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Ferbon
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Post Number: 143
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 11:04 pm: | 
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Marbar
That is valid observation and it would be great to see more famous people like Ricky Gervais who openly admit that they don't want children and are atheists - not because of selfishness but a simple fact that they don't think they "must" have any nor belong to some cult/religion. It is enough to act in the positive way and help your society rather than to multiply and live in fake and delusional world of games and religion.
Salome |
Edward
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Post Number: 2603
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 03:24 am: |
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Hi Marbar and Ferbon....
Well said, Ferbon.
Just too many people are Indoctrinated through their (Cult) Religions: to
bear offspring! You know the old Bible saying: "GO....and Multiply!!" [Thanks
to those Self Proclaimed Jewish/Christian priests!!; I think they made it in
such way just to lower young virgins into their tents; I once read, not sure
FIGU, though....?]
Edward. |
Jedaiah
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 09-2012
| | Posted on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 03:55 am: |
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You're looked at with disgust and laughed at when it comes to this subject. People treat you as some sort of outcast or downright insane idealist. Especially when you talk about not wanting children for the sake of the planet's stability. How flipped upside-down is this world? |
Rintintin
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 04-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 01:54 pm: |
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The great DANGER of "Agenda 21" from UN...
VIDEO:
"Agenda 21" The UN's diabolical plan for the world is explained.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esJY2SK_4tE |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 227
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 02:39 am: |
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For all the people who, in their denial, think that overpop is an over-rated nefarious conspiracy to take people's property and lives, they should know that conspiracy is the religion of fools.
When the systems of men are corrupt,
and the gods they follow are tools,
when the lies of history threaten to erupt,
is conspiracy the religion of fools?
Conspiracy fools, conspiracy rules,
lies erupting and systems corrupting,
gods being used as tools:
conspiracy, my friends, has become the religion of fools.
Life
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 153
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 02:10 am: |
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Worth a mention
Bindi and the old battle axe having a dispute,
maybe Bindi found figu
They are using her
if i asked u to write an essay then edit it then no 2nd chance for you to edit it and i put your name on it and use it for propaganda how would you feel.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/celebrity/article/-/15954944/was-bindi-censored/
http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/blogs/article/-/15955568/bindi-irwins-essay-original-and-edited/
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings.
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Piyali
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 07:29 am: |
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Dear ilovebilly,
Salome! :-) I really like the link on Bindi Irwin...just finished reading an I went wow! What a brave young woman! I would love to share this with my friends on FB and by email with even others who are not in any internet social network. May I have your permission to do this? Her essay is powerful and the more people read about it the better. Thank you so much for sharing these great links with us. :-)
Salome with Love ~
Piyali
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 154
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 10:35 pm: |
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G'day Piyali
Spread the word, you dont need any permission
Bindi is a clever girl, it seems she is growing so fast, she has good tv shows for kids and in them is teaching conservation
Another Aussie is on the population issue named Dick Smith, the people listen to him more than the gov, he just talks truth and logic with humor. TPTB try and censor him but he is too powerful, Dick is an Old Spirit and his family will follow through when Dick departs.
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings.
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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 07:54 am: |
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Hi ilovebilly:
how do you know Dick's spirit is not as old as anyone else's on Earth. Anything you know that I don't? Or you say that just because he took an interest on the topic of overpopulation?
Thanks.
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 159
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2013 - 08:18 am: |
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G'day Carlos
Its probably not something your concerned about but i am on the lookout for and ponder it (from the start of my learning and noticed things are mentioned) so just would have been looking how to know an old spirit from the teaching
Most of the spirits on earth range from 7 million to 7 or 8 billion (from memory, i will be close) so its a wide range of age's on earth
i didnt say (Great One of Old) not yet anyway
Beam says you can tell an old spirit from how they work, (i think it was in questions to Billy section) Have a look at Dick Smith's life work its not just the population issue but many and Have you seen Dick corner politicians eh eh at his leisure.
I can tell from things Beam, Plejaren said and (Star trek etc... i count as the teaching), i also think Otto Muck was and is a good case study, his life is well documented online, i bought his book (the secrets of Atlantis)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16206238/The-Secret-of-Atlantis-by-Otto-Muck
He was on the right track for most things, its interesting to read like he knew in his spirit Atlantis is not a story and shows how this life is affected by prev lives/akashic records. Otto didnt have Beams work to help in his efforts either so wasnt easy.
Does Wendelle's (its online) work say anything to you?
I bet most of the A-bomb scientists where old spirits and are a good case study, what about gaiaguys? its in the forum (his work), i know he ruffled feathers here and some will dismiss it but sometimes feathers need to be ruffled.
Also young spirits are stupid, they dont have much to draw from, Beam says a new spirit would be a blubbering idiot, i can tell who the young one's are also, its not a difficult thing to do and makes it easier to tell who the old ones are.
If you think i shouldn't be confident about it i dont mind, i can say its just a guess but give it some thought please mate, i am confident, i can go over my thoughts in more detail as i dont have much time atm and its many little things i picked up from the teaching and pondered. Maybe we should make a list of things that show the old ones, debate it.
While we are on this topic of old spirits i want to talk about the Great Ones of Old, i am Concerned they didnt show in the USA and i think we should evoke the Truth to be shown to them, like more than 3 people do this 7 maybe, we need to be more pro-active, Obama might be one but he did show up, where are the others and what should be done about it by figu folk? i dont accept nothing should be done, i had an American step father and know/love yanks well and am concerned.
Beam cant do everything for us
How to tell who The Great Ones of Old are? Beam mentions they will shepherd and protect the people with the Truth.
We will know they arrived then
its not talked about and we need too and we need all of us to ponder/comment on what we can do, its not to late.
I think we need to (((ask The Creation to show The Truth to the Great Ones of Old so they can help show The Truth to the people.))
WE know what The Creation is and Our spirit is The Creation)), we can do this
Maybe even try ask The High Council to show them the Truth, it cant hurt to try.
If anyone can do it its figu folk
I dont accept they died either, they are walking around the USA unaware of the Truth right now as we speak, lets ponder what can we do, then ask our spirit to be released from confusion, the answer will come soon enough when not expecting it.
Carlos i am glad to get that of my chest as i think about it often, Now you can ponder it mate eh eh ;)
Being neutral positive is important as we know:
When will the Great Ones Of Old find The Truth? Where are the Great Ones Of Old who didnt show up in the USA? How do we guide them to The Truth with what we have?
Another thing comes to mind, when we shake we can do way more. Keep fingers apart in meditation or the force is blocked
Maybe a new thread/topic should be started in the forum
Neutral Positive.
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings.
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Ilovebilly
Member
Post Number: 164
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 12:19 am: |
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G'day Carlos
We should move the conversation here
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/1179.html
i did another related post there also
Carlos I dont expect a fast response as it is a bit to ponder then put into words
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings.
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Corey
Member
Post Number: 358
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 - 09:22 am: |
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Hi Kendall,
At first glance FIGU's recommendations on how to deal with overpopulation may seem like population control that is because they are. I have studied the overpopulation issue honestly by studying non-FIGU sources such as "Limits to Growth" Donella Meadows or any of Lester Brown's books (earthpolicy.org) and I can tell you overpopulation is terrible for a planet and we are in for a bad future as a race unless we get to a reasonable number of procreated offspring. FIGU's recommendations do not smear lipstick over the problem like mainstream media does, or just stop at calling climate change evil, they honestly relate that overpopulation is the root cause of all evils on this planet and I agree that there should be laws on limiting who procreates and who doesn't.
Billy and FIGU address this taboo issue in so many books and bulletins and their words ring true after you logically think about it for awhile and make your own cognitions after an honest study. Running out of food and water sources, desertification, running out of resources, wars, terrorism, running out of oil, war, terrorism, all boil down to overpopulation as the root cause and our planet will never know peace or harmony or freedom without getting back to the recommended 529,000,000 humans* and FIGU's recommendations are the best way to get back to that number.
Advanced space travelling races control their populations, and to even want to address the issue you must possess intellect and rationality. According to Billy overpopulation is a violation of the creative natural laws and recommendations of Creation, and with over 8.1 billion humans on this planet, and nothing being done about the issue we are in for a bad time as more time goes on.
*suitable number based on arable land for a planet the size of Earth where things can naturally regenerate and optimum for evolution of our species.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Marbar
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Post Number: 240
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 05:49 pm: |
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Since overpopulation is such a huge problem for this planet, there are some people who needs to be sterilized. In my opinion, the people who need to be sterilized are the ones who live in poverty. Now, from my experience, these are the people who have more children than they can handle.
It seems like they don't care about who the people they are hurting when they have children, especially when they know they can afford to have any children. When I see these people have children, I get very angry knowing that there is nothing I can do about it.
So, do anybody think people (in countries like the United States where people do have a choice) who live in poverty get sterilized? |
Marbar
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Post Number: 241
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 06:02 pm: |
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Man claims to be the world's oldest father: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/96-old-claims-world-oldest-father-video-202603744.html
Now, after reading that article; I can't believe that. This shows me that there need to be an age limit where a person should be allowed to have children.
This is what I think, men and women need to stop having children at age 45.
I do agree with women should start having children at 28 and men having children at 33.
Do anybody think at what age where both men and women need to stop having children? |
Edward
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Post Number: 2716
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2013 - 02:31 am: |
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Hi Marbar....
You bring up a good point, there!
Well...if I remember it correctly, there will come a point in time that most
countries, if not the whole world, will de governed by Dictatorial
Government.
They will, make sure, that only, 1 child, or NOT even any child at all!! And,
I think, it was mentioned, it can even mean the DEATH to the parents/
couple(?); there was not much details, so, we have to let our imagination
process further, here.
There are sci-fi motion pictures (from the past), which have already
portrayed such scenario, and, the writers of these film scripts are very
visionary, I would say(; Impulse transmissions, here, perhaps...??).
The above mentioned, can only come to pass, if we "out-live", all the World
Wars, we may be confronted with?
So, before that, we all have to determine it, by ourselves. We all, have our
Responsibilities.
In general, here in the west, anyone can be sterilized, Marbar. I would
agree, there are Conscious individuals out there whom took this step(; I even
know some friends and acquaintances whom undertook this step, due to the
conditions of life and the future to be..., etc...).
Edward. |
Corey
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Post Number: 372
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2013 - 04:31 am: |
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Hi Marbar,
Good question. In the book "Arahat Athersata" page 23 verse 23, it states that no male human lifeform under 30 life years should procreate descendants, and not over 40 life years.* In my country (USA) parents are getting younger and younger, having kids when they are not yet established in their lives. To make it worse the military gets mightier every day while the general population becomes stupider, more numerous, and college is no longer affordable.
According to the FIGU materials only would be parents that can prove they can afford children should be allowed to procreate (that along with other determining factors which would allow or disallow procreation). The main point is that we have to move from no population control to population control if we are ever going to recover from our horrendous overpopulation problems. It's probably going to take a lot of time before a birth-permit type society is set up here on Earth the way FIGU recommends, where those that don't have a birth-permit are subject to strict and rigorous birth controls until they are the right ages and can prove otherwise. In my personal view it is almost cruel to procreate children in these days and times leaving them to fend for themselves considering the bad future we have ahead of us due to overpopulation, possible (nuclear/chemical/biological) world war three, Apophis etc. I have that viewpoint after studying the negative effects of overpopulation and others due to the law of cause and effect for awhile.
Salome
Corey
* "Arahat Athersata" summary of page 23 verse 23 of reading original German.
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Edward
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Post Number: 2719
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2013 - 02:48 am: |
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Hi Marbar....
As far as I know, women should stop before 40-45 years old. Women, whom have
a child, after the mentioned age, can have Negative affects on the child.
It has to do with the DNA structure which is no long that healthy and strong
as it was before. The same, counts for the male seed. An older man's child
will have similar effect and will affect the child to be born. This, result,
is done by a long study by DNA researchers, I read, and watched on TV, some
years, ago. Thus, there is some Logic to it all; but, in general, this is
Common Knowledge, to a Logical thinking individuals.
Thus, the healthy babies are born...BEFORE....the mentioned ages.
After that: it will become risky!
And, if these babies are born, with so-and-so aliments, so will THEIR
offspring! ETC...; so, the aliments and illnesses will have no-stop to it
all!! Than, you breed an 'risk factor' lineage! And, this is WHAT the
Plejarans mean, when we should generated a Healthy Offspring Lineage, and NOT
a Degraded/Degenerated one. This, is just ONE example....
Edward. |
Edward
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Post Number: 2720
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 - 02:20 am: |
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Hi Marbar....
Aliment should be: Ailment [Spell-check error....]
Sorry for the typo...
Edward. |
Marbar
Member
Post Number: 242
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2013 - 04:48 am: |
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Hi Edward, I know exactly what you are saying. Do you use the web browser Firefox? Do you have Microsoft Word? With Firefox, they have a spell checker.
Edward, one of the issues with women is that many of them are obsessed with their "biological clock" ticking. As a result, these women seem so desperate to have children. |
Marbar
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Post Number: 243
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2013 - 04:53 am: |
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Hi Corey, I live in the southeastern United States and child born to unmarried couples is very common. To add more, it will be very had to find a person who is under 30 and don't have any children. Moreover, when an unmarried couple that lives in poverty is expecting a child, they think it is easy and people celebrate. I don't understand that. |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 375
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 02:44 pm: |
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Hi Marbar,
It is exactly the same where I live in the Midwest, and in fact I think it is the same all over the planet, take for example the Middle East, where a high percentage of the populations are under the age 25 (high young parental rate) in many countries that are becoming failed states. After 2020 if the US government dissolves the US could become a failed state too, and we may suffer from the same problems in the future because of problems such as disillusioned youth, extremism, and violence.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Edward
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Post Number: 2723
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 12:57 am: |
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Hi Marbar....
My spell error was more an unconscious error. I get mixed up with the 2 words
becuase they almost look alike... The 'i' does make the difference.
Yes, Biological Clock; perceptive of you.
Edward. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 665
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 11:00 am: |
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> Where we put letters certainly affects meaning. Unite or untie, it all depends on where you put the…i. |
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