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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 904
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 24, 2013 - 04:12 am: | 
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Wow Pendrake its really something I love the illustration.
What is your real name by the way.
cheers
Matt Lee |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 522
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 25, 2013 - 12:12 pm: |
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Bogdan,
There are no new spirit-forms (soul is an outdated word meaning the Psyche) incarnating on Earth anymore, and as a result of overpopulation, the Earth has way more spirit-forms "in cue" waiting in the beyond to incarnate then in necessary, and way more then most most planets have, so the Earth is in no way short on spirit-forms. I am going from memory here, but I think the number "in cue" in the waiting position is 127 billion. My point is though however that for a planet with a Plejaren biogram population count of 8.3 billion (12.31.2012) and 127 billion spirit-forms processing and waiting in the beyond to be born, there is no shortage. The overproduction of spirit-forms generated by overpopulation is another example of our earthly over-excess and disruption of the natural order of things with no forseeable way out except in the far off future to settle other planets and move large numbers of humans to colonies to settle those planets to lower the number in cue.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Pendrake
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 25, 2013 - 04:35 pm: |
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Hi Matt,
glad you like the pic - just couldn't resist posting that one, no matter how hard i tried. :]
Aha you are clever,
Ok i was on the forum before, some time ago. (is nice to take a break and come back to it) But one thing being, i think it's fair to say that you evolve over time with the knowledge gained from the Spirit teaching - so on that front think i did actually need something new on the forum at least (to reflect a sense of it.)
And I was a bit bored with my other forum name, i like these old-world names, harking back to these older historical times, with a bit of the wizard-vibe about them, lol, and seems that there is a nicer flow to them too - so guess maybe tapping into my my old-world self self there a bit. I do in fact, truth be told, like old things in general , like old-bars etc. maybe a bit of that coming to the fore.
but anyhow turning into a long answer to your simple question. that is probably enough of it...but suffice to say i like this new name of mine! so trying it out for a while :]
but call me Sean if you want - that is perfectly fine too.
By the way, just on this subject of names, i seem to recall that the Plejaren do actually have different names other that what we what know them by (i.e. that they are not Asket, or Semjase etc in reality) but that actually they have employed these in order to make it easier for us, and that actually their true names in proper sense would be a bit too difficult for us to get a handle on.) but anyway just a tidbit of info that sprung to mind there.
other than that yeah - insofar as coming back on the forum...there was one thing that was bugging me more than anything else (pertaining to something about the spirit teaching) - so in spite of the fact that i have been dipping into some other threads thusfar a bit unconnected to what i am centrally more curious about - i will maybe get around to it some time soon , maybe next week - the question i have on this topic...which is on the top of my list...maybe time to make more use of the forum...a rich mine of very valuable information surely so.
ok Salome.
or Blessed Be! as the wizards/witches might say :] |
Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 25, 2013 - 11:34 pm: |
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Yes Pendrake,there are elements of truth in many myths and legends,also including Gilgamesh and also Merlin (I found the info in 'The Goblet of Truth' about Merlin and Arthur fascinating).
Bogdan,my understanding is that there are no new spirit forms(soul is a term that is incorrectly applied).Spirit forms are 'recycled'-a crude way of putting it!The pool of spirit forms consisting of those in the 'beyond' which is associated with Earth,together with those of the Earth human beings is finite (unless Et's come to Earth and die here).Hence the problem of an increasing overpopulation,since spirit forms have to reincarnate more rapidly than what is desirable,so their stay in the beyond of 1.52xlifespan is somewhat smaller, which results in the possibility of psychological problems occurring(this may be a rather crude description which I have given re the problems). |
Savio
Senior Member
Post Number: 731
Registered: 07-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, December 26, 2013 - 01:40 am: |
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Hi Bogdan
Welcome to the forum 
It was mentioned that 80-120 Billion spiritforms were available for earth, as compare to the existing earth population of around 8 Billion, our earth would never in lack of spiritform for reincarnation.
Have a pleasant stay
Salome
Savio |
Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 690
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2013 - 08:35 am: |
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There is a quality aspect of spirit-form that are bound to a planet apart from quantity. There are 127 billion+ spirit-form bound to earth, but a fraction of this number are really suitable to be born at this period. Law of Creation don't prefer someone who failed to evolve long long back to be born at this age. Our rapid population growth is not only shortening the time of spirits in the "beyond" realm, but also "forcing" unsuitable spirit to be incarnated at this time.
Bigotry tries to keep truth safe in its hand with a grip that kills it - Rabindranath Tagore
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Vincent
Member
Post Number: 38
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2013 - 08:25 pm: |
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Hi Smukhuti,
That's very interesting and I wasn't aware of that too. Can you elaborate on that a bit more?
Also do you know from the Meier material how many of those 127 billion+ Earth bound spirit forms have not yet had one incarnation? I thought I read somewhere that no new spirit forms can incarnate on Earth anymore due to something to do with the spirit evolution level of Earth has reached the level where new spirit forms are not able to incarnate. |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 11
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, December 30, 2013 - 08:13 am: |
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The tomb of Jesus:
There are several places that have been proposed as the tomb of Jesus, the place where Jesus Christ was buried:
Church of the Holy Sepulcher, Jerusalem, accepted by many Christians and scholars as built on ground on which Jesus was crucified and buried.
Garden Tomb, discovered in the 19th century outside of the old city of Jerusalem, considered a possible site of Jesus's tomb by many Protestant scholars and pilgrims.
Roza Bal in Srinagar, India, a shrine venerated by locals and Ahmadiyya Muslims as the grave of a sage named Yuz Asaf, or "son of Joseph"
Talpiot Tomb, rock-cut tomb in the East Talpiot neighborhood, five kilometers south of the Old City in East Jerusalem.
Tomb of Jesus in Shingō, Japan, where, according to legend, Jesus died, aged 106, after he escaped the crucifixion in Jerusalem.
In the “Talmud Jmmanuel” BEAM said that in 1963 he and Isa Rashid discovered the ancient Aramaic scrolls written by Judas Iscariot, one of Jmmanuel’s disciples, the scrolls were buried under a flat rock in a dirt and rock filled tomb where Jmmanuel (Jesus) was laid, which was located in a cave near Jerusalem.
My question; is this tomb near Jerusalem where the scrolls were discovered recognized as the place where Jmmanuel was laid; if not, does it really matter?
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Sincerely
Kenneth |
Cpl
Member
Post Number: 679
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2014 - 08:49 pm: |
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Hello Kenneth,
"Where Jmmanuel was laid" (for three days) may not have been, and probably was not, where he was finally buried many decades later. Billy didn't mention seeing any skeleton or bones there.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 964
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2014 - 01:09 am: |
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Hi Kenneth,
This was correct: "Roza Bal in Srinagar, India, a shrine venerated by locals and Ahmadiyya Muslims as the grave of a sage named Yuz Asaf, or "son of Joseph"
but ..... someone dug up the body then reburied it in a different but not too far away location.
Why ? ..... to stop any further exploitation by religions to cash in on a "holy relic" or fight among themselves as to who should own it.
So unless Quetzal or Ptaah give out the location it will never be discovered.
Cheers.
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 860
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2014 - 02:40 am: |
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Kenneth , Billy has written that Jmmanuel was buried on a hillside overlooking a body of water , possibly a lake , in or near Srinagar . |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 386
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2014 - 05:53 am: |
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When I was in India, I was told that Jesus's tomb (in Srinagar) had been looted by people from the Vatican a few decades before. Apparently they removed everything they could find. This woulda been perhaps 50 or 60 years ago.
Life
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Vincent
Member
Post Number: 48
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2014 - 03:27 am: |
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Will we ever be able to bring back extinct dinosaurs through genetics from fossils, and if so, when? |
Vincent
Member
Post Number: 52
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 11:35 pm: |
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Hi,
Something don't make sense to me and I hope someone can help. I don't understand why Henok would come to Earth 389,000 years ago so that his spirit form could enter our reincarnation cycle to later on be prophet's for Earth's people, when it wasn't for hundreds of thousands of years later that the Plejaren's ancestors would misrepresent themselves to Earth humans as God's which misguided us and religions started out of it which them put us in the mess that we are in today. How did Henok know 389,000 years ago that his spirit form would be needed here to be Prophet? Did Henok, the high council or AA level look into the future back then to know/see this was going to happen and that's why he was sent here? I couldn't find anything that explained this in the Meier material. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 974
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 11:11 pm: |
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hi vincent
its my take on it but the ets have been here on earth for 22 million years or more so you will have to read some more on our history to get the answer you seek.
all i can fathom at this point is that so much more has happened before 389000 years to warrant such intervention as determined by the spirit levels and henok himself.
matt lee |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 534
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 11:41 pm: |
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It was the same 389,000 years ago that the Plejaren forefathers set themselves up as gods, that is to say the Old Lyrians arrived here 389,000 years ago and intermingled with Earth humans and did evil deeds, including nuclear war. Billy's spirit-form coming to Earth traces back to the mission of Nokodemion millions of years ago saving his people and making them once again be in line with the laws and recommendations of Creation. Nokodemion's people's misdeeds spilled over to Earth through the Old Lyrians 389,000 years ago. Information about this mission is available in the newly corrected Nokodemion book (German only) and sparsely in the contact notes (information about the codex and agreements for the mission of today 13,500 years ago) although I'm not sure what has been translated.
Also if you can read German see pamphlet "Rund um den Kodex" (German only) which explains how the fallible ones had to live a reincarnation line 7000 incarnations long (that is to say live 7000 different and successive reincarnations of their spirit-form and new personalities programmed by the overall-consciousness-block) so they can follow guidelines (Richtschnüre) then today in this new time, this small group can atone for their guilt of 389,000 years ago through self-obligation, hence today the dissolving of the codex. This codex also traces back to the mission of Nokodemion millions of years ago. Henok knew to repair the damage done by earlier generations of his people, he had to join the Earth reincarnation cycle, and it's not just Billy's Nokodemion spirit-form that joined Earth's reincarnation cycle, his people the 144,228 faithful (Getreuer) joined us too, but 13,500 years ago.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Vincent
Member
Post Number: 53
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2014 - 02:31 pm: |
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Hi Corey and Matt,
Ok thanks! I think I understand now.
Does this mean that when Billy's spirit form leaves Earth in the year 3999 it will go to another planet to be prophet where Nokodemion's people's also did misdeeds there like here? |
Joe
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Post Number: 288
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2014 - 02:14 am: |
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Thank you Corey for the interesting information that you have provided. |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 537
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2014 - 10:53 am: |
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Nokodemion's people didn't do any misdeeds. The 144,207 former ringleaders did. Not to be confused with the 144,228 faithful who are Nokodemion's people, who are a separate group of people. Nokodemion's people used to spread the spiritual teaching to all the universes out in space. In the year 3999 the faithful will leave the Earth too but I don't think even Billy knows what is in store for them or himself next.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 112
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2014 - 01:09 pm: |
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Dear Corey,
I think that we now know enough that the codex has been released from these souls, however, we as a group have a long long way to go before this mission is fully completed. I for one would like to say and think that it was all over however, I believe that we are now only in a holding pattern and at a junction, in our spiritual growth with yet so so much to still do and so much to yet relearn. I am just glad that we have had this opportunity to finally know our true past and have a better opportunity and understanding to change our futures forever, in this so called uncertain scheme of things. It's not going to be an easy path for us but it will turn out to be a most satisfying one in the long run of both possibilities/probabilities to come.
Namaste
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Corey
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Post Number: 538
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 03, 2014 - 12:33 am: |
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Bronzedesk,
Billy has always said it's the present time (here and now) that counts, not the past. As for the mission being far from over, I agree with you 100%. It's going to be a long 800 years. You are correct in saying that the mission is only just beginning although it traces back millions of years.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Vincent
Member
Post Number: 55
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Monday, March 03, 2014 - 01:35 am: |
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Hi Corey,
Thanks for that information!
How will all the 144,228 faithful Nokodemion's people be able to leave Earth with him in the year 3999? They would have to be all incarnated and none in the beyond for this to happen? |
Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 113
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Monday, March 03, 2014 - 03:53 pm: |
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"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it!"
Remember that this has been ordained to be an individual thing of total awareness of the divine self. If I am to go forward I must have ultimately first of all, have all my ducks in line! Thus often in order to go forward as a spiritual being one must regress and purposely come to that so called aha moment in time and to say that it is the time for me to change!
For us we have one advantage in this lifetime that was never available before.. that of instant global communication while still being just in the infant throws of ESP!
Right now discernment and a well built perception of the information that is given by billy are to be our keys to the door of our ultimate destinies as well as exercising free will in order to attain and fully understand and accept that which is given to us through the unconditional love and guidance of the P's!
We must go forward with eyes wide open and an open heart, not blindly but boldly to be that guiding light that all others are to follow.
I hope you understand this, I agree we should not use our past as a constant crutch, especially for the here and now and particularly at this time of our spiritual evolution as a whole with that light of billy's as our guiding light!
Namaste
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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