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    Ramirez Member Post Number: 730 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Rintintin, Those objects might be orbs which are possible to pick up in daylight with the right sort of equipment. If the rover video camera has a strong infra red capability that's what those might be because in daylight it's typical to only obtain small numbers of widely scattered about orbs rather than bright ones or concentrations where many are grouped together due to lack of contrast. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuFBUS0kiSA Not a fleet of flying saucers .... orbs. They are everywhere including space, the upper atmosphere plus other planets. Cheers. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 473 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Ramirez, not that I'm denying orbs, but the nasa tether incident has craft that are over 2 miles wide when measured against the tether? Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 732 Registered: 06-2008 |
Billy asked Semjase about orbs during one of the sightseeing flights .... was he observing small objects close to the spaceship viewing screens or larger objects further away ? He is the only one who knows for sure so maybe that could be a question for the (now bi) monthly Q&A section. Who knows how large they might be in space ? So far here on earth near the ground though it's difficult to estimate exact size sometimes there are pictures of orbs as large as a bus and white lights 150 - 200 foot long careering across the night sky. Think about it ..... 2 mile round spaceships .... that many of them ? What would they all be doing hanging around a length of wire in space ? Aren't the visitors fully occupied abducting humans, mutilating cattle and secretly infiltrating governments ? Cheers. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 474 Registered: 10-2009 |
Yes that would be a good question for Billy. I know, I've seen those orb pictures that are incredibility huge and I definitely do not deny their existence. I think this nasa tether incident was the first video I watched that made me think we are not alone (before the road lead me to Billy). There seems to be at least 4 different type craft. When the Ps and their federation left on Feb. 3, 1996, it was due to a mission they were responsible for. Although the reason given was because of the Giza, I'm not totally convinced that their mission didn't have something to do with stopping this 12 mile electrical grid free floating in space on Feb. 25, 1996. It looks like it's activated as it's all lit up, who knows what the consequences of it since there was a malfunction and it broke away. So this could may well be another incident where the Ps did something to save us and never got any credit for it? But I'm not ruling out the possibility that I'm wrong. Abductions and cattle/horse mutilations are definitely a black ops sport. I'm sure the contact notes say there is no infiltrating of government, but looking at some of those politicians, one can never be sure  Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Rintintin Member Post Number: 19 Registered: 04-2012 |
Hi Ramirez... Interesting video... These orbs act as if they had free will... Are they disembodied humane spirits? What level of evolution have them? | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 733 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Rintintin, Orbs are mentioned in 4 contact reports .... that's all i could find though there might be more. Electomagnetic life forms ..... light beings. They have personalities and intelligence though no idea exactly what that's like but definitely they are not former humans or creatures. Evolution level ?? I think Ptaah knows about that plus what their function is in the "big plan". There was a report stating the P had attempted to communicate with them and enter their dimension .... without success. Cheers. | ||
Baselineplayer Member Post Number: 60 Registered: 09-2007 |
When time is ripe, we will know the truth about Mars. But, that will be when we have the resources to land manned spacecrafts by routine there. Concerning artefacts destroyed by Sirians, mentioned earlier, this kind of practice is well known here on Earth. In many countries, all tools used in serious crimes are to be destroyed by order of court. In UK for example, a house there murders have been committed are normally demolished and totally removed afterwards by orders from court. So, it is nothing strange at all with regards of Sirians destroying artefacts used for crimes. Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards /Baselineplayer | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 138 Registered: 09-2011 |
I can understand destroying an object that might have remnant fluidal forces associated with it. But should that justification apply to archeology? Life | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 250 Registered: 12-2009 |
Michael, My personal short answer is no, and unfortunately in the answers section Billy said complaints have to be directed towards the Sirian government, so it'll be centuries before we are able to voice our opposition. The only solace I can find in the situation is that Sirian law dictates that artifacts have to be removed on a planet that is not populated, so at least that means more extraterrestrial criminals cannot take over (the now non-existent) bases and do anything malicious to us Earth humans. The thing that sucks the most is finding the artifacts would have created great changes here on Earth and the ancient ships would have propelled our space programs. The only other solace I have is contact 251 states that Mars wasn't the only home to artifacts from those genetically modified peoples, artifacts lay awaiting on other planets from their journey to the SOL system from Sirius, so if the Sirians left those other artifacts alone, they could still be waiting to be found by our descendants... Salome Corey OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1482 Registered: 02-2000 |
Cory, The Sirian's could be combing the Galaxy cleaning up other places making it harder for us to fine ET evidence there as well. In my opinion its criminal to erase our past to keep us in our place so to speak. We are the being denied our birthright to make discovery's on our own. My Website | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 252 Registered: 12-2009 |
Norm, I couldn't agree with you more. Salome Corey OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker. | ||
Jacob Moderator Post Number: 925 Registered: 01-2004 |
The Billy Meier case is a wealth of evidence about ET life (photos, metal samples, sounds, our true origin, etc. We don't really 'need' the removed artifacts from Mars or anywhere else, however I can understand the sentiment very well behind the dismay about the removal by the Sirians. The drive behind the human being to explore his solar system is very obvious (think of Curiosity landing on Mars), the Pluto probe 'New Horizons', to name just a few. The Earth human will find its true origin, that is unstoppable. Salome, Jacob Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona! | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 736 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Corey, With this: "The only solace I can find in the situation is that Sirian law dictates that artifacts have to be removed on a planet that is not populated, so at least that means more extraterrestrial criminals cannot take over (the now non-existent) bases and do anything malicious to us Earth humans." Which is the very likely reason the clean up was done because the Sirians are aware the Giza informed certain of the terrestrial black ops - dark forces about the existence of functional bases on Mars which they might consider using as a refuge in case "everything hits the fan" on earth and the "chosen ones" have a place to wait it out while the dust settles then return to take over. Nice plan ..... however now there are no functional bases. Probably they didn't remove or demolish above ground ruins and non functional things some of which might still exist. However i think the Sirian's motives were strategic .... deny earth criminals useful facilities. Those black ops back engineered craft mightn't be exactly cutting edge or capable of long distances though they might be sufficient to visit Mars which is a huge advantage to anyone possessing them. Cheers. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 84 Registered: 05-2012 |
Guys, as much as it would really be "fun" to get these kinds of artifacts ... Consider what would change in your or anybody's life if someone really announced finding these on Mars? With tons of true evidence from Meier, I don't see the world spinning much faster into enlightenment. If these artifacts were really necessary Plejarens would have provided humankind with all you're wishing for. Consider carefully, that with billions of stupefied and mislead people some guru fanatic could actually use such artifact to create whole new cult of an object. Remember a piece of rock that some circle to fulfill their "obligation"? Don't we have enough channelers and other idiots from the past and present, already making it much difficult for the progress? We could actually collectively go to Giza to see some huge ET's artifacts ...and much cheaper than voyage to Mars ; ) Salome | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 253 Registered: 12-2009 |
Ramirez: Good point about the black ops. I was referring to the negative ET's Ptaah warned Billy about in the 463 contact (Sonder Bulletin 44) that could be here in 40, 60, or 80 years time that could be attracted to this planet due to SETI antennae foolishness. "Probably they didn't remove or demolish above ground ruins and non functional things some of which might still exist." I don't know, for an advanced ET race, the Sirians probably specialize in being thorough. When Ptaah said everything was returned to it's natural state I'm assuming he meant it and all the ruins are gone with absolutely no trace left. Besides Billy said in the answers section (October 24,2010) "Natural artefacts only, no human-made structures." which means no more pyramids, cities, ruins, ancient holograph machines, ancient writing and star maps, ancient beamships, nor anything else that would have been interesting. Jacob and Ferbon: I hear what your saying but it still sucks. I asked Billy if future generations will still look for our origins in Sirius with no artifacts left and all he said was (April 24,2011) "In the meantime the problem has been dissolved. The Plejaren have taken contact with the old Sirians." which wasn't the yes or no I was looking for, but it's only 8.5 light years to Sirius so it's logical to think that in the distant future our descendants will make our way back to Sirius, but it probably won't be for 800 years when Billy's information is open information that we will know our true origins come from there. We would still need the technology to break the space time barrier to get to the area(s) the genetically modified peoples came from which puts it further ahead then us just making it 8.5 light years, we would need time to develop that Raum/Zeit Gefüge technology, and have it be known mainstream from Billy's information that is our true origins etc. Salome Corey OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 85 Registered: 05-2012 |
Corey He told you the truth, just get it. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 254 Registered: 12-2009 |
Ferbon, What exactly are you implying that I should just get? Your statement is unclear. Salome Corey OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1483 Registered: 02-2000 |
Everything has been removed. Why are people always trying to alter what Billy says. There's nothing to discover from an ancient civilization now. One day we will maybe get an announcement stating there were bugs & bones or something to that effect that was alive there but that's it. They could have left some ruins there that had no technology. I find it shocking this hasn't upset more people. I don't care that its in the Notes. I wanted future generations to discover these artifacts and have it inspire them into space but now all that has been taken away. I'm sorry but that is manipulating our future And its disturbing especially coming from a Federation of Aliens that claim otherwise. My Website | ||
Getknowledge Member Post Number: 148 Registered: 04-2008 |
To be clear, certain ETs with a long life span can travel for decades long without problems, given then have the technology; not that they can be here 40, 60, 100 years from now... "With certain human life-forms who are capable of space travel, time plays no role because they attain great ages, consequently they can be underway to the Earth 40, 60 or 100 years or more without problems if their technology also permits them to do that." Tien | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 07-2012 |
Yea, i'm gonna have to jump on the band wagon of norm and corey, The first time i read that i was kinda mad. I felt robbed. That makes going to Mars hardly as significant. Yea we not only lost something from the past, but a possible future. From Billy's words it seems as if they've already made a decision or are working one out where they either make themselves know to us at a certain time or making other artifacts discoverable for our history,(past and future). | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 86 Registered: 05-2012 |
Corey, exactly ...why don't you use the same attitude with what you've got from Billy? ..just give yourself time and patience. You can do it! If not, please disregard. No sacrifices needed ; ), just persistence. You've got all you need, just stop looking at it as on the f... road sign. Salome | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 477 Registered: 10-2009 |
It's much more logical that Sirian forces destroyed the bases and all technology on Mars, than to have it fall into the wrong hands (again). Don't ever forget the reason they were destroyed, the overkill bomb set to detonate and kill us all. Maybe we should have left that sharp knife out for the toddler to play with, just in case the next toddler that comes along knows how to use it??? So what if we don't find the bases and the technology? At least we will eventually find human remains there and the genomic sequence will link us to them. And isn't that one thing that mankind needs to learn...that man did not originate on earth? Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 256 Registered: 12-2009 |
Justsayno, This is bigger then missing ruins though. In the future the Sirians were supposed to help us do the final rectification to the aging/aggression gene, and we were supposed to base our government in Sirius. They would have made good allies in the future, now it is unclear if we will even find our origins in Sirius because the prophecy has changed about the artifacts. Salome Corey OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker. |
