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    Ramirez Member Post Number: 415 Registered: 06-2008 |
Thankyou Jonzie, Most interesting. I wonder if in X years there will be a similar documentary where the principles involved reveal their role in 9/11  Cheers. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1350 Registered: 02-2000 |
IMO Stanley Kubrick didn't have anything to do with it. People are putting him in there because he directed 2001 in the laste 60s. My Website | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 415 Registered: 05-2008 |
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-172169166.html "Underscored by Chaplinesque music, the end-credit sequence composed of outtakes then reveals that some of the interviewed people--including NASA experts, astronauts, their family and friends, Nixon's advisers and staff (among them former Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld), CIA officials, a Hollywood producer and other witnesses--are actors reading lines from a script, with statements made by White House interviewees presented out of their original context; the film is shown to be a hoax, intended to be, as Christiane Kubrick confirms, just "good fun." " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYWw3RLxho | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 198 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Bruce, at the end of your youtube link it says "no goy was mistreated during filming"???? "How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 416 Registered: 05-2008 |
Justsayno - obviously they are trying to be funny in a Mel Brooks kind of way ... if you look "goy" up, it refers to non-Jews in any case, the takeaway from that film is that they were poking fun at those who think the US didn't land on the moon in 1969. I don't think Billy ever mentioned Kubrick being involved. | ||
Jokoveltman Member Post Number: 35 Registered: 11-2009 |
Sheila, I don't need to make tests (though I have actually done so in the past), only trigonometry: if my height is 6ft, the sun will be slightly less than 9.48deg above the horizon when my shadow is 36ft long (formula: tan(9.48) = 0.1669, just slightly more than 6/36). The sun moves about 15deg/hr, so that would be about 40 minutes before or after sunset or sunrise respectively. Peace, Tim | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 200 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hey Tim, thanks for the trig lesson. But that doesn't explain why the shadow is on the wrong side of surveyor 6. "How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line. | ||
Jokoveltman Member Post Number: 36 Registered: 11-2009 |
No, of course not. And there are many other problems, as well. Peace, Tim | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 287 Registered: 06-2009 |
Actually in earth, when the sun is 9 deg above horizon, the sunlight is so much diffused by the atmosphere, that there is no perceptible shadow. But in moon, with little or no atmosphere, such shadows can happen (but not in the wrong side). Salome. Suv | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 203 Registered: 02-2009 |
Contact Report 203, Tuesday, September 10th, 1985 http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_203 BIlly: But then how is it with the Moon-rover and the landing devices and so forth, which were supposed to have been left behind on the Moon? Quetzal: These are actually to be found on the Moon, whereby however these were left behind from a later Moon-landing on the Earth's satellite. ------------------------------- The Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/182/4109/229 "The Apollo reflector panel was placed on the surface by astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin on 21 July 1969. Attempts were made almost immediately to obtain range measurements but these were hampered by the brief time available before the moon became too low in the sky on tha night and by some initial uncertainity in the actual landing site. Ground instrument difficulties and weather problems caused some further delays, but on 1 August the Lick Observatory succeeded in obtaining strong return signals from the Apollo 11 reflector and in measuring the difference between the observed and predicted range with an accuracy of 7 m."} --------- Officially,the Laser Ranging Retroreflector experiment was deployed on Apollo 11[July 16, 1969], 14[January 31, 1971], and 15[July 26, 1971]. As the first moon landing was a hoax, the laser reflectors as said must be placed by subsequent moon-missions(by either manned or unmanned missions). But from the above "The Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment ", it was said that on August 1, they got the return signals from the laser reflectors. Apollo 12 [November 14, 1969] landed 4 months after the 'Lunar laser experiment'... If the ground based observations were true,then the only option seems to me is that through secret manned/unmanned moon-missions,those laser reflectors were placed on moon within 15 days gap [from launch date July 16, 1969 to august 1] so as to be detected by the ground based telescopes on earth... Ground based observations were recorded by Lick Observatory[August 1], Mc Donald observatory[August 20, September 3, 4, and 22,1969], Air Force Cambridge research laboratories Lunar Ranging obervatory in Arizona[September 2,1969], Tokyo Astronomical Observatory in Japan[1972] and Pic Du Midi observatory in France[1970].. From the above information, it can be said that the americans must have either placed the laser reflectors before the Apollo 12 landing or must have manipulated all of the ground based laser observations.[except those of france[1970] and japan[1972] which happened after Apollo 12 moon landing] In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth is a revolutionary act.- George Orwell | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 553 Registered: 05-2008 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&feature=player_embedded#at=945 Watch from about 9:15 to 10:15 ... Obama makes some interesting references that will be familiar to all here. It would be interesting if some reporter asks him his personal opinion about such subjects. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 359 Registered: 10-2009 |
Funny that he's sending out the message that anyone interested in the first faked moon landing and what happened at Roswell would be unfit to govern the country. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Jplagasse Member Post Number: 359 Registered: 09-2000 |
Perhaps another clue for the mix... The australians detected signals/communications from the first moon flight, using directional antenna pointed towards the moon. There was a tv program/movie on this if i remember correctly. If true, this implies that they or something did orbit the moon at that time... at least allowing radio communications etc. but perhaps didn't land? Perhaps there were additional moon landings "between" the publicized ones... if so, this implies the existence of another set of rockets and flights additional to what was publicized... ????? I heard somewhere that there was a military shuttle fleet, in addition to the "public" one. Don't know if this is true... but wouldn't be surprised if so. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2176 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi JP.... Long time no hear! I think the Russians and Chinese would be aware of this?? Or, any other country with somewhat high advanced equipment/technology. So, it does make One wonder!? Edward. | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 196 Registered: 04-2006 |
Seen the recent reports showing pictures of footprints and moon buggy tracks on the moon. Reporters were knocking conspiracy theorists saying "thats proof we landed on the moon on Apollo 11". There is also a documentary series on Cable TV that just started showing called "Moon Vehicles". Funny about that. The Pleyaren said that this would happen and it seems they were right again. The following missions after Apollo 11 were to put a moon buggy in the spot the Apollo 11 buggy was supposed to be. | ||
Davidmg Member Post Number: 92 Registered: 03-2008 |
This probably has been said before elsewhere but, there are 3 things that I for one people should note about Apollo 11. 1) I do not recall ever seeing a picture of the sun in direct view of the landing craft or the astronauts. 2) Where does the car / rover fit on the lander when there is only room for the pilots and the engines. Also I don't recall see footage of them building it. Did the rover just show up? Valé service i suppose. 3) Given the size of the space suit and the inner cabin area as well as the opening of the capsule, how did they fit through the opening? Their suits are so big and bulky. Davidmg | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 404 Registered: 10-2009 |
Good points David. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2196 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi David.... 1) Yes, it was mentioned that the Sun was in their backs. And individuals have indicated that the SHADOWS are not constant, either. 2) It was supposed to be a 'Folding' vehicle. It could be folded up and hung in the Lunar Module quad 1 bay section(; there are 4 sections of bays alongside the craft; See image + X View). 3) Well, the size of their suits most make it possible for them to enter and exit, I would think. This was all prepared before the mission. [See image +Z View Ladder and Door, above ladder.]  Edward. | ||
Curlymoses Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 09-2006 |
I was studying the works of Stanley Kubrick when I came across a video called Kubrick's Odyssey - Secrets Hidden in the Films of Stanley Kubrick. The video maker clearly states that the information he presents is pure speculation. I went back and re-read contact reports 203 and 357 about the Apollo 11 swindle. I knew Walt Disney was named as the main conceptual/technical artist and therefore, I rejected the notion that Kubrick could be involved (thus, he was not attempting to disclose knowledge of, or involvement with the Apollo 11 hoax through movies like The Shinning and Eyes Wide Shut). In Contact 357 it mentions the death of Disney in 1966 (I think), so he never saw the project come into being with von Braun and Stuhlinger. Now it seems possible to me that Kubrick could have been involved (thus, he may have been attempting to disclose knowledge of, or involvement with the Apollo 11 hoax through movies like The Shinning and Eyes Wide Shut). Has anyone in FIGU touched this one with a ten foot pole? | ||
Curlymoses Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 09-2006 |
Note the clean state of the Foot Pads of the lander. Note the position of the Thruster. Zero particles from Apollo 11 landing site are kicked up and into the bowl shaped Foot Pads of Lander. In depth analysis of these and more images can be found at marsanomalyresearch.com   | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2250 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Curlymoses... Excellent observation! Both postings. Would not be surprised if Kubrick was involved. US intelligence agencies are quite 'infiltrated' in the Hollywood motion picture scene, as far as I know from reading and docs, in the past. If not for US Propaganda films, why not even for such things as the Apollo 'illusion', no? Edward. | ||
Marbar Member Post Number: 189 Registered: 12-2009 |
With the Appolo 11 hoax video and pictures, there were no stars in the background. I'm wandering, When Billy was on the moon, did he see any stars or the sun? | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 579 Registered: 03-2007 |
Tosin: “<snip>… (apollo 11 fake landing which of recent wiki leak confirm billy about )” Really? Do you have a reliable link to this story because I would love to read about it? I did a search myself and the only story I could find was at this site here: http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i87390 But there was a disclaimer at the bottom stating: "The story above is a satire or parody. It is entirely fictitious." The Spoof is a fabricated satirical newspaper and comedy website published by Spoof Media Ltd. Regards Bob |
