| Author |
Message |
   
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 754
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, August 10, 2013 - 11:51 pm: | 
|
Hi Schantz
You make a good point Scantz and its duly noted
If only you knew what I know then you would at least have another think about Al Gore.
It's not to say that he hasn't done any good and at least he has put the global warming issue on the map.
I don't know Al Gore personally nor have I personally met him face to face and if you have and have drawn your conclusions from meeting the man face to face good on you but obviously you and I have never met Billy Meier face to face either, so what gives?
Logic
Knowledge
Reasoning
Thinking
Common sense
etc etc etc
regards
Matt Lee |
Schantz
Member
Post Number: 177
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, August 12, 2013 - 12:23 am: |
|
Newinitiation,
I'm curious to know with all your...
Logic
Knowledge
Reasoning
Thinking
Common sense
Etc etc etc
...how you're able to determine who I have or haven't met face to face? |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 756
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 12, 2013 - 04:42 am: |
|
Hi Schantz
Without reducing this discussion to some petty egoistic contest just in case you misconstrue my matter of factly speaking as a point of attack against your person, anybody who calls Michael Horn "that Horn dude" give themselves away by their lack of respect and a certain distance that does not reflect a sincere acquaintanceship with him in my eyes.
Now you can call anybody what you want, that is your freedom but words reflect far more than the meaning it conveys and someone who has purported to have met Billy (not you but have you?) would have at least done the necessary study of his teachings to know that common courtesy and a bit of spiritually induced manners such as respect and reverence goes a long way.
I could be wrong and I stand to be corrected but logical reasoning tells me that you have never met Billy Meier in person but are you engaging in some form of sophistry to appear as if you have with your counter question or is this some sort of massive misunderstanding on my part?
If you've met Billy Meier in person then tell it like it is but this wasn't the original point of discussion was it.
Now I will tell it like it is about Al Gore, he is driven more by what he can profit out of this whole carbon credit scheme then about his ethical and moral responsibilities towards nature, environment and planet earth.
He possesses the most carbon credits as an individual than anybody else on the face of this planet unless of course my information is superseded.
He is a business man and business people do business for profit and not for the welfare of their fellow human beings this is just coincidental.
As I said before he has done good so don't get me wrong but when I say that he is a profit hungry scoundrel I mean just that, a profit hungry scoundrel.
Matt Lee |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 756
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 12, 2013 - 08:03 am: |
|
Matt, "that Horn dude" may in fact allude to the fact that Schantz knows Michael personally or it can also be a nod to the positive. It does not necessarily denote any lack of respect.
And what does it matter if one has met Billy or not? If they have, does that give them some sort of authority or we should automatically respect such a person?
Salome,
Bruce
|
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 757
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 12, 2013 - 06:45 pm: |
|
Hi Earthling
You are right earthling it doesn't matter whether people have met Billy in person or not but if you have followed our discussion I did state that "If you've met Billy Meier in person then tell it like it is but this wasn't the original point of discussion was it".
Our written means of communications have its limits but that's the nature of things that we must learn to accept I guess.
Maybe I haven't expressed myself well enough for Shantz and yourself to understand what I was trying to convey.
After all it wasn't about Al Gore per se but somehow it has lead to it.
The point of my thoughts to Shantz after he has brought up the subject on Al Gore was to highlight why it isn't necessary for someone to meet someone face to face to arrive at somewhat of an accurate conclusion about that person in case the usual argument about 'if you haven't met the person how the heck do you know' was brought up about it.
Hence myself bringing up Billy as an example which took
Logic
Knowledge
Reasoning
Thinking
Common sense
in order to arrive at the truth of the genuineness of Billy Meier's contacts without actually needing to meet face to face with him just as I have come to my own conclusions about Al Gore the same way.
Matt Lee |
Darren
Member
Post Number: 344
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 01:23 am: |
|
Schantz wrote -
"Newinitiation,
That Al guy sent me an email three weeks ago about climate change. I has previously sent him an email about overpopulation being the main source for climate change, with a few links to FIGU websites discussing the matter. He is well aware of the overpopulation problem. Too bad you have such negative things to say about a man that has done so much good. But you certainly are entitled to your opinion.
I also hear that Horn dude has been in contact with that Romney guy."
Schantz, Al Gore has done little good but only trying to do good for his bank balance. Profit!
And show a bit more respect for that Michael Horn dude who Billy and the Plejaren say has done so MUCH good! And not like that profit hungry scoundrel Al Gore!
Schantz, I been following your posts here for a while since you been at this forum and I have one question for you - are you a CIA Spook??
Newinitiation wrote "Now I will tell it like it is about Al Gore, he is driven more by what he can profit out of this whole carbon credit scheme then about his ethical and moral responsibilities towards nature, environment and planet earth.
He possesses the most carbon credits as an individual than anybody else on the face of this planet unless of course my information is superseded.
He is a business man and business people do business for profit and not for the welfare of their fellow human beings this is just coincidental.
As I said before he has done good so don't get me wrong but when I say that he is a profit hungry scoundrel I mean just that, a profit hungry scoundrel."
So true!
One only needs to spend a little time researching the matter on Google or You-Tube to see that this is totally true!
Al Gore is a fraud and refuses to debate global warming 10 mins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEPFmwvqdDo
Al Gore's Inconvenient SCAM, Lies versus Lord Monckton Truth and Logic 1.46 mins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElEwhE7B-8o |
Darren
Member
Post Number: 345
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 02:01 am: |
|
Schantz, I retract that question asking if you are a CIA Spook, because if you were one, you wouldn't say yes anyway. Instead I should've just said what was on my mind, and that is, that I wonder sometimes if you are one. |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 345
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 05:46 am: |
|
Al Gore’s partner in crime is Maurice Strong. The carbon credits kings.
CARBON TRADING CONSPIRACY
http://www.greatdreams.com/climate/carbon-trading-conspiracy.htm
That webpage above is extremely well documented on this issue. Al Gore leads to environmentalist Maurice Strong leads to financier Edmund de Rothschild leads to the World Conservation Bank leads to the Euro leads to Climategate. Maurice Strong, formerly a top UN official and leading environmentalist advocate, now a businessman living in China in a building surrounded by barbed wire that can't be interviewed by anyone. Well, if we cant talk to this Maurice Strong, who the heck can we talk to? Seems Maurice Strong is a double agent pretending to be an environmentalist. |
Schantz
Member
Post Number: 178
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 06:03 am: |
|
Newinitiation,
I agree with everything that Earthling dude said.
Darren,
No. But I'm currently unemployed and with Halloween right around the corner you've given me a couple of great ideas. |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 346
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 06:39 am: |
|
Maurice Strong, Al Gore
Creators of carbon credit scheme cashing in on it
By Judi McLeod
Tuesday, March 13, 2007
There's an elephant in global warming's living room that few in the mainstream media want to talk about: the creators of the carbon credit scheme are the ones cashing in on it.
The two cherub like choirboys singing loudest in the Holier Than Thou Global Warming Cathedral are Maurice Strong and Al Gore.
This duo has done more than anyone else to advance the alarmism of man-made global warming.
With little media monitoring, both Strong and Gore are cashing in on the lucrative cottage industry known as man-made global warming.
Strong is on the board of directors of the Chicago Climate Exchange, Wikipedia-described as "the world's first and North America's only legally binding greenhouse gas emission registry reduction system for emission sources and offset projects in North America and Brazil."
Gore buys his carbon off-sets from himself--the Generation Investment Management LLP, "an independent, private, owner-managed partnership established in 2004 with offices in London and Washington, D.C." of which he is both chairman and founding partner.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/cover031307.htm |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 347
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 07:50 am: |
|
continuation from the article above
"It's a strange global warming partnership that Strong and Gore have, but it's one that's working.
Strong is the silent partner, a man whose name often draws a blank in the Washington cocktail circuit. Even though a former Secretary General of the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (the much hyped Rio Earth Summit) and Under-Secretary General of the United Nations in the days of a beleaguered Kofi Annan, the Canadian born Strong is little known in the Unites States. That's because he spends most of his time in China where he works to make the communist country the world's next superpower."
That's why I said before that he seems to be a double agent pretending to be an environmentalist. The building he alone lives in is heavily guarded round the clock be Chinese Police. No one gets to see or come close to him. |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 759
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 09:08 am: |
|
Hi Shantz
But you haven't answered my question
Obviously I am not entitled to it as you have a freewill to choose your response but a no answer is also an answer.
Have you got the courage to face up to the truth by answering my question with a truth or should I just leave it that.
I'll leave it at that as this is not a vile contest to see who wins the argument or who is more right than another but more importantly, it is about stating the truth, uncovering the truth, figuring out what is logical, factual and true and exploring the core of the issues whatever it happens to be for us to learn hopefully.
After all no human being including myself has all the answers and we are all stupid at something.
Matt Lee |
Vincent
Member
Post Number: 26
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 03:51 am: |
|
Why can't simple free energy devices like this be used to help reduce global warming?
These free energy devices are so simple almost anyone can make them using monopole magnets.
Easy to make free energy, perpetual motion machine using monopole magnet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR6Qait2JGY |
Savio
Senior Member
Post Number: 728
Registered: 07-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2013 - 07:13 pm: |
|
Hi Vincent
Yes, this is a simple magic that most likely everyone can perform ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izvitxGgZiQ
Free energy is just a wishful thinking ... |
Vincent
Member
Post Number: 27
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 12:16 am: |
|
Hi Savio,
Thanks for your response!
But I'm unsure if I follow you correctly? Are you saying that it is a magic trick and that free energy is wishful thinking?
If you are, then what about these simply Perpetual motion machines? Some of which are hundreds of years old, one was designed by Leonardo Da Vinci.
If one has perpetual motion, then one can harness free energy from it.
Perpetual motion machines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=287qd4uI7-E |
Vincent
Member
Post Number: 28
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 12:17 pm: |
|
Savio, I thought the link you posted was of another monopole magnet free energy device like the one I posted. It wasn't til after I posted my prior post that I watched that video and realized it revealed the video I put up was a hoax. Sorry about that.
But what about the perpetual motion devices video link I just put up? Are they real? If so, then free energy should be able to be harnest from them.
I'm going to try to make perpetual motion water flask. That's very simple to make. |
Ferbon
Member
Post Number: 328
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 10:30 pm: |
|
Vincent
The subject of perpetual motion is indeed fascinating and has been very popular throughout the ages. Many concepts/prototypes were and probably still are developed. Devices of this sort attained even 90% or better efficiency. Unfortunately all "home-made" machines as such fail due to friction against the surface or air or between any mechanical components.
In chemistry though, there are observable recurring reactions of high efficiency and such which generate heat/energy but are economically not feasible to be produced or maintained or generate waste, decay, or are dangerous - like radioactive decay.
Also, you can find on youtube an interesting project being developed by NASA, where they use magnetic levitation and flywheels to store/recover energy for satellites.
Salome |
Savio
Senior Member
Post Number: 729
Registered: 07-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 10:59 pm: |
|
Hi Vincent
We all learn from our experience but not on somebody’s saying.
Hence information is not knowledge, this is especially true when we are overloaded with information through the internet.
A little search will prove that a monopole magnet does not exist, and yes, a little experiment will also prove to us that a perpetual motion water flask will or will not work as indicated.
In the end of the day, we will aware : there is no free lunch ^_^ |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 835
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 12:46 am: |
|
Sorry to butt in but I've read one of Billy's answer that there is no such thing as free energy.
I would agree with savio, its just wishful thinking.
Nothing is free in this world and the words 'free energy' is a misnomer.
Not only do you have to use energy to create an energy device to tap into the electrons in space but what is used up by the device must also be replaced from somewhere and in this case 1-1 does = to 0.
Dr Greer has talked a lot about these quantum vaccum free energy in many of his lectures but to date no success and neither has Dr Beardens' |
Villatlf
Member
Post Number: 55
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 09:01 am: |
|
Vincent,
Have you watched Michael's film "As the time fulfills"? There, Billy talks about perpetual motion and free energy devices. In summary, it is a myth and they are not realistic. The best option to gather energy right now is geothermal energy, according to Billy (and the Plejaren).
Francisco |
Vincent
Member
Post Number: 29
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 06:06 pm: |
|
Hi All!
Thanks for your thoughts on the matter!
Villatlf, I did watch Michael Horn's two films. They were both really great! Yes, I remembered Billy said something about free energy being a myth but I wasn't sure in what context he meant by it, such as free energy to mass populous is a myth. I thought maybe there is a free energy device that can only create minimal energy to power small items only is possible.
I will put together that perpetual motion water flask in that video and see how it goes and then let all you know how it went. I just need a week or two to get around to it.
Thanks all! |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 10
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 04:50 am: |
|
That should be interesting; perpetual motion (pm) devices do work, but only in their own realm. In other words, a machine can be delicately made to function on its own, but when you put a load on the pm it will stop operating.
I understand your excitement over this pm; there’s nothing iniquitous with experimenting; that’s how new devices are invented, often a side effect of the intended goal. Free energy is like saying that you’re going to get something from nothing. Good fortune.
Sincerely
Kenneth |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 582
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2013 - 08:27 am: |
|
Dr. Steven Greer's financial partner is none other than Robert Bigelow of Bigelow Aerospace. So did he really have no success in free energy or was the success given to his financial partner?
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
|
