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Sarah
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Post Number: 154
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 01:53 pm: | 
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Because we are in a point of time in what they call Global Gewalt, where I assume you mean not everyone is ready here Billy's prophesies as what they are? Billy's prophesies about World War III, are simply warnings of what could happen, if we don't shy away from this global Gewalt.
But my thing is, it seems like the Us government, and since yesterday the EU (They passed the sanctions against Iran), are contributors of this global negative energy.
I was watching the Rt news, where this one news ancor said it would be simply inadvisable to rush to quickly into a military intervention. But then, since when has America shoo away from inadvisable stuff?
We've attacked Iraq which had nothing to do with terrorism, we might of had a subtle involvement in Egypt, we gave aid in Libya, we possibly attacked other countries surrounding Russia. What else would the plan be, if something military isn't being planned. |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 08:27 pm: |
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"As to Semjase's statement: Hopefully, we will have gained enough from reincarnating as "true human beings" that our weapons technologies will be enough to defend ourselves as we deal with these degenerates in an exemplary way and with the appropriate gewalt. I do not sense that Semjase is suggesting any humility or fear towards them, but, that we should have a clear sense of the reality so that correct measures and steps can be taken."
- Eddie
Thankyou, Eddie. Should the society of Earthlings be absorbed by another off-world society that is only slightly less barbaric than our own, that is indeed what we will have left to fall back on - our own wisdom and patience honed over many lifetimes of incarnating on this planet Earth. Hopefully it will be enough - since it will have to be. I do consider it a forgone conclusion at this point, since the future is built upon the present, and at present we Earthlings have a hard time figuring out which humane values are worth grooming and which are slick justifications for selfishness. A society that wallows in selfishness does not progress, and will not compete at the sub-galactic scale. Any FIGU society that exists at that time will have to be self-sustaining to a great degree.
Yes, I have lots of ideas for building a FIGU community. I think about it all the time, it just never stops with me. I wake in the morning thinking about how to help the world evolve into a better place, and I go to sleep each night weary of thinking the same thoughts. The formulas for building community are simple, they just need people to really commit to them. I do hope that people here, FIGUians, will come together to build communities and build businesses, hand in hand, as this is the only viable way forward for us now. IMHO to some extent, everybody here should be thinking in terms of Law, Business, Entrepreneurship, Finance, and Community Planning.
Life
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Cpl
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Post Number: 612
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 10:01 pm: |
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Most Japanese will tell you that they felt trapped by petro-sanctions or some such in the early 20th century, which, they say, left them with no alternative but to attack Pearl Harbor and to try to fight their way out by going to war.
For these new sanctions to impact Iran to the degree that it could no longer pursue its nuclear power generation activities Iran would be absolutely financially bankrupt. It already had 20% inflation last year.
There are many political and economic ways to fight or instigate a war. The US obviously favors the other side being seen as the instigator. The question may be whether Iran will lash out or go down quietly, or survive due to help from its military friends China and Russia, or Shiite neighbors.
The situation is actually very volatile, but war does not have to result. Perhaps Iran can learn from the past (Japan's error) and find a peaceful/diplomatic answer to the problems it faces, perhaps with assistance from Russia and China.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Sarah
Member
Post Number: 155
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 05:44 am: |
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Or it could end up being life the Gulf Of Tonkin event? Do people really underestimate America's ability to plant false flag invasions? |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 358
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 12:58 pm: |
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Thankyou, Eddie. Should the society of Earthlings be absorbed by another off-world society that is only slightly less barbaric than our own, that is indeed what we will have left to fall back on - our own wisdom and patience honed over many lifetimes of incarnating on this planet Earth.
Michaelhelfert, if I'm not mistaken; there is no need to worry about such degenerate extraterrestrials, until, we terrestrials develop technologies that can travel beyond our own solar system.
If you read carefully Semjase's comment during her discussion, you will find, it corroborates the above and you will read mention of the above in the Contact Notes.
Billy (spiritform) being an Arahat Athersata, as he demonstrated as Jmmanuel to Billy and Asket, has a unique perspective on things. Billy wrote a work titled "The Way To Live" - check it out.
Salome,
Eddie
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 71
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2012 - 02:33 am: |
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Moderator: Chris Thanks for everything i lost the plot the other day
delete this post please
Salome
Peter
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 08:00 am: |
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Howdy Eddie,
It is not too early to prepare for this event. People in other parts of the galaxy plan for the future on the order of thousands of years. If we are gonna play in this sandbox, we need to do the same. If we don't, well, lets just say that Earthlings will be incapable of winning the galactic game, nor of even placing.
Be happy, enjoy our (somewhat) peaceful existence, but plan for reality, no matter how many lifetimes off it may be.
Life
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Hawaiian
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 09:38 pm: |
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Just a historical political fact that during wars not one U.S. president has every lost an election, so yes it is a scary thought to consider. Iran is an exporter of oil, so why does it need nuclear energy?
And yes, Japan was forced to go to war because of sanctions and its dependence on oil, maybe a new source of energy could help relieve the economic/political pressure of oil consumption? |
Ilovebilly
Member
Post Number: 80
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 08:36 pm: |
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G'day Cpl
re:
There are many political and economic ways to fight or instigate a war. The US obviously favors the other side being seen as the instigator. The question may be whether Iran will lash out or go down quietly, or survive due to help from its military friends China and Russia, or Shiite neighbors.
From reading the Contact Notes and forum i see it this way
Russia attacks Iran 1st not the USA
My Thoughts are Russia is seeing the oil around it being taken by usa and Russia is being hedged in, the last decent oil deposits of size are in Iran
The USA Moves closer to Iran through Syria so Russia invades Iran then USA Invades Iran
then what?
If i was Russia i would not say very much as i know surprise is vital, they have given a warning
China i dont see is ready for the likes of the usa yet, they can compare capabilities and its technology that counts. They remember ww1 and ww2 and how crazy we got then
Salome
Peter
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining
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Edward
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Post Number: 2339
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2012 - 12:41 am: |
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Hi Sarah...
As far as I heard, is, that Iran will stop all its oil deliveries, with
exception to the 'I-O-U'...countries, which contracts are still in affect; and
to all other countries whom take sanctions towards them: the goods will not be
delivered.
Edward. |
Sarah
Member
Post Number: 159
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2012 - 05:34 am: |
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ILoveBilly: Are you aware though that aware swore to protect Iran? S why would Russia attack someone their trying to protect? And if they are protecting, thatwould pose a problem being only half allies with Russia in the US. Just a peculiarity I noticed. |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 218
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2012 - 06:10 pm: |
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Hi Sarah,
I think it would be more of an invasion then an attack on Iran. If Russia invaded Iran their presence would stop the US from trying to invade or attack Iran. |
Hunter
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Post Number: 368
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 03:35 pm: |
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Massive U.S. Military Buildup Reported Around Iran; Up to 100,000 Troops Ready By March
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/massive-u-s-military-buildup-reported-around-iran-up-to-100000-troops-ready-by-march_01302012
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Corey
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Post Number: 112
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 01:59 pm: |
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Dear Peter,
you wrote "From reading the Contact Notes and forum i see it this way
Russia attacks Iran 1st not the USA"
can you cite your source contact reports and source forum postings for this statement? I am interested in reading them.
Salome
Corey |
Sarah
Member
Post Number: 160
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 05:47 am: |
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Yes, however the word invasion implies attacking Iraqi soldiers when their your allies. Which doesnt make a whole lot of since. But then wars don't make since. |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 599
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 09:13 am: |
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This past Sunday there was an interview with US Defense Secretary, Leon Panetta, which appeared on the CBS program, 60 Minutes. Commentation provided by Scott Pelley observed that given Iranian nuclear scientists are being bombed, an Iranian missile facility mysteriously blown up and a computer virus wrecked an Iranian uranium enrichment plant and also given that a US spy drone fell in Iran, America and its allies are already waging war without sending thousands of troops. It may be that one of the years prophesied in the Meier material for the commencement of WWIII, 2011, might be accurate after all.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/05/world/middleeast/blast-leveling-base-seen-as-big-setback-to-iran-missiles.html?pagewanted=all
The full interview with Panetta can be found here:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7396828n |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 615
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 05:04 pm: |
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Bob, no need to find news to fit a prophecy. Such news items could be found for every month & every year for the last decade.
However, I will say with Panetta appearing on 60 minutes, the Obama campaign for reelection has begun, covertly. With loud-mouth republican candidates (ex Ron Paul) accusing Obama of being soft on Iran and his policy being a disaster, regarding Iran; Panetta spelled it out:"nuclear weapons are a line we will not let Iran cross"
imo, that was a political statement, by Obama. |
Joe
Member
Post Number: 181
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - 06:34 am: |
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I know this has nothing to to do with the FIGU material but is it normal for US military trains to be this long? ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n118IwMQQPc |
Ilovebilly
Member
Post Number: 82
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - 07:46 am: |
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G'day Sarah
There is no logic in war, its like saying Germany had a pact with Russia pre ww2 so they wont invade but they did.
G'day Matt yes to stop usa from getting the oil
G'day Corey: I didnt save this info
G'day Sarah: Correct
Salome
Peter
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 03:31 am: |
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German magazine "Spiegel" reports that the US government fears Israel to attack Iran in a few months based on a recent article in the Washington Post.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,813072,00.html
Salome |
Dez
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 04:56 pm: |
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The Isreali Defence Minister has today once again starting talking about attacking Irans Nuclear Facility. This is starting to worry me! 
My understanding so far is if Isreal does that, Billy said China will then attack Isreal with Nuclear bombs, and thus start World War 3. There is also talk here in this section about the possibility of Russia also attacking or invading Iran too!
What I don't understand and would also like to know too is when is Russia supposed to invade/attack Iran, before or after Isreal attacks Iran? And if Russia does attack/invade Iran, would that stop the threat of World War 3 happening and from the US attacking Iran?
I'm not quite sure on what I'm reading here about what people are saying on this matter. Is it a good thing from WW3 point of view if Russia invades/attacks Iran? |
Sarah
Member
Post Number: 163
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2012 - 09:22 pm: |
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I found a new article, it says Israel undecided on attacking Iran: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/05/obama-israel-undecided-on-attack-against-iran/
But then another article says: http://theintelhub.com/2012/02/05/u-s-and-israel-set-stage-for-false-flag-and-iran-attack-2/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+intelhub+(The+Intel+Hub)
I think it was Billy who said 9/11 was allowed to happen, but not an inside job. I wonder if the Iran thing will be the same way? Lets hope not. |
Edward
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Post Number: 2344
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 12:57 am: |
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Hi All....
I even watched here, on a number of TV News Reports, that minister Barak of
Israel is - warmongering - and to attack Iran as soon as possible. Within a
half year, or something.
If he goes on like this, he will indeed ignite the WW3 scenario....??
Edward. |
