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Joe
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Post Number: 270
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2013 - 11:54 am: | 
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It seems that John Kerry wants the US president to attack Syria because according to him the Syrian president Bashar al-Assad is behind the chemical weapon attacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXjAxBSHKTI
Obama to Seek Congressional Authorization for Syrian Strikes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfosUU__8Ck
Michael Horn has an interesting article on his blog which might be connected to this.
http://theyflyblog.com/as-the-fires-rage/08/26/2013 |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 717
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2013 - 03:05 pm: |
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> Mpower: michael@theyfly.com |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 718
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2013 - 03:10 pm: |
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> Hi Mark92111,
I'm always glad to hear that our film has reached someone and contributed some value, even if it includes some rather unpleasant possibilities. Hopefully, we have averted the WW III-IV scenario but even Billy ad the Plejaren know how UNpredictable the human beings of Earth can be. As many may tell you here, don't trouble yourself or others with efforts to convince them of the truth, but it's great that you have a friend who is open to it. I've known some people for 20 years or more, friends no less, who have no interest in the Meier material and I (finally) learned some years ago to not try to force it on them. Enjoy your learning! |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 792
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2013 - 07:54 pm: |
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Hi Michael
Ok
And just in case I come across as anti-American and prejudiced only against them with the kind of rhetoric that I use, to this I am not and not you Michael but in case others here take my criticism against the US personally I hope you don't as when I referred to the US I predominantly mean the US government, the shadow governments behind it and any people in power engaged in any acts against humanity.
Matt Lee |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 559
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, September 02, 2013 - 07:22 am: |
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I laugh at the Skull & Bonezer John Kerry when he's so outraged by the use of chemical weapons. In the early '50s declassified Project St. Jo was using Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada as a testing ground for simulated anthrax and they also used Minneapolis and another northern American city (which name escapes me now) TO TEST OUT THEIR CHEMICAL WEAPONS ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Joe
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Post Number: 272
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2013 - 02:16 am: |
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Here's an interesting interview with the Syrian president Bashar al-Assad:
http://www.zengardner.com/the-other-side-bashar-al-assad-interview-with-izvestia
Although I obviously don't know for sure, I do think that there are certain countries that want to make him look bad for their own agendas. I mean for me, he strikes me as an intelligent person and that he is probably telling the truth about the situation in Syria. Remember to not always believe what is being said about Syria in the mainstream media because it might not necessarily be true. |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 562
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2013 - 10:34 am: |
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Hi Joe, totally agree with you on that. Interesting to note that Israel just performed a military exercise in the Mediterranean. Hopefully the vote next week by congress will allow cooler heads to prevail. I don't believe the vast majority of Americans want to go to war. Let's kill the Syrian Government to show the world that killing civilians is wrong, is such a stupid concept. But one that the warmongers hold onto.
Ramirrez, I wonder if Mabus is on a ship in the Mediterranean?
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Mark92111
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2013 - 05:05 pm: |
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Hi guys. I think we all can agree that death is bad. But, if the American people on a grand scale could see and live the kinds of atrocities that Governments do in war, maybe the wisdom gained for humanity will bring about peace faster. That and 3/4 of the population being eliminated may not be such a bad thing when you look at it as speeding up a necessary step. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 937
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2013 - 07:07 pm: |
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Looks like El Presidente has swallowed the frame Bashar bullshit and now carries out "say this" "sign that" as dictated by the puppet masters at the CFR who "advise" courses of action.
Obama got Osama, Obama got Gaddafi, Obama gonna get Bashar next .... maybe, then who after that ?
Think about it .... with the world spotlight on your country who in their right mind would supply then authorize their military to use chemical weapons against their own civilian population ?
Bashar just doesn't come across as the type nor does he appear to be a fool.
Did someone mention Mabus ..... Ray Mabus is secretary of the US navy whose ships would launch a sizeable number of the missiles if an attach were to be initiated.
Cheers.
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Sarah
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Post Number: 232
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - 04:47 am: |
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And, I don't believe anything the mainstream media says at all about what they say "Assad did." |
Sarah
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Post Number: 233
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - 04:46 am: |
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Uhm no, war would the the absolute last way to bring up population stabilization. Unless you consider about 10,000,000 a sustainable population number. War never brings about peace. |
Hendrikus1970
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - 12:35 am: |
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i cant belief some of the replies i see here ! especialy of Mark92111.
I also cant belief that Obama is pushing for this ww3/4 action !
I thought BEAM said he was a good guy ?
Maybe hes a good guy or maybe hes not capable of logical thinking ?
Or is he just a muppet that is out for a wide scale warr that will kill 6 billion people?
I got a bad feeling about this situacion and i hope they wil see the light fast !
Sometimes i wish that people like Mc cain ,Natanyaho and the rest of those C sucker elites drop dead.
Very angry i get at those bad bad people that dont seem to care about human lives.
If only the world could remove all of them ! and start focusing on the good |
Matt
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Post Number: 354
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - 06:31 am: |
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"Think about it .... with the world spotlight on your country who in their right mind would supply then authorize their military to use chemical weapons against their own civilian population ?"
Amazing our mass media has never contemplated this or asked this logical question! (Or maybe it should be NOT amazing!)
Skull & Bonezer John Kerry is hell bent on attacking Syria. He is a dangerous person to be on Obama's side and affecting his decision making. But there are probably many warmonger people putting Obama into a corner and making him do something he doesn't want to do.
I surely hope the U.S. wakes up and doesn't attack Syria! |
Mark92111
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - 08:55 am: |
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Hendrikus -What the powers that be in America want they get. They want more war. That being said I am trying to find some positive thought in an extraordinarily negative situation. I am tired of my country always fighting and killing and always getting away with it. If the American people were not so passive with what our government is getting away with then maybe there would be less death. Americans are not shocked when they read in the newspaper or online that we are going to war with another country. At most they just pray and let god deal with the responsibility. If war is brought to our soil maybe it would change the mindset of the American people to always stand up against war in the future. Some people can be told the truth, others need to live the truth. |
Scott
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Post Number: 2416
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - 04:58 pm: |
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Mark92111,
I think its not so much that Americans are being passive, although there is some truth to that, but it also has to do with US military power. This power is known throughout the world for good and bad. I'm not saying that things cannot be changed, but the government and other agencies are holding the cards, which can be dangerous if you draw too much attention to yourself... |
Hendrikus1970
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - 11:04 pm: |
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Hi,
maybe we should stand up against private contractor companies !
I think that they can influence politics a lot and that maybe even its them that manipulate the goverments trough lobby's .
Very very dangerous to have this private military companies ! and i belief that it should be forbiden and stopped immediately. |
Mark92111
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2013 - 10:44 am: |
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Thank you for the thoughtful replies Hendrikus1970 and Scott.
Scott, you are right:"I think its not so much that Americans are being passive."
Passive is the word I used to describe the inaction that has taken place in America to change our policies to fit the peoples wishes. The reason behind the inaction in my view can be found in denial, disinformation, and a strong sense of helplessness against the powers. Not many people (in my view) are willing to step forward and be 'that guy' who does something profound to help change the direction of our country. Also, with the media being controlled and manipulated and our government knowing everything about us including bedroom activities and our deepest thoughts, we tend to cower in a type of fear from our government. So, in order to take the American people from a 'passive' state to a more reactionary and proactive state I believe something profound should happen. I see from most peoples perspectives that I could be viewed as a button pusher. (like pushing a button will destroy everything) I think that humanity especially in America could benefit greatly from actually seeing war first hand on it's own soil. And, as far as this being an end-times scenario I believe right minds will prevail at the time needed. Like, a military power in another country who would attack could choose to use conventional as opposed to nuclear.
But, since my original statement was reactionary to the thought of a ww3/4 scenario I digress. |
Corey
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Post Number: 487
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2013 - 10:51 am: |
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I can't believe I am posting a link from Fox News or that I am posting a link about the Pope, but Pope writes letter to Putin and G-20 asking them to abandon "futile pursuit" at military intervention in Syria?!?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09/05/pope-urges-g-20-to-abandon-futile-military-solution-for-syria-urges-dialogue/
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Magic_pie
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2013 - 03:33 pm: |
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Hi Corey,
I don't like nor do support religion or religious leaders. But I have to tell you, I like this Pope.
Not only is this Pope trying to stop the warmongering leaders in this case, but he has really stood up for the poor of the world, and starving. Unlike past Popes, Francis is a modest person who has pushed away the luxury of the Vatican and lives in small quarters and cooks his own meals.
Pope Francis recognizes the problems and scandals of the Vatican and seems to want to fix them. All in all, he seems more like a personally responsible human being than a mindless religious zombie. I think he will go a long way to making the world situation better because many Christians could follow his example and be more responsible, conscientious people.
Cheers,
Anthony |
Ferbon
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Post Number: 315
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Friday, September 06, 2013 - 02:14 am: |
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Mark92111
Evolution doesn't happen in a "profound" way...it just happens.
If you're interested, then in 215th contact you can find Quetzel's thoughts on one person's roll in the progress of many, respectively his neighbors, his district, his country, etc.
Also, there is no such thing as "end times scenario" and there are people here who can explain this for you.
Salome |
Joe
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Post Number: 274
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, September 06, 2013 - 01:23 pm: |
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It looks like the US president Barack Obama is going to give the green light for a military strike on Syria.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs6mhiXJA8k
For me the impression that I get from Barack Obama is that he is being misled to attack Syria. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, September 06, 2013 - 02:14 pm: |
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Attacking Syria will not accomplish anything; I agree; the US is being misled on the whole issue. There is so much back room stuff going on; the people do not hear the whole truth. The news media is pretty much worthless.
Kenneth |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 938
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2013 - 07:44 pm: |
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Hi Corey,
"I can't believe I am posting a link from Fox News or that I am posting a link about the Pope, but Pope writes letter to Putin and G-20 asking them to abandon "futile pursuit" at military intervention in Syria?!?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09/05/pope-urges-g-20-to-abandon-futile-military-solution-for-syria-urges-dialogue/"
Putin isn't the one threatening a rain of missiles on Syria. From what appears on the media he is about the only world leader showing any common sense and calling the situation for what it is ..... a frame up of Bashar Al Assad.
If anything the papa could direct his plea for restraint towards those inflaming the situation by supplying what amounts to a CIA backed coup attempt using "rebel" forces ..... the US and behind them Israel.
How is all that stuff getting into Syria ..... via the border with Israel maybe ....
Why would the military of Assad indiscriminately lob artillery rounds loaded with chemical gas (sarin) into suburbs which they control or are hardly any threat which might have a few stray groups of rebels moving in and out ?
It just dont make any sense but then how many false flag operations do when examined in detail.
Cheers.
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