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    Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 140 Registered: 09-2011 |
"My religion is simple. My religion is kindness." --Dalai Llama Namaste! Life | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 737 Registered: 06-2008 |
"My religion is simple. My religion is kindness." --Dalai Llama Not all words match deeds and thoughts. Cheers. | ||
Skyrim Member Post Number: 25 Registered: 06-2012 |
Baselineplayer, one reason I believe the West is trying to destabilize Syria is the fact that our media has been continuously beating up about Syria since it began (its the first thing on news every night!), while it hardly mentions the biggest number of deaths going on right now such as in Somalia and other parts of the world too, tells me the West's media must be beating stories up about Syria's situation for a reason. And not only our media but also our politicians too, such as Hilary Clinton and others. The West has also made it clear that its wants to see Syria's Regime go. So no secret there. So these are other reasons why I feel its true that the West IS trying to destabilize Syria. btw, did you watch all those clips through? Regardless of which news service did those stories, I feel there was some truth in them. | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 141 Registered: 09-2011 |
It is true that people posture and bluster far more than they act, and not all words match deeds and thoughts. Perhaps this is why we always warn each other away from New Age beliefs. It can be a falsetto spirituality, built upon beliefs that are not built upon experience. The same could be said of any over-generalization: we can only guess if anybody else's New Age religion is just a shallow, quickly-formed belief system, or if it has some New Age depth behind it. For myself I work to maintain as open and honest a demeanor as possible, this is one of my spiritual disciplines, but I've evolved my position on many things as I have learned and grown and worked things out for myself. This is why, unless I personally know someone, the best I can do is judge their statements at face value. Thankfully, we all change, evolve. Sometimes we even take positions that are polar opposites from what we used to believe, and then we find ourselves forced to either appear in the role of hypocrite, or profess the wrongness of what we previously knew. This is not some falsetto spirituality, this is developing beliefs based on experience. For myself, I try to treat everyone fairly, even when they are different from myself, even when they are not doing the same to me. But this is not a free pass allowing them to conduct themselves criminally without fear of chastisement, not even in the name of righting some perceived wrong. When I see what I think is a rose, I call it a rose, and likewise, when I see something that appears to me to be horrible I call it that as well. I try not to concern myself with who represents what side of a conflict, nor how discussion about the conflict can be twisted to serve the purpose of one side over the other... People are just people, regardless of the wacky identities they carry with them. And for me this is the lifering that we all need to hold on to: people are just people, the world over. The best way we can get everyone to relate to each other peacefully is to adopt a mutually creative social model, especially in this time of overcompetition for limited resources, and the need for population reduction. The hot button issues are the ones which most need assuaging, not reactionary, conflict-producing blustering and posturing. Instead, we need to focus on a creative peace, presenting positive thoughts and words as much on this FIGU board as anywhere else. With practice this will lead to better deeds as well. Life | ||
Colorado_dirk Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 10-2007 |
A couple of things to keep in mind in regard to Israel: The leitmotif (motto) of their spy agency Mossad is 'To wage war by means of deception'. Additionally Iran has a treaty to defend their regional ally Syria in a war situation. Therefore Syria is a backdoor to have a war with Iran. China and Russia have been making economic deals with those two countries about resources (oil, gas, nuclear plants, rare earth minerals etc) meanwhile the US/Israel are actively trying to destabilize everyone else. I find presstv.ir and rt.com quite often informative and reporting more accurately than western media stacked with shills and high ranking ex-military trolls. Goebbels would be envious of our current capabilities to propagandize. What we appear to be witnessing at this point is the US/Israel faction hiring mercenaries, the 'Syrian Rebel' forces to attack the Syrian government to provoke a war. The mainstream news outlets during the last months have already on a few occasions reported on the mercenary forces hired by western apparati. CNN scrubbed one of their stories two days ago to remove a reference to the CIA supplying weaponry to rebel forces. You may have noticed that the US is now cheerleading the CIA asset known as Al Qaida (declassified documents via FOIA prove this as an asset including OBL). This makes sense if you read or watch the book/documentary 'Confessions of an economic hitman' which explains how the US shapes foreign affairs for their full exploitation, making it look like justified actions. Independent media outlets and non-US sponsored or influenced ones have been busy illustrating the connections with foreign support of Syrian insurgent forces. .. meanwhile MSNBCBSABCNN etc are having 'shark week' which kills only 6 people in the US each year. Wow. Talk about weapons of mass distraction... Thankfully, however, the Non-aligned Movement of 116 nations is making strides in putting their policies forward. Of course, you have to search hard to find truthful reporting of this in western media outlets. Edward: I get the proph/pred words still mixed up too.. I know what you meant. Always enjoy your educating posts, please keep it up. Happy weekend to all. Peace. | ||
Rintintin Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 04-2012 |
I don't know if worry about the Third World War or the arrival of Destroyer Planet (Nibiru). What do you think will happen if that planet come? Some sources claim that it will pass on August 17, 2012. I don't know if I should move out of South Florida. What do you think?... VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAjp3eNUpXY&feature=related | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1484 Registered: 02-2000 |
Rin, I moved out of S. Florida 5 years ago. Too many Hurricane hits on my house. A lost roof etc. Plus the future down there isn't looking very good. My Website | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2503 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Calorado_dirk.... I have similar thoughts as what you posted. As the Plejarans/Billy once mention: it is all Orchestrated in Langley, Virginia (CIA HQ). Have a nice week... Edward. | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 782 Registered: 10-2008 |
The Destroyer planet was averted from it's previous path , which should put the nasty molten ball of goo on a less harmful path in relation to us , and at a later date . | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 784 Registered: 10-2008 |
The Destroyer planet was averted from it's previous path , which should put the nasty molten ball of goo on a less harmful path in relation to us , and at a later date . On another note , I urge anyone who has not read Michaelhelfert's Post Number: 141 . It's about as clear as needs to be concerning our posture on the forum as well as everyone's posture concerning differing beliefs ,for the future of our world . | ||
Rintintin Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 04-2012 |
According to some sources the arrival window will be between 08/17/2012 and 09/26/2012... | ||
Creational Member Post Number: 417 Registered: 09-2008 |
Dear Moderators, I thought this is appropriate here since it is written for avoidance of WWIII. Feel free to move it in any section you prefer. Intuitively, I have never liked revolutions, demonstrations, riots, rallies and the like. I remember during my college years, in spite of the fact that I disagreed with Shah of Iran on a lot of issues; I mistrusted and even avoided Iranian students abroad organizing what seemed to me an immature movement and demonstrations fuelling the fire prior to the Iranian Revolution of 1977. Turned out, I was correct about the immaturity and hidden danger of these self-acclaimed enlightened ones as history had proved. Fast forward to these volatile and uncertain times worldwide, we have witnessed what is known as “The Arab Spring” while a more proper word should really be; “The World Spring”, since we are witnessing people “spring” in every corner on this planet including here in states. Obviously, this sort of unrest occurs during difficult times by ordinary people affected directly by these crises. However, such massive social volatility and unrest has always been backed up and even fueled by certain opportunistic factions that have been socio-psychologically hushed during prosperous periods of any government. While in their exile from the world public stage, these radical factions were patiently planning and waiting for an opportunity to help these unrests become a hazardously spiral leap. If you don’t believe me, ask any Iranian that have gone through such period during the above mentioned revolution that created a false euphoric sense of freedom only to be followed by the most suppressive regime in the recent history of that country. Tea Party movement to me, is reminiscence to that kind of extreme faction and these times is similar to that period in history that has made life miserable for the majority of Iranians ever since; needless to remind everyone that the entire world is still dealing with their revolutionary and radical ways. Let’s learn from the history and prevent it from happening again while we still can. The only logical alternative is to re-elect President Obama and replacing the House Tea Party leaders with moderate representatives. Let us evolve not by revolutionary and radical means manifested by anger without logic, but by silently seeking and unmasking the truth trough peace, love, wisdom, reason and harmony. We could even call it “The Silent Revolution of The Truth”. Salome with love Zhila, Thank you Billy. | ||
Rintintin Member Post Number: 26 Registered: 04-2012 |
If you replace the House Tea Party leaders with "moderate representatives" without the consent of the people, then there is no democracy. The only problem here is that both parties are controlled by a secret mafia. That explains why Ron Paul was forced to retire wile he still was a favorite. The Tea Party is not under the control of that MAFIA because it comes from the american people, is why it is listed by the liberal mass media as "radical" | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 325 Registered: 01-2009 |
Salome all I just want to share my thoughts with you The earth human repeatedly makes the same mistake of voting in the same type of human being into power. One exception in my view is Obama who truly wants peace. He has defied Israel in their attempts to bring America into a war against Iran and has truly tried to bring peace in Iraq. The earth human always thinks they need a leader who promises better education for their children, better health care and more jobs. However this is something that is rarely achievable due to many factors with the big factor of overpopulation. The earth human needs to start thinking about their leaders and instead of letting their religious views, their racial views and their personal interest get in the way of their decision to vote the earth human should look at other things. For example what are the true motives of the person wanting power, what has past experience taught about voting persons into power and also the person themselves. I mean this as is the person true and genuine and thinking toward peace and betterness for the country and the world. We live on a planet divided by countries and borders. However what each country does, respectively their leaders and their decisions, affects other countries which intern bounces back. So regarding America who for a long time now has, through pressures from sub groups and also past leaders, wanted world military and economic power a true peaceful leader is needed. Mitt Romney has recently been in Israel and is pro war with Iran. Something Israel leaders want also. So do the thinking and the cause and effect and one could come to the conclusion that if Mitt Romney is elected, or if the voting is rigged like Bush Jr was 2 times, then the likelihood of a war with Iran is highly possible. This war as Billy has said will involve Russia and China against Israel and the west. It’s all down to the American people to vote wisely. A vote for a future possible war or a future possible peace. Salome Stephen www.ufofacts.me.uk - www.thecircleforhumanity.net | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 746 Registered: 06-2008 |
If you watch Obama's recent 40 minute speech something is noticeable ...... when he declares the end of Osama Bin Laden that part attracts the loudest and longest applause and cheering from the audience who apparently are fond of hearing news related to violence. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd8MFmUDbg4 What you hear from elected and those hoping to be elected are words but what exactly is their past track record on delivering the promises of past words ? However with this coming election the choice is not really a choice unless you want this character in the white house ..... http://www.landoverbaptist.org/2011/october/romney.html Did Obama really get Osama or was that another charade and pantomine for the media ...... where's the body ? With Saddam .... they produced a body, with Gaddafi .... a body, with OB Laden who the American's claim to have captured .... where's the body ? How many bodies would Mitt Rommney's administration produce ? Cheers. | ||
Hawaiian Member Post Number: 94 Registered: 05-2011 |
Ramirez, Even Russia's leader Putin says he'll rather deal with Obama saying he is "honest", but with Mitt R as president, the current nuclear agreements in Europe will take a more aggressive tone. Now, the Jewish leader Benjamine N. is more favorable to Mitt R as they are close personal friends who share the same "agenda" as that rogue state, speaks volumes on what direction US policy will be determined, besides even the Plejarens say Mitt R is a psychopath who would think of nothing while walking over dead human bodies. Violence only brings more violence, even in cases of self defence until all sides agree to solve their differences in a humane way, but that will not happen until the religious beliefs are tossed aside, never to be mentioned or utilized again. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 274 Registered: 12-2009 |
Mikhail Gorbachev's thoughts on disarmament talks/Reykjavik 25 years later: http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/a-farewell-to-nuclear-arms He brings up some good points. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Jedaiah New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 09-2012 |
The entire system (governmental) is founded upon corruption and power mongering. Deepening in religious roots itself, they do indeed act like their own forms of such. Revolution (regardless of silent or terror-infused) is inevitable if we are to evolve. The question is which one would truly be more effective in engaging the civilization of this planet to a further point of realization? | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 160 Registered: 09-2011 |
Thanks for your statement, Jedaiah. You must have been organizing your thoughts to be able to state them so succinctly. Not that I know everything, but here is how I see it. The entire governmental system is founded on principles, and mankind has followed these principles to varying degrees over time with the changing of the political winds. We currently have a constitutional government, which is a government with a foundational statement to which everyone can supposedly agree and abide, and all of our government is justified by this statement. The US Constitution starts with 'We the People' for a reason. This is why if a governmental action is found to be unconstitutional, then it has no basis in our body of law. Although corruption and power mongering have ever been present in the hearts of men, our government's foundation was at its original formation remarkably free of this. As an aside, over the centuries many people have tried to rewrite the Constitution, some as an exercise (you might try this if you are critical of it), some with hopeful intent that their new statement would be adopted by everyone, however our original Constitution has proven resilient. For guidance with this exercise, another idealistic statement that also has foundational applications is the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The 'religious roots' of the government come from some people's attempts to reinterpret what was actually established 200 years ago to fit their own beliefs. But the rare mention of God in our government is deliberately broad enough to fit almost any definition, and does not easily lend itself to exclusive religious interpretations. For instance, we cannot rightly say that 'God' only refers such concepts as a higher power, as so many popular preachers like to proudly assert, or a universal meme, or some fundamental mathematical constant or physical principle, or even a cat stuck in a tree. The definition of 'God' is whatever we make of it. This is a bit of officially supported spirituality that I can live with, as long as it remains ambiguous. The form of government that we have is based upon the collective agreements of its constituents. People who only think of creative peace and lawful prosperity form governments of a different nature than people who think of corruption and power mongering. Our government has thus far been able to withstand the breadth of thinking of its citizenry, however this is changing with the influx of immigrants, with the deliberate cultural influence of special interest groups (for example, Judaism), with the effects of over-competition for life's basic necessities, with the increasing dichotomy of wealthy people and poor, with the increasingly common perception that the United States is not the haven of fairness that it is advertised to be, et cetera. 'We the People' will use whatever tools are necessary to correct this evolutionary misstep, whther through the egal framework we have built or, when that no longer functions as it should, through violent protests and finally revolution. As long as there is disagreement over what form of government our society should have and what its ideals are, as long as we cannot agree to a single Constitution, we will not be able to sustain a single government. The revolution that so many people hope for is invariably one of the evolution of mankind's collective perceptions, values, and priorities. This evolution is as inevitable as life itself, and for us the question is how much violence we will find as we evolve. Hopefully, as we live we evolve into a more common awareness of an easy and natural universal creativity, which leads to a peacefully creative society. All I can say for certain that this evolution must occur, and will occur, no matter how unwillingly (with violence) or willingly (easily, peacefully) it does so. We have out ourselves into a position where we simply do not have a choice. Life | ||
Jedaiah New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 09-2012 |
That was well said Michael. Your last line certainly corresponds to the logical conclusion I have repeatedly ran into, time and time again. As such, one would hope to avoid these acts dealing with a forceful hand. The reality and depth of the human situation here on Earth is not limited to America or any of the major countries, perse. Infact, as you may all be aware, it is a global concern. Hence the governmental finger I pointed was a general fat-finger at every single government worldwide. While I do not by any means encourage the act of war and or means to forcibly spread truth (in wisdom and true love), the variables consistently lead back to the point: (That I would rather use a metaphor) "Holding hands and singing songs about love and peace around the campfire in the middle of nowhere isn't going to help." As a matter of fact, if one is (within their own power) able to carry out their purpose in fulfillment to the overall mission (improvement of mankind) then it must be done in a crucially smart and leading manner. With this in mind, one must utilize his or her talents (natural giftings etc) or abilities in their own possible way with a benevolent manner towards a common goal that we, are (hopefully) all here to promote. The goal of improvement to our (terrestrial) human race and a hopeful progression of evolution. Granted this can be done in multiple forms and can range from the smallest act of a simple word of encouragement to the groundbreaking empowerment of media and or works relating to influential themes to open more people's eyes to the truth. If a difference is to be made (whether you choose to perceive this as the 'revolution' or whatever) then it would have to be done wisely and with respect to a humanitarian ideal. Snowballs rolling down the hill will eventually turn into an avalanche. | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 117 Registered: 01-2011 |
Also Obama doesn't mention terror,war,and so on all the time like Bush did. All I ever heard from Bush was war mongering and using 911 as an excuse to create further "terror" as he used those words in almost every speech I've ever heard from him. I registered to vote for the first time in my life just to vote against Bush and his insainity. Salome Derrick | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 278 Registered: 12-2009 |
Yeah me too bad Bush cheated! Derrick your vote is going to be needed this time too. If Romney is elected he will be just as bad as Bush, if not worse. Romney has that whole "God wants me to go to war" mentality that Bush did. He already said if elected, his first stop would be to go to Israel and deal with the "Iran issue", which would mean war with Iran. He also wants war with Syria. These links prove Romney is in bed with former Bush advisors (15 out of 22), 6 of them being former Project for a New American Century people that are responsible for Bush and Cheney, and prove what Billy said in "As the time fufills" about people making money off of war: http://www.policymic.com/articles/3662/warning-mitt-romney-s-advisers-are-george-bush-neocons-calling-for-war-with-iran http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/28/1107482/-The-Die-is-Cut-Romney-PNAC-and-the-Billionaires As if the pending war happening isn't bad enough, Romney and Ryan plan on destroying Medicare (voucher system) and phase out the Environmental Protection Agency. The EPA under Obama has been really hard on coal fired plants which is good, and Obama wants to put greenhouse gas emmissions limits on coal fired plants in his second term if reelected which is also good. Obama sparsely lets oil companies drill offshore the US, Mitt would let them have free reign under the guise of "energy independence" (electric cars anyone?). Barack is ahead in all the polls, especially in some key battleground states. To get on a path to 270, he needs good debate performances to get some bounce in some of the closer areas, and off course the votes come election day! It's a good thing Barack does well with women voters, he may pull of a win in some battleground states off of the women and young people votes alone. I usually don't get involved with politics, but I have to prevent another Bush from getting elected now and in the future. If Romney does get elected it will prove the earth human needs to elect better leaders, and in an essence prove the American people chose the upcoming wars by choosing leader(s) that will take them down that false path. Everything in the population of the US is so polarized these days, I can see Billy's warnings about civil war in the US coming true. Those that want war with other nations, oil and gas, discrimination and racism, religious neo cons against those that want peace, renewable energy, and not to be the world police and I'm sure money will be involved too. Those that make money off the military industrial complex against those that don't. If the US was a true democracy we wouldn't outspend the rest of the world COMBINED with our military budgets, we would have our renewable energy like so much of the people themselves want, I saw a car yesterday with an National Rifle Assc. bumper sticker, a "pray the vote away" bumper sticker, and a Romney for President bumper sticker and I said "yep, that about sums it up". Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 07-2012 |
That's our Federal Reserve hard at work,one of the most corrupt entities on the face of the planet.Every time we go to war the fed lends money to the country to fund our war efforts, then makes money by charging interest back to the federal govt. An entity that has no oversight by anyone in our govt,scary! Plus another not surprising piece of information, George W Bush's grandfather was one of the originators of the federal reserve, himself and i think 6 or 7 other very powerful,extremely rich people at the time put on costumes and met on some island to form the Fed in secret back in the day. I think if a civil war breaks out in America it will most likely be because the poor and the people constantly taken advantage of by the rich and powerful will just start to revolt and turn on all the oppressors,taking back whatever they can get,the disparity between the elite and others will reach a tipping point, which is usually the way it goes throughout history,then the government will retaliate with military force,how thoughtful. |
