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Justsayno
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Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I actually witnessed a meteorite in November of 2008. It lit up the whole sky, but no shock wave and no one was injured. Oddly it happened close to an air weapons range.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Marbar
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

About the people on the planet Akart, was the planet overpopuation when Billy was on his space trip? If so, I have an idea. Why don't Ptaah go to that planet and have a person who went through that overpopulation problem or a descendent of that person and have him or her visit the SSSC to talk with Billy?

With that, we could truly learn alot from that person.
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Corey
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2011 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marbar,

maybe you should pose that question to Billy in the next round.

Salome

Corey
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Norm
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2011 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marbar, There's no need for that. Billy already told us just about everything that will happen to us & is happening to us already.
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Sarah
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2011 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wait, does planet akrt even exist anymore? I get conflicting reports just on that itself.

One thing I'm curious, why can some people realize overpopulation = bad, and that something needs to be done about it? Not overpopulation is bad, because x, x, and x. Just overpopulation is bad and harmful?
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Corey
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Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2011 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sarah, overpopulation is bad because it harms our planet, the environment, it's people in a variety of ways Billy has said this is the number one evil on our planet all other evils boil down to overpopulation as it's root cause. Religious thinking and war are also despicable.

Salome

Corey
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Sarah
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Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2011 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didn't use the best grammar. I meant, why can't we just be satisfied with, "Hey guess what, overpopulation is bad. Lets do something about it!" I realize its trying to convince the people that don't see it as a problem, but a lot of people it seems like just can't be convinced.
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Corey
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Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2011 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sarah, the unfortunate truth is the masses won't be convinced until after everything is a desert, with no more food and water, flora and fauna. Then we'll see all kinds of birth regulations.

Salome

Corey
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Sarah
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone heard about Dr. Webster Tarpley? He literally says with a straight face, that its the US government thats making us believe, BELIEVE that overpopulation is the source of all our ills. And says that the situation is a massive hoax.
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Corey
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sarah,

Sounds as though Dr. Webster Tarpley is not worthy of the title of "Dr".

Salome

Corey
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Michaelhelfert
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Webster Tarpley frequently speaks at length about conspiracy stuff from a cynical perspective. Much of his stuff is unsubstantiated, yet he is invariably critical of our "liberal government", environmentalism, and progressive thinking. He maintains a perspective that is antithetical to the Mission.
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Sarah
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats one thing I don't really understand, why are these conspiracy theorists so adamant against Overpopulation?

For me, is more like there is both a good and bad form of regulating the population number.

Bad/Illogical/Harmful - Really really large wars, or nuking a good portion of the states.

Good/Logical/Beneficial - Contraceptives, Voluntary Sterilization.

My hypothesis is that perhaps they are against population regulation by a large scale war, and simply don't realize (Or just don't want to realize) that we don't mean population control by large scale war.
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Michaelhelfert
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 04:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"...why are these conspiracy theorists so adamant against Overpopulation?"
- Sarah



The Holy Bible says so. On the sixth day of creation GOD created the Jews and commanded them to be fruitful and multiply, as is recounted in the first chapter of the first book of the official Kings James version of the Bible.

Genesis, Chapter 1, verse

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.



Then again after saving Noah's family, HE commands them to reproduce.

Genesis, Chapter 9, verse

1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.

3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.



GOD never said to the Jews, and to the Christians that sprang from their loins, to use restraint. HE says "Go forth and multiply". Obviously this means "Go forth and multiply". You don't argue with GOD. Just say "Thy will be done" and do it.

That and people just don't want to face reality.
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Sarah
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh yes, never mind that their isn't any evidence old bog and his holy angels existed.

Here is another error with the argument with their god idea. Wasnt God Komogol the second or first?

I think someone mentioned how who we credit as a god was a megalomaniac.O_o

Either way, I'd rather just be safe use use contraceptives.
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Joe
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Posted on Monday, March 12, 2012 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On the one hand using energy efficient light bulbs and appliances should help reduce one's electricity bill and reduce carbon emissions but on the other hand when there is overpopulation the amount of energy that's needed always increases every year which in turn results in more carbon emissions.

Although this article doesn't mention overpopulation, one should nevertheless get the idea.

Clive Thompson on Unsaving the Planet ---> http://www.wired.com/magazine/2012/02/st_thompson_energy/
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Sarah
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Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was looking over the birth control petition in futureofmankind.net

I'm ok with the petition except on some minor points. First why 33 and not 35 for male reproduction? Seems a bit arbitrary to me. Also adopting kids into a foster family is no better than having to many kids, unless you can assure that they wont experience physical beatings of any kind.

Here in Tennessee, you just can't assure that. More strict penalties need to be applied to those who beat their kids. First beating, absolute revocal of reproductive rights, and mandatory foster family for their kids.
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Melissa
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Posted on Monday, April 23, 2012 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found a very informative and interesting article on global warming and overpopulation, etc. I'll copy and paste a short-bit from the article and also include a link.


...short bit...
"Between 1970 and 1989, losses from disasters of all sorts averaged about $5 billion a year globally, notes Mark Way, who heads sustainable-development efforts in the Americas for the reinsurance firm Swiss Re. Since 1989, losses have averaged some $30 billion a year, driven in large part by weather-related disasters. Last year, losses in the US hit $35 billion, more than half the $61 billion in losses from severe weather globally.

At this point, the increase in losses has more to do with rapid population growth and a build-up of wealth in some of the most vulnerable areas – along coastlines, for instance – than with global warming, both the IPCC report and Mr. Way note.

One example of the impact adaptation can have shows up along the Indian Ocean coast.

In 2008, tropical cyclone Nargis hit Myanmar, killing more than 138,000 people. A year earlier, a slightly stronger tropical cyclone Sidr hit Bangladesh, killing more than 3,400 people. Both countries fall into the “least developed” category. But the effects were far different."

http://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/text/Environment/2012/0328/Climate-change-report-time-to-start-preparing-for-the-worst

-Melissa
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Sarah
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Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Something I don't understand, I can understand why it might become legally mandatory to hand out condoms, and make it legally required to seperate a couple by gender for life if they have to many kids.

However, since when has it ever been a good idea to let a psychiatric therapist have a say in whether a patients child has a vesectomy, or to even recommend it?

There was a brief time when they made it legally required for mentally ill patients to have their balls call off as part of their treatment.

Again, nothing wrong withj handing out condoms, and seperating people by gender for life, but asking a thirteen year old child parents to give their childs vesectomy is a bit extreme.

We are overpopulated, but there are other things we can do to curb overpopulation, that doesn't involve giving a thirteen year old a vesectomy. Uh..like condoms.
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sarah.....


Am not an expert about this, but, I would think if the psychiatric therapist
collected enough evidence to support his/her findings, they would come to
that conclusion(?). A real expert on this would KNOW....that further
life/offspring (of the concerning individual) is in his/her hands. Thus, a
crucial decision is made/determined.

Could be a solution, or perhaps not?

We just have to come to conclusion WHAT the 'safest' is, no?

I think, such practices/solutions, should indeed only be applied to a
selected few which are 'allegeable' here for; due, to their circumstances,
etc.; each....

Thus, the history, of the concerning individual would play a significant
role, here...for the out-come, and the decision making.

If this prevents 'unnecessary' population growth, it can be a good idea(?).

We have to start...somewhere...not?

At the rate we are going with Global Overpopulation, we must keep an Open
Mind for suggestions....I would think. Even though we do not always agree
with it.

Sometimes the Plejarans do mention certain scenarios which may not be aligned
with our thoughts of logic, but must be taken...in order to make a correct
out-come, reality: according to THEIR Logic.

So, you see, it becomes: The Battle of the Logics!

Well, the Plejarans KNOW us MORE....than we know ourselves, so, I would say,
that their Logic would be the most appropriate for all concerned; not only us
Earth humans.....


Edward.
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Corey
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Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all,

Probably by now all of you have heard of Chinese dissident Chen Guangcheng who is hiding in the US embassy in Beijing. The little known backstory behind it all is that Chen's crimes of activism weren't about human rights like the western media is claiming but he was put under house arrest for protesting China's mandatory abortions and sterilizations under their one child per family law.

Now the dissident is hiding in a US embassy, the western media is all in a tizzle about "human rights", and US/China diplomatic relations are at their all time low in 30 years.

I think Chen should be handed over to the Chinese government immediately (demonstrating against the one child per family law is a punishable offence in China) but that likely won't happen because most western diplomats do not think to kindly over China's one child per family law. We probably need something similar if not stricter birth control regulations planetary wide here on Terra. The question is where are future generations "human rights" when conditions on Earth get worse due to our horrendous and unnecessary overpopulation?

If you don't believe Billy's warnings about the future just read Lester Brown's warnings about not stabilizing the Earth's population levels. They may not be perfect, but at least China is the only country to try and do something about their overpopulation problem. That's how I see it. Further inaction just equates to worse future consequences (law of cause and effect) and like it said in Arahat Athersata one way or another population levels must be lowered to 529,000,000. The Earth will start doing it for us if we don't. China is well aware of how much their deserts are growing each year and how strained their water sources are becoming.

Salome

Corey
OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker.
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Corey
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Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm aware that abortions are barbaric and murderous (after the 21st day) and I am not condoning China's use of them. On the flipside of that coin so is overpopulation. It's the forced sterilizations that I support... one child and your done- sterilized. I read in the contact reports that other overpopulated planets use microwaves for sterilization.

Until our planet would set up rigorous birth control methods with the recommended 7 year birth rate checks and limit child bearing to three children per qualified family per wife which unfortunately probably won't be until far in the future. Which will be way after our planet and it's citizens have suffered consequences as a result of inaction.

Salome

Corey
OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker.
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Sarah
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Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Seperation by gender for life is just as effective as removal of the testicals. Didnt you read that the Plejerens said that two children per family is ok?

And if you noticed, even with one child per family policy in force, its obviously not stopping them from having any more kids.
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Rintintin
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Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi...
Yesterday I sent an e-mail to Senator Marco Rubio here in USA the web-page "The Future of Mankind", specifically the part that talks about overpopulation, and asked him to try to implement this policy.

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