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Redbeard
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Post Number: 223
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hawaiian,

It was what it was, and it is what it is....

Don't you just love a challenge?!!!!!
"But where intellect and rationality as well as the will for independence, truth, and responsibility are missing, no cognition can be gained." Quetzal, CR 206
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 748
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh , leave him alone , at least he thinks about this enough to gather a conclusion .

A preface would be sharp , though !

Cheers , MC
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Dez
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Post Number: 54
Registered: 05-2011
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know the answer to my question? I don't want to sound pushy, but I spent a considerable amount of time trying to find the answer in the notes and in the forum and found no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I would have preferred to ask this question in the "Questions to Billy Answered by Ourselves" section so as to not bother Billy but unfortunetly it is closed.
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Edward
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Post Number: 2373
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Dez...

If I remember it correctly, even the Brown (Asian) population is of ET origin.

Than referring to the populations you mentioned; not to forget, that from
here, other species arose through their intermixing with each other.

Not to get confused with the ALREADY Brown population whom are the original
decedents of Earth.


Edward.
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Earthling
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Post Number: 624
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dez - I don't think there is any specific info regarding your off shoot branch "slanty eyed" peoples question.

I did a search for "slanty eyes" in all FIGU material and found nothing, but I did find -

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slanty%20eye
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Rarena
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Post Number: 749
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Dez,

How do you do? My name is Randy and I guess your question is to do with the Vietnamese having similar ancestry as the yellow Asian races? Either way I wanted to impart that rereading: And Still They Fly might be helpful or using one of the many websites such as http://futureofmankind.co.uk/ and or Theyfly.com (with an extensive library of informative DVD's etc) looking through each and every one of the Plejaren Contact notes (there are over 500) to find your complete answer. Many who answer questions here have done exactly that. But you know... it is most important to do it yourself, do your own homework as the difficulty of finding an answer is directly proportional to the length of time you remember that resulting finding. We learn a little at a time yet we are all equal.

I just reread Guido's excellent book: And Still They Fly where on page 244 it says that no less that 79 pure human races were created by the almighty Spirit of Creation (exactly 40,353,607). The races have intermingled during the coarse of time and the number of races has now reached a new total of approximately one thousand decimillion (ten to the sixty third power) or ten followed by sixty three zeros!

Since we know we are all equal or at least should be treated that way... it probably makes little difference which race comes from where... In previous reading it is more important to improve our spiritual/consciousness rather than our physical knowledge such as which race came from where as it could be construed by those less evolved to sound a bit racist. I've found from previous studies that the Asian races came from a distant planet on the other side of the Milky way (our galactic plane) from a planet named NISSAN (spelling may be wrong, from my memory) which has a moon almost the same size as the mother planet which is similar sized as this earth.

Salome: Be greeted in Peace and Wisdom.
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Memo00
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Post Number: 561
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Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 05:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Dez

In fact the yellow race was the first to arrive millions of years ago but they all died due to the unstable conditions of the planet then.

I have only read about two races coming some thousands of years ago (Chinese and Japanese). I think that most probably the inhabitants of other countries nearby are a mix of them with other races.

Salome
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Thomas
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 08-2011
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 05:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dez, no answer means that people don't have, or don't intend to give, the answer. However, your own post gives the likely answer. Recall how you mentioned the similar body traits? Seems that you have a big clue there even if noone else responds. I personally do not know the answer to your question.

I hope that helps you out a little...

Have a great day everyone!!!
Thomas
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Smukhuti
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Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The fact that 100% of earth population has a shortened lifespan of about 75-100 years means that 100% of earth humans have ET genes (i.e. the manipulated gene). If that qualifies as being of ET ancestry, then the whole of earth humanity can have our ancestry traced to some ET or other.
"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." - Carl Jung
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Dez
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Post Number: 55
Registered: 05-2011
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,

Thanks for all your replies, much appreciated!

Thomas, concerning the similar body traits. They do have similar bodies but the Asians (vietnamese, phillopians, ect) also have some things different to the Chinese/Japanese people. The Asians appear to have darker skins, larger bonier heads and slightly bow legged.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 509
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 06:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> I think some characteristics can be considered to be adaptations to climate, sun, terrain and other factors.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 510
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> I think it was mentioned that this is the result of interbreeding between those who came her and those indigenous to the planet, which wouldn't seem to me to qualify in exactly the same way.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 449
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 06:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Dez, in the Jan/Feb 2012 edition of Archaelogy, there is a relief (I tried to find it online, but you have to subscribe to find this picture) which is from about 6,000 BC which show six Iranian guards who are all dressed the same and all are holding a spear. But when you look closely (with a magnifying glass) you'll see their facial features are all different. There are two yellow races, brown, white, red and black - all standing side by side with weapons, so it was obvious to me that all the races did get along at some point in history. I'm pretty sure from reading the contact reports that these were the original races.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Dez
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Post Number: 56
Registered: 05-2011
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Micheal and Justsayno,

Yes, seems our history is full of interbreeding.
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Edward
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sheila....

You mean 'original' Earth races?

As I understood, Earth's original races were of Brown to Dark Brown, almost
what we also define as Black. A planet generates between 3-4 different races.

In the TJ, Jmmanuel mentioned himself being helped by his Hindoe friends which
were original Earth humans. So, in this direction we can speak of the Indians
of India, and that region; as being one of the 3-4 races.


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 2375
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Smukhuti....

Yes, I also see it that way.

If that was not the case, the original Earth born humans would live longer
than the Creator overlord's creations/humans.

Unless, in the past others have conducted new gene manipulations...just as
their forefathers the Creator overlords??


Edward.
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Hawaiian
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Post Number: 60
Registered: 05-2011
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, do you ever mesh/mess things together to create these "certainties" of your own imagination.
Maybe because of your limitations you put upon yourself are the reasons why you cannot or will not make these logical connections, because it certainly relates to Billy’s assumptions that everything and everyone is connected in some way or form? Michael you claim to be a “representative” of the English speaking Americans, but it appears your assumptions are speculative and shallow in depth that lacks dimensional comprehension.

I’ve given excellent examples of the waking and dreaming states, but unfortunately the moderators are censoring this information from others who may benefit from thinking that is not one-dimensional.

Can we just remember that WE are responsible for OURSELVES and focus on that?

You forget that what has conspired towards your present day situation is NOT exclusively self evident but as a result of others as well. Only a fool will think otherwise because the solution is also interdimensional in scope and requires input from both internal as well as external. So Michael why haven’t you answered the question whether in your dream would you have just remained neutral and passive and let some rapist proceed with his crime or would you have intervened? Or are you more concerned that dreams are in your words “just imaginations”?

There will be a time when this opportunity will present itself and hope that your “imagination” bears positive fruit? When will people apply themselves and begin to take control of their life aspect? Going about in a positive-neutral bearing is fine, but will not get you anywhere as fast as if one applies themselves in a logical humane fashion.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 450
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 06:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward, I listed the figures on the relief from left to right, but after thinking about it, it seems I should have gone from right to left - starting with the black race (as you said), then the 3 races of red, white and brown and later on the two yellow races. Would that be chronologically correct?
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Jacob
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hawaiian,

Addressing your 'excellent' examples of waking and dreaming states and that active participation in a dream have any influence in the real world is just utter nonsense; I have checked the spirit lessons on this and starting from lesson 130 and up >240 I have found NO proof to your claim at all.

It takes at least 11 years to get to this point in the Spirit teaching and the whole section about dreams and dream interpretation lasts more then 10 years from that point on.
There are: Shock-dreams, Worry-dreams, subconsciousness-dreams, unconscious-dreams, Body-Dreams, Serial-dreams, Negative dreams, etc, etc, etc,. None of them about acting in a dream and thereby interaction with reality.

If one wants to stop any crime then one has to be physically there and/or have physical means to stop that crime.

The moderators reserve the right to moderate, ergo, to allow, edit or deny posts when they seem fit, and your claims about dreams have no foothold in the truth whatsoever.
Salome,
Jacob

Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 511
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hawaiian,

FYI, regarding your misrepresentation of my "claim", I am contracted by Billy Meier and FIGU to be the voluntary, Authorized American Media Representative for the Billy Meier Contacts. You may certainly express any dissatisfaction you have with my representation of the material as I, like everyone else, am a work in progress and make mistakes.

However, my "job description" DOESN'T include specializing in "dimensional comprehension" or jerking myself around with the, er, weighty considerations of "dream intervention". Perhaps some real world intervention on your part would be a more productive use of your time. As for "this opportunity" presenting itself, I suggest you watch our film, Breaking the Silence, freely available here:

http://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/play/8183/Breaking-the-Silence

And my real world - waking - work with young people in drug and alcohol rehabilitation programs began in 1978. Were you…dreaming then?
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 66
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just a gentle reminder to you all that Smoky the Bear always used to say and still does "That only you can prevent Forest and Wildfires"!
"Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs! And anyone who never has made a mistake in his whole entire life has never ever tried to do anything new."
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hawaiian,

You are a good person, you mean well and are a natural teacher. Consider the following insight and allegory from Zen.

A certain university professor went to visit a Zen master to satisfy his curiosity and confirm for himself whether the master was truly a knowledgeable and wise man, or, if it was all hype. Upon being introduced to the master, the master asked him to join him for a cup of tea. The master began to fill the professor's cup. To the professor's alarm, the cup was reaching its maximum capacity, still the master kept pouring. The tea reached the brim of the cup and began to over flow, yet the master continued to pour and spill over the tea onto the table. The professor screamed out, "sir, the cup will not hold any more tea! STOP!" Then the master explained that one's learning is dependent on the mind being as an empty cup. The master explained that in order for the professor to learn anything new, regardless of all his accumulated knowledge, he would first have to prepare his mind like an empty cup, so that he would then be in a position to learn knowledge he has never tasted.

We have all come to the modern day prophet with much of our own accumulated knowledge. Due to convictions, egoism and other non-virtues, we fill our own cups to the brim and are unable to learn the correct and complete knowledge.

My friend, I myself am guilty of this. I too came here on this forum, thinking I had accumulated certain correct understandings...only to find out later that it was not correct knowledge.

Myself, you and everyone here must stop to think and ponder. I had stated some things, which were corrected by the moderators, which corrections were in conflict with my understanding to some degree or another. Fortunately, I really was seeking knowledge and understanding, even though my ego and convictions were being challenged, I considered the fact that I am the one who came here. Where it is reputed that the "true" knowledge is sourced.

Like the professor and the zen master, we must empty our cups in order to taste the tea of the true prophets.

We must first acquire the teachings of the true prophets, study them, analyze them, test their merit and value in our own lives and selves. We owe, a responsibility, to our selves, to seek out, obtain and study the teachings of the prophet; to know for ourselves if there is any merit and value.

It is impossible, that ANY of us can even begin to fathom the level of knowledge, understanding, and even less, the evolutive level of an Arahat Athersata spiritform. I know you agree with this statement. Therefore, our own wisdom will dictate that we are truly in the presence of a great master, from whom so much is there to learn from. Interestingly, this great master, through example, shows us the way of true modesty.

Seek first to obtain and study the spirit teachings. Print out the free Goblet of Truth and devour it daily for knowledge and understanding. Then you will be the true teacher which is striving to come out. Then your love to teach will have power, knowledge and understanding. Then you can live your existence without worry or reproach of disseminating incorrect information, but rather, you will be endowed with the true power (Creation's love for all the created) and you will be a great blessing to everyone in your midst. You will be one of the true human beings that bring great light to the darkness of the world population of misguided human beings; due to their having learned incomplete or utterly erroneous knowledge.

As I stated above; you are a good person, you mean well and are a natural teacher. But your gifts are being wasted by your 'current' (what influences your) personality. I am no longer the same personality that first arrived here. I have applied the teachings and can personally vouch for them. You must first gain the power you incarnated at this time to acquire...but the challenge is to sometimes overcome the present personality and the barriers our personalities often challenge us with for our own evolution, knowledge and wisdom...through modesty.

Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Marbar
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Post Number: 217
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ever since I heard of the continent of Atlantis, it seems like this planet use to have eight continents. Now, this is where the concept of Pangea comes in.

Since Pangea is when all the 7 current continents are all one land mass, not including Atlantis. The reason, many geologists and others think Atlantis never existed.

Now, with Atlantis being in the picture; should the concept of Pangea be dismissed?

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