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Johnboy
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Post Number: 109
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Near Earth Asteroids and potentially hazardous asteroids are being tracked. On this link, the chart clearly indicates a redder line for the objects that are going to be nearest the earth. The site is http://spaceweather.com/ and the link for each object will lead to the JPL Small-Database browser.

On February 15, 2013, object 2012 DA14 will get very close (.09 LD which is .09 x 384,401km and means the object will miss the earth by 34,596 km)...hence the redder line on the chart.

Johnboy
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 229
Registered: 09-2011
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

According to the Meier material, are there any vulcanoid asteroids in this solar system?
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Earthling
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Post Number: 673
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oops, NASA updates and increases the odds of Apophis striking the earth in 2029

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news146.html
Salome,
Bruce
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 238
Registered: 09-2011
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oops
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 504
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I find it hilarious that NASA cannot predict the exact date to the day that any meteor will strike earth, but is able to tell us that Apophis will strike the earth on April 13, 2029...proof that they've been reading the Meier material.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 07-2012
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Earthling,

Thats good news at least they're starting to pull their heads out and move in the right direction.I posted sometime either early last year or late in 11' that N.A.S.A. quoted in the Discovery magazine that their official odds of Apophis hitting Earth was 1 in 233,000,rediculous.

On another note, i hope this doesn't detour the conversation, but there's not really an exact thread to place this, I was reading Discovery or another scientific publication last week where they had a list of the 100 most important discoveries of the year,and about 15 in i noticed that they announced that they had found a planet orbiting around Alpha Centauri B, this one specifically was to close to the star to hold life but they think there are more located there. I didnt see in the contact notes where exactly Akart was,meaning if it orbited Alpha Centauri a or b,so i was curious if anyone knew or saw it written somewhere? It finished by saying that they were turning the James Webb Telescope towards A.C to hopefully evaluate any other planets that were there and finally use closer stars to begin to decipher a way to break down a planets atmosphere obviously to see if a planet is habitable. At least they're finally looking in the right place! Any thoughts or other info on that?
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Earthling
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Post Number: 674
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From the latest CR - the 544th Contact Report from Sept 1, 2012

http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/sonder-bulletin/2013/nr-71/544-kontakt

Billy. Dazu dann auch gleich die Frage in bezug auf den prophetisch angekündeten Roten Meteor: Kommt dieser auch aus der Oortschen Wolke?

Ptaah. Das ist tatsächlich richtig, und wenn sich nicht etwas Besonderes ergibt, dass sich seine Bahn durch irgendwelche unerwartet in Erscheinung tretende Faktoren andert oder dass sie durch die Erdenmenschen geändert wird, dann wird sich ergeben, dass sich die Prophezeiungen erfollen.

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Roughly translated as follows:

Billy . Additionally, then also the question with regard to the Red Meteor prophetically announced earlier: this also comes out of the Oort cloud?

Ptaah. That is in fact correct, and if something special does not come forth that its orbit will change through any unexpected-appearing factors or that it is modified by the earth humans, then it will come about that the prophecies fulfill themselves.
Salome,
Bruce
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Ferbon
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Post Number: 202
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Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

At least NASA updated the size of the asteroid. Some time ago it was "only" 250-meter.

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Justsayno
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Post Number: 507
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2013/01/09/sci-adophis-asteroid.html

Crazy that this just happened 4 days ago and only heard a short clip about it.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 143
Registered: 04-2011
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Aussie lame stream media is talking about apophis of late, they always say it not going to hit and if it was we have plenty of time, i think the scientists think they have until 2036 to decide but they need to nuke it before it passes the keyhole dont they?

When the usa melts down in 2020 the Russians might save the day, NASA is in denial.

Salome
ilovebilly
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, January 21, 2013 - 02:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi ilovebilly...


Yes, that was my thought, also!

China and Russia, have both priorities to got to the Moon and Beyond. Thus,
they could still....take us: to places no man has ever gone before!

But, we still have to keep in mind: IF, NO other World Wars manifest, to add!

So, it is up to them....


Edward.
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Dan_c
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Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2013 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder if this little meteor they got this week might not be to help gently wake them up to the reality of these things so that they'll do something about it. seems to be such a perfect hit. Nobody killed, miled injuries and lots of them, excellent media attention. This will be remembered for sure.
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Cpl
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can only concur, Dan. What better reminder could one possibly have to get out there and stop Apophis.
Chris

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Cpl
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Post Number: 653
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Correction: not stop but deflect Apophis.
Chris

Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, February 25, 2013 - 02:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Dan and Chris....


Yes, that is such a good example!

Quite a 'Wake-up Call!'


"Expect the unexpected", as the saying goes....


Edward.
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Johnboy
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Post Number: 111
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Posted on Monday, February 25, 2013 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have observed NASA reports regarding Apophis. They are downplaying the impact potential based on Apophis' existing orbital track. However, the orbit diagrams seem to miss the effects of the planet Venus in the months of March and April 2016. Each of those months show Apophis to get perilously close to Venus. The gravity of Venus could be just enough to alter the orbit and put Earth back into the asteroids path for a possible impact as the Plajaren warned for 2029. One can observe the future orbits of Apophis, and the inner sol system on this JPL link. Just use the fast forward button and pause it when it gets to March and April, 2016 to see for yourself.

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2004+MN4&orb=1

Johnboy
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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 351
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2013 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome

Perhaps a couple of questions regarding the astroid that hit in Russia.

1, Why was it not detected by earth humans and their technology for doing just this, detecting inbound threats from space?

2, If this astroid was detected then why was the warning never given? Perhaps not to cause panic but what about the possible un-needed intentional loss of life? With technology that is supposed to plot trajectories is it not possible that the area could of been evacuated in advance?

Salome
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Justsayno
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Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Stephen, the same thing happened here with a meteor on Nov. 20, 2008 (you can check out youtube video from a police cam) and by sheer luck I saw it with my own eyes as did my hubby who was working 75 miles south of here. There were no warnings but I am not surprised because of previous non warnings like when the tornado which was supposed to hit a village I lived in in 2000. The police were told to hold back to go to our impending disaster (instead of going to Pine Lake where it had touched down and there was loss of life) and they had 3 minutes to warn us and never did. Thankfully a cold front came from the south and pushed it off to the north and it touched down twice but did hardly any damage. Sorry I digress and am sorry to say the impending disaster warning system they never had in place has never been updated.
The meteor I saw here exploded. It didn't cause one window to break. The one in Russia, I have my doubts that it exploded. Especially after my neighbour was telling me that she had watched the weather channel and the announcer was having a rant about how NASA wanted to attach sails to a meteor and put it into orbit around the earth so they could study it. And his rant ended with saying that NASA never looked too far ahead to the disasters that could occur if they did that. So my question is did they manage to do it? The meteor in Russia was going from east to west and the one over north american was going south to north. What are the chances of having two asteroids on the same day going in different directions? I re:read some of the incidences of attempted assasination of Billy and two of them strongly resemble what happened in Russia.
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Michaelhelfert
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Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As an addendum to the politically incorrect, taboo subjects that we cannot talk about on this forum, apparently it has now become illegal to report on asteroids that are heading towards the Earth.

http://www.space.com/6829-military-hush-incoming-space-rocks-classified.html
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Jonzie
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This astroid was actually seen and predicted eleven months before it came. I am looking for the original video I saw but here is another one before the event. This video said it would miss us. The original video said it would hit. I will keep looking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLsh6iDZJEE&feature=player_detailpage
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Jonzie
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Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wordpress.com made the announcement on March 4th, 2012. This is when NASA began tracing the comet.
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Villatlf
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Post Number: 50
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

About the Russian meteor...
Some astronomers, by watching the available videos of the crash, have estimated its orbit. It was around 17 meters wide, and since it was not big, and coming from an orbit in previous days in direction to the Sun, it would be very difficult to detect it. Just the big ones, as Apophis, can be seen in advance. The Russian one belong to the apollo meteors, which origin is from the asteroid belt and can come from any direction. Only the meteors that are from a comet origin, and if they belong to the same extinted comet, come from the same direction.

Things like this happen. I think no body knew it was comming... not an earth human. And it warn us to develop a better detection system and in the future be able to change its orbit.

Francisco
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, March 04, 2013 - 03:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jonzie and All....


Yes, it was KNOWN to the researchers/astronomers...and which it was given a
name, so: they KNEW it was coming.

Perhaps, there was some kind of calculation error??

Even, NASA has problems calculating the (actual) sizes of asteroids; and
other data(; Plejarans are very aware of this, due, to our primitive
technology, etc...).

Some data scripts of asteroids, will not be released by NASA, as I came
across, when I needed certain data. It was either not filled-in or UNKNOWN.

So, that does not help much, if I want to calculate an astroid trajectory, of
one which can/could collide with Earth.

So, some way or another, I(we) are being denied access....

Some say, it is due to NASA being 'shut' like this: to not panic the world
population.....(?)


Edward.

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