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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 822
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2013 - 09:15 pm: | 
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Billy had said that a 'space wanderer' would be a possible threat in 2012 , or stated otherwise . |
Villatlf
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Post Number: 51
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2013 - 01:10 pm: |
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We are talking about two different objects:
(1) Small Asteroid, “2012-DA-14”, of around 45 meters of size, passing at 27,500 km from earth (lower than the geo-stationary satellites). This one is bigger, and it did not hit the Earth. It was visible mainly in Europe as an 8th magnitude star (not visible at naked eye). Nasa and astronomer knew about it. It is still in space, getting away from Earth.
(2) The big meteor that hit Rusia. It was 17 meters size, and injured more than 1000 people because of the shock wave that broke glasses. Their fragments did not injure anyone, the injures were caused by broken glasses. It was not detected before. Looking at the video, it shows the common behavior of a fallen object like this.
We may say that it could be a coincidence they came at the “same time” from different directions. It shows how vulnerable we are. The point here is… we know Apophis is coming, but are we ready to deflect its orbit? Even if we are, is the humanity ready to work collaboratively to do it?
Francisco |
Edward
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Post Number: 2694
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 11, 2013 - 02:44 am: |
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Hi Fransico....
Yes, very true.
There were TWO and which should not confuse with each other.
Perhaps the NASA, may have known of the Russian rock? And, knew that it was
coming down to hit somewhere on Earth? And, not reveal this? Due, to it being
to late to do anything about it, or do anything about it in general? And, so
not mention it?
Yeah, what can we do when such rock is coming with a collision course?
Just see WHERE it hits....
Edward. |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 520
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 08:55 am: |
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Could this be our binary star system?
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA16872
From contact report 544:
“Billy: To my knowledge, they use the name Nemesis for the alleged Dark Star. But the whole thing has nothing to do with the dark planet, which moves along its trajectory on the other side of the Sun and cannot be perceived from the Earth and haunts through the system, because I think that this has nothing to do with the Dark Star, Nemesis, or?
Ptaah: That is right. The SOL system is a binary star system, where the SOL twin is a so-called Dark Star, as you say. Its size is about ten times smaller than the SOL itself, whereby this twin also has its own planets orbiting around it, as you have known since 1975. The radius of the Dark Star to the SOL encompasses more than a light-year, therefore, more than 9.5 trillion kilometres, and the circumnavigation of the SOL’s centre of mass, that is to say, SOL's own orbit, amounts to around 26 million years.”
It seems like it’s the right distance away since we are about 5 light years from the sun and this system is 6.5 light years away on the other side of the sun...
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 270
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 02:49 pm: |
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G'day folks looking into apophis
if anything in this post is of any benefit in your efforts feel free to use it
Thoughts/Things to consider from cc for finding the dark star and to be able to track apophis with current technology
The currently existing technical devices are not yet capable, however, of capturing the extremely faint light of the Dark Star and its satellites:
when will the so-called interferometer mentioned in cc be developed? (is it a new system of telescopes or can they just do it with several telescopes already built working as one) and can they hurry the interferometer up? the telescopes are probably already built but they dont realise the benefit of linking them yet? they just need to link them and develop software so they work as one telescope?
Quetzal:
202. It will be a telescope that will consist of a whole series of other telescopes that are grouped together, which will reveal undreamed-of and unexpected new impressions and insights about the universe to astronomical science.
1. the dark star (Nemesis) is 9.5 trillion kilometres from SOL (approx)
2. near edge of ort cloud
7sometimes Billy lets things slip, (he wanted the Plej to move apophis for us, i love Billy) that 2 ort clouds exist (one on either side of the dark star?7)
a 2nd ort cloud hmmmm and the Dark Star to the SOL encompasses more than a light-year, therefore, more than 9.5 trillion kilometres
so like how difficult is it to find the dark star orbit now?
just need to find its speed,mass and place in the orbit and its got a long chain of bread crumbs showing that
e.g.
3. certain meteors where disturbed by the dark star (sent towards inner sol system), can these particular meteors path be backtracked to show where the dark stars orbit was at that moment in time?
The first meteor exploded in late July, 2001, high over the region of Kerala, with which you are familiar, in India. Another meteor from the same chain exploded once again at a high altitude over India, in the year 2007, while the next two meteors from the same chain penetrated the Earth's atmosphere and exploded in 2008, high over Colombia and New Mexico. And, from this very elongated meteor chain, still more and more are underway and on a course to SOL and the Earth, because these previously mentioned meteors were catapulted out of the Oort cloud by the Dark Star, that is to say, the dark twin of SOL. Also, there are still four objects, which were hurled from the Oort cloud by the Dark Star, which belong to the category of comets and are likewise on a path into the inner SOL system.
4. Red Meteor: does this also come from the Oort cloud?
Ptaah;
That is actually right, and if nothing special results which changes its orbit through any emerging unexpected factors or that it is modified by the Earth human beings, then it will result in the prophecies fulfilling themselves.
5. The SOL system is a binary star system, where the SOL twin is a so-called Dark Star, as you say. Its size is about ten times smaller than the SOL itself, whereby this twin also has its own planets orbiting around it,The radius of the Dark Star to the SOL encompasses more than a light-year, therefore, more than 9.5 trillion kilometres, and the circumnavigation of the SOL’s centre of mass, that is to say, SOL's own orbit, amounts to around 26 million years (the sun orbits a point in space also)
6. here cc tells how the dark star has penetrated the (edge?) of ort cloud, (probably when the destroyer was moved?) after 1975?
7. Most importantly it is mentioned its a few (or small %) of scientists who wont consider nuking apophis, with a logical argument that will be changed
sometimes great structures are hurled out as meteors from the Oort cloud, into orbits of the inner SOL system. A large chain of such meteors is, already for many decades, underway into the inner SOL system and has partly already passed the Earth or exploded high in its atmosphere. This is happening because of the Dark Star which has long since penetrated directly into the effective range of the Oort cloud, and since then evokes severe disturbances
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_544
Date/time of contact: Saturday, September 1st, 2012
You make me embarrassed, my friend. I would rather have you explain something to me a little more precisely: actually why, for some time now, enormous changes take place in the Oort cloud, which is located just at the outermost edge of the SOL system, as you explained to me in a conversation on my Great Trip in 1975, when you permitted me to see the Dark Star. In one of our most recent conversations you also again privately indicated something regarding the changes taking place in the Oort cloud. You said that, due to the dark planet floating around out there, changes are taking place that will influence the whole SOL system. To my knowledge, the terrestrial scientists suspected something along these lines, that the Dark Star exists out there, but, for them, everything is based on pure conjecture. To my knowledge, they use the name Nemesis for the alleged Dark Star. But the whole thing has nothing to do with the dark planet, which moves along its trajectory on the other side of the Sun and cannot be perceived from the Earth and haunts through the system, because I think that this has nothing to do with the Dark Star, Nemesis, or?
Ptaah;
That is right. The SOL system is a binary star system, where the SOL twin is a so-called Dark Star, as you say. Its size is about ten times smaller than the SOL itself, whereby this twin also has its own planets orbiting around it, as you have known since 1975. The radius of the Dark Star to the SOL encompasses more than a light-year, therefore, more than 9.5 trillion kilometres, and the circumnavigation of the SOL’s centre of mass, that is to say, SOL's own orbit, amounts to around 26 million years.
b;
SOL’s own orbit – I do not understand. What does that mean?
q
The Sun, that is to say, SOL does not stand still in outer space; rather it turns, indeed in its own sweeping circle, around an imaginary midpoint.
b;
Aha. I did not know that. And why, so far, have the terrestrial astronomers not yet discovered the Dark Star?
p;
The hitherto existing astronomical technical equipment and devices are still not suitable. But it is only a question of time until a corresponding discovery occurs. The currently existing technical devices are not yet capable, however, of capturing the extremely faint light of the Dark Star and its satellites. And regarding that, to which the changes relate, in the Oort cloud, evoked by the Dark Star; the basis is that an enormous movement occurs in the innumerable – existing in billions – numbers of smallest, small, large and largest rock, ice and metal fragment formations, and sometimes great structures are hurled out as meteors from the Oort cloud, into orbits of the inner SOL system. A large chain of such meteors is, already for many decades, underway into the inner SOL system and has partly already passed the Earth or exploded high in its atmosphere. This is happening because of the Dark Star which has long since penetrated directly into the effective range of the Oort cloud, and since then evokes severe disturbances.
b;
Then, from out of there, maybe new and still unknown comets and meteors can reach into the inner solar system and in the area of the Earth, as is also indeed the case with respect to objects in the asteroid belt? And as I am already at this, I ask myself whether it is because, even with these projectiles from the Oort cloud, it is the case that some are circling in twos and threes, or that some are circled by small satellites like moons, as is the case for the larger asteroids, as I was allowed to observe from your Great Spacer in 1975 on my Great Trip. But what has happened to that very long, dark meteor-chain which emerged from the Oort cloud, which was on course for Earth, which you reported to me privately at the start of 2001? Are these meteors still underway into the inner SOL system and to Earth?
p:
It was and is really a very long chain of meteors, which was catapulted out of the Oort cloud, and which found its way into the inner solar system, including the Earth. Some of the larger meteors of this very long chain, as I have just explained, have already passed near to, or more distant from, the Earth. Smaller ones have crashed, or exploded at great heights above the Earth, and indeed across a number of years because they were stretched so far along their path and still are. The first meteor exploded in late July, 2001, high over the region of Kerala, with which you are familiar, in India. Another meteor from the same chain exploded once again at a high altitude over India, in the year 2007, while the next two meteors from the same chain penetrated the Earth's atmosphere and exploded in 2008, high over Colombia and New Mexico. And, from this very elongated meteor chain, still more and more are underway and on a course to SOL and the Earth, because these previously mentioned meteors were catapulted out of the Oort cloud by the Dark Star, that is to say, the dark twin of SOL. Also, there are still four objects, which were hurled from the Oort cloud by the Dark Star, which belong to the category of comets and are likewise on a path into the inner SOL system.
b:
Then this meteor chain is therefore still very long, and it can, depending on the velocity of the objects, probably stretch out for years and decades, until the last of these space satellites come into the further or closer area of the Earth, if I understood you right. And perhaps, in addition to those from this meteor chain which have exploded over the Earth, are there any others out of the same chain which have passed by the Earth?
p:
This is the case, yes, but I said that already, and it happened repeatedly during the recent decades. And it will also continue to do so, whereby, on the Earth, some events will still occur.
b:
Not exactly pleasant, then indeed still much can be expected on Earth, because it is indeed inevitable that such meteors and comets will penetrate the habitable zone, that is to say, the "Green Zone", that is to say, the "Zone of Life" of the solar system, where, indeed, the Earth is found. In addition to that, then quickly the question in relation to the prophetically announced Red Meteor: does this also come from the Oort cloud?
p;
That is actually right, and if nothing special results which changes its orbit through any emerging unexpected factors or that it is modified by the Earth human beings, then it will result in the prophecies fulfilling themselves.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_150
1981
241. But the truth is, that about 97% of the SOL system comets arise from this belt, like also the planetary bodies passing by this belt upset the trajectories of the materials through their attractive forces, so then these suddenly scramble, which removes isolated larger and smaller objects, pushing them into new orbits around the solar system, where they then appear as comets, while others fly out far from the Sun into free space in order to disappear somewhere in the vastness of the universe, often also as migrant dark planets, which will partly be captured again by bigger celestial bodies as satellites and then orbit them, far away from these new mother stars.
Then only around 3% of all comets in the SOL system stem from outside of it and from somewhere in space.
At that time, you also said that the largest part of all meteorites not only whizzes through our system from the asteroid belt, but that the, by far, larger part comes from the two belts beyond Pluto.
Those space projectiles are then also in overwhelming numbers, which fell on moons and planets and into the Sun and which would still continue to crash down even further on, while only a smaller part originates from the asteroid belt.
244. That is correct, but you were to remain silent about that, particularly with regard to the second belt.
Billy Billy
That's also how I comprehended it
But tell me now: Halley's Comet and the comet Roland, for example, those come as projectiles from deep space, right?
In any case, that’s how I understood it at the time.
Quetzal
247. That is also correct.
248. They belong to the 3% of foreign-system comets.
cc 214
Billy: Billy:
Then I would like to know what will be developed by the terrestrial astronomers and scientists, etc. as a further consequence of the Hubble telescope, this in reference to further surpassing this coming telescope, which should be positioned in Earth’s orbit, namely around the year 1990, as you once said?
Quetzal:
200. First, a similar but better telescope will be built, which will be stationed on the Earth.
201. In the new millennium, however, plans and developments will continue on, and then, the so-called interferometer will be developed.
Billy:
What must one understand by that?
Quetzal:
202. It will be a telescope that will consist of a whole series of other telescopes that are grouped together, which will reveal undreamed-of and unexpected new impressions and insights about the universe to astronomical science.
when the dark star is factored into the apophis path trajectory equation it will show apophis will hit earth, the scientists around the world cant do this yet, nor can they see the dark star but they can work it out mathematically with Beams info and find the 2nd ort cloud (and dark star)
shoemaker-levy9 was from outside our system so not relevant?
Halley's Comet and the comet Roland are defiantly not relevant
if the interferometer is built within 10 years or so they will still have time
can a gov be convinced its a good idea to nuke it as target practice? even if not certain apophis will hit, they got plenty of nukes to spare
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 730
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - 08:53 am: |
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Hey but the future has already been written
The apophis will be destroyed before it impacts earth.
The future has already been written on this one thanks to Billy and the Plejaren warnings.
So some years before the 2036 arrives and if you live that far to witness it, the united federation of countries on combating the Apophis astroid will deflect it through what Ptaah mentioned as the nuclear detonator solution.
regards
Matt |
Thomash
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 05-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - 02:50 pm: |
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> This was in which contact please Matt? |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 275
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - 11:42 pm: |
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G'day Newinitiation
when Billy gives information it dosnt mean not to take action, rofl, we dont know how science finds out the facts
(importantly: at the moment they say apophis will miss earth, translation: scientists have not listened)
Beam says (the future is there but it is not set)
we make the future with actions past/present/future
cause and effect is always in play as they say,i have heard folks say accept the future ey,and not act, but it aint fact, i dont do the Mr Ben Dover pact
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 733
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 12:21 am: |
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Hi Thomas
Thomas its just my wild and unhindered speculation judging by the interest taken by the Russians and the Chinese in setting up a program to deflect this rock thanks to Billy's bulletins.
It's 2013 and we have 23 years left
The way that the momentum has already been gained in Billy's information spreading with a multiplier effect every year despite much opposition and that as Billy stated that by 2029, many people would have accepted his information as being true, I can't see any other alternative scenario other than this Apophis being taken deadly serious within the next 10 years to entertain the idea that the public will eventually see on their nightly news of the Chinese and the Russians setting up the Apophis deflection program.
Obviously anything can and does happen and myself stating with such certainty is foolhardy and I should therefore be careful what I say when I state such things given the enormous numbers of know-it-alls infesting the scientific and governmental community not to mention the great numbers of dumb down willfully ignorant masses who may not help by putting a wrench in the works.
But having said that I won't be surprised given the track record of Plejaren and Billy's information which has already sown the seed of change in regards to the Apophis (through the bulletin) that another bulletin (after the fact) stating the good news that the Russian and the Chinese together with the EU space agency has set up such a program being announced in the future.
But as I said it's all a wild speculation on my part I should in the future be careful not to carelessly state such things with such a language.
regards
Matt Lee |
Thomash
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Post Number: 11
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 08:10 am: |
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> I see. Thanks for the response Matt. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 734
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 10:18 pm: |
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Hi Thomas
Thanks for the understanding Thomas :-)
regards
Matt |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 735
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 10:19 pm: |
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Hi ilovebilly
You are right ilovebilly
regards
Matt |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 280
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, July 19, 2013 - 09:43 am: |
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G'day Newinitiation
your logic shines through and your man enough to admit it, its a good example to all of us mate, we will benefit from your good example
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 740
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| | Posted on Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 03:52 am: |
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Hi ilovebilly
;-)
regards
Matt |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 741
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| | Posted on Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 03:53 am: |
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Hi ilovebilly
correction
:-)
regards
Matt |
Zaqwsx
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Post Number: 45
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Monday, July 29, 2013 - 09:42 am: |
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What about that projectile that accdg to cr 150 will surely hit earth next yr 2014? Is that still the case? |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 745
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| | Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 12:12 am: |
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Hi Zaqwsx
Can you provide the sentence number from the CN150 which states this.
All I could reference is the Destroyer comet, the Red Meteor, the Shoemaker Levi, the Adonids from Oort cloud and the Asteroid Belt.
Are you refering to the 'Dark Wanderer'?
Matt Lee |
Zaqwsx
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Post Number: 47
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2013 - 02:39 am: |
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At last here.
FOM contact report part 4
9792.5 BC - deluge
Special Event: Destroyer rips 7 large asteroids from the Asteroid Belt casting them into various dangerous orbits and which, in coming times, will endanger the earth. One of them probably in (the year) 2014.
Is this still the case? |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 746
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2013 - 09:33 am: |
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Hi Zaqswx
It's not certain whether this remnant of shoemaker levi is the dark wanderer Billy and the Plejaren talked about.
From my memory they said it may potentially wreak havoc but didn't definitively say that it'll crash to earth.
Sorry I can't find the contact note on this one.
You might have to go through David Chance's http://www25.brinkster.com/chancede/Cnotes.html
regards
Matt Lee |
Zaqwsx
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| | Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 03:45 am: |
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Ok thanks matt lee. I'll look through it. |
Michaelhelfert
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As a follow up, here's what NASA purports to be doing about dangerous asteroids like Apophis.
Here's a cute little video showing how NASA wants to 'bag' an asteroid, then send astronauts out to retrieve samples. Inherent in this, of course, would be the alteration of the asteroid's orbit around the sun:
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-nasa-asteroid-video-20130823,0,3903424.story
And another story on nearly the same thing:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2252489/Nasa-plans-lasso-asteroid-size-double-decker-buses-turn-space-station-orbit-moon.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Here's another rumor control piece on how NASA can deal with any dangerous asteroids that might be heading towards Earth:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/19/nasa-asteroid-deflection-near-earth-objects-video_n_3744379.html
Here's a pretty (2 dimensional) graphic showing the paths of all the dangerous asteroids in orbit around our sun. Lucky for us, none are close to intercepting Earth. You might keep in mind that this doesn't map any objects coming in from beyond the confines of our solar system:
http://www.space.com/22369-nasa-asteroid-threat-map.html
Life
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Newinitiation
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| | Posted on Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 05:39 am: |
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Hi All
I hope I am not drawing a long bow here into absurdity but I've always wondered why all of a sudden at the time an inspiration to create a comic book on Apophis was given by the Plejaren to Michael Horn and why it was directed at children and then when I thought about it vola! most tech savvy people were our young youths who have been most responsible for the greatest transformation of the world in modern history.
Take for example Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg, Tim Berners-Lee, and many others.
There had to have been a reason why the Plejaren sent impulses for this comic books realisation and since it's target is children and the topic was on Apophis then naturally the person in the future who is going to be most responsible for diverting this asteroid is still a child at present who may be inspired by this comic book to create a popular app or a software program which will accurately foretell the trajectory of Apophis thereby creating an impetus for government officials around the world to get off their butts and really do something about this impending catastrophe.
The little child is out there somewhere just waiting for that nudge of impulse to stroke his creativity in coming up with a solution for this Apophis crisis.
Matt Lee |
Mark92111
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Hello everyone. I came across this video I think fits into this forum topic and can be of interest.
Japan created and has tested a space cannon to blast into asteroids for mining and research purposes. I feel it's irresponsible. What do you think? What are the drawbacks of this kind of activity?
http://www.voanews.com/content/japan-sucessfully-test-space-cannon/1776217.html |
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