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    Michael_horn Member Post Number: 723 Registered: 07-2009 |
> Exactl as Corey suggests, it couldn't be clearer. If any credible vidence to the contrary appears it should be conisdered but…don't hold your breath. Logic also tells us that a truly advanced race, with all the purported supriorities to terrestrial human beings, has zero reason to be mucking about in the desert, or anywhere else, as these fantasies would have you believe. > | ||
Magic_pie Member Post Number: 45 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hi Michael, I'm moving it here to try and stay in a correct topic area. Thanks for jumping in. I think you might be a little hard on "most people" when it comes to their consideration of extraterrestrials and what is "out there." There is a huge disconnect between the number of science-fiction (Trekkies, Fanboys, etc.) fans around the world and those that are interested in ufology. Don't tell me that all those people you see dressed up as Captain Picard, Commander Spock, Lieutenant Starbuck, or Obi-wan Kennobi at sci-fi movie premiers or conventions have not "...looked up from their Earth-bound lives, have (never) truly questioned the dominant paradigm which holds that extraterrestrial intelligence is impossible (possible), and that people can't (can) figure out how to circumvent the vast expanses of interstellar space." The reason I think you don't see all the tens of millions of sci-fi people around the world embracing ufology is because ufology is a joke. Most people are smart enough to see beyond the outlandish stories by UFO abductees, experiencers, and contactees. Sci-fi fans do not fall for the limited scientific paradigm (mind control) of Greys, abductions, mutilations, implants, Roswell, Area 51... and that is it. Sci-fi fans want a universe of aliens like we see in Star Wars, not just little Greys, reptilians, preying mantis that the UFO community is so limited to. It is a shame that the Meier case gets caught up in the entire UFO circus and more sci-fi fans don't discover it. But this is the way it is for now. Cheers, Anthony | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 563 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Matt, for all I know it was a Hunkarian as Michael states, LOL. I have no physical proof, only a recollection. While on a tour of the west coast we stopped for lunch at Mount Shasta and that's when I found out it was a UFO hotspot. I had no interest in fairy tales and you have to realize that I was never into UFOs until about 4 years ago when I first found Billy Meier. I always remembered seeing this Hunkarian because he seemed so out of place in that small town. It wasn't until I read a contact note that explained about them that I put two and two together. Plus after I went outside to find him, my roommate came up to me shortly? after and said she had been looking for me and couldn't find me. That was weird cause I didn't think I went anywhere. Even though they have left the area, there are still people there who may remember them. As Ramirrez stated trading with local businesses. Don't worry I've told MUFON absolutely nothing, plus I never got pregnant and never got abducted so they wouldn't be interested anyway. Interesting that Charles Hall originally wrote his books as fiction, so probably a lot fiction involved. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 355 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi Justsayno, ok, cool, thanks for letting me know!  | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 802 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi forum members Does anybody here know if Billy had mentioned anything about the Dyatlov pass incident? https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dyatlov&oq=dyatlov&gs_l=youtube.3..0l10.50338.52844.0.53297.7.5.0.2.2.0.91.445.5.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.qpGiO6jHFBA Matt Lee | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 344 Registered: 09-2011 |
It looks as if we are slowly figuring out that the extraplanetary environment is teeming with microbial life. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-truth-is-out-there-british-scientists-claim-to-have-found-proof-of-alien-life-8826690.html http://journalofcosmology.com/Contents1.html This understanding is not without controversy, however. Earth's biosphere is supposed to be a closed system according to at least one religiously held scientific paradigm. Adherents are explaining away life-bound cosmic dust collected from the upper atmosphere as misidentified fine volcanic ash. http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/09/explosive-dispersal-microbes-hitch-a-ride-on-volcanic-eruptions/ Life | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 358 Registered: 09-2011 |
Together the common recognition of intelligence in other species constitutes one of the more profound developments in human consciousness over the past several thousand years. The beauty and wonder of Life, in all its myriad forms, is what it’s all about. - See more at: http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/10/02/humanity-waking-intelligence-nature In a manner similar to the evolution of the mineral kingdom coincident with life on the planet, I do wonder how the entire universe also evolves coincident with the development of the life within it. Matter can age and thus evolve over time, yes, but more overtly, can the structure of the universe itself also be altered by the life that lives within it over the course of time that the DAL and DERN universes use to expand, contract, and then sleep? We already know that bridges between the universes can be built. I wonder what else is possible. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Heimdall_an_der_Himmelsbrücke.jpg Life | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 815 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Michael I had asked Billy a similar question to do with what indication are there that Creation evolves and this is what Billy had to say Newinitiation [Posted January 2013] Hello Billy Billy time and time again your unending eloquent modesty and neutrality in all your conversations speaks enormous volume about the greatness of your character and often puts many a shame on my arrogance, inadequacies, flaws, deficiencies, stupidity and ignorance. May I be rude on this occasion and make such an observation even if I am unworthy of making such a judgment in saying that you are by far the greatest person ever lived on this entire planet and none comes close even to the tip of your fingernails in greatness. In your contact conversations and various other articles you repeat many times that the purpose of existence even for Creation and all it's creations including human being's evolutive spirit, spirit forms, the universe and all things is evolution, development and transition. The fact that everything learns through striving, being, just living in existence and experience through incessant transformation from one state to another under the inescapable laws of Creation and for the human being; learning by striving for knowledge, cognition, recognition, further awareness, and so on. As for the Creations itself I don't know what the clear and visible indication detectable by human beings with technical devices and abilities are inside this course matter fourth belt of our universe even though I think that it is possible. Since human being's spirit forms from human to the petale level and then the merging with Creation all serve an important purpose for further development of Creation and in between these levels of spiritual plane, the spirit keeps learning and developing through gaining knowledge and abilities, I am curious as to what the indications and signs of evidence are in our visible universe that Creation has evolved, developed, improved, gained further wisdom, knowledge, abilities, and capabilities. I am wondering whether as Creation develops and evolves further that the planets, suns, galaxies, super clusters of galaxies, six other belts along with our coarse matter belt shows evidence by it being detectable that certain universal laws such as physics, chemistry, biology, spiritual laws and so on adds further complexities to the already laid out immutable and unchanging laws of Creations, albeit in a different form. I am also wondering whether it is correct to think that through the renewal process of our universe every 40 Billion to 50 Billion years that in this time new petale spirit forms that have merged with Creaton will have a bearing on the form of our visible universe in more improved form and not just Creation's accumulated knowledge which cannot be detected yet and that if we can compare our universe in the state when it was first created to our present state of our universe now, there would be a drastic difference in the number of human spirit forms created, the complexity, variety and numbers of planets, suns, galaxies and matter substance and anti-matter as well as to the laws of physics, volume and density of the dark matter, brightness of light contained in our visible universe, movement, structure, size, spiritual knowledge, information and the thought itself. So my question is what is the exact indication, evidence, affirmation, clue, confirmation, corroboration, cue, data, demonstration, grounds, information, manifestation, mark, sign, and substantiation that we can detect, see, hear, sense, and find throughout our visible universe of the evolution, development, improvement, and change of Creation and it's state. Thank You Matt (In Sung) Lee Answer: It's exactly because of the nature of such exaggerated introductions that Billy stays in the background and doesn't go public. The fact that everything evolves and that there is no standstill in nature and life is proof that Creation does change and evolve. | ||
Curlymoses Member Post Number: 17 Registered: 09-2006 |
Billy: At earlier times, I often spoke with Semjase about the Earth people and about people of foreign worlds. Semjase also used certain terms for the people of the Earth and for those of extraterrestrial origin, like also you and Quetzal and all others of your federation. Thus, there was always talk of humanoids and of extra-humanoids, non-humanoids, and inhumanoids, etc. In this respect, unfortunately, there are always misunderstandings, which should one day be removed from the world. Let me, therefore, explain these things in the way I’ve understood them. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_248 | ||
Curlymoses Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 09-2006 |
Again, here is hyperlink of contact report in which Billy clarifies terms the Plejaren used for the Earth and Non-Earth human. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_248 Wikipedia states: Human taxonomy is the classification of the species Homo sapiens (Latin: "wise man"), or modern human. | ||
Mark92111 Member Post Number: 36 Registered: 04-2013 |
I'm trying to find information relating to the moon and it's effect on the human body/psyche. Using the search option on the discussion board did not bring results. What I notice is that when their is a full moon I feel different in a good way. This could just be a power of thoughts thing and I'm ready to accept that but, if it is related to an actual change it would be very enlightening for me and hopefully others. | ||
Melissa Member Post Number: 110 Registered: 01-2012 |
Hi Mark92111, In my opinion, the moon is a stationary celestial object, which when related to the concept of reincarnation, correlates to constant experience. Therefore, it is a familiar experience when gazing upon the moon, even a full moon. -Melissa | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hi Mark92111, I understand what you’re saying. Look at it this way; the moon is always there no matter what portion of light that it is reflected from the sun. The moon affects the tides in the same manner no matter what portion of the moon is showing. It appears that the cycles of the moon (quarter, half, full, etc.) are more psychological as a person is only seeing indirect light. In asking a blind person if the different phases of the moon was relevant; the answer was no. However, the moon does oscillate on its horizontal axis from about the 1:00 o-clock position to the 5:00 o-clock position and back again in the course of approximately one day. The moon also pivots back and forth about 3 degrees on its vertical axis. Sincerely Kenneth | ||
Mark92111 Member Post Number: 37 Registered: 04-2013 |
According to earth scientists the Moon effects the gravitational forces here on Earth. According to law enforcement (including a family member who is a retired police officer) people are effected in strange ways and crime rates go up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_effect Could it be that there is more going on here that could effect us. I would be interested to hear what Billy has to say to this. Honestly it would just be nice to have a definitive answer. This question is not important in regards to the mission so I will probably hesitate in asking him. Moreover I could imagine he would have said something about this before if there was really something in it. Thank you Melissa and Kenneth for your input on this. | ||
Melissa Member Post Number: 111 Registered: 01-2012 |
Note: When I mention 'stationary', I mean as in Earth-Moon Lagrange points. -Melissa | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 536 Registered: 12-2009 |
Article about neutrinos: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/invisible-particle-could-building-block-201309474.html OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1000 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi All I don't want to beat an already beaten to the pulp dead horse on the issue of crop circles and create more confusion but based on the question below I cannot help but conclude after suspecting this for some time that the crop circles are made by future earth humans. The only difference from Kingman/Shawn's theory from mine would be that those who were influenced by cosmic electromagnetic vibrations were none other than the terrestrial future earth humans themselves and not any among the present who with a much developed consciousness than us may have had the urge to come back to this time to make these crop/field formations/circles as a markers/impressions/clues for future technological discoveries for our subsequent future, but to them, past generations to come. Rei Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 10:35 am: Hello Billy, thank you for the last answer, my next question is about the crop circles. In the 235 contact is said that all the crop circle are man-made, but in the 256 and in the 267 contacts is said that some of them are made from "other visiting extraterrestrial races", and them are "coded pictograms connected to a "coming happening in the SOL system as well as in the announcement of the appearance of the earth strangers, whose ancestors came already in former times to the earth". And, in the 267 contact is said that "some of these extraterrestrial races are not from our space-time dimension, some also come from the future." It have something to do with the "ancient gods ancestor" said by Ptaah in some contact? Salome, Enrico Answer In the 328th contact of July 20, 2002, Ptaah explained that ETs are not involved in the making of the crop circles. They (the P's) first suspected this to be the case, but then detected that cosmic influences are involved instead (influencing the ideas of those who are creating the pictures on computers or by hand-drawing). The crop circles are man-made (terrestrial). There have been UFOs flying above sites where crop circles were made; but they were not involved in the "construction". Some of those UFOs were coming from our terrestrial future. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 993 Registered: 06-2008 |
Wasn't it Me Meier who recently advised to keep clear of Yellowstone National Park and it's volcano ....... http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2014/04/is-yellowstone-national-park-volcano-about-to-blow-is-usgs-lying-to-us-and-the-volcano-is-much-bigger-than-thought-photos-and-videos-2460062.html Cheers. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1004 Registered: 07-2005 |
Ramirez didn't Billy say that it was going to be Mt St.Helens which will erupt very soon rather than the Yellow Stone National Park caldera as a whole or was the HP referring to this one as 'unbelievable disaster' before the civil wars that break apart US into 5 different territories? | ||
Ekr New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2014 |
I know some of you have to be hearing about the flight mh 370, has anyone else thought it could be the dimensional passages that are located in the deep pacific, atlantic, and indian ocean? Taken from chp 7 earth information All credit goes to Futureofmankind.co.uk 7.2.10 Parallel Earth, past Earth Parallel world to ours - 38.168-174 There are seven worlds and seven dimensions in the Bermuda Triangle. One of these worlds is a parallel world to Earth’s current world with only few differences. But, a second dimension is very remarkable because it hides three, nearly similar planets in one line in it. If you travel through the dimensional door, you would arrive at the Earth in another dimension with another sphere of time when the Earth was inhabited by wild flying dinosaurs. You could not breathe the atmosphere without a spacesuit or other protective dress. Because the dimensional door changes in its intensity, it opens into different dimensions and time spheres. Bermuda Triangle - dimension passage - 39.311-325 Semjase pilots her ship to the Bermuda Islands with Meier onboard. She flies low in order to demonstrate for him the dimensional passages that earthly aircraft and ships have been lost in. She explains that this passage is not something that normally exists. It is a passage into Earth’s past, present and future. Sometimes, inhabitants from the future penetrate into the present time. They fly into the middle of an invisible whirl. Behind them, Meier is able to see his own world and before him, he sees something strange, wild, and native. They are at the separation point of the whirl so that both dimensions can be seen at the same time. They enter the dimension of ancient Earth. Meier thinks this is fantastic and is surprised to see Ptaah’s Greatspacer above this ancient world. Semjase talks to her father over a communication device and then her and Meier explore the ancient Earth in her beamship for about two hours so that Meier can take pictures of dinosaurs and the landscape. (See section 4.4.2 for more information) Bermuda Triangle - ETs, natural events and pirates - 33.68-75 The occurrences in the Bermuda Triangle do not originate with extraterrestrials. Certain things exist in the Bermuda Triangle that belongs to extraterrestrial races, but this does not have anything to do with the disappearances of ships and aircraft. The theories of Satan-like forces and other creatures being involved are only fantasies from religious fanatics in an attempt to explain what is occurring there. The events in the Bermuda Triangle can be traced back to very natural things. This area is very suited for high-seas piracy, which occurs repeatedly. In addition, natural dangers also exist there, which have caused ships to be wrecked or sunk along with everyone onboard, never to be found again. Bermuda Triangle - natural dimension doors & ET bases - 34.103-182 There are three different places on Earth where natural dimensional doors periodically exist. These doors are natural occurring dangers that are caused cosmically by time-streams. The doors cause many events to occur because they interfere with the normal time on Earth. The whole sea and ground in this area is in continuous movement, which rises and sinks timelessly. Often, within only a few hours, huge sub-oceanic mountains and plateaus are pushed upwards and change the surface of the planet. Many times, ships have run full speed into the upward-pushed landmasses. This land mass was once the great continent of Atlantis. The dimensional doorway also played an important part in its destruction. The dimensional door represents a natural cosmic appearance, which is a barrier between normal time on Earth and another dimension. The other dimension in this case, is a parallel world to Earth with differences in landscape. The door is evoked by a cosmic elimination-transmutation-radiation, which appears periodically. This originates from several large stars in the universe, which are unknown on Earth. They radiate their beams, which meet 720 light years from Earth and bundle together. These highly concentrated radiations hit the Earth in three places only when it is exactly in focus with the radiations and a dimensional barrier are created. The radiations cause an elimination of normal earthly time by changing it into timelessness. This alteration exists far outside of the center, which is in the other dimension with another world in another time. This causes an effect similar to hurricanes where the center is calm and the surrounding area is a whirl of change from normal time into the other dimension. Normal weather conditions prevail outside of the storm of an alternating zone where the light strata becomes alternated. The first indications of this, is a calm wind, very sultry warmth, and deep silence. This appears the same as the beginning of a new galaxy. The laws of macro-cosmos and micro-cosmos are exactly the same and only differ in size. The processes remain relatively the same, but the forces correspond basically in different ways. At the dimensional door, the forces are pure cosmic energies with radiations of a special sort. The effect of the whirl or spiral remains the same even though the appearance may be different. The Passover zone can be compared to the passage of time between two world-time-ages and into another time, dimension, and world. When an aircraft flies through the Passover zone into the dimensional door, those in the airplane see a world with a strange landscape that they have never seen before. If their aircraft does not have the necessary technology, then they become prisoners of the strange dimension and they are never able to return to their previous world. This is how airplanes disappear in the Bermuda Triangle, never to be seen again. Ships have also disappeared in this way because the radiations and the power of the elimination transformation reaches deep below the ocean surface. The occurrences in the Bermuda Triangle are less secretive than those occurring at the other two dimensional doors. They are known worldwide because of certain dark elements. There are sea-traveling pirates who take possession of ships and kill everyone onboard. The events in the Bermuda Triangle have also been associated with stories of extraterrestrial abductions and satanic intrigues. There are deep-sea extraterrestrial bases in the Bermuda Triangle that are inhabited by the distant descendents of Atlantis. But, they are absolutely peaceful and do not pose a threat to humanity on Earth. Their spacecraft are also seaworthy and are able to dive to great depths. These ships have been seen surfacing and disappearing into space. Ufology groups have worked with religious forces to create stories of good and evil for their followers. Bermuda Triangle, Several worlds & several dimensions - 38.168-174 There are several worlds and several dimensions in the Bermuda Triangle. One of these dimensions has a parallel world to this world with only little differences. Another dimension is very remarkable because it has three nearly similar planets in one line within it. One of the planets is of the Earth in the dimension and sphere of time with wild flying dinosaurs. The atmosphere is not breathable and a spacesuit or other protective dress is required there. This dimensional door changes its intensity to allow for worlds in prehistoric, current, and a future time with a thick white vapor envelope that surrounds the globe. Bermuda Triangle - "dimension portal" - 39.36-44 The dimensional door in the Bermuda Triangle cannot be seen with the eyes alone, but it is possible to make the radiation visible with the viewing screens and windows onboard the Plejaren craft. At the present time, only two courses of radiation are visible on one side of the Earth while the third course is on the other side of the planet. In addition to the trails of radiation, there are also spheres of energy of different types and strengths that circle the Earth at different distances and intervals. They are very important for the maintenance of life on Earth. Bermuda Triangle - dimension passage - 39.312-323 Ssemjase takes Meier to the Bermuda Islands in her beamship so that he can experience what it is like for pilots and crews of ships when they pass into the dimension of the three Earths. It is a passage into another dimension that does not normally exist. Another dimension is of the Earth far into the future, from where its inhabitants sometimes penetrate into Earth’s current time. As they pass into the dimensional doorway, Meier is amazed to discover that nothing can be seen that would indicate a radiation or anything else. He is able to see his own world and before him, he sees something strange, wild, and native. They are at the separation point of the whirl so that both dimensions can be seen at the same time. They enter the dimension of ancient Earth. Meier thinks this is fantastic and is surprised to see Ptaah’s Greatspacer above this ancient world. Semjase talks to her father over a communication device and then her and Meier explore the ancient Earth in her beamship for about two hours so that Meier can take pictures of dinosaurs and the landscape. (See section 4.4.2 for more information) Dimension door near Madagascar - 53. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1005 Registered: 07-2005 |
Or what of the 'raging walls of fire' instigated by an act of war possibly through HARRP or similar scalar electromagnetic pulse weapons by either the Chinese or the Russian against the US? Could this be referring to a volcanic eruption and earthquake set off by such weapons causing massive fires rather than the conventional forest type fires we are led to believe. The area around the Pacific Northwest is mentioned over and over again by Billy and to my sparse knowledge this is near where Mt St Helens is located in Oregon. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 560 Registered: 12-2009 |
Not really sure where to put this, earth like planet found 500 light years away: http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-kepler-186f-earth-sized-like-habitable-zone-planet-20140417,0,7889576.story http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler-186_f Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Bianca Member Post Number: 112 Registered: 03-2009 |
Mark 92111, I can try and answer your querry. In a nutshell, if you would like to understand the matter of how and what happens to the human psyche then you should purchase the book Might of the Thoughts, and with the book the Psyche they complement each other so very well. But, there may be information in the spirit teachings I don't know, however, I read not too long ago in the M of the T. HOW everything absolutely everything depends on our thoughts. Only recently I have overcome the negative feelings from the effects of Full Moon. In fact now it doesn't bother me as it use to. I just asked my husband not to mention to me when he sees the moon so that I won't dwell on it. And in the past few months I have been feeling super regardless. So, yes after all, it is all in our head. We are the creators of our thoughts, feelings and actions! My personal medication for all [ ? ] ailments [discrepancy required, of course] created by our thoughts is simply....for a whole week - to NOT watch television nor listen to radio, find pleasure in happy music create a veggie garden or learn to day dream... I am cured! …Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All. OM |
