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Justsayno
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Post Number: 480
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't worry Corey, nasa will find evidence of previous civilizations. Just like what happened on our earth when neanderthals were discovered. Now whether we get that news or not is another matter. According to the contact notes, it will be our scientists who rectify the aging gene. The Sirians will still made good allies in the future, you just a few lifetimes before it happens.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Blake_p
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea i understand what you are saying Justsayno,but they removed everything from the planet. I mean what could we possibly find that would even be remotely as significant,plus as Corey said, that shot our future prophecy into another possible timeline. Recalling contact 251,that alters a lot of what was explained in the future and also would of been immensely positive to be under Sirian law or government,considering even in the future how much further they will still be ahead of us in every way. I wonder if Billy will endeavor to ever re-write,amend, or add to our future history because of the changes. I forgot, i dont think it was mentioned in the notes but did Billy write those 22/23 pages of future earth history with the help of Arahat Athersata,Petale or other/himself,Quetzal,Ptaah from future viewings?
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Ferbon
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2012 - 04:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Blake_p

Those are valid and good questions. The problem with them though is, that they can't be answered directly due to the much time still needed for them to be properly understood. I can point you to study ancient prophets for answers. The Nokodemion's spirit will show the Earth's humanity the right direction again in this regard, but the timeline for this is set to still remote future.

As to your question...

"I mean what could we possibly find that would even be remotely as significant..."

You have, and indeed right now, reports from contacts with people from not only our, but our twin universe and statements from the prophet of the new time, who told you the truth despite the unfortunate turn of events. Corroborating his work by hard study and hoping people realize his honesty sooner than later is more significant that artifacts from Mars.
There are vast amount of knowledge yet to be discovered and much suffering and self-inflicted, destructive lessons to be learned, before the conversation about the origin of the humanity can be hold in respectful/attentive manner.

Why such a long time? ...because "surprisingly" nobody will let themselves to be taught and more so even until the seventh seal is broken.

Salome
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Corey
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2012 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justsayno,

Contact 251 has the rectification of the aging/aggression gene in several stages. One of the first done by our scientists will increase our life spans to 350 to 450 years,

Where the Sirians are/were supposed to help us with the complete reversal is mentioned later on (quoted here):

"Thus, humankind on Earth will eventually find its direction back to its origin --- which, of course, will not suddenly resolve mankind's problems by any means. Of course, linked to this discovery will also be contacts with very distant ancestors of the previous "creator-overlords", as well as other intelligences from Sirius that will, by then, no longer lead to the pursuit and slaughter of the genetically-manipulated descendants, the terrestrials. The contacts will lead to a collaboration instead, resulting in the previous genetic manipulation's definitive reversal. This action, in turn, will result in the birth of new descendants who will be normal and no longer be degenerate. The circle finally closes and Man will become a true human being, in equilibrium with the negative and positive."

As you can see the final rectification will be (or would have been) a collaboration with the Sirians.

I'm aware that any alliance with the Sirians could be in the far away future, that's the tense (far off future) I was speaking of in my previous post.

Blake_p,

I think a rewrite of contact 251 would be a good idea. Someone should ask Billy about it sometime. The question should include whether Mars contains human remains from previous civilizations since remains are natural.


Salome

Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Justsayno
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Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2012 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Judging from this photo at Mount Sharp:
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA16105
They picked the perfect place to look for fossils as we have huge fossil evidence on earth from similar looking places...and our evidence goes back 65 million years from these types of areas.
Seriously who cares about confiscated technology because earth man needs baby steps and just the fact the humans from earth originated on Mars is going to be enough for most humanity to swallow. Considering that 30% of Americans don't believe in evolution, maybe those fundamental fact needs to be addressed first?
Why does contact report 251 need to be rewritten? At this point, what significance would it have? Contact Report 251 already says
"This proof will shake up the scientific community and, even more so, the religious world; it will prompt the need for great changes. That moment will come chiefly when artifacts from a previous human civilization are found on Mars, with pyramids and sculptures such as the so-called Mars faces representing but a mere fraction of the entire discovery."
Even with the destroyed technology, I don't believe this part of the contact report has changed at all.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, September 10, 2012 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All...


I guess, I will just stick to what Billy once said, in the sense, that if the
time is ripe we will find artifacts, or whatever, which will direct us in the
proper direction of our history.

There must be a very good reason for the eliminating of all ruins, etc.

Time is just not ripe for us to do any discovering in that direct, for the
time being or for a long time to come(?).

First, I thought that all the ruins and structures were eliminated due to the
Negative Fluidal Forces, still present and reverberating(; there is mentioned
of past wars and, Mars as Control Center/base, or something, etc....).
And so: a clean up job was conducted. And Neutralized Mars from all
this(?).

Thus, I guess: "when the time is ripe....the time is ripe....."

There must be a logical explanation.....


Edward.
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Ramirez
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Posted on Monday, September 10, 2012 - 07:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Thus, I guess: "when the time is ripe....the time is ripe....."

There must be a logical explanation....."

In the future though a long way off earth humans will eventually discover the secrets of time travel technology enabling them just like the Plejaran to make retrospective journeys back into time on different planets and in so doing will discover some remnants, remains etc that way though with help from others that being time space co-ordinates.

So they could arrive at Mars, visit the functional underground bases before those were comandered by the Giza and before they were demolished by the Sirians.

That however requires accurate historical records and a means to gain safe access to the ruins - underground facilities before any booby traps were installed.
Cheers.
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Justsayno
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Posted on Monday, September 10, 2012 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Correction to my last post - 70% of Americans DON'T believe in evolution. (The northeast more likely to side with science (37%) and those in the south are the least likely to accept evolution (24%)).
No matter what happened previously, there will always be fossil evidence. I'm hoping once NASA discovers it, they will share it with the world, because who knows which country will fly there next to discover it. And it's always been about who gets there first.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, September 10, 2012 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ramirez....


Yes, that possibility was once mentioned here, in the past. 'When the time is
ripe', through - Time Travel -, just as the Plejarans conduct such enquires,
when/if needed.

Thus, we have yet to await that moment in time when we achieve such
technology. And a 'wondrous door' will open...and broaden our views and
perspectives of the/our Past, Present and Future.


Edward.
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Ramirez
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Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - 02:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward,

Never realized that solution had been mentioned before however .... it's really the only option left.

There are already wondrous doors open thanks to Mr Meier and in the future it would likely be someone familiar with the contact notes who takes a lead in having the administration of the day make efforts at going back in time to position X on Mars on Y date and using Z to get through the security making sure not to press any suspicious buttons.

It might even be a collaborative effort with .... someone from space showing the way but not for many lifetimes and .... those visiting here wont remember reading and writing this but somehow various persons seem to get "ideas" about doing things .... more ideas than thinking .... hmm, gotta visit the supermarket.

So those who might have become depressed about the "lost opportunities" and that, gasp, the predictions might be wrong .... maybe not.
Cheers.
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Blake_p
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Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why does contact 251 need to be re-written? Because those things are not goin to happen, how could that part be called future earth history if it's not even possible because of events that happened that change that possible outcome. And if you read back, they removed everything, not just technologically based items, all remnants of the old Mars civilizations. So yea finding fossils and other things will be great, just hardly the same as it could of been. And by the time we have time travel, which will be a long time from now, we won't need any of those things that were left behind, the only reason to go back there would be to observe and rectify our past history to absolute correctness.
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Norm
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Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Everything artificial on Mars has been removed! I can't believe how some here continue to make excuses for the facts as they are presented by Billy!
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Savio
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Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Norm

In time, we will invent the Time Machine, we can then confirm whatever history we like

Salome

Savio
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Norm
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Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Savio, a Time machine??? You know how far off that will be? A couple thousand years! By then it won't matter what was on Mars! The Ps will already show us on their old video recordings.
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Truthseeker
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Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings everyone,

How about this. Even-though the Sirius ETS eventually removed all past traces of past human history and ruins from Mars, it's also not to say that they still can't create an entirely new structure or even structures in it's place. For example, why not simply they create a very large super sized solid pyramid in it's place?, complete with corridors and hieroglyphic writings that can be placed there just waiting for future Earth astronauts to eventually find, discover and eventually dis-cipher, which will not only give the history of the planet, but also correspond with info as already written by Billy.
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Matt
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Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm, when we invent the Time Machine, why can't we go back in time to Mars to see the ET objects there before they were removed?
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Savio
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Posted on Friday, September 14, 2012 - 04:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm

Although we lose the artifacts on Mars, perhaps there is still something left on the Moon.

Reaching our Moon is far more easy than going to Mars, it can be done by more countries in the near future.

However, if there is a cover-up, then, discovery on the Moon or Mars makes no difference.
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Michaelhelfert
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Posted on Friday, September 14, 2012 - 06:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

James, what you propose, to reproduce archeological sites that lie buried for a thousand years waiting to be discovered, is not a small undertaking. For the Sirians(?) to recreate a false history of Earthlings, they would have to want to. For now, let's chalk that idea up to wishful thinking.

It is possible the Sirians were not completely thorough. They may have missed something which some Earthling, or Marsling, or Moonling will find someday, which will be recognized as anciently manmade.
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Phi_spiral
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Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt: "Norm, when we invent the Time Machine, why can't we go back in time to Mars to see the ET objects there before they were removed?"

In Contact 531, Ptaah confirmed to Billy that there is indeed a group of time travelers from future earth that are being spotted in earth space now, and for some time now, but Ptaah had not previously include them in the number of the regular extraterrestrial visitor groups. So I would presume they have already gotten the information they wanted on Mars.

Regards
Bob
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Matt
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Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bob,

Yes, if I recall correctly these Earth time travellers from the future were the same ones that were meddling with Billy's Spirit books.
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Blake_p
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Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,
Where is this information that you are talking about, future time travelers messing with Billy's spirit books? That would seem to open up a whole different can of worms because i thought millennia past when we have already made the change to true human beings, who had been living by the spirit teachings and creational laws and recommendations.And i was under the impression that time travel was one of those things that wouldn't be discovered by a civilization who couldnt be responsible about using it yet,for many obvious reasons. Somebody clarify, if possible, thanks
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Scott
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Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is mention in contact 433 about strange happenings at the SSSC, and the possibility this is a result of travelers from the future: Here is the link to Contact 433 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_433

Scott

(Message edited by scott on September 21, 2012)
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Ferbon
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Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Blake_p
Time travel can't be performed even by means of relatively advanced technology. If I remember correctly Ptaah mentioned during the great journey 2 millennia before Earth people will mature enough to know how to do it.I don't recall any info about travelers from the future Earth visiting our present.

Salome

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