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Baselineplayer
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2014 - 08:04 am: | 
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I had an interesting thought today. In the past until modern days, there was not so many that managed to make fire-arms (pistols, revolvers, rifles and automatic guns). Today, actually, everyone who has access to workshops with appropriate equipment, can make these items as well as cannons, rocket launchers etc.
I saw the beginning of that in Afghanistan and Pakistan for almost 30 years ago, and today in Syria.
I guess this age, when these kinds of projectile weapons are so easy to access, it is also no more
control over who has these anymore.
It is plenty with lathes and mills around, even in poor countries, and they are useful as long there are skilled operators.
Just for all discussions of threats about future wars, this may have to be taken into consideration. Just some of the items are not so much about, but it depends on the mindset of the user. Even a peaceful thing as a frying pan can be used wrongly by wrong person.
The point is, that it is definitively not easy to stop deluded people from starting wars from almost nothing, even though their reasons and arguments are clueless, stupid and are outspoken lies.
Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards
/Baselineplayer
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1052
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2014 - 10:08 am: |
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Just imagining how Nokodemjon's multinational/multigalactic peace keeping force would have carried out his decrees to success I would surmise that they did so with hard love meaning killing in self defense had to have been part and parcel of the mission.
The scenario I would imagine probably went something like this.
After the decree was given to arrest all these war mongering mad dogs on the loose the fleeing criminals would've protected themselves against Nokodemjon's androids with their weapons thus giving ample reasons for the peace fighter androids to also defend themselves in pursuit of the mission thereby killing some of them in the process much in the same way that the Timars had killed Ashter Sharen in self defense.
So killing in self defense is more than reasonable and often accompanies it during the noble intention to bring order and justice.
So maybe killing cannot be avoided in these kinds of missions where the criminals force the hand of their pursuers to engage in such last resort acts in attempt to arrest them.
So maybe killing in self defense in a way is tough love but love nonetheless where it is better to kill in self defense these rabid war mongering dogs than to continue to allow them to heinously murder scores of more people, that is, if all attempt to reason and to arrest them fails.
So I gather that Nokodemjon's decree is in essence an act of love for his people even if it means killing a few of them in the process to save a million just as fighter pilots are ordered to shoot down any hijacked plane if it posed a serious danger to many people.
I cannot imagine Nokodemjon's mission not having entailed the elimination of some of the enemy combatants.
I guess such a case would also be the case here on earth where it would be impossible to carry out such a similar mission to rein in these rabid war mongering dogs without incurring casualties on both sides. |
Str0323
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 02-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2014 - 10:30 pm: |
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Can anyone think of any high technology, here on earth, that has been developed solely for the purpose of self defense? Self defense or national defense can be developed without the side effect of dead human beings or psyche torture. With the earth humans of today and their intelligence and know how it is possible.
Salome
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 416
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2014 - 06:17 am: |
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Matt, I enjoyed reading your comments this morning. You are thinking, and causing me to think, so thank you for that. For me, love is not something which is involved in every action in life, just the softest, sweetest, most achingly beautiful ones. Sometimes when dealing with people who will not see something in any other way than their own, no matter how much common sense is made available to them, sometimes when dealing these people it is necessary to break their perspective for the safety of others. This is not love, it's just power, and its use invariably hurts. For a loving being to resort to power, knowing that we are all one, knowing that we will have to live through the same pain that we dole out, this is not an action to take lightly. Sometimes, rarely, it's necessary to use power. When applying it just make sure that you really are on the right side of justice, not just the righteous side.
I have also found your comments about the difficulty of living a spiritual life in a city to be true. And not just in a city, but also on a planet overpopulated and over-utilized such that Life is no longer sacred. Living in the country, having space to actually live, and leaving space enough for the mother-nature/wilderness vibe to grow and evolve on its own, this is so much more grounding than an urban existence. Personally, I miss it so, so much.
Scott, Aikido is an example of a highly developed technique that is only focussed on self-defense. Tellingly, it's graceful too. Psychic self-defense is developed via the calm mental clarity that meditation's practice brings.
Life
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Corey
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Post Number: 574
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2014 - 01:20 am: |
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Scott,
It is possible to use self-defense without causing harm to the aggressor, and that technology is what we SHOULD be developing. Should, but are we? Probably not. At least I can't think of any examples/nations at the moment. We should though, that is what the Plejaren do.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Corey
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Post Number: 575
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2014 - 01:23 am: |
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Matt Lee,
Nice post.
Baselineplayer,
You can make a gun using a 3D printer, at least some idiot did it in my country. What a way to spoil the result of Plejaren impulses (3D printers). Weapons is probably not what the Plejaren would want us to use 3D printers for.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 202
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2014 - 09:09 am: |
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Well it was nokodemion's task to reel in all of the degenerated peoples through logical force. So I'm sure that many people died trying to fight or resist.
Remember Billy said that when animals or people become to degenerated,super aggressive,blood thirsty etc. then one way or the other they will be equalized or possibly(taken care of) to put it in mafia terms. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1057
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2014 - 07:20 pm: |
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Thanks Michael for your deep understanding as I am writing my words from direct personal everyday concrete experiences.
It is not easy to live in the kind of world we do knowing the truth as the luxury of knowing it entails that we conform to the spiritual principles which is anathema to the way the society is currently structured and degeneratively function as.
To thrive in today's society and for those who have seeming adjusted very well to a maladjusted society seems to be the one's with personality and character traits most in line with psychopathy and sociopathy with little empathy and sympathy for the plight of other people and for various forms of life.
I don't want to use such a word but in everyday speak the burden, yes that's correct, the so called 'burden' of knowing the truth entails a lifetime contract where there is no going back and the further you progress with the spiritual teachings the more acute one's sense of conscience is so much so that even killing an insect pricks one's conscience.
So in a world where the masses plays by a whole different rule you are constantly bombarded by situations where conflict of conscience arises from particular conditions being forced by the hand of other people where you are damned if you do and damned if you don't if you get what I mean.
It's vague I know but that is the gauntlet thrown in by the veil of ignorance having lifted from one's eyes.
Looking over the fence it sometimes appears more greener over there of the ground the ignorant masses are standing on as 'ignorance can sometimes be blissful'.
Well at least they can claim ignorance every time they fall whereas us we don't have such a luxury.
Gees I am ranting here I'll stop there. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1058
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2014 - 08:21 pm: |
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Blake then maybe this was what Semjase was referring to when she stated bluntly to Billy that logical force had to be used to wrest power away from these blood thirsty criminals and scatter these Hebraonian alliance (my emphasis- into a thousand pieces before the wind)
This logical force would entail just as you pointed out 'taking care of' them.
I don't think using only forced nonviolence or forced forcelessness is going to do the job unless the whole population can manage to rise up against these Habraons.
I mean just thinking back to when I witnessed 500,000 Australians engaged in a mass rally through Swanston street Melbourne back in 2003 and how useless that and other peaceful protests around the world against the invasion of Iraq was in the long run there is no other way other than some form of violent uprising to unseat these Dark Order group within a group types from power. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1059
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2014 - 08:38 pm: |
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Corey if my memory serves me correct Billy and Ptaah mentioned high precision electronic mind control technologies imbedded inside computer monitors and TV.
Maybe a beefed up version from the secret black budget special access programs have already utilised it in their fake alien abductions where those who were unfortunate enough to get an anal probe account for missing time and lost or falsely inserted memories such as what the GIs did to Betty and Barney Hill and Travis Walton.
Maybe this telenotic electromagnetic pulse hypnotic and mind control nonlethal weapon is probably the closest thing to an ideal nonlethal weapon of choice where just as hundreds of scared Iraqi soldiers fleeing Kuwait back during the 1990 invasion had experienced, these scalar type Tesla weapons would be much preferred over lethal ones that kill. |
Baselineplayer
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 08:36 pm: |
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Corey,
Yes, you can make a handgun in a 3D-printer, but I don't think the quality is the best on it. That's still more like an accessoir than an efficient gun.
What I mention as the core, is the availability of the whole (old) technology behind workshops and their machinery as in many countries like Syria, Afghanistan and Pakistan, there this kind of machine inventory is perfect in making guns and rifles of good quality.
It is much tougher challenge to manufacture a car than a gun, because the machinery of a car is much more complex with many more different parts that have to act together. Think about our combustion motors, that are of old technology with all parts, it's made up by.
Guns are of even older technology, and already in 13th Century, maybe a locksmith, made the first type of gun. The technology reminds a bit like that used for making locks/padlocks.
In many places, that is of a surprise, people are able to support cars with spare parts, and even build complete cars. In same kinds of countries, there is often unstable in politics, and these workshops are then very easy to support production of several types of military useful hardware.
Compared to these types of better quality workshops with rather powerful and precise tools and machinery (even if it's old and second hand), the 3D-printers are more inclined to precise works with smaller parts in often more soft materials. I do see the 3D-printer having a far better use for more civil use than to produce sturdier and heavier military hardware. It is much easier to make parts to a pace maker for the sake of heart with a 3D-printer, rather than try to copy a Colt Peacemaker .45 through it. The copy of Colt belongs to an old classic workshop through that kind of machinery.
Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards
/Baselineplayer
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Hawaiian
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Post Number: 207
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 09:33 pm: |
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Can anyone think of any high technology, here on earth that has been developed solely for the purpose of self-defense? Self-defense or national defense can be developed without the side effect of dead human beings or psyche torture. With the earth humans of today and their intelligence and know how it is possible.
Str0323,
Interesting question, why high technology, unless it is used to trigger the subconscious into EMP action or response to danger or perceived danger from some outside force? Since the means for self-defense is already embedded in each of us through the material subconscious that regulates the material entity for life and depending on the psyche level of the individual, actually will act to defend that person as evidenced by the experiment done by Semjase and Billy when they probed Mr. G’s subconscious and got a dangerous feedback pulse that could have killed both of them had they not taken precautions.
It is true that one’s subconscious “plans” future events for the material being because it records all inputs that the material conscious are not aware of and will also “plan” future events to counter-act influences or actions that are detrimental to its host personality especially if such actions or thoughts are harmful and not warranted. Depending on the condition of that person’s psyche, if they are well balanced and creational in nature, sometimes these future counter-action events are presented to the material conscious in dreams before they actually happen. I personally have seen this occur more than a few times and was puzzled at the beginning but learned to accept these “viewings” after analyzing the reasons behind their occurrences which has been an act of self-defense, unfortunately it still occurs because there are fools who still try to impose themselves on others for no good reason but selfish endeavors.
It is best not to wish ill will towards these degenerates as doing so becomes a problem for your psyche’s balance, let the subconscious decide what action to take, since it knows all the details, let it balance the outcome. Depending on the issue and severity of the offence, the outcome can at times be very dramatic and deadly. I think there was a posting which described such an encounter that I posted a couple years ago?
I was going to ask Billy about this, but figured it out as time and experience went on. However it may be an isolated case, but such matters can be developed much further if the technology to induce such “experiences” to trigger or “trick” the material conscious (similar to Mr. G’s experiment) by inducing selective individuals for targeting in their dream states especially for those who have little control over their material consciousness and are religiously degenerated for easy manipulation.
For example if I was an evil ET with the necessary technology similar to the Plejaren’s access to one’s subconscious and wanted to take them out. It would be a simple process to create a dream scenario where that material personality will be put into a very dangerous situation, a death dealing event to target some Plejaren by inducing him/her to be the aggressor and let their subconscious be “tricked” into some counter measures to induce an EMP force against the Plejaren or other targeted individual. There are many such personalities on Earth especially those still linked to the Plejarens when they were spirit-forms of the 144,428 and such experiences are stored into both memory banks here and on Erra.
Now, to further the damage into other realms of existence, in theory it could be possible to time travel into the past when the High Council was in material form and also target them for destruction or at least “knock them out”. Not sure if that is possible, but there seems to be some influence when Justitsu gave the wizard a battery operated penlite and thought him how to electrify the door knob when they traveled in the past with Asket and Billy. If such measures are valid, then maybe the different levels in the non-material realms need to take notice and once again partner up to prevent such dangers if they are to occur.
These types of events are much more dangerous than any particle beam weapons and have far reaching consequences that spans universes and maybe even the very existence of Creation? Just my opinion |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 33
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 08:18 am: |
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Technology in this area is continually improving; Aerospace companies are now using 3-D Printers to manufacture parts for flight hardware; specific parts for rockets that put satellites into orbit or deliver supplies to the International Space Station. The 3-D Printer makes these parts from stock plastic, aluminum and steel, depending on the requirements. A Peacemaker .45 would be a challenge; springs, riffling (helical groves of harder metal) and firing pins would be the issue; I would not fire a weapon made from a 3-D Printer. |
Hawaiian
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Post Number: 208
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2014 - 03:15 pm: |
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I don't want to use such a word but in everyday speak the burden, yes that's correct, the so called 'burden' of knowing the truth entails a lifetime contract where there is no going back and the further you progress with the spiritual teachings the more acute one's sense of conscience is so much so that even killing an insect pricks one's conscience.
Newinitiation
Yes, unfortunately that is true especially so when that evolved being is within the same confinement environment as degenerates who engage in barbaric endeavors so that it imposes or forces these evolved beings into becoming or more accurately speaking, reacting to similar degenerate behaviors just to survive. It’s the unfortunate response to “kill or be killed” to become a necessary evil in order to counter-balance the evil that surrounds you. We cannot just fly to a different planet as how the Plejarens and others did during wars in the Lyrian/Vegan systems.
It brings a very interesting dilemma of sorts that can actually provide a solution to not just Earthly matters but also for those of higher evolutionary status to include the Plejarens as well since it is a known fact that there are spirit-forms currently incarnated on Earth with similar potential evolutionary status (30 million years) as the Plejarens who will have little or no qualms in applying logical negative force in order to counter-act or balance the evils that others impose on others if they are forced to do so without the slightest hesitation in comparison to the Plejarens who would probably sit back and do nothing since they can always flee to another planet.
However that may not be the case, if the theory holds true on my previous posting regarding manipulation of the subconscious with proper technology techniques that are not limited to light speed parameters that ET’s have access to, especially degenerate ones similar to those that created the “eye of god” destruction. So that leaves the Plejarens with a dilemma, should they do their prediction analysis and determine if such events are to occur and counter-act it or remain neutral and hope for the best that such events do not happen?
The time to strictly adhere to slightly positive neutrally balanced living may not be enough for the survival of the human species when there are others who are degenerates and strive for power lust and evil even to the extent of destroying planets and whole galaxies, setting back the creational evolutionary status for billions of developing spirit-forms often overloading the innocent ones whose planetary evolutions is set back because of the intrusion of “foreign” spirit forms from destroyed worlds causing a type of “overpopulation” status not of their fault, but because of a few degenerates who should have been “taken out” before “allowing” such disasters to occur. It is much more prudent to remove the cancer than let it spread to kill not only the host, but the entire environment that it resides in.
There are preventive measures that are not currently available for Earthly scientists but can be applied to these conditions by those who have such technology at hand as the Plejarens do. One such experiment could have been conducted by Queztal using androids as in the past, by would have been much more valid and accurate if they applied it to the 2100 Giza Intelligence degenerates while they were still living on that prison planet.
He could have manipulated their dreams so that a reversal character role are applied in order to give these degenerates the necessary “experience” of being the victims for a change and see if it resulted in a positive change of character instead of letting them plot another assignation attempt on BEAM. After all, what good is incarceration without proper treatment? For the real serious cases of those really bad evil cases, maybe putting them in a situation where they becomes helpless and about to be executed so that their material conscious becomes acutely aware of the dire consequences that their conscience finally becomes dominant after all other sensory perceptions are extinguish and rebels, causing extreme guilt and remorse, but at the last moment allow them to awaken from this induced nightmare, which appears at first to be barbaric, but in reality is actually a positive action if the resulting experience produces a change in the personality which was previously evil.
Influences should not only be positive in nature, but can also be negative to positive as well, because a negative to a negative person is actually like a positive to a positive personality, depending on which prospective one is engaged on. Remember when Billy had no recourse but to punch and give Jutitusu a bloody nose when he got all hysterical anticipating meeting his “savior-the son of god-Jesus” who was actually Jmmanuel? That “negative” action was a positive influence on him and Asket agreed after thinking about it.
However if such measures do not produce such results, then maybe it the experiment could be applied using a longitude application by performing a future time sequence to determine the prediction parameters of that particular degenerate to see if future incarnations will only produce a continuation of more evil, then maybe in the interests of the evolutionary environment of others a case against this spirit form could be presented to the High Council, who can persuade the Arahat Athersata to forgo incarnation of such spirit forms as was done during the Nokodemodem’s decree, since the Plejaren have origins of such lineages, their request have validity, if only they have the capacity to do so, that remains a question to ponder. |
Sarah
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Post Number: 236
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2014 - 10:38 pm: |
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I like to see where Billy predicted 3D printing. It would seem like a relatively mundane thing to try to predict. That's something anybody could see. Natural tech progression.
I am noticing activities with Russia. But remember the future can vary slightly. |
Cpl
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| | Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 09:09 pm: |
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But who did actually predict 3D printing other than Meier? We have to remember he is anything but a techie.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 419
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2014 - 05:58 am: |
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For those of you who want to fault Russia for accepting the democratic request of Crimea's annexation, please keep in mind that this same process is occurring in the United States, Australia, and parts of Europe right now. Namely that an external population is being imported, a process primarily driven by the superimposed morality of the unmentionable group, using any excuse and means possible, either displacing or integrating away the people who established the country. Ultimately, weakened States and possibly balkanization (as with the U.S.) are the predictable outcomes.
Not that I agree that Russia is attempting to retake control of the Ukraine, but I do still foresee the possibility that Russia will expand through Azerbaijan, possibly Georgia and Armenia, and then Iran. Russia wants to be a sea power like America, with an open-ocean warm-water port. It really, really wants this. Russia's ambitions have thwarted somewhat by America's reinforcement of governments and jihadists, notably in Pakistan and Afghanistan, possibly in Chechnya and Dagestan, and more recently in Kazakhstan, with Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan mostly left in the lurch. Still, the Caspian is actually quite shallow. If Iran could offer to lease to Russia a barren corridor for say 200 years, until antigravity is well established, this would ease some of those country-destroying ambitions.
Iran has been a peaceful State for most of its long history, and has acted as a centering point for Semitic culture. It has been able to hold on to so much of it's history, and will continue to do so as long as it isn't destructively taken over by scheming radical Muslims, scheming paranoid Israelis, or scheming expansionistic Russians. As long as their society remains relatively free and progressive, loosing Iran would be a huge loss for all of mankind.
Keeping peace on planet so full of ambition is a full time job for an entire unthanked segment of our population. If only everyone could just agree to take a breather from their respective designs for a few centuries, until we all get to where we have enough whatsits and whatnot, then we could move forward so fast it would make everyone's head spin.
Life
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1065
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2014 - 08:24 am: |
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Hawaiian I don't know about the full extent of the Plejaren intervention here on earth to the extent the Creational natural laws allow them to engage in even with the new exceptions allowed by the High Council but since everything happens behind the scene we cannot know for sure and also since they've said they cannot directly interfere, maybe it really does mean that they cannot directly interfere.
Maybe it is just the sign of our times and one that we must go through to get to where the Plejaren are but I guess even these war mongering criminals have an important role to play who provides the impetus and the needed test and challenges for the humanity as a whole to graduate from.
So basically we are all in this together them included. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1067
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2014 - 09:36 am: |
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Hi All
I am speculating that the plutocratic Dark Order kleptomaniacs will use there last remaining card left to bring about their final solution to eradicate huge numbers of people when the unsolvable overpopulation has reached it climatic point of 10 billion people.
Since it's an open secret and one that Billy and Plejaren have discussed years ago the so called fake 'alien invasion' scenario which has been worked upon for decades might finally come to fruition sometime in 2020.
Matt Lee |
Vincent
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 03:29 pm: |
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Hi Newinitiation,
Wasn't that fake alien invasion scenario supposed to be the U.S.'s plan? And isn't the civil war and break up of the U.S. supposed to happen in the year 2020? How could these two things happen around the same time when the U.S. will have it's hands full with major problems trying to hold it's own country together? |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 420
Registered: 09-2011
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This is the first I have heard of the 'new exceptions by the High Council".
This is big, Big, BIG news for me!
What are these new recommendations for engagement?
When and where did this get announced?
How can I find out more?
Anything the High Council does has far-reaching implications.
Life
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1071
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 01:59 am: |
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Hi Vincent
Well as far as I could gather or have read the super entity (the so called Dark Order group within a group plutocratic kleptocracy) with access to these secret black budget special access program Alien reproduction vehicles (ARVs) are international in scope encompassing many special interest groups from governmental, intelligence, finance, banking, military, industrial and commercial sector who aren't royal to a nation or country but only to their own interests.
I could be wrong but according to my own research on this matter it is not US government per se nor only US citizens involved and the US as a country and the secret facilities in it is conveniently used like a tool by these Dark Order group within a group factions who play off against each other for world supremacy.
So by definition it isn't the US plan any more than it is Canadian, Belgium, Chinese, Russian, Argentinian, Antarctican, or Australian.
I don't know whether the civil war in the US will definitely happen by 2020 or onwards but according to Billy it all depends on what happens after 2020
So maybe he is referring to politics or whomever comes after Jeb Bush in 2020 who will decide the fate of USA.
You asked 'How could these two things happen around the same time when the U.S. will have it's hands full with major problems trying to hold it's own country together?
Vincent I am no expert and it is just my own conjecture, speculation, views, opinions and conclusions but when you consider how the masses are so easily led not to mention so much talk going around about civil war in USA; the increasing brutality of police and homeland security; the increasing resentment against the corrupt politicians and the rich; the growing awareness of the truth by the masses; the increasing desperation of the regular folks who are losing everything they've got; the increasing gun ownership of citizens; the growing disparity between the rich and the poor; the falling value of the dollar; the brazen theft of the middle class from the predatory corporatocracy; the expansion of government and harsh laws they enact against the citizenry; the increasing division between ethnic minorities; increasing power of the drug cartels; the continued flooding in of illegal aliens; the near complete police state; the increasing orwellian surveillance on the masses; the increasing false flag operations perpetuated by the intelligence and government apparatus; the increasing cost of living; the increasing poverty; the increasing unemployment; the decimation of the environment; the increasing environmental catastrophes and natural disasters; the increasing buildup of negativity and negative collective thoughts and much much more is creating the ideal causes for the self fulfilling civil war effect.
Basically I think you have nailed it and answered your own question.
cheers
Matt Lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1072
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 12:56 am: |
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Hi Michael
It can be found in contact 567
http://beam2eng.blogspot.kr/
Bruce Lulla is doing a fantastic job over there with his blog in doing some of these translations so thanks to him.
Of course as always thanks and appreciation should also go out to our dear friends of FIGU Dyson, Vivienne and Vibka for the same translation, checking and correction work.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_567
And yes Michael the high council gave that permission to the Plejaren to enable them to probe deeper according to the information
Cheers
Matt Lee |
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