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Blake_p
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 08:31 am: | 
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Thanks for the reference; I've read through the contacts multiple times,it's just easy to forget with the amount of info,everything that was talked about.So i'll get a quick refresher on that particular incident. Yea i agree with Davidmg, shipping people off to another planet is basically a temporary solution to a permanent problem. While a logical solution,in our particular case,on this planet, when we finally endeavor to do good,and truly want to be a thoughtful,loving,helpful peaceful race of human beings is when the majority of us will be to strong for the evil and selfish machinations of the small in in conscience. When and where those events by the few who wish to oppress and enslave others for their own gain will truly be unacceptable and a thing of the past. But for now it is the opposite,how unfortunate! I think the saddest thing is that most people would like it to be that way,but instead they would rather be subjugated by the few,instead of uniting the majority,simply because their scared to change things,and because lots of people feel comfortable in their misery. Pretty twisted. |
Hawaiian
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Post Number: 100
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 04:18 pm: |
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http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/10742.html
Post # 1913 by moderator Scott, Jan 23 2010
1. Basically, the so-called death agony is a peaceful, harmonious state, a transition process from life to death. People who are watching a person die (during the death/last agony bystanders often misunderstand the heavy breathing and twitching etc. as fear; but it is just a ceasing of the body’s functions).
2. Of course there are people who fear death or who have led a life full of hatred and greed etc., and if death nears they cling to life and suffer horribly (psyche) etc. This can be led back to the fact that their conscience which they have suppressed so long surfaces at last and starts to rebel.
3. It goes without saying that dying through an execution is no peacful occurrence, and dying instantly through an accident prevents a peacful transition process.
The time of death is determined by creational = natural laws, i.e. by the functioning or rather malfunctioning and wasting away of our physical body, through the aging process or by a disease etc.
I have copied a response from BEAM regarding the last moments during death and wanted to relate a very similar experience of such magnitude that it does relate logically if applied those who engage in such malevolent behaviors that circumvent the evolutionary progress of others that circumvent the evolutionary progress of others like in the case of the Giza Intelligences, who even in their last days on that desolate prison planet, got together and used their spiritual power to merge with their Brazilian allies on Earth and tried to kill Billy with some stolen UFO utilizing a beam weapon that almost succeeded.
These Gizas have all passed on and have not learned to change their ways while in material form and are now a problem for the Arahat Athersata to determine if they again are afforded another incarnation to continue down the path that they have always “endeavored on” to be a risk to others or hopefully they begin to finally learn to co-exist in harmony with others remains to be addressed, since a new personality is isolated from its previous past personalities when incarnation takes place.
That being said, I can personally vouch for what Billy says that during the moment of death it can be the most negative depressive moments one can ever experience on how desperate it is to cling to life knowing it will be forever extinguished by some executioner about to pull that trigger from a handgun placed next to your head. All that was ever done and those unfinished projects or events have all taken a high priority listing that you wished to have a second chance to address, all those regrets are compressed into a brief moment before that anticipated end.
The Gizas and others who prey on others, those who were human parasites that existed at the expense of others have experienced the same or even worse circumstances described above, but unfortunately have not carried such “negative” experiences into their current life in order to bring about the necessary balance for both themselves and others they negatively influenced as well, THEY ARE ALL DEAD. I have experienced such an event and posted it on FIGU for your review and can tell you it will have a very profound effect on your prospective in life.
Therefore, using such desperate measures on negative personalities in order to give them the necessary experiences which they still will have the free will to determine their evolutionary path, but now have been given the appropriate “medicine” to help cure their sickness in this life not the ether. It can be applied through their dreaming state where sometimes reality and the ether are often very hard to differentiate. I have witness a number of cases where people have learned and become much better persons after such events.
The laws of creation has been altered before as in the case of Nokodemjion when the A.A. and Petale both addressed the problem of incarnating a pure spiritual form into a material being, but this measure, should it be implemented, can be done by the Plejarens with the advice of the High Council and other pure spiritual ones. |
Scott
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Post Number: 2319
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, October 08, 2012 - 10:36 am: |
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Please let's back to the topic heading |
Skyrim
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Post Number: 33
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Monday, October 08, 2012 - 03:42 pm: |
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I have a question please. If the prophecies fulfill themselves and World War 3 happens, would this mean that Apophis will hit the Earth because I don't see how we could get our act together to deflect it after the death and destruction of WW3?
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Ferbon
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Post Number: 110
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 04:50 am: |
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Skyrim
If you calculate it we have about 16 years till Apophis and must start deflecting it as soon as it is within range. In NASA's report they stated they will start thinking about it in 8 years with 8 still to go. This means you don't have to worry about Apophis vs. WW3 for another 8 years because there is nothing we can do till then anyway. Also, there is not one contact report or prophecy that places these two events together, indeed not even one right after another.
Salome |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 07:16 am: |
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Just a personal opinion but i don't think that WW3 will be until at least a decade after Apophis,and really probably more,i was thinking probably more like 2040's or 50's.My reasoning behind that would be in the Henoch prophecies we still have three more Popes to go before the beginning of the warnings,also one of the biggest reasons for the third world fire is the fight over natural resources in areas that are covered in ice,and i've read more than a couple of articles that point to 2050 as being round the time that much of the ice cover would have melted and an extreme rising of the oceans water levels would be.And another note on the popes,i can't recall if it meant or it said that there were three popes,this one plus two more,or three more after this one now. so..Most of us will either be gone by then or in very old age by then,in which,i feel terrible for our kids and even our kids children who bear the brunt of the monstrosities that will take place. But don't worry we will have Apophis to look forward to if our know it all scientists don't change their opinion of the likelyhood of it's impact,the San Francisco earthquake,more overpopulation,and massive migrations of peoples that live in places by coastal areas,which is about half of the worlds population. A warming thought. |
Thomas
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Post Number: 87
Registered: 08-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 11:25 am: |
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> The current pope is 2nd to the last actually :-) |
Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 329
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 02:49 pm: |
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Salome
That is how I understand it. One more pope then good by Vatican, and not too soon I would like to add
www.ufofacts.me.uk - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Skyrim
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 08:46 pm: |
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Hi Ferbon,
Yes that sounds logical. If these two events are not connected together anywhere in the contact notes, then it probably means one won't affect the other. Is this the correct understanding?
phil |
Ferbon
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Post Number: 111
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 10:36 pm: |
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To be even more precise "good by Vatican" seems to be marked as - during pontificate of Petrus Romanus - the last pope - successor of current one. Not sure if that's because of his actions, war or seismic/volcanic activities explained - for example - by passing asteroid. No worries though - there will be new place chosen for the holy see but most likely without its own independent territory thus tradition of pontiffs will have to be changed to more administrative rather than symbolic (my own assumption). As for over 1 billion Catholics - there will have to be someone new to tell them what to think. If you're sentimental - St. Peter's cathedral is still interesting place to visit with all the sculptures, paintings and archives.
Salome |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 07:12 pm: |
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My bad on the mis-information on the number of popes,for some reason i was fixated on the number three,of popes,and i had just read back through the Henoch Prophecies when Michael H had it on some of his recent blog posts,thanks for the correction. |
Eric
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 04:44 pm: |
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Don't you feel relieved by the re-election of Obama? There are good chances to definitely avoid WW3 now |
Rintintin
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 04-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 08:04 am: |
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In my case I not feel relieved by Obama's re-election.
Less than 12 hours after being reelected, Obama began to plot against the Second Amendment of the Constitution. Obama and Hilary Clinton began to speak to the UN about the Small Arms Treaty to nullify the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution through international laws.
The mass media keeps his mouth shut to the American public to keep this secret.
Do you know some animal of the creation that disarms another for love? Disarmament is against evolution and creational laws, because this action undermines the survival capability of the peoples.
Always disarmament is accompanied with the disgrace of, not only animals, but people too!
List of disarmed peoples in history who were slaughtered by their own GOVERNMENT:
Russia: 33 million deaths 1917-1945
China: 60 million deaths
Armenia: 1.5 million death 1915-1918
Cuba: 10000 death in square fires
These people did not have the opportunity to defend themselves from the great dictators who killed all them...
NOBODY APPRECIATES WATH THEY HAVE UNTIL HE LOSE IT... |
Ferbon
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Post Number: 131
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 07:08 pm: |
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Rintintin
Your words are unfortunately true.
There are examples in animal kingdom where some species of ants adapted to live inside plants and even be immune to juices produced by those plants which otherwise dissolve all other insects trapped in them. These ants feed on remains of the trapped,dissolving insects and, in return, defend the plant.
So to just vaguely refer to your point: if someone proposes disarmament, he could be immune to the consequences and possibly could also work with someone who in turn catches a bigger fish to save "smart ants" any hunting efforts.
Salome |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 33
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 10:14 am: |
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Well,one, i would love to know where you are reading that Obama is trying through international means to disarm the american people.Two,there are more privately owned guns in america than there are people,so how do you suppose that this could even remotely take place,International law does not dictate domestic policy,(not in this case anyway)the NRA would never let that fly,and would spend millions upon millions to not let that happen,plus not to mention the right would literally loose their minds even more than they have already. If this were really true Fox news would spend 24 hrs a day reporting on this so to somehow get cause for Obama to be impeached for violating the constitution. How do you suppose that people would just hand over their guns? I would think that would be the last thing being just re-elected that he would want to stir up a hornets nest like that with the american people. Sounds pretty illogical considering all the problems he still has to face right now. |
Rintintin
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Post Number: 33
Registered: 04-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 04:24 pm: |
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In this last year I get some alert messages from "National Association for Gun Rights" signed by Rand Paul...
The reality is that there have been talks behind the American peoples at the UN to slowly strangle the 2nd Amendment.
They want to ban the sale of ammunition to force the American people to buy ammunition in exchange for entering in an international registry for gun control, managed by UN.
Needless to say, the UN international dictators are not subject to free elections by US peoples or peoples from any other country.
You can bet the UN is working to FORCE the U.S. to implement every single one of these anti-gun policies:
*** Enact tougher licensing requirements, making law-abiding Americans cut through even more bureaucratic red tape just to own a firearm legally;
*** CONFISCATE and DESTROY ALL "unauthorized" civilian firearms (all firearms owned by the government are excluded, of course);
*** BAN the trade, sale and private ownership of ALL semi-automatic weapons;
*** Create an INTERNATIONAL gun registry, setting the stage for full-scale gun CONFISCATION.
I'm sure I don't have to tell you that If they achieve this it will be the end of freedom of USA. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 775
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 05:21 pm: |
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Hi Blake_p
"Fox news would spend 24 hrs a day reporting on this so to somehow get cause for Obama to be impeached for violating the constitution."
That's interesting ..... why aren't the media reporting that Obama right now and past presidents before him are in violation and breach of the constitution by allowing the federal reserve to issue United States currency instead of the treasury ?
He swore an oath to uphold the constitution when elected .....
Cheers.
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Edward
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Post Number: 2569
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 - 02:09 am: |
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Hi Rintintin...
Interesting summary.
But, I would not be sure about the 'bodycount', though.
Western News and information articles have a way of making the bodycounts
MORE....than they usually are.[Always being influenced by CIA, or whatever
government body, or secret intells, etc...]
Plejarans, mentioned in the past, that the West, specially US, have a way of
adding....MORE zeros "0's" than the case really is.
During the Vietnam war...it was said that some 23000 people were killed (in
Neutral neighborhood counties: can you imagine...?) 'accidentally' by US
bombings, but the Plejarans said it was more 230,000! So, the bodycounts were
'consciously' being altered, downward. And, the US conducted SERVERAL of such
air bombings at the time. And, gave false counts.
So, if the Russians killed 33,000,000...it could have just ben 3,000,000 or
perhaps even LESS! Like-wise, with the other mentioned numbers on your list.
So, the Plejarans have a much precise way of body counting through Bio-energy
registration technology. Nothing, can beat that....on Earth.
Edward. |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 198
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 - 06:41 am: |
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Regarding the scare-mongering over Obama's push to make automatic-fire arms illegal: this has been so silly I had thought to just let it go - but it dangles here and I know just how ridiculously irrational this fear is. So tell me this: why do we all need the right to bear fully-automatic weapons in a time of peace? They are not very accurate, and the amount of noise and lead being fired off into the environment increases only that much more. All of them are built and used just to kill large numbers of people, and that's it. Why would we want that being readily available in our general population? As for losing the Second Amendment to the Constitution - we are not. Let's be realistic: I have guns, you have guns, he has guns, she has guns, we all have guns, who hoo! We are not gonna lose the right to bear arms when we merely control some of the arms specifically designed and used to kill large amounts of people.
To reframe it another way, how often do you go dear-hunting with a howitzer? Anyone wanna tell me why? Is it because the collateral damage from shelling a deer would be extensive, or is because howitzer ownership is strictly regulated? Knowing some people the way I do, it's because of the latter. I feel fortunate to be able to walk around in the woods in deer season (having to wearing orange), knowing that I won't come under shelling by a 240mm howitzer from miles away because someone thinks I might be a deer. That scenario is silly isn't it? Well, so is allowing fully automatic weapons to be collected for use by people in the US. Scare-monger all you want, but that's what it comes down to.
This really has nothing to do with the Second Amendment. It's just a temper tantrum.
Life
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 - 07:32 am: |
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Ramirez; I agree with you,i've said many times on here that the C.I.A is the most corrupt military entity in the country,maybe the world,and so has Billy and the P's,but the Federal Reserve is the most corrupt and ridiculously run amok financial entity in the country,maybe the world.People should really read about how the fed was created and how it runs, its scary. But i here this all the time that its Obama's fault for everything going on but He's one man,the figurehead,but thats why we have checks and balances in our gov't,so one person doesn't have the kind of power to do whatever even if it's the right thing.Everyone expects the impossible from him, has nobody been paying attention to the largest political oppositional force against one president maybe in history. I'm surprised he been able to get anything done. And bout the firearms collection,that's something that will never happen. |
Verlanis
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 - 07:24 pm: |
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Obama seems to be moving right along with a good plan so far. The relieving of a few jackoffs in the cabinet has already made me smile tremendously. I still do not like him, but I'm still very surprised in the good way.
Michaelfelhart, Thanks for that wonderful logic on full-auto weapons. It was comical and well thought.
Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key.
I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored. --Jack W.
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 801
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 - 11:57 pm: |
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I think that 'The Onion' has been elected , actually , as the model for all the gossip politic . I have seen some outrageously fabricated lies spread in a desperate attempt to defame the President and to start the howling against him .
( The Onion is an American parody newspaper in which you can rely on everything to be false , and sometimes very funny .) |
Hunter
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Post Number: 369
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 11:04 am: |
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To Michaelhelfert:
Obama is not pushing to make automatic weapons illegal - those are already illegal and have been for decades. Some Democrats in Congress are pushing to make semi-automatic weapons illegal - which is simply "feel good" legislation and will not have an impact on crime. The liberals are the ones using fear-mongering to try and make this happen.
As for your question "To reframe it another way, how often do you go dear-hunting with a howitzer?" We don't need such weapons to hunt, we need them for self-defense and protection against criminals, and potential the most dangerous criminals - those in government.
Take Switzerland for example - almost every able-bodied man owns an automatic weapon. This is for national defense. If the prophecies about World War 3 should come to pass and America is invaded, I would much rather have a semi-automatic weapon to defend myself with rather than a hunting rifle.
Again, automatic weapons are plentiful in Switzerland, yet there is a very low crime rate. Criminals are far less likely to invade someone's home if they know that they are well-armed. This is simple logic. Criminals seek easy, defenseless targets as a general rule.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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