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Ppc
Member
Post Number: 19
Registered: 05-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2013 - 03:42 pm: | 
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Edward,
Good. Your intuition is good then although it was pretty obvious of what i was doing but also; you wrote:
You Jay, from the past at PAR? There have been many Jays, here.
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What is "PAR"? I'm confused..
If what you do is being threatened as a profession, that could be scary. But that's the same reason why I walked out on stage many times after receiving death threats. I couldn't live without doing what I wanted to do. So at the same time I have to be willing to die for it.
Marilyn Manson
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 2806
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 02:49 am: |
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Hi Jay...
PAR = Plejarans are Real; which was/is a website all about Billy and the
Plejarans, etc....
I guess, you are another Jay. And, not the one at the PAR.
But still: welcome....
Edward. |
Vincent
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2013 - 11:24 pm: |
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Hi,
In the Meier material it mentions in ancient times a race of giants that were around 20 meters tall. Is this find of skeletor remains them and is it genuine?
RACE OF GIANTS found in India
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq4iFwskChU |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 691
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 09:40 am: |
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> Regarding such weighty matters as the…stick in question, if the moderators will allow, I direct you to an actual video that answers the question about the stick, it uses, etc.:
http://biggeekdad.com/2013/04/jonathan-winters-stick/ |
Geestkraker
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 05:05 pm: |
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Sometimes you don't need Meier to answer that stuff. Try to google 'giant hoax'. Any theory/hypothesis should be attempted deduced (not debunked by pseudoskeptics). You are also responsible for that, Vincent.
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Vincent
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 10:27 pm: |
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I'm asking if the pictures are real or a hoax because on this page there is talk of the same thing but there is no real confirmation weather or not they are real or a hoax.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/8845.html#POST25559 |
Villatlf
Member
Post Number: 52
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2013 - 08:17 am: |
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Two moons of ancient Earth again:
Billy took a picture, from a Plejaren ship, of Ancient Earth with two moons. (He travelled back in time to ancient Earth).
Now scientists are talking about it again:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/10165036/Earth-had-two-moons-scientists-claim.html
Francisco |
Lemontree
Member
Post Number: 64
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 05:34 am: |
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Has anyone wondered how the life of et's living in underground city (like Mount Shasta) is? I mean it's just 1 city, it's underground too - how can they live in such a place?
Also their space brothers come and visit from time to time so their city must be such good place that they don't leave earth...
It's strange, what can they do 24/7/365 in one underground city? They're humans like us (breathing, etc). |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 920
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 06:07 am: |
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Hi Lemontree,
Those are gone. They left earlier this year so Mt Shasta is now deserted.
Yeah, probably not a great way to acquire a suntan or watch sunsets and so forth.
Cheers.
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Matthew
Member
Post Number: 84
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 05:00 am: |
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Seems there were two, separate, Adams & Eves?
From my reading of the CR's there seems to be two separate events involving the creation of a ET father/Earth mother human called Adam & Eve, who were both created by two different Semjasa's? The first happened 387,000 years ago and the second around 13,000 years ago. This would explain the reason for the confusion around Billy and Guido both, supposedly, being future incarnations of former people called Semjasa.
Earliest event...
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Event_Timeline
"387,000 BCE Semjasa created Adam, the father of the white human race. [16]. Sartael created Tet-el, the father of the red (American Indian) human race. Giant humans of up to 33 feet height arise from the mixing of ET human and Earth human over several generations. The prophet Henok is born. "
Later event...
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_009
"Semjase
"Overcome by their thirst for power, they left their world about 13,000 years ago and returned to Earth.
Their highest leader was the scientist "ARUS", who was also called "The Barbarian"...
Semjasa, the highest leader of the sub-leaders, mated with an EVA, a female being, who was still mostly human-like and also rather beautiful (in feature and form).
The descendent of this act was of male sex and a human being of good form.
Semjasa called him "ADAM", which was a word meaning "Earth human being".
The later time, 13,000 years ago is also mentioned in the following excerpts:
- 'HISTORY OF THE ARYANS - the colonization of Earth - 70.101-171 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Chapter_6_-_EXTRATERRESTRIALS'
- 'History of Mankind - 9.115-162
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Chapter_8_-_HUMANITY'
So Billy was the, 387,000 year ago, Semjasa and Guido the, 13,000 year, Semjasa? Talk about history repeating! (Apologies if this is widely known & I am just late in the game) |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 706
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 04:05 pm: |
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> I think all of this still begs the question, requires lots of clarificatio n of who exactly did any of these first Adam and Eves procreate with to perp etuate their respective races? Are we talking about incest with other siblin gs or...what? |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 707
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 08:15 pm: |
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> Please post this if you didn't receive my first attempt.
It seems the question still remains, as it does with the Biblical version, just who did these first human mate with in order to create their respective races? It begs the question if their were other progeny from the "first couples" that then incestuously interbred with each other or…what? |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 924
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 - 05:20 am: |
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"did any of these first Adam and Eves procreate with to perp etuate their respective races? Are we talking about incest with other siblin gs or...what?"
Every time i bring up that question in conversation with a bible thumper they either go white or change the subject, or stare sheepishly at the ceiling.
Skyman created Adam then from his rib created Eve who had two sons Cain and Abel .... so what happened after that ?
8.3 billion persons wandering about right now descended from ...... maybe that's why the place is such a hillbilly shambles .....
Cheers.
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Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 766
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 - 05:37 am: |
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Hi Michael
Yeah come to think of it
But I wonder how many Adams and Evas are we talking about since the 200 subleader times twice went around the world having sex with earth natives who begot these Adams and Evas.
And how many of these subleaders had second helpings like going to China one day spreading their seed or receiving it whilst the next to Norway for another session.
I wonder why they just didn't bed down among themselves or did they have irreconcilable differences and incompatibility issue.
I also wonder how different the birth of Adam and Evas were when the female subleader bore them as oppose to the earth native females.
Were they afforded special incubators.
Who did the raising of these children or did the subleaders go AWOL after it was all said and done.
If they did have a part in raising these Adams and Evas were these the famous characters from ancient mythologies of all cultures around the world we read about in our history lessons.
Were these subleaders get castrated by Jehova after he found out about this travesty
Just rhetorical questions Michael.
Regards
Matt Lee |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 480
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 - 09:35 am: |
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Matthew,
OM explains that there was a Semjasa roughly 389,000 years ago that was a former ringleader, and the new 2011 TJ explains that this former ringleader Semjasa was Quetzal's spirit-from. OM also explains that there was a second Semjasa, who procreated Adam (31:560/31:43) 11,008 before Jmmanuel's time or 13,023 years ago and this was explained in the new 2011 TJ that this 2nd Semjasa was a former personality of Jmmanuel (Billy's Nokodemion spirit-form). 11,008 years before Jmmanuel's time was also the time that Sartael procreated the red race by procreating Tetel and Asasel procreated the dark races by procreating Ledon. The time reckoning of 13,023 years ago is 50 years short of the time reckoning for Adam in the correction to "An Open Word" and almost 500 years short for the time reckoning for the procreation of Adam in the new 2011 TJ (13,500 years ago from 2011). Om explains the first Semjasa's (Quetzal's spirit-form) people tried procreating with Earthhumans roughly 389,000 years ago and this resulted in giants and other evils such as nuclear war. So these were 2 separate occurrences that were many years apart. -I have a question to Billy in the next round why there are 3 different time reckonings for the over 13,000 years ago procreation of Adam in Billy's books.
Michael Horn: Contact 9 sentence 148 states that Semjasa and his wife also had a female child, and this child was bred with the male to generate offspring so in an essence, yes incest was included in the procreation of the white race.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 774
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2013 - 05:00 am: |
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Hi Corey
Thanks for the reminder Corey and for the explanation
I suspect that there must be more than just two episodes of procreation of Adams and Evas by ETs in ancient past.
I also think that Billy has included in his texts only information that was relevant and very important to the whole context of his mission and may have omitted others that were less relevant.
Therefore
What of the origin of the Chinese and the Japanese roughly 1 epoch ago.
The procreation of their own version of Adams and Evas doesn't fit the Chinese and the Japanese timeline nor that period if we take Billy's information into account.
There are legends around something similar in ancient Chinese and Japanese texts and lore where the Gods came down from Heaven to create the Chinese and the Japanese race.
Taking all this into consideration we can understand why even if the life of Billy's most recent past incarnation, Mohammad, was important there is scant information from Billy of him but instead Jmmanuel seems to be the main focus.
So you wonder why.
It must be looked at in terms of how important it was to the mission.
Matt Lee |
Matthew
Member
Post Number: 85
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Monday, August 26, 2013 - 04:13 pm: |
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Thanks for the information Corey - much appreciated as always.
The discrepancy in the different times around Adam are a mystery and I hope you get an answer to your question.
From recent cognitions, I think that establishing the exact times of certain events is no easy feat for Billy and the Plejaren once we really think about it. Yet they do this all the time for us and hand it to us on a plate and often with no thanks.
It really makes the mind boggle if you think about the challenges involved in establishing certain but yet unknown times. For instance, when trying to establish a time, even with a beamship travelling back in time to there, certain causalities dictate which events become fixed in time and this is dependent upon who is doing the perceiving of the event and the awareness of time in that time if you get my meaning.
I have observed this multi-perceptional-energetic aspect in my sightings of UFOs. It seems that to establish certain times of single events takes tremendously hard work. Imagine going in a beamship and visiting a time where no time is established in the form of written dates or clocks in that time. You would then be dependent upon the given data, perceptions and consciousnesses and alignment of planets and also the cognition of the people that lived at those times and their understanding of the time could be wrong as is ours. This I have gleaned even in regards to the sightings of UFOs such that perceptual targets, including the establishing of certain times, are like ever-changing multi-perceptional targets that never stop still and are effected by what is available at that time.
In striving to ascertain the truth of a time must take an absolutely massive effort by Billy and the Plejaren that is truly astonishing to think about, when you think that they have to rely on how that time is recorded during those target times, such that, even that can move depending on the position of certain planets that also shift in time and also causal factors of the perceptions of that time so that present events being observed are like falling and rising continents rather than hard fixed things.
Considering just that, what Billy and The Plejaren do to establish definite times is absolutely amazing to say the least.
Take our current times standard BC and AD, or respectively BJ and AJ. This has also shifted. Consider that matter has been changed by nuclear wars or atomic radiations, consider that time has been speeded up or slowed down. Consider that the planet's rotation has altered and I think we get a clue as to the tremendous effort of The Plejaren and Billy in establishing fixed times, such that even that can change even after already established dates and this must not be underestimated, or overestimated if you get my meaning.
Salome,
Matthew |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 780
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 05:11 am: |
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Hi Matthew
Well said and I totally agree with your sentiment.
Full praise to Billy and the Plejaren!
Matt Lee |
Ferbon
Member
Post Number: 311
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Friday, August 30, 2013 - 04:12 am: |
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Newinitiation
To be sure, what Billy and P's "do" is so that we learn and realize ... - not so that we praise.
Salome |
Herbert
Member
Post Number: 7
Registered: 02-2013
| | Posted on Friday, August 30, 2013 - 02:18 pm: |
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Hello everyone, I was hoping that someone amongst you can help me figure out some info... I have a question regarding the origin of the Earthly human genetics... Was it Nokodemion who originally generated the human genetics like which is present on our Earth today? |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 786
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 30, 2013 - 08:00 pm: |
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Hi Herbert
Welcome Herbert
I don't know about DNA specifically but you will find this link helpful in answering your question.
Where do we come from?
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Where_do_we_come_from%3F
2.6 How did human beings on Earth originate? Did they really evolve from the ape?
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Interview_with_Billy_%281998%29
Matt Lee |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 789
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 30, 2013 - 07:51 pm: |
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Hi Ferbon
Forgive me for asking this question but do you have a double account in the name of Earthling?
Why I ask this question is that as soon as Ferbon disappears from this forum Earthling appears and visa versa and the writing style along with grammar usage is similar.
If this is my huge misunderstanding I apologise in advance but if true then you owe your fellow forum members here a big apology for the deception.
My response to you is that we should give credit where credit is due not that Billy is doing anything for praise but those who have come to appreciate it should give thanks and praise for the enormous amount of effort not to mention the countless personal tragedies Billy went through to give us the truth on a silver platter.
Case closed.
Matt Lee |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 772
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2013 - 03:39 pm: |
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I'll let my alter-ego handle this schizophrenia-conspiracy-deception-accusation.
Ferbon, you take it from here.
And just in case we are one-and/in-the-same person, I apologize big-ly to our fellow forum members, as was suggested by our conspiracy-minded accuser.
And just in case we are not one-and/in-the-same person, I accept Matt Lee's huge misunderstanding-apology and wonder what other conspiracy theories he may believe that are incorrect.
I eagerly await the outcome of this Sherlock Holmesian riddle.
Salome,
Bruce
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