience thus far. Considering you have dealt with a variety of personalities and challenges, not to mention conflicting thinking of various types, is the following sound?

When time permits you, would you share any strategy or approach, that maybe we can help you with in any small (or large) way, that would help you and the mission make greater progress?

Without proselyting, is there anything we can do to help you and the others in your efforts? I feel it would be best to assist those such as yourself, who have been authorized to represent Billy, FIGU and the mission.

In other words, how can we be of assistance?

I have been a "corporate trainer" (gave and set up presentations, trainings and other events) for a variety of home-based business companies. So I can assist you with the set up and function of presentations and helping you by making sure everything runs smoothly. I have had spiritual discussions with a variety of clergy and know how to avoid conflict or aggression and am able to peacefully discuss subjects with them. This may be of help in group meetings and such perhaps. In areas of security, I have trained professional protective specialists and bodyguards, law enforcement and military, so I can help you with establishing and maintaining what ever "setting" you deem conducive to your presentation. Professional security is nothing like that portrayed by "tough-guy" amateurs.

Anything else we can be of assistance with that you feel would help with getting the word out to people?

Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Eddie,

Thanks for jumping in! At this point I think it would be a good idea to focus on that which any and everyone interested can take a hand in, using the most available means of dissemination, i.e. the internet, to bring the information into public awareness. Of course, as you recognize, I'm absolutely not suggesting any proselytizing or "missionizing", rather just that we use the actually plentiful opportunities provided by news sites, forums, blogs, radio and TV shows, etc. to present Meier's information in the context of the topics under discussion.

The reason I'm saying this is that the actual number of people one can possibly interact with from the comfort of their own home or office far exceeds that which they will be able to easily reach in person. And even getting public platforms at expos, conferences, etc. from which to present the Meier info are very rare. In fact, most so-called UFO conferences now blackball any presentations, probably because I have been unapologetically harsh on the parties involved, especially the profiteers who run around rehashing the lights-in-the-sky nonsense and - gag me! - "Roswell" that's supposed to pass for "UFO research". Truthfully, presenting at these events is, anyway, a form of "preaching to the choir" which, in true choir-like fashion, usually does nothing with the information anyway.

What I have been doing for some time is visiting sites like www.drudgereport.com, reuters, guardian (UK), yahoo, HuffingtonPost, etc. and searching the stories for things that pertain especially to the climate, weather, nuclear power, solar flares, overpopulation, environmental refugees, etc. I also think some people may know of, or already belong to, various other UFO, paranormal sites, etc. Most people are completely in the dark about the Meier material and of course the cause and effect nature of so much of what is going on in the world now.

As I mentioned in my earlier email, where it's possible people can put links to Meier material, or mention the names of the articles so people can search online and find them.

Now I can't guarantee what the results will be but I can say that I've been contacted by interested people, gotten radio interviews, etc. because someone saw a post of mine somewhere. This gives each interested person the opportunity to be proactive, creative and practice their own communication skills with people who are probably completely unaware of the Meier material.

I'll post an example of an email I sent today to the political group truthout.org (the links won't show up but it's not important). Please keep in mind, as I do, that very politicized organizations may be low on the level of even understanding, let alone accepting, the unique situation with the Meier material. But I occasionally take a shot at it, like this:

Dear Truthout.org,

The real magnitude of the disaster at Fukushima is still not fully reported, by either the mainstream or alternative media. Of course this is due to the greedy, materialistic agenda that supersedes all rational concerns about all life on the planet.

Please see this information on Fukushima (and related dangers of nuclear power plants). This article indicates that the possibility that all nuclear power plants, worldwide, are at risk, due to coming solar flares, storms, etc. that may shut down the electrical grid.

Doubtless, you have not heard of Mr. Meier and his decades of specific, impeccably accurate scientific information. You may want to review this article for further insight.

I do hope that you will peruse this information utilizing logical, critical thinking, especially since the source of the information is so highly controversial. However, the time must come when those with the interest and intelligence must transcend polarizing political thinking and deal with the plain hard facts...which pertain to all of us. We are in the deep trouble that confronts us now not despite politics but largely because of it.

Sincerely,

Michael Horn
Authorized American Media Representative
The Billy Meier Contacts
www.theyfly.com
..........................................................................

Now of course I am open to suggestions, various unexplored avenues of approach, etc. I think we have a lot of intelligent, creative people involved in the forum who may get some wonderful inspirations. Of course I don't suggest that people attack anyone in the process. I've engaged in some harsh confrontation, teasing, etc. but usually for as well thought out a purpose as I can. Mainly though, I try to inform, stimulate thinking, light a bit of a fire, etc.

Obviously you have some finely honed skills that you can probably translate into the online, "social media", networking worlds. All this being said, I welcome your and everyone else's comments, etc.

MH
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Lonnie
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Michael,

Although I think this thread should be in a different section, I am sure everyone appreciates your taking the lead as you have in this area. I know it's not easy and there is often not enough help.

Here are some suggestions written by Bernadette Brand, published in the FIGU-Bulletin Nr. 72, December, 2010. I am sure you have already read this, but I post here for everyone's benefit and interest. This has to do with the leadership of the Core Group 49 but the same applies to all study groups.

"In the inner circle of the study groups, in which only declared study-group members are allowed, who must also be passive members of FIGU Switzerland, predominantly the publicity work is organised and carried out, as, for example, information stands in various cities, lectures which are organised by study groups, internet contributions by the study groups or publicity activities, also in cooperation with the national group, as for example, readers' letters, interviews on radio and TV, and so forth, and so on."

Yes, there is much we can and must do in these areas. Another possible suggestion (my own) is to write letters to the editorial section of newspapers in response to views and opinions of the editorial staff and syndicated writers around the country. They will publish the letter or article in the editorial section even if the information is in disagreement with their own views and opinions.
Lonnie Morton/FIGU Passive Group
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 220
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Lonnie
(#314)

I'm grateful to your post. Your quoting FIGU-Bulletin Nr. 72 brought the importance of participation requirements (declared study-group members and passive membership). Unfortunately, I was hit with a very severe financial challenge and simultaneously endured something that forced me to make some major adjustments. The good news is that slowly everything is working out; much due to the teachings and my studies. Though in my heart and mind, my decision was made long ago to become a passive member, I have to accept the fact that I have yet to do so. Never the less, I do understand the reason and the importance of first becoming a passive group member. For otherwise, how would someone feel confident that I'm of like mind and like heart? :o)

I do see the wisdom in this, it would even be self-empowering for some. If all works according to plans, I will be submitting the application and small fees within the next few months and feel confident this will happen.

This served as a powerful motivator for me to really apply myself and make things happen so I can enjoy of this membership and friendships all passive members enjoy.

Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Cameronjamieson
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Micheal Horn
First of all well done with the "Silent Revolution Of Truth" loved it!. I'm looking forward to watching "Breaking The Silence".
"The Adventures Of Billy Meier" unreal awesome!!
I will take your advice and look for articles.
I'm also looking at doing a 3am raid into my town and posting(like nightclubs and garage sales people do)at bus stops and telephone poles.
"Overpopulation The Main Cause To Climate Change"
with an appropriate link to the Meier material.
not to many, just at specific spots.
quality not quantity.
is this to radical?
Keep that smile onya dial
Salome
Cameron
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Saturday, June 18, 2011 - 06:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> Lonnie, Good ideas, please feel free to pursue them!
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Saturday, June 18, 2011 - 06:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> Hi Cameron, Glad that you're enjoying the material, thanks. As for > your idea, as long as you don't do anything that's illegal or like a > religious mission, I think it's okay to use the same means that > other people do to post information.
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Cameronjamieson
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Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thankyou Michael
Yes i agree don't go door knocking or criminal.
Have since sent an email to the Environmental Minister about over population with a link back to Meier material model for reducing population. Bit by Bit i suppose :0)
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Loveofcreation
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Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings Michael:

I have also posted to Facebook all of the Articles that I have emailed to you. I have even written to my local newspaper to get word out there but here in Massachusetts, at least where I am, they have not published anything I have written to them. I find that some newspapers, etc. do not want to be involved in what they seem to think is 'bogus', although we (FIGU and others listening to Billy) know full well that this is not Bogus at all. They still need to 'Wake Up' so to speak. I also talk to other college students, as well as High School students that come to me and ask questions on their own authority and try to answer their questions as best as I can (often going back to your website and to the future of mankind website) to make sure what I am saying is as close to accurate as I can get. I do not want to distort the truth nor should that ever be done because we have seen what negativity it causes (religious delusion).

Salome,

Amanda from Western Massachusetts, USA
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Amanda and here's some more ammo:

http://theyflyblog.com/have-a-happy-obliviousness/06/29/2011
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Markcampbell
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Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's a real arrow of an article , and you know , the more you let fly , the better gets your aim , and some of those arrows may land squarely in an eye ....or 2000 .
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Andyv24
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great stuff, Michael, keep it coming. Going to do my best to accept your challenge. In fact just posted a comment at this interesting article http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/08/cure-aging-aubrey-de-grey_n_893110.html which discussus "curing" aging and (re)gaining 1,000 year life span. I like Cameron's idea also about posting fliers...may do the same.

Boy wish I could be with you guys down in Brazil. Next time...

To the point of this post... An issue that was very dear to me when I came into the Meier material, and there seems to be differences of opinion on this forum about it, and, as far as I can tell, a less than clear stance from FIGU on the matter. Namely, "psychedelic" drugs. It has been discussed before, but like I said, seemingly inconclusively. I was of the firm conviction that these substances can afford one profound wisdom-bringing experiances, fresh knowledge of self, spirit, and Creation. Anyone agree? Disagree? Please, enlighten me.

Thanks,

Andy
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Cameronjamieson
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Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 03:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Andyv24
Good to read you want to be active all the best with that.
About Drugs, I feel psychedelic drugs did not help me to deal with reality. We live our lives daily sober dealing with our reality. Through our experience's with reality we are able to deal with future realities. The consciousness is enormous as i'm sure you are aware of, the potential to experience profound wisdom sober is a given just requires work but if done sober you will own it and nobody can take that from you.
Thanks for being open.
Salome
Cameron
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Andyv24
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Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the response Cameron.
The thing is, this FIGU article http://ca.figu.org/Drugs.html# seems to hint that there is a utility in these substances, and, likewise, in "Questions to Billy" Billy had once answered that there is certain plant substances that can assist in developing conciousness related abilites, telepathy, clairvoyance, etc.
What's troubling me is, FIGU being all about evolution, indeed designating it the meaning of life, if these substances can play a part (however large or small) in this regard, why the (for the most part) silence on the matter? Maybe less of an issue than I'm making it...but, frankly, it was once a subject that was very dear to me; the apparent wisdom-promoting effects of these substances.

At any rate, any other input very much appreciated. Thanks. Love this forum.

take care
Andy

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