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Joe
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Post Number: 173
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2011 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Documentary: How Many People Can Live on Planet Earth?

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5Q1ZSKNZ
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Corey
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Billy said there were bad side effects to vasectomies. The exact details escape me. If they can make reliable birth control for deer and pigs (science is working on this as we speak) they can make a respectable one for us humans that works.

Salome,

Corey
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Nguyen
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 07:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I recall Billy mention China is the dangerous country, and will attack Israel. Does anybody recall this message from Billy?
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Sarah
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Post Number: 65
Registered: 10-2011
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder if the population issue might be a partial factor in global warming. I've noticed, when your in a room with more people, the temperature of the room changes. So partially the cause of the overall rise of the few years, may be partially due to the amount of bodies per square mile.
I could be totally off base, but its a thought I've been having. And apparently Asia has a high population if I remember correctly. A real shame, as I was once considering moving to Tokyo.=_=
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Corey
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In the movie "the silent revolution of truth" Michael Horn mentions that Israel in the future will be destroyed by China (if it happens). Beyond that I only know of Billy's comments on China due to human rights violations. I also read somewhere that China could be involved in a future conflict with India when India and Pakistan go at it with each other in the future (which could escalate to a small nuclear conflict). I forgot where I read that though. I know that China has the largest military in the world with 2.25 million members but only spends 85 billion (US dollars) every year with it's military while the US spends 636 billion (US dollars). -from FIGU special bulletin 64 page 17

Salome

Corey
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Sonik_01
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Post Number: 263
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Corey,

If I remember correctly, vasectomies are not advised since the cutting of the vas deferins(sp?) tubes allows for the escaping of semen from the testes into the blood system, thus causing neuro-degenerative disorders such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's. I had no idea about that, and I am sure the scientists here (on Earth) have no idea either. At least we now know and can advise the people close to us about it.
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 623
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sarah,

Overpopulation is a direct cause of global warming, but not the only cause. The more people in the planet, more trees are cut, wilderness lost, more fuel is burnt every year, more pollution/emission etc. etc. Ambient temperature in any large city is significantly higher than the suburbs and rural/forest covered area due to absence of green cover, use of asphalt, bricks and other building materials. Respiratory and body heat is relatively insignificant compared to the above mentioned causes when discussed in global context.
"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." - Carl Jung
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Rarena
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Post Number: 738
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Until increased population is reversed: no other problem, such as famine, global warming, hole in the ozone layer, earthquakes, weather anomalies and tsunamis can be reversed. It is not the total problem, but it is the main underlying factor facing mankind on earth right now and is something within our power... we can together, control.

Salome
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Sarah
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 10-2011
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It makes since that religion can't be reversed until we get a handle on the population issue. However, I admit I find it a little weird trying to find reasons overpopulation is bad. One would think just hearing the words Overpopulation, one would automatically equate with not being good. Overpopulation is bad, lets do something about it.
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Edward
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Post Number: 2302
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Nguyen....

I think you are referring to the WW3 scenario.

Than, Israel would be destroyed by a Nuclear attack, and as well by Russia, if
I remember it correctly.


Edward.
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Scott
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Post Number: 2230
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Another negative trait of overpopulation is the additional weight of over 8 Billion bodies on the surface of the planet In addition, is the great weight created by huge cities and and the concentrated weight of water, when it sits behind a man made dam. All of this is a result of too many people.
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Sarah
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Post Number: 83
Registered: 10-2011
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But you see, thats why I mentioned extreme body heat. Imagine the body heat with 8,000,000,000 people or if we don't stop this at 13,400,000,000 people. How does such a change in temperate not effect the environment in some way. Thats putting aside the general annoyance of constantly bumping into people in less than an inch space.

Wasnt there another planet that had similar population issues? Is there any info on how they solved it? Well other than trade situations with Earth, if I remember correctly.
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Scott
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Post Number: 2231
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, the Planet Acart had a tremendous population surge of up to 23 Billion People. Since this level exceeded by many times what the planet could support, a plague developed and wiped out 90% of the population.
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Sarah
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Post Number: 84
Registered: 10-2011
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Then its settled, lets lower it so at the very least we wont have a plague.D:
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Teesoft
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Post Number: 96
Registered: 01-2011
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott i am so surprised about your input regarding 90% of people being dead on Acart, though i knew about there overpopulation problem but didnt know about the plague, pls can you provide the source cus i dont think it on the future of mankind site.......also pls do your know if Acart is in our Space and time configuration?

Thx in advance

Salome,
Tosin
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Scott
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Post Number: 2232
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Tosin,

I was a bit off in my final numbers, but the initial information came from contact 35. Subsequent to this, one of the Passive members presented the following info in 2001:

" The population of that human-inhabited planet, Akart, about the same size as Earth, suddenly swelled with 62 Billion refugees, who arrived on Akart as refugees from wars in their own home systems. The population of Akart went up to an unbelievable number of 126 billion. Naturally, the planet could not support such a gigantic number of people and a pestilence broke out.

In only 18 months, 124.5 billion people died. This was called the "Time of the Great Death". The planet today has a population of 1.26 Billion, about 1 % of what it was before 99% were decimated."
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Teesoft
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Post Number: 97
Registered: 01-2011
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh my goodness thats is not cool why would they even take more people on there overpopulated planet anyway many thanks Scott......and please do you know if this planet is in our space and time configuration?

Salome,
Tosin
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Sarah
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 10-2011
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2011 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now thats one heck of a plague.D; And were heading for it, because don't listlen to the prophesies.D:
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Corey
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2011 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

126 billion people... no wonder Akart had a complete oxygen collapse I wonder if that had anything to do with the plaque they suffered. What a catastrophe! Hopefully our planet's population numbers don't reach 23 billion, much less 126 billion. Our number of 8 billion is already 16 times exceeding the recommended 529 million (give or take). If we don't slow down and reduce our numbers Creation (the Earth) will start to take matters into it's own hands to reduce our numbers such as deaths from upcoming earthquakes, typhoons, tsunamis, hurricanes, and potential (I guess) plaques. Governments here gotta do something and quick this is getting out of hand. FIGU's Open Letter number one states that our CO2 levels are getting so high because of the billions of people exhaling, so I guess the higher the population numbers does raise the temperature and the hotter it gets impacting the atmosphere.

Salome

Corey

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Andres82
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 08-2011
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 02:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just a quick question refering to Scott's statement:

"Another negative trait of overpopulation is the additional weight of over 8 Billion bodies on the surface of the planet In addition, is the great weight created by huge cities and and the concentrated weight of water, when it sits behind a man made dam. All of this is a result of too many people."

Question:

- Is it not possible that overpopulation has an effect on space around the planet? e.g. mass..
- which could be the causes of solar erruptions?
Lyrian Spirit
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Sarah
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Post Number: 88
Registered: 10-2011
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 06:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm wondering, with decreased food supplies for planets with high populations like this, is it conceivable then that if nature could not wipe them out, war would?
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Edward
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Post Number: 2308
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sarah....


Or, perhaps an Astroid...which suddenly appears!?

Had a BAD dream a couple of weeks ago, and I looked out the window and all of
a sudden, a huge acuminated light appeared and as it got closer, very fast, I
could see it was an Astroid! With tail and all...very HUGE! And then, it hit
Earth as I could see in the distance...and see it explode and then the wave of
the impact could be seen and experienced...all the way to my viewing point and
blew me away and I though: MAN, now I'm dead! Than, the vision stopped and I
woke up...

Crazy, not....?

Could be nothing...though....??

Can always be a 'possiblity'......


Edward.
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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 183
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 03:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Edward:

I had a similar dream a few days ago, namely, before the 10th December.

I dreamt I was in a carriage of some sort, and through the rear window I could see a massive, but I mean, massive explosion at a very busy area, so big that nothing could possibly survive that in a many-kilometers area.

The others inside the vehicle did let me know somehow, that it was what it was, as in, there was nothing one could possibly do about it.

It was however a calm dream, as in, I was not 'moved' nor sad. I was just a neutral observer.

And I am not doing any judgement on it, and there are no feelings associated to this message, as I type these words.
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.

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