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    Teesoft Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 01-2011 |
Thanks Memo for understanding me i ques you are right the only reason our country is still like this is cus the people that are suppose to change and invest in the country ard running to civilized country, thanks i will try never to forget my country but right now i need more education which currently my country cant provide which lies as my major reason for leaving.... Thanks for ur word i really appreciate them. @Andres i'm happy to know that i'm not alone in this & that their are poeple out there like me....yeah the Plejarens most have their reasons looking at bigger picture i think their point looks logical, Thanks for the Figu canada link and the advise i really appreciate it, and by the way Andre where are u from? Thanks @Eddie thanks for ur advise, u are right the Plejarens are not attacking geniue individuals rather people who are running from responsibilitys and u are once right again i have to start to taking responsibility for my life,dreams, desires & never let anyone let me down including my mum.......thanks for the self learning link & i will continue my self education, i am happy i can find people like u here.... I appreciate all ur advice, thanks again. Generally i thank u all for ur contributions some how i must confess i really feel less lonely since i read the message from u all...i wish u all success as we continue to learn the word of truth brought by Billy and his E.T Plejaren friends... Salome! Tosin | ||
Alagna Member Post Number: 34 Registered: 07-2011 |
Dear Tosin, Go for that education where ever it is! You might even return someday to better your home country. Cheers, Anthony | ||
Teesoft Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 01-2011 |
You are right Anthony who knows....thanks for your encouragement... Salome! Tosin | ||
Elreyjr Member Post Number: 253 Registered: 01-2009 |
Hi Tosin, never mind being called a "coward or a traitor" by whom ever even by the P's simply because you have endeavored to improve your lot which will never be possible if your maintain the status quo. just as a reminder everyone in the United States of America who call themselves Americans including the native Indians are/were immigrants in search for improvement in economic, political and environmental concerns even during the time that there were no over-population issue. even the ET's from wherever came, stayed and went with the same branded image. no one can claim that he is from an original stock native to a place/country because one way or another they moved/immigrated from somewhere since time immemorial. if there are no longer borders, there are in effect no more immigrants because there are no more other "countries". if the time comes for the need, for whatever reasons, for earth humans to travel to "other worlds/planets" then again they will still be called immigrants. you are poor the same way we Filipinos are generally poor simply because our forefathers and our country's resources were exploited by immigrants of all colors and creeds and we only realized it much later. but it is not yet too late. let us improve out lot by all creational means. if you may, do what you will. Jun My will be done | ||
Andres82 Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 08-2011 |
Tosin, Where am I from?* I was born in Argentina and moved to Australia at age 3. Argentina too, is not so well off. While I have all the ability to help in the future, I do not wish to help that country specifically. In saying this, I think that countries are ridiculous and I do not any longer support one country against the other. The Earth is my country. The Earth is my home. I do not understand why we need borders or passports to travel around our home world in the same place... However, yes I have a responsibility and that responsibility is strictly to the people of Earth, not to any country. Why not to any country? Because if I help one country, I shall leave out all the others.. In future I shall act upon my responsibility and will carry out my mission, to "Save Humanity". I hope once we can unite Earth and its people and create a Utopia for all the different races of man that live on this jewel planet that we may do the same in the galaxy by creating one unified force in relation to the creation. Salome Andres Lyrian Spirit | ||
Teesoft Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi Elreyjr i see ur point and i think i agree with you, the europian colonial master manipulated our forfathers back then too used us as trade slaves and alot more. Ur point is well taking i will off course go wherever i want. Thanks for ur point i appreciate it. @Andres i see i was wondering just too why we need border on earth but when u look at it from other point of view you will see that we are just not evolved to that state yet but we will get there someday when all the warmonger within our government today are replaced by spiritually aware people, but like you said i dont view my self too as belonging to any country i from earth simple i hope we all start realising this soon..... Thanks for answering me. Salome! Tosin | ||
Egerrt Member Post Number: 19 Registered: 12-2010 |
Hello Teesoft, I think Plejaren don't oppose all indiduals immigrating, they rather see it for what it really is. And the truth is many of those asylum seekers are either criminals are coming to the Western World to enjoy social benefits. For example here in Finland these fake asylum seekers commit a lot of crimes, and some ethnic groups are largely unemployed. As much as 70, and in some cases even over 80% of them are not working. The worst part is that they lack any respect towards native population and its ways of life. They sympathize only with their own countrymen and religion, and openly disrespect local customs. Anyway, I think you deserve a chance to move to a Western country as I see your striving for knowledge, and it's definitely a lot harder to achieve your goals in your country. If I was born in your country I would wish to move out too, I mean ignorance and respecting only materialistic values, I would be very bored and lonely in such an environment. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 563 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hello Teesoft, From what I remember of reading about this from the Plejaren you do not sound anything like the people they were criticizing. The way I read it was the cowards etc had two traits that I enumerate as: 1. These were self-made refugees (their lives were not under threat at home) who merely wanted to leave their own country to gain free assistance and financial standing from richer countries when they have absolutely no means of financial support with them and can give nothing at all in return for what they want to get. That is, they come penniless and unprepared into another country just expecting it to support and help them for nothing in return. 2. They have absolutely zero qualifications or finances and have not prepared in any way for a future life in the country they are going to dump themselves upon. This represents an abdication of personal responsibility. You, on the other hand, have genuine desires for self improvement, as should all human beings. You want a better education which is most laudable. My advice, if I may give any, would be to think and plan your move properly. Know where exactly you want to go and for what purpose; which school or college and which subject you will study etc. Have sufficient finances and back up contacts there that can assist for a short while in case of an emergency. Remember you don't even need to go abroad now. You can get educated online, which is what I did. This saves the extra expense of tuition and surviving in a more expensive country. Plan your progress out in steps. I'd probably go for the online study for qualifications first in a subject I am most interested in. Once you have that, many more doors of opportunity will probably start to open for you. Lastly, many Chinese and Indians left their home country to go abroad and get educated. They were prepared for and financed it themselves, accepting self responsibility for their path. They then returned and were able to greatly aid the development of their respective countries, which have developed greatly in the last few decades alone. I'm sure the Plejaren do not regard such people as "cowards", my guess would be quite the opposite. Best, to you. Put your best foot forward as we say, and do your best. Chris Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either. | ||
Teesoft Member Post Number: 26 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi Egerrt thanks for seeing my point i agree with you some people just travell to the western world just to take advantage of the civilized world if that was the reason alone well it would be ok but they rather destroy things like they do in their home country which on the one hand is normal to them back at home and on the other hand is the main reason why their country has failed to move forward, this exactly also correspond with the problem here in Nigeria and other african countries......... People here all tend to blame the government while they themselves have never taken responsibilities for themselves but rather always put their responsibilities on either the government or their so called imaginary God, while this is the main reason as to why all country such like mine as failed to move forward. As my statement should also not leave out non responsible government who all are profit seeking, religious enslaved, war hungry men, who cant properly control their own homes let alone a country but with their barbarism, crimes and bribery manage to get into this leading position. I will always agree with Billy "The Masses Are Stupid" You are right if you live here you will want to leave as you will really feel lonely..... Thanks again Egerrt your words were comforting! Hi Chris thanks for all your point as they are well taking i'm happy to have people like you who i can talk to, all your point are of correctness as Quetzal will say, and about the online course i do not know much about this on the one hand and on the other i wish to moves out for now and maybe later in the future return i do not know for now, but pls any idea about the online course will be welcome... I need to move out learn alot of things and least get away from this sick religious environment where no one want to move forward...Thanks again Chris and hope to hear from you soon. Take care. Salome! Tosin | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2186 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All... Good details from Chris. We have Refugees whom fled their country due to the war in their country to escape death or similar, and we have those whom are Economical Refuges. This last one, is not really in it's place due to they only come to a country for Economical Reasons. It they have work, this would implement, otherwise. No One must not be a 'Coward'...to leave his country and migrate for Economical Reasons, as mentioned above. We have to be Realistic about this... Thus, what Berlisconi of Italy has conducted with one of the Italian islands being residence to receive refugees...and giving them a GREEN pass to go where they want to go in the EU is quite Wrong. Many are there/here for Economical Reasons! Which, should NOT be the case. This type of attitude/conduct by Berlisconi is exactly what the Plajarans despise. Edward. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1446 Registered: 02-2000 |
Teesoft, Do you have the Meier info you need? I'm sure some of us would be willing to send books etc. even for free to help you continue to study Billy's material. My Website | ||
Teesoft Member Post Number: 28 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi Norm thanks for your concern.....well i continue to update my self from the website Futureofmankind.co.uk, with contact note, Figu special bulletin and the bulletin and other articles and books though only few has been translated compare to the whole contact note....so far so good that has been my only source of information apart from reading this forum,and yes i have also been able to download the Goblet of Truth english version on the Futureofmankind wiki....their is also one website like that i think its tjresearch.info i was able to read that too about Jmmanuel aka {Jesus Christ} and his teach which unfortunately has been falsified beyond any truth...that is all for now and thanks again for your concern and i hope to know u more and maybe see u someday, and pls whats ur name? Salome! Tosin | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 298 Registered: 01-2009 |
Salome figu forum members I just want to share with you a document I wrote recently. Plejaren Population Figures Vs Earth Human Population Figures - http://www.ufofacts.me.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=90&Itemid=119 Salome Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2224 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Stephen.... Always interesting to read.... In the past China was always called a big RED Communist country and an Axil Of Evil, even, by the west, and now...many western investors are investing in her because China is so Overpopulated and thus: MUCH MONEY IS TO BE EARNED! [Crazy] Thus, as long as the Chinese population grows...there is always a BIG market to earn very very much MONEY! Of course, even certain Chinese business men and women find their way in this 'deceptive' direction, and make profit; and the Millionaires in China are also increasing. The (Capitalist) Monetary system seems to be more important....than the country's Overpopulation and, WORLD. Edward. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 623 Registered: 06-2008 |
Overpopulation .... yes. More evidence concerning those sinister reptilians abducting humans .... their way of helping out with overpopulation but the way it's going they will need more or larger craft or both to get anywhere.  Cheers. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 595 Registered: 05-2008 |
From a finance-related site I read; it brings up many issues that Billy says are in store for the humans of our planet in this 3rd millenium. http://www.madhedgefundtrader.com/october-24-2011-3.html ================================================== "3) An Afternoon With Dr Paul Ehrlich. Pack your portfolios with agricultural plays like Potash (POT), Mosaic (MOS), and Agrium (AGU) if Dr. Paul Ehrlich is just partially right about the impending collapse in the world’s food supply. You might even throw in long positions in wheat, corn, soybeans, and rice. The never dull, and often controversial Stanford biology professor told me he expects that global warming is leading to significant changes in world weather patterns that will cause droughts in some of the largest food producing areas, causing massive famines. Food prices will skyrocket, and billions could die. At greatest risk are the big rice producing areas in South Asia, which depend on glacial run off from the Himalayas. If the glaciers melt, this will be gone. California faces a similar problem if the Sierra snowpack disappears. Rising sea levels displacing 500 million people in low lying coastal areas is another big problem. One of the 77 year old professor’s early books “The Population Bomb” was required reading for me in college in 1970, and I used to drive up from Los Angeles to hear his lectures (followed by the obligatory side trip to the Haight-Ashbury). Other big risks to the economy are the threat of a third world nuclear war caused by population pressures, and global plagues facilitated by a widespread growth of intercontinental transportation and globalization. And I won’t get into the threat of a giant solar flare frying our electrical grid. “Super consumption” in the US needs to be reined in where the population is growing the fastest. If the world adopts an American standard of living, we need four more Earths to supply the needed natural resources. We need to raise the price of all forms of carbon, preferably through taxes, but cap and trade will work too. Population control is the answer to all of these problems, which is best achieved by giving women an education, jobs, and rights, and has already worked well in Europe and Japan. All sobering food for thought." | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1453 Registered: 02-2000 |
How many people can the planet handle? http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7385660n&tag=contentMain;contentBody My Website | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 45 Registered: 12-2009 |
Norm, is it me or is that video pro-overpopulation. It even said more people can solve more problems. Salome, Corey | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1455 Registered: 02-2000 |
Corey, you are correct. My Website | ||
Sarah New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2011 |
I'm fine with decreasing population, but not to the point some people on this website Advocate: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Petition_Distribution_talk:Petition_For_Controlled_Birth_Stop I took the population control petition seriously, until they mentioned Mandatory Castration. Its totally contrary and hypocritical to banning torture and capitol punishment. To make matters worse, she even proposes controlling our sex drives. Yes, because using condoms is a bad thing. That comment may make me disassociate myself with the group. | ||
Sonik_01 Member Post Number: 244 Registered: 03-2006 |
Hello Sarah, There is a misconception among people concerning the meaning of the word "castration". Typically, people think it means to cut off a man's genitals in order for him not to be able to "misuse" what he's been given. If you look in contact 218, I forget which line, "castration" simply means "banishment form society". So, in other words, a person shouldn't be separated from the sex organs, but they should be separated from society. This misconception was spread by religions in the hopes of brutally controlling people and gaining power over them. Please consult the contact at "billymeiertranslations.com", as the one on "futureofmankind.co.uk" is incomplete. I hope this helps. Salome, Sonik_01 | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 304 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hi Sarah, Here is what it says regarding castration. - - - - - - - "Castration of offenders involving assault or rape, etc. The offenders are segregated from society and by gender for life." cas·trate (kstrt) tr.v. cas·trat·ed, cas·trat·ing, cas·trates 1. To remove the testicles of (a male); geld or emasculate. 2. To remove the ovaries of (a female); spay. 3. To deprive of virility or spirit; emasculate. n. An individual who is incapable of reproduction as a result of removal, destruction, or inactivation of the gonads. - - - - - - - Considering the crime being assault or rape, this individual has some serious issues to resolve and is in no condition to ever take on the challenges (personal education/preparedness) of raising a child. This petition is written presumably incorporating higher spiritual laws. In so considering this, I came to the conclusion that it encompasses many views and perspectives. Such as the evolutive experience of the incarnated spiritform, the impact on the planet and its ability to sustain life for future incarnations, not to mention if the disposition to commit certain crimes is due to a genetic malformation that leads to conditions that cause the behavior, etc., etc., etc. Copy&paste the following YouTube link to understand a little better. It's by the brilliant scientist Dr. David Eagleman. "Dr David Eagleman considers some emerging questions relating to law and neuroscience, challenging long-held assumptions in criminality and punishment and predicting a radical new future for the legal system." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EREriwV71mA Salome, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 12-2009 |
With the UN saying tommorow we hit our 7 billion mark an article about overpopulation with some interesting videos in the lower left hand corner. The video on the bottom entitled "world population to hit 7 billion" with Dr. Goldman Sachs is a good video talking about the effects of overpopulation. http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/28/opinion/pearce-population-fertility/index.html?hpt=op_r1 Salome Corey |
