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Edward
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Post Number: 2132
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 01:00 am: | 
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Hi Boddy...
Concerning: in those really times....should be,"in those 'early' times"
Apologies...
Edward. |
Cpl
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Post Number: 555
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 05:27 pm: |
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Hi Bobby,
Are you asking about the race created by Jehovah? If so a search on Jehovah should help. I think you will find the group of people Jehovah created were Hebrews or an early spelling/rendition of that term rather than Jews. The word Jew spelled with a "J" is only about 500 years old.
"Jew" as it refers to people can be a very confusing term.
The following, which I thought I posted on the forum but which I couldn't find doing a search, might explain a bit:
On Jew and Jewish
When using the word Jew or Jewish it is invariably necessary to explain what type of Jew or Jewish one is referring too because there are many more types than there are for example types of American. They have, unfortunately therefore, become almost meaningless terms to use.
To quote Wikipedia: Judaism shares some of the characteristics of a nation, an ethnicity, a religion, and a culture, making the definition of who is a Jew vary slightly depending on whether a religious or national approach to identity is used. While there is much debate about the details, by most definitions, Jews include those who have a Jewish ethnic background and those without Jewish parents who have converted to Judaism.
From the following I hope you’ll realize that the slightly is a “slight” underestimation, and Jewish ethnic background doesn’t really explicate anything.
Here are some types or definition of Jew current or historically. Depending on the type or definition used, nearly all western people -- and many elsewhere -- may be described as Jewish:
1. Someone of any nationality or blood adhering to the Jewish faith. There are many black Jews called Black Hebrew Israelites (BHI). Descendants from the 12 tribes of Israel, and also Judaism, moved into Africa and notably Ethiopia hundreds if not thousands of years ago. BHI usually do not regard Semitic Jews as true Jews (Wiki), and they may rarely if ever take part in Jewish religious activities. In return Semitic Jews often regard BHI as not being Jews. If you think Michele Obama is Jewish check here: http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=450.
We can see many a black person could make claim to being Jewish – just look at Rastafarians. The Beta Israel claim of Jewishness was accepted by the Chief Rabbinate of Israel and the Israeli government, in 1975 (link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F.).
While “being Jewish” could be a plus on the political front it is probably not wise to see any more literalness to many a Jewish claim or statement than Kennedy’s political, “I am a Berliner.”
Note there are black people that have converted to the Jewish religion which demands attendance/visibility and is not therefore prone to high secrecy.
2. Anyone born in or descending from those of the geographic Judea area in ancient times.
3. Someone descended from the tribe of Judah, just one of the twelve tribes of Israel. While this is one of the more popular IDs, one of the symbols of Judah is the lion. This is the symbol of England too, which suggests rather than “Jews” whoever that may be “ruling” England that they are synonymous with or one with English peoples, though it seems likely the tribe of Ephraim also has a large, and maybe in the past the largest, positioning in England.
4. Here’s the real kicker: someone who is descendant from any of the twelve tribes of Israel. This makes just about all western peoples and some in Africa and Asia, notably Kashmir and China Jewish. (In 1964 the Israeli Rabbinate declared that the Bene Israel in the Kashmir region are "full Jews in every respect."),
Who actually is and isn’t descended from the tribes of Israel is a subject of much – and hot – debate. It is virtually impossible to obtain genealogical proof of exactly who is descendant from the twelve tribes of Israel Although Mormons are attempting to, they will, of course, find no documentation to support their idea that the Amerindians are from one or two of the lost tribes of Israel. Many do contend that most western peoples are descended from the twelve tribes and there certainly are a lot of signs and evidence.
This “of the twelve tribes” definition comes from the word Hebrew which became synonymous with the term Israelite (see link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrews), meaning of the twelve tribes of Israel, though it could also mean just a foreigner.
A smattering of the diverse geographic evidence of this lies in the name Spain, Iberia which came from Hberia, land of Hebrew peoples (the I, H and J often phonetically interchanged once you go back over 500 years). Also the Hebrides and Outer Hebrides, resulted from a similar geographic evolution. The names were left, and changed somewhat in the lands and islands as the peoples both settled and travelled through them. The original Scottish declaration of independence asserts that the people arriving there were descended from the Tribes of Israel (probably mostly Benjamin). The word Jew evolved in modernity from Iew, which even Shakespeare wrote.
5. The term Zionist is not synonymous with the term Jew. Zionists may be Jewish. Most certainly regard themselves as Jewish and in support of Jews. But they often are not regarded as true Jews by orthodox Jews. One can be a Zionist and not a Jew, by merely supporting Zionist goals. Zionists are political, which often puts them at odds – to say the least -- with the orthodox Jews of the Rabbinical Congress.
The latter, unlike campaigning Zionists, do not generally have much money at all. Yet they have often taken out full page adds in the New York Times, at great expense that they can hardly afford, completely denouncing the actions of Zionism. For one, the Zionist principle of a land for the Jews is against the fundamental belief in the Diaspora and that the Jews will not have a homeland of their own until the arrival of their Messiah. It is anathema to these orthodox Jews that any Jew would fight and kill others for a Jewish homeland.
This has led to Zionists often marginalizing, to put it mildly, or actually disowning, orthodox Jews, refusing to support, assist and/or help them, especially financially. The Zionists tend to keep money from their campaigns for themselves and those who support Zionist aims and goals, which are not necessarily Jewish, and very often not genuine or orthodox Jewish aims and goals.
6. Some “Jews” descended from the Kazar area in Asia. Generally thought to be of Turkish origin, but some believe many to descend from Hebrews/Israelites that may have emigrated and mixed with the Kazars. Not so many in Khazaria are thought to have converted around the 8th century when the Kazar king of the Kazar Empire converted to Judaism. Some may have emigrated to Spain, Poland, Russia or Crimea, others remaining in Asia. (See links: http://www.sullivan-county.com/identity/khazars.htm and http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars.)
7. Someone of Jewish parents, or of parents from one or more of the above definitions or groups.
8. Ethnic Jews. These may even have other religions. See link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Who_is_a_Jew%3F. Note: there is no definition of “who is a Jew” under the Law of Return (to Israel).
Next time you think to use the word “Jew” or “Jewish” ask yourself, and make it clear to your readers, which version you are actually referring to. If you don’t, you can guarantee you will be misunderstood. You might also consider whether you yourself are a Jew under any of the above definitions.
Without citing a definition, the word Jew could mean just about anybody, making it meaningless and useless as a term.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 385
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 10:09 am: |
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CR 52, May 17, 1976
It was told by semjase that values are written into the construction of the pyramid to warn the future civilizations of the catastrophe from space ...
semjase:..NOw the time is arriving when the astronomical measurements which were instrumental and decisive in the construction of the pyramids, as i explained, will gradaully align with the astronomical values of the present age & therefore, announce the events prophesied more than 70,000 years ago.This event will come to pass when the sunlight from very distant star(a central star - the central sun of milkyway galaxy as well as the SOL sysetm) falls in through the pipe-liking opening of revelation that extends from outside the GIZA pyramid all he way inside to its center in a straight, unbroken line and illuminates a certain point..
Is this the Destroyer comet which threatned the people & caused them to built the GIZA pyramids 70,000 years ago ?
Page 264 of And still they fly, "A gigantic cometcalled the Destroyer grazed our earth about 75,000 years ago for the first time, causing devastating destruction."
IF it is the destroyer comet, we know that it was moved away from its course towards earth..so can we say that we are out of danger ?
The great Truths of Philosophy are not proved but seen - S.Radhakrishnan
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Memo00
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Post Number: 504
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 07:05 am: |
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Hello Mahigitam
Billy has explained that the destroyer is no longer a threat, but still there is the red meteor which can be a menace and cause great destruction. It is up to us to use our scientific knowledge to do something about it or suffer the terrible consequences.
Salome |
Edward
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Post Number: 2142
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 03:36 am: |
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Hi Mahigitam and Memo....
Yes, the Apophis Astroid will be the upcoming threat.
Ptaah, I think it was mentioned if it misses this/one time: the next round it
is sure to hit!
Edward. |
Johnboy
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Post Number: 76
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 05:58 pm: |
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The interesting thing about the Apophis Asteroid is that it is a "predetermined cosmic event" that was put in motion a long time ago and, according to the Plejaren, it is up to us, globally, to develop the capability to change its course before 2029. The prophecy of this event puts the impact point between the Red Sea and the Black Sea. If I am not mistaken, Jerusalem and Iraq are right in the center of this. Predetermined? Coincidence?
Johnboy |
Cpl
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Post Number: 559
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 09:02 pm: |
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Hi Johnboy,
Actually between the Black Sea and the North Sea. Of course, ejecta falling back through the atmosphere as a rain of superheated fire may well reach the Middle east region, but probably not as far away as Iraq. It depends where the actual impact zone is -- if it impacts.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Johnboy
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2011 - 06:38 am: |
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Thanks, Chris!
I musta been passing a brain stone while writing that.....
Johnboy |
Marbar
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Post Number: 183
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2011 - 11:47 am: |
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I read a source from a book that Bhuddha married his cousin, does Billy or anyone know whehter this is true or not? the information is on page 10. The name of the book is: The Bhuddha, His Life and Teachings. This book is by Piyadassi Thera.
This is where I got the information from: http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/lifebuddha.pdf |
Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2011 - 02:51 pm: |
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Very true:
Siddhartha was brought up by his mother's younger sister, Maha Pajapati. By tradition, he is said to have been destined by birth to the life of a prince, and had three palaces (for seasonal occupation) built for him. Although more recent scholarship doubts this status, his father, said to be King Suddhodana, wishing for his son to be a great king, is said to have shielded him from religious teachings and from knowledge of human suffering.
When he reached the age of 16, his father reputedly arranged his marriage to a cousin of the same age named Yasodhara. According to the traditional account, she gave birth to a son, named Rahula. Siddhartha is then said to have spent 29 years as a prince in Kapilavastu. Although his father ensured that Siddhartha was provided with everything he could want or need, Buddhist scriptures say that the future Buddha felt that material wealth was not life's ultimate goal.
"Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs! And anyone who never has made a mistake in his whole entire life has never ever tried to do anything new."
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 602
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2011 - 12:49 pm: |
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I dont think I explained right in my previous post:
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Mahapajapati was the elder sister of Queen Maya and not vice versa.
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Yashodhara's father was King Suprabuddha who was the younger brother of Siddhartha's mother Queen Maya.
Yashodhara's mother Amitta was the younger sister of King Suddhadhana who was Siddahrta's father.
So that's how Yashodhara was cousin to Siddhartha from both maternal and paternal side.
Sorry for the confusion. Just now I verified it.
"The flower which is single need not envy the thorns that are numerous." - Tagore
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 603
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2011 - 11:39 am: |
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The story goes like this:
On the fifth day after his birth, his father invited Asita, a seer. Asita prophesized that Siddhartha would either be a world-conquering king, or a great monk. Later, Suddhodhana invited five wise men for the naming ceremony. Some said that Siddhartha would be a world-conquering king, while some said he would be a great monk. They agreed that if and when Siddhartha sees four signs, he would give up his material wealth and become a monk. Those four signs were i) An old man ii) A diseased man iii) A dead man and iV) A monk.
His father, king Suddhodhana wanted Siddhartha to be a great king and surrounded him with material wealth and placed guards so that these 4 signs are never seen by Siddhartha. When Siddhartha was 16, some counselors advised the king to get Siddhartha married and thus bind him to a family life. Siddhartha was given 7 days to choose his wife and so he prepared a list of qualities he wanted to see in his wife. Beautiful and royal woman from all over the kingdom and neighboring kingdoms came who vowed to posses those qualities. Siddhartha chose Yashodhara. Yashodhara was daughter of king Suppabuddha and Pamita. Pamita was paternal aunt of Siddhartha. So Yashodhara was cousin of Siddhartha. It is said that in those days, such marriages were common because a prince was supposed to marry someone with royal blood and ended up marrying a relative. Siddhartha Gautamas mother Maya was herself cousin to his father Suddhodhana. When queen mother Maya died (7 days after Siddharthas birth), Yashodhara married Mahapajapati who was the younger sister of Maya.
So actually, Yashodhara was a cousin of Siddhartha from both maternal and paternal side.
According to another story, king Suppabuddha was against the marriage and made Siddhartha compete for his daughter's hand, which Siddhartha won.
Not really sure that everything that is known about Siddahrtha Gautama's life is accurate.
"The flower which is single need not envy the thorns that are numerous." - Tagore
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Jplagasse
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Post Number: 358
Registered: 09-2000
| | Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 08:23 pm: |
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Hi all,
Am most curious whether there is any information anywhere within the Meier info, regarding the "Gobekli tepe" site.
I did a bunch of searches... nothing i could find.
Needless to say, stating the obvious i suppose, that any type of info from the P's or Billy on this would be fascinating as well as informative.
Among the question:
Who build the original site, for what reason, what was it used for, from where did these guys come from, what tools and methods did they use, anything else whatsoever including but not limited to: who used and rebuilt the site after, for what reasons, why are there rings within rings, who and for what resons was the site "purposefully buried" if that is even correct, etc. etc.
Thanks and regards,
JP |
Edward
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Post Number: 2191
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 02:24 am: |
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Hi Andres....
Will post here, ok?
If you conduct a Search with the Search Engine, you should come across the
Plajaran version of Adam And Eve. Eve, being of Black origin and intermixed
with a White Adam, if I remember it correctly. That seemed to have gotten the
ball rolling, so to speak. [Hence, Eve, being of Original Earth (Spirit) born
human, as I understood; not to get confused with the later Black races that
settled here on Earth from space.]
So, the above mentioned does...give us a 'hint' to what you have asked and
posted. Even now, there is an English researcher who is tracing our roots with
our Black UR Father, through DNA research; about end of this year to next, he
should have concluded his findings and present them to the world.
There is NOT just ONE history of Earth human origin. Due, to Earth having been
a Prison, and a Refugee place/planet, etc.; many different color skin toned
humans have settled, here....which resulted into many variations of human
species.
Edward. |
Getknowledge
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Post Number: 143
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 - 12:56 am: |
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semjase:..NOw the time is arriving when the astronomical measurements which were instrumental and decisive in the construction of the pyramids, as i explained, will gradaully align with the astronomical values of the present age & therefore, announce the events prophesied more than 70,000 years ago.This event will come to pass when the sunlight from very distant star(a central star - the central sun of milkyway galaxy as well as the SOL sysetm) falls in through the pipe-liking opening of revelation that extends from outside the GIZA pyramid all he way inside to its center in a straight, unbroken line and illuminates a certain point..
There's no direct connection with the Apophis Asteroid in 2029 with this passage, but it could be part of the coming events. I think, it's talking about the alignment in 2012, possibly a solar tsunami and other unpleasant events, "such as a so far unknown, invisible, dark and huge space wanderer that is threatening from the fringe of our solar system and could wreak tremendous havoc on Earth", and other events Billy was advised to remain silent about.
Has this dark wanderer been identified?
Tien
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Edward
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Post Number: 2193
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 - 12:11 am: |
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Hi Tien...
I am familiar with that. If not...Apophis...what than?
I was wondering that it could perhaps be a: Wandering Black Hole? They just
seem to pop-up...and sip anything that comes in their path; and it is even
said, that they than, just disappear? Still much unknown about them to
scientists of today.
Thus, it can become Invisible and still...wander and than just materialize as
a DARK phenomenon....repeating itself.
Edward. |
Getknowledge
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Post Number: 144
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 05:52 am: |
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The wandering black hole scenario, if we can identify it in time, like it matters, will be the last event earth get to experience, it'll absorb anything we can shoot at it in order to somehow deflect it from eating us, we can't even escape this planet and move out of the way of the coming automatic universal recycler. Unless, also encoded into the pyramids, is a way to get off the planet, the pyramids were used as a means to travel in ancient times, then it must be interplanetary, and we must learn that function. If all else fail, this case would fall under the Ps directive to intervene and perhaps help evacuate the planet. Luckily, that fate upon Earth's future isn't discussed in the CNs.
I wonder what happens when the cosmic light shines down the center pipeline and illuminates the central point, I wonder if the builders will return to check it, like the 5th Element. Only by reading a true copy of the prophecies, in question, can we know what events are prophesied.
Tien
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 447
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 11:13 am: |
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This is a short response form Christian Frehner about the dark Wanderer. If more information becomes available he, or I, will post it.
From the 467th Contact June 28, 2008:
There is indeed a comet beyond Pluto, several times the size of Earth.
It has been called Nibiru by the old Sumerians, Destroyer by the old Aegyptians, and Bringer of Horror by the Celtic forebearers.
The Plejaren call him Hamerank netal, which means Dark Giant.
Ptaah
52. Was Quetzal diesbezüglich erklrte, ist vllig richtig.
53. Der Riesenkomet oder eben Riesenplanet von mehrfacher Erdgrsse ist tatschlich der, der von den alten Sumerern Nibiru, von den alten gyptern Zerstrer und von den keltischen Vorfahren Schreckensbringer genannt wurde.
54. Wir nennen ihn Hamerank netal, was soviel bedeutet wie Dunkler Riese. |
Teesoft
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 12:35 pm: |
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hi Getknowledge
"Unless, also encoded into the
pyramids, is a way to get off the
planet, the pyramids were used as a
means to travel in ancient times,
then it must be interplanetary, and
we must learn that function"
where did u get this information i havent come across it in the Billy info so far...pls understand me not that i have read everything just want to know where u got it so i can gladly read too.... Thanks
Salome!
Tosin |
Cpl
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Post Number: 565
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 09:46 pm: |
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Hi Michael,
We have been told before that the Destroyer was sent away in the 1970's and is no longer a threat to the Earth. Do you know how this fits in with the 467th Contact and Dark Wanderer?
Best,
Chris
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 448
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 08:08 am: |
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Hi Chris,
I don't know anything more except to say that the Destroyer that was sent away is not this object. |
Cpl
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Post Number: 566
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 07:10 pm: |
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Okay. Thanks, Michael. That's what I thought.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Getknowledge
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Post Number: 145
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 07:56 pm: |
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Hi Tosin, I can't locate the info, it could be within contact 256 not included in the translated excerpt, which talks about the construction and later and other uses of the pyramids. Or a different contact with a female, I think. Maybe others can confirm wether or not they've read in the CNs anything regarding pyramids being used to travel in ancient times.
Tien
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