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    Blake_p Member Post Number: 115 Registered: 07-2012 |
Regarding North Korea,respectively KJU; Its all huff and puff,it is political posturing for his people,trying to show his strength,or so called.He knows well and good that if he were to do anything the U.S. would wipe his little country off the map not to mention that their ballistic missiles cannot even reach the coast of California.Therefore,he has no threat of real ICBM's. I'm hoping he just tones it down before something does spark a real war,thats all we need right when we're finally about to stop the other nonsensical wars which have dragged on forever and done nothing but put us in debt.Plus he has a bunch of brainwashed robots over there that have their hand in front of a button,never good. I mean he released a pic of them doin a day exercise of them landing 2 hovercraft on a beach and deploying troops,then he photoshopped 6 more in the pic to make it look like a bigger deal,pretty funny. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2714 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Blake_p.... Well, what the US and South Korea have been conducting is the SAME! So, of course, BOTH are War Propagating; what else can we expect? We must not forget that Israel is in possession of some 150-200 Nuclear Warheads, and, they are not even inspected by the UN or other such organizations. THAT, is very Criminal. It seems, Israel is immune and North Korea, not. But, as Billy and the Plejarans said, many times, that the UN and their inspections is just 'a joke'! They are just the Puppets...of the US government; etc. So, if WW3/4 should break out, it is also to blame on the just above mentioned factors: there is juts NO real justice, here... Edward. | ||
Solar Member Post Number: 33 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hi Take a look at this video. It is truly horrible how many atomic bombs have already been detonated on our planet. Solar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY | ||
Thorod New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2012 |
Albert Pike,a 33'rd degree mason, the author of the masonic book Morals And Dogma and American Army General during the Civil War, wrote a letter to his fellow initiate, Manzetti, describing an outline of the proposed 3 world wars. You can read it online, perhaps someone could upload it. Frankfurt, Germany 1776, the big three: Mayer Rothschild, Adam Wieshaupt and Jacob Frank. The ultimate Rothschild endgame: start the next world war and fund both sides. Read George Washington's letter about the Illuminati and his awareness of their presence and agenda online. } | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 281 Registered: 09-2011 |
Mystical Masons like Albert Pike have been misguided. The Illuminatums are not nearly as influential/powerful as they would like to appear to be. A better strategy for figuring out the way the world works, who is the puppeteer secretly pulling our strings, whose agenda is being represented, is to just listen to people. Life | ||
Thorod New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2012 |
Flashing those puppeteer names around can cost you, unless you and your friends are "protected". Exposing those puppeteers names and activities may stop it, like what investigative journalists try everyday on the WWW. The RedShield puppeteer found out long ago how easy money is to made funding a war. If there is no war, then network one. Like Mrs. RedShield said, two hundred plus years ago, "If there are no wars, it's because my sons don't want any war". Only the wife of a real psychopathic family, wielding genuine power and influence, can say that, mean it, and believe in it. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 522 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Thorod, the Bilderbergs have more authority than the Freemasons in deciding how things are going to come down, as per one of the recent contact reports. I believe the thing is, if you're a freemason during the course of your initiation you must tell everyone about all your sexual deviancies so they can hold that against you. Then for shits and giggles, dig up a body or two and drink blood out of the skull. And people wonder why when there's a lot of freemasons around all the graves have cement slabs covering them. So by knowing sick things about you, they are able to keep you in line. Makes you wonder why they don't allow women. If they did you know none of those practises would be tolerated. Their motto is take a good man and make him better...it's actually take a good man and make him do whatever the group decides. It's only an illusion of better as most are religious freaks. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Skyrim Member Post Number: 85 Registered: 06-2012 |
Hi Justsayno, That's the same thing Scientology does to keep their members in line. phil | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 481 Registered: 08-2010 |
Justsayno, I'm a freemason and I can assure you that what you claimed about this noble organization is completely false. What you have read or been told was a lie. This organization does a lot of good. Like free of charge hospital services for terminally ill children...that's no-cost to the family. Look up the Midnight Mission to learn about the work for the homeless. I don't need to give the huge list. It is a noble organization. There is nothing religious. The organization uses the few spiritual principles contained in various scriptures (of different religions) for its spiritual foundation. I know there are a lot of negative things being printed up or circulated online about the organization, mostly people sensationalizing and fabricating things in order to profit from it. Hope this clears things up for everyone. Salome, Eddie http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_044 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_035 | ||
Matthew Member Post Number: 60 Registered: 03-2011 |
I concur Eddie, My Grandfather was Master Mason of the Surrey Lodge in England - a big deal if you know England, militarily I mean, but he did not ever involve himself with any criminal shenanigans. He never planned to control people with his Mason mates, nor did he meet secretly with Men In Black/plan the collapse of a nation/shoot JFK/have a grey alien stashed in his attic... Nice bedtime stories though they may be. When I visited the Surrey Lodge as a child, it all appeared to me to be a kind of Gentleman's Club for the religiously tolerant. It was my Grandfather Major Ward that encouraged my love of anything mysterious and he often spoke of UFO's and gave me books to read on the subject. He was also a knowledgeable man who had travelled and lived in Malaysia & so he was able to take in the spiritual principles of other cultures. I loved the man and he would be turning over in his grave if he saw what people are saying about the Masons on the internet through inane blogs, websites, etc. I, myself, am not a Mason nor do I have any intentions of being one although I see no problem with them as an organisation and they do protect and maintain many historic buildings in the UK as well as their tolerant principles, which is significant in a land that is being undermined culturally by intolerant ideas almost to the point of decimation. Matt | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 482 Registered: 08-2010 |
Yes Matt, A little correct knowledge can go a long way. Everyone starts out with something they've come across and that has impressed them. At some point we will come across the correct information. Between our two posts and the links I provided, everyone should come to the right conclusion. Salome, Eddie | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 840 Registered: 06-2008 |
American Freemasonry ..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pike "Albert Pike has often been named as influential in the early Ku Klux Klan, being named in 1905 as "the chief judicial officer" of the Klan by a sympathetic historian of the early Klan, Walter Fleming.[6] He was cited as the leader of the Arkansas Ku Klux Klan.[7] However this has been a controversial subject with Masonic authors saying that it "is impossible to either substantiate or disprove" involvement in the Klan." Seems some early masons in southern USA were doing more than helping old ladies across the street and mowing lawns .... Cheers. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 523 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Eddie & Matt, that is really funny that you feel the need to defend freemasons. Thank you for that part about how they feed the sick and dying, now I know where the blood for the ceremonies comes from. Considering we have universal health care there is no cost to parents of sick children so why did they start a hospital where services are available elsewhere? No, it's not religious per se but all members must acknowledge some sort of creational divinity. I never read any of this on a forum or website, we have a whole band of them here. Our local editor did a three part series about all the freemasons since its inception. What a shock that all the grand pubahs had distinguished seats on all the lucrative positions available in a small town. Quite an assortment from all realms of the political, judicial, industrial, pharmaceutical, county reeves, undertakers, you name it. Knowing a bunch of these people, I know damn well ethics and morals don't matter to them. I guess when you live in a city you miss out on putting names to their business. As far as I’m concerned the only people I see profiting from freemasonry are freemasons themselves, who make sure their fellow freemasons get that lucrative contract. Any club that is restrictive to women can’t be all that above board. Which reminds me, at what level does the goat come in? Not that I would ever join if given the chance (except maybe to save the goats) but I am proud that all the jobs I ever got were based my merit and ability and not by someone influencing or strong arming someone to give me the contract. Don’t you ever wonder if you could have made it on your own, with no help from your fellow masons? Is it not a form of nepotism? Guaranteed the freemasons don’t want their wives to find out what they do behind closed doors. And does that not help destroy a marriage by keeping sick dark secrets? And seriously, what woman would want to be with a man who had lain with a goat? But what an awesome group to join, eh (insert sarcasm here)? Hi Matt, you only think your grandfather never did anything wrong, because that's what you've been told. But you don't know that for a fact, do you? You would be surprised at how human, people have always been. Before my mother passed away she told me all about my grandfather because she wanted me to know the truth. Every time I hear someone tell me how saintly their grandfather was, I have to laugh and wonder if that person just doesn’t know, or is delusional. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 484 Registered: 08-2010 |
Ramirez, What is your point? That some of those who join Masonic lodges are not so honorable? I would agree. Not so different from this figu forum. There are many who join freemasonry because they really think it will give them some inside special privilege or connections and advantages. Although this is true of belonging to any group, the truth of the matter is these people get disappointed soon enough after joining. I would add this. It is a good thing that members of the KKK or any other hate group or degenerate individuals join an organization that contains some spiritual principles and concepts imbued into every activity or ritual. Some good will hopefully come of this. Salome, Eddie | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 841 Registered: 06-2008 |
The point is that historical data exists showing that some time back in the 1850s high ranking masons were instrumental in creating the KKK in America which appears far removed from the various honorable ideals touted by them as being what they are primarily about and represent. How many of Albert Pike's books are now masonic standards used in rituals, ceremonies and general reading material for members ? Founding father of modern American freemasonry plus among the founding fathers of the KKK .... that's quite something. So he didn't just join the KKK .... he helped set it up which is probably not the sort of achievement masons boast about. Did someone mention a goat ...... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet  and what's in those coffins next to the pentagram in the temple inner sanctum area ? But i agree, not everyone who joins a lodge does so for nefarious or materialistic reasons. Cheers. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 485 Registered: 08-2010 |
Justsayno, The difference between you and I, as it pertains to facts about freemasonry, is that I am one. If it was anything remotely what you have read or been told, I would be steadfast in denouncing it. I've been in the heart of the Scientology church. I have seen evil there. Helped people get out and escape. That organization I denounce. You seem convinced by the sensationalism of what ever you read or heard about freemasonry. I can't help you any further than sharing what I know. Take care. This has now gone far off topic. I don't see a point in continuing further correct? Salome, Eddie | ||
Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 95 Registered: 01-2011 |
Neither do I! Lets move on!  "Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs! And anyone who never has made a mistake in his whole entire life has never ever tried to do anything new." | ||
Matthew Member Post Number: 61 Registered: 03-2011 |
Justsayno-nsense. My grandfather was no saint. I said that I loved him. Have you a problem with that? In regards to the masons being a men's only club - Should we ban the Women's Institute too? "Quite an assortment from all realms of the political, judicial, industrial, pharmaceutical, county reeves, undertakers, you name it. Knowing a bunch of these people, I know damn well ethics and morals don't matter to them." The people you are talking about there represent valid trades in society. So if you think that Society is made up of immoral people then you are an extremist sectarian, not worthy of the society you enjoy. Ramirez - As I said 'nice bedtime stories' but hardly relevant for the truth that exists today. Matt | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 524 Registered: 10-2009 |
Eddieamartin, the difference between you and I is that I've never been sucked into either freemasonry or scientology, which says a lot about our characters. Did you forget that Skull and Bones is also a masonic lodge? But hey I guess if a person is not materialistic in the first place, there's no need to join a group to become more materialistic. So are you denying that lucrative contracts are given to fellow masons? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, just follow the money. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 486 Registered: 08-2010 |
Ramirez, With all due respect. Here is a clue. Albert Pike was born in 1809. Freemasonry had already been long established in the Americas. Since before the civil war. Justsayno, Skull & Bones is not freemasonry. Those are two very different organizations. Forgive me but, you really do not know of what you speak of. The sources of your convictions are a farce. In all honesty. My life has lead me to a variety of experiences and first hand look at many organizations, sects and cults. My personality is a very difficult one to get sucked-into by them. Another thing. No one gets "sucked into" freemasonry. Actually, proselytizing is discouraged and unacceptable. First, one has to know a freemason and personally express the desire to learn more and to become one (the mason's character should be such that a man would be impressed with his virtues). Then one needs all sorts of character witnesses and go through all sorts of interviews and they will want to get to know the person and his character. I'm sure that entrepreneurs within masonic lodges do discuss ventures and even form business partnerships. Good for them and people in general who do this. To keeping with topic; do you have evidence that any one of these ventures or an association between masons lead to a war (not of self-defense) or, the next war perhaps? Salome, Eddie | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 321 Registered: 04-2006 |
If Freemasonary has nothing to hide, then why is it a secret society? That should raise a red flag. I wouldn't be surprised if Freemasonary played a hand in past wars. If not in the past 2 world wars, at least in some of the smaller wars. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 841 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Eddie, "With all due respect. Here is a clue. Albert Pike was born in 1809. Freemasonry had already been long established in the Americas. Since before the civil war." Off course that's true. Albert Pike codified and consolidated various aspects of freemasonry dogma, ritual, beliefs and practices into several books so he in effect created a modernised framework making information about the movement accessible and understandable to most who read these works however some of them were and still are reserved only for masons. That's no problem but .... his role with the KKK .... that raises questions about connections between freemasonry, slavery, white supremacy and the KKK. During those early years (pre civil war) of the american republic freemasons were just as involved with and condoning the for profit practice of slavery and exploitation as anyone else. Are there public records showing that masons were actively assisting the abolitionist movement during their lodge meetings ? It wasn't till the efforts of William Lloyd Garrison then later Abraham Lincoln that some actual steps to abolish the practice were undertaken and meanwhile the KKK were ..... doing exactly what ? and with whose approval ? If there were deals and money to be made who played the three wise monkeys ? Cheers. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 693 Registered: 05-2008 |
Justsayno - please make some sort of effort to leave personal attacks/self-aggrandizing out of messages. in the GOT there is something about 'there being as many ways to the truth as there are human beings in the universe' .. or something to that effect, therefore you 'not getting sucked in to whatever', does not make you &/or your character better or more evolved than another. You surely understand that each of us must find our own way, potholes, warts & all. You are no different. As the moderators have said, attack what is being written, not the writer. Eddie, good on you that you haven't been sucked into personal attacks & have only responded to what has been written. Caveat - Not that I haven't been guilty of the same and won't be in the future.  Salome, Bruce |
