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    J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1413 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Hello Michaelhelfert I read in one of the recent contact notes (or maybe it was in a bulletin (?) ) that the Plejaren said there are more than 7.5-Million inhabited planets in our Milky Galaxy. Of these, some 2-Million (more or less) are more advanced than our own here on Earth. Of course, there are many trillions more in the total Universe. So Scientific American speculation does not correspond to Truth. It will still be some time before Science gains the Spiritual insights, but first they need to get past their "know-it-all" arrogance. Salome *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 91 Registered: 04-2011 |
G'day Folks In the Wendelle Stevens videos in an interview with Beam he said if we dont decide what we want to be in the next life (Male or Female) before we die it can cause confusion for the Spirit when its forming a body Salome Peter Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. | ||
Marbar Member Post Number: 210 Registered: 12-2009 |
One of the world's oldest trees burned down: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/21/us/disbelief-still-as-florida-reacts-to-burning-of-3500-year-old-tree.html | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 45 Registered: 09-2011 |
Thanks, J_rod7, for the reiteration. In reference to how many advanced civilizations are in our one galaxy alone, I LOVE these numbers! Contact Report 223 Quetzal 105. That is what I wanted to say. 105. Das wollte ich sagen. 106. Known to us, in this galaxy, are only 2,630,000 highly developed human civilizations, which actually belong together, whereby, from other galaxies known to us, a further 1,141,000,000 can be factored in. 106. Eigentliche zusammengehörende hochentwickelte menschliche Zivilisationen sind uns in dieser Galaxie nur 2,63 Millionen bekannt, wobei noch 1141 Millionen aus anderen uns bekannten Galaxien hinzuzurechnen sind. 107. We know of 1,040,000 civilizations which are developed to an essentially low level in this galaxy which you call the Milky Way. 107. Eigentliche niedrigentwickelte Zivilisationen in dieser Galaxie, die ihr ja Milchstrasse nennt, sind uns 1,04 Millionen bekannt. 108. Our scientists estimate that in the entire universe about 6,000,000,000,000 to 7,000,000,000,000 essentially human civilizations, of higher and lower form, would have to exist in your material space-time configuration. 108. Gesamtuniversell in eurem materiellen Raum-Zeit-Gefüge, so schätzen unsere Wissenschaftler, dürften etwa 6000 bis 7000 Milliarden eigentliche menschliche Zivilisationen hoher und niedriger Form existieren. Billy What do you understand by "human civilization which essentially belong together"? Was verstehst du unter <eigentliche>? Quetzal 109. That phrase is to be understood as meaning unity of collective progress, which is created through science and technology and thereby also includes developed and improved medical, social and material living conditions, and so forth. 109. Darunter ist die Zusammengehörigkeit der Gesamtheit des Fortschrittes zu verstehen, der durch Wissenschaft und Technik erschaffen ist und damit auch die entwickelten und verbesserten medizinischen, sozialen und materiellen Lebensbedingungen usw. beinhaltet. The principle of coincident evolution guided by morphic fields dictates that we are not alone, indeed, we are unlikely to even be the first. Just statin the facts, here... Not Alone Life | ||
Redhalls Member Post Number: 31 Registered: 03-2010 |
Hi, Hope this is right place to put this... I saw on TV lions eating animals while they're still alive... does this go against the fact that it's recommended to do a quick kill for us humans when we want to say kill chicken, etc? Another example is when a pack of lions start eating an elephant (after they put it down) while it's still alive. Program is called "Lions behaving badly": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8ywpFa6VHI Confused me these things since as far as I know nature should give the examples and do quick kill etc... so what's up with these thing going on? Thanks, Karl | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 237 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi Redhalls, I watched that documentary on cable a while ago now, but while I can't remember all of it now, I do remember from watching others animals shows that most lions generally suffocate their prey first and then start eating, unless its a large pride that made the kill. I don't think you can compare everything that goes on in the animal kingdom with the spirit recommendations for humans. | ||
Redhalls New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2012 |
How I think about it is that humans should make a quick kill because that way animal does not suffer. So the reason it's recommended to do the quick kill is so that animal doesn't feel pain. When lions eat an animal alive that's painful I assume or a lion's month has something special?? It's recommended to NOT make an animal feel pain. But then lions are eating prey alive and that's painful I assume. So regardless of the difference between human and nature what I'm saying is are these prey feeling pain? | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 398 Registered: 08-2010 |
Redhalls, As Matt pointed out, you may be confusing the laws and recommendations of Creation for us humans who have the type of consciousness we have and our ability to think both primitively and evolved...so that we can progress towards merging with Creation. The fact that you "see" this in nature is a very positive thing, but, more analysis and observational thinking and investigation is needed in order to see the actual reality. You are associating your imagination of a pain you would feel if the lion were eating you "alive" with your assumption that this is what the animal is experiencing. I see your point. Do remember, that when a human being or an animal is traumatized, there is a thing called "going into shock." The animals being eaten alive by the lion...take a careful analytical look at their faces, eyes and mouth. These creatures have very unique programmings. What can you do if confronted by a lion? You may be surprised by what Creation has actually done in case it should happen. Take a look at this YouTube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCE8X50W19c Salome, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Redhalls New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2012 |
So in other words these animals aren't feeling pain and/or aren't being tortured so it's all fine. Ok, that's good I didn't know animals when eaten alive by a lion isn't painful for them. Thanks | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 401 Registered: 08-2010 |
There is no way for us to know what level of pain they are experiencing. I would consider, that if they appear to be in shock, then based on my own experiences, they may not be actually feeling it. The way to tell is by closely observing their faces. One should be able to reasonably tell when someone or an animal is in shock. Also, torture is a deliberate form of inflicting pain on a subject in a calculating manner so as to avoid shock to the victim. When the victim suffers shock, the interrogators need to "wake" them back up or snap them out of it in order for the interrogation/torture to yield the desired outcome. Eventually, being shocked too often, which is why interrogators often give the victim a break, the body simply releases the spiritform and the victim dies. Salome, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Redhalls Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 04-2012 |
ok that makes more sense to me now... Thanks! | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 05-2012 |
Were Plejaren ever asked about the LARGEST object in our universe? not a black hole or anything of this sort, but physical celestial body of solid or not-solid nature. There is this popular video on youtube ending with "Red Hypergiant - VY Caris Majoris" as shown there - withe the diameter of 2,800,000,000 km. Any comment on that ? Also, on this subject, what would be largest object that the Plejaren know of, to support human life? I do have lots of study material to go through, thanks to Billy ; ) thus, if anyone already know the answers, they would be much appreciated. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 413 Registered: 08-2010 |
I hope this is the best place for this question. I'm trying to find, through the search bar at TheFutureOfMankind website, the Contact Report wherein Billy and Quetzal discussed the earth replenishing its oil. I was in a discussion with Boris Fritz, a lead scientist at Northrup Grumman, regarding the findings of a friend of his, that the earth's supply of oil could not be attributed solely to fossils. His friend discovered that the earth is replenishing the oil. I reminded Boris of the CPAK lecture he, Walter Cruttenden and John Dering lectured. (John Dering is a physicist who is also involved in "hush-hush projects"). I reminded him of John's mention of the various claims of E.T. visitations, channeling, abductions and so forth, and, that John made mention of claims of visitations by Pleiadians in Switzerland. John mentioned that this group was the only one that had impressed him. Well, my friend remembers this well. He is interested in reading this exchange between Billy and Quetzal regarding the earth regenerating its oil. I really could use this help as the search engine does not function very well. And my time is rather limited. I would also like to state, that Boris is now directly and indirectly responsible for the research and development of many of the technologies we read about in the Contact Reports. Certainly, he is at the early developmental stages, but certainly in the right direction. I'm speaking of programmable matter called foglets (similar to the helmet Billy wore on Ptaah's spacer), teleportation, and other things. He may even be receiving impulses; something I can't help but sense due to some of the things he and I discuss. Boris speaks and reads German fluently. Thnx and salome, Eddie This is all I found so far: Contact Report 214 Billy: Semjase once talked about Earth’s oil reserves, just about those which were known at that time and which should last from then until another 25 years or so. But in the meantime, several other stocks of oil have been found, and this still continues to occur. How will this look, however, in the new millennium? Quetzal: 204. The terrestrial oil reserves, which will become known by the turn of the millennium, should be sufficient in relation to the increasing world population and its consumption of Earth’s oil, from the time mentioned until about another 70 years. 205. But at the same time, it should be noted that this will concern only the quantities of Earth’s oil reserves that are known up to then. 206. Actually, a portion of the petroleum extracted from the Earth is constantly renewed by natural, internal processes of the Earth, as well as by natural plant deposits, animal deposits, and human deposits, due to the processes of decay and transformation, with their death and decay. Here are a couple of links of Boris' lectures for anyone interested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C09Sqs6QTnE (you can see the back of my head in this one :0) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ESuAJfuxAo&feature=related [7:-) | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 621 Registered: 08-2004 |
As far as I know Eddie, that is the latest on oil. I wrote a 39 page report on CN 45 and was informed from Figu or Michael Horn (don't recall which) that CN 214 was the recent update, which would necessitate updates to the latter part and conclusions in my report. My report, that I've never published or sent anywhere due to it not having yet been updated to include CN 214, is available if you'd like to see it. I can send it to anyone as an email pdf attachment. If you'd like a read send me a request to gbcyd@yahoo.com. The report is titled "Semjase/Meier 1976 Contact Note 45: Oil Reserves & Metals Forecast Confirmed Accurate." It did prove remarkably accurate up to the end of the 20th century. It is interesting to note that CN 214 might possibly also be referring to abiotic oil -- oil "constantly renewed by natural, internal processes of the Earth, -- as well as" oil created through organic decomposition. The latter is, of course, the accepted, known and more conventional thinking on how oil is produced. I am not aware of Billy actually confirming or refuting the ideas of abiotic oil. For anyone unfamiliar with abiotic oil a Google search will bring up many reads. Or there is this at Wikkipedia under "Abiogenic Petroleum Origin": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin. Chris Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 414 Registered: 08-2010 |
Thank you Chris, My email is xprezit@gmail.com I would be interested in reading your report. Salome, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 718 Registered: 06-2008 |
If those conversations took place around 1975 and there were 70 years worth of reserves remaining then around 2045 is the limit. However with exponential population growth coupled with demand for oil plus the fact that no viable substitute for widespread energy production has been released ..... released not invented or discovered because several methods have been discovered, researched and developed into reliable workable systems but suppressed and prevented from replacing fossil fuels due to the collusive activities of large corporations such as oil companies and their associated infrastructure spinoffs. It's a bit like religion whereby the same tired, tacky, dangerous, stagnant second rate outdated crapology continues to be promoted and pushed onto the general public because it's a ..... cash cow and sure fire method of maintaining control till the masses start to wake up. Really ..... visit a temple, hear the babble being spoken and promoted as the solemn word of skyman then compare that to what's contained in the contact reports and various Meier publications plus the modest efforts here .... Yes Dorothy there is a Kansas but alas no sky paradise or son of skyman or even skyman but there exists a widespread coordinated effort at convincing anyone who listens that those are real things just as there exists an effort promoting the continued use of fossil fuels. Cheers. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 719 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Cpl, "I am not aware of Billy actually confirming or refuting the ideas of abiotic oil." Somewhere in a conversation with Ptaah it's mentioned that oil renewal is abiotic. I think Billy asked how oil is created and Ptaah gave an extensive answer. So if that conversation is located then it's the confirmation. Cheers. | ||
Redhalls Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 04-2012 |
Hi, A question: I was reading this contact report of Billy: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_228#Pages_463-468_.28Translated_by_Benjamin_Stevens.29 Line 17 Billy says we should not torment animals and about fish he says people catch them and cut them open while they're still alive. I understand that that is torture for the fish to kill it alive. However I have seen lions eat their prey alive on TV, that means they start eating it without killing it first, without suffocating it as they normally do. So if humans cut open animals while they're still alive with a knife it's called torture and cruel but if lions cut open and start eating with their mounths an animal it's not torture? Billy said whatever animal you're going to kill even if it is an insect it should be quick and painless so it doesn't feel anything or understand it's going to die. Well lions some of them aren't doing it quickly and probably not painlessly neither... so why lions behave like this - nature behaving cruel! There's something strange here. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 420 Registered: 08-2010 |
In my thoughts and contemplation I am reminded of the differences of consciousness. Animals having instinctive consciousness. If they are in the wild and acting out instinctively as Creation programmed them, then there is no sin on their part to condemn. We are in effect observing the unfathomable and mystery of all mysteries when we behold nature. Where Creation created the idea of a planet where the consciousness and spiritform can incarnate, have experiences, learn and evolve. The lion has no concept of right or wrong...and neither does the prey. Each is reacting according to their instincts and programming. We on the other hand feel and experience empathy for the prey and understanding for the lion's hunger pangs. Should we not focus on the lessons Creation has in store for us through the very things and life forms it created to teach us about empathy, love, caring, protecting, feeding, living and help-to-live, etc? In the Talmud Jmmanuel, are the true parables which are inspired by nature. From these, we can then proceed to larger expansions of cognition through the observation of nature, if we fathom and understand the principles in his parables. The fact that we can look at nature and experience feelings, thoughts and contemplations says a lot about us. I have known people who have hurt and harmed animals with coldness. I'm glad my heart went out to the creatures...but I must be careful and learn from the emotions that stirred me to want to inflict revenge. Rather than condemning Creation (nature) through the eyes of human ignorance, we should embrace the lessons, but on our part, we should know that when we harm an animal, we are more vicious and brutal, more callus and ignorant than the predators in the wild. One day, by the time when we merge with the Creation, perhaps then or sooner, we will understand why we see and experience these things. These are my thoughts in contemplation only. Salome, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Jokoveltman Member Post Number: 83 Registered: 11-2009 |
Lions and Humans have very different consciousnesses: lions have instinct consciousness, and basically do whatever their instinct tells them to do - they have no insight, reason, or understanding to guide their behaviour. Humans, on the other hand, have exactly those traits, and can understand that eating an animal alive or killing it slowly is torture. They also have the ability to guide their behaviour accordingly (or not). A lion is like the soldier who says, "I was just following orders." While a Human is like the soldier who says, "No, sir! I will not, sir! Waterboarding is torture." | ||
Mac Member Post Number: 25 Registered: 06-2011 |
Need a little help if any of you can provide a link or a definite answer. It was an answer provided in the Q&A referring to dogs or it may have been animals in general (I cannot remember exactly), that they have no memory. I've used the search function but no success and scanned many pages of the Q&A. That particular Q&A also included the information that plants and animals both dream. Need to find as some disagreement has risen in a discussion. Lol. Hoping one of you students knows the location of the info! Thanks in advance! Saalome.  | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2286 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Mac, You may have seen this: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/5446.html#POST14925 Scott | ||
Mac Member Post Number: 26 Registered: 06-2011 |
Thanks Scott, but there's another Q&A which I discovered last week and unfortunately I didn't take note. It did contain in its answer that memory is not a function of dogs or animals, alongside the info of dream ability of animals and plants. I will continue my search! Definitely it was given as an answer. I could ask the question here "do dogs have the use of the faculty of memory?" But the answer is no! Just need to back my up my claim! Thanks again! Mac |
