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Michael_horn
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Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2014 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> Yes but it won't help when the foods themselves are devoid of taste/flavor.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aaaahhhh catch-22 standing on a no man's land I see...
I'll look for substitute pleasures elsewhere whilst leaving it all up to my stomach from now on.

I am suspecting that through the copious amounts of MSG they use here it may just be one factor among many.
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Marbar
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Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2014 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With the Fukushima disater, does that mean it is not safe to swim in the Pacific Ocean?

I just wanna know.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2014 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Marbar

Taking precautions doesn't hurt and one can get by without needing to swim in the beaches but it's up to every individual what is a sensible thing to do given the reality of the Fukushima disaster.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/28-signs-that-the-west-coast-is-being-absolutely-fried-with-nuclear-radiation-from-fukushima/5355280
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Hunter
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Posted on Friday, April 11, 2014 - 05:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,
I've switched to an organic diet, mainly just for the meat I eat, but I notice the taste is far superior. The organic fruits and vegetables can set on the shelf too long and can thus lose some of their "potency." But the main reason I switched is because I'm doing a detox program due to the mercury fillings I had in my mouth, but electro-dermal screening also showed I had prions in my brain.

I don't think there's any way you can avoid them unless you switch to organic/free ranch meat. Sure, it's more expensive, but then so is losing your health.

And there are ways you can save on costs. For example, finding local farmers who treat the animals right. But I'm still just amazed at the greed of the big farms and their thinking that feeding dead cows to other cows made sense. Just amazing.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2014 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hunter

long time no talk :-)
Yeah I agree these greedy farms and whore for money farmers just don't care about the animals nor the customer's health who they endanger by pumping copious amounts of antibiotics and feed other dead animals to live animals.

The words 'organic' is just too flexible a term and it could be used as a euphemism that suits the producers and growers to charge more for what is otherwise an inferior non organic (real term) product.

Don't take my word for it but in regards to the organic food here in Korea its basically unregulated even though on the surface it is and the chicken you thought was organic bought at the markets was cage grown and most can't be bothered reporting it to the authorities because of the hassle and a slap on the wrist fines.

As they say the s*** falls downhill and basically every sector of society from the politicians to the street cleaners are governed by, work on, function and flow with deception, dishonesty and copious amount of lies so you are having to depend on people shockingly dying from a scandal in order for a small incremental progress from the masses being moved and outraged now and then.

So getting back to the good advice you gave it really would be ideal for our foods to be produced normally again just like in the olden days when it was a given rather than the exception.

But I am afraid the whole organic industry can't be trusted here because there is hardly anyone who is willing to do the right thing when it concerns profits and monetary rewards (of course not all).

Just as an example in a country that I am in with basic staple being rice, how would you be able to as a customer to tell the different between a real organic rice and pesticide, herbicide, fungicide and DDT ridden rice grown in toxic fertilizer ridden soil unless you actually take samples and take it to the lab every time you purchase rice.

Our nightly news here is full of scandals day in and day out and these are just the small fraction that has been reported so could you imagine what the true state of affair is that goes unreported.

This is how it is I guess in the 21st century
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Hunter
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Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,
Yes, you always have to do your due diligence. But it really comes down to the farmers you deal with. You have to know them and know that they have a commitment to doing things the right way. As far as regulation, well, it's far from perfect. Most of the farm practices here are approved by the USDA, yet they're incredibly unhealthy (pesticides, antibiotics, etc.). The push for organic came from the public, not the government bureaucracies.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hunter

I think it's a very sensible approach you've taken and one of the best options available if you can make something out of it

Thanks for the suggestion Hunter I am sure that out there somewhere in Korea there may just be an honest and upright farmer who is into real farming.
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Bianca
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Posted on Friday, April 18, 2014 - 06:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since diet and good health are my passion, I can tell few points: If truly organic food is really organic it must be Certified and has a stamp of an organisation.
Fair Trade though, seems to me a one big farce/lie ! ei: 250grams coffee cost aprox. $12.oo - I would like to know where is all the money going, in reality how much are the farmers getting after slaving for the occupiers ? I think its an unfair trade and don't support them even though the face of the farmer smiles at me from the packet.

Since having few health problems myself, I have been searching the net for real information that can I use, and I must admit it takes months to find the right one, but once I have found it - I try it and I am getting better.

If anyone is interested to read about children and adult Vaccinations or Vitamin C and its cures, send me an email i can forward you few links. [brecht777@gmail.com] I have bought Phd papers, etc. so that I can learn myself. I have a selection of great websites that tell it as it is without embellishing their material. Even Pub Med the medical website is referenced yet doctors don't know that much truth lies there.

How many people know about Calcium lies? Headaches, brittle bones, fractures are the sad outcomes from consuming dairy. Somewhere in the CR, Ptaah mentions that milk is in fact bad for our bones.

Yes, our environment is so polluted, and getting worse, the food has no flavour however, the organic produce when grown indoors in hothouses also lacks the full flavour compare to produce grown under the natural sun. Yet, Biodynamic food is still better than most as they follow the Steiner methods and the rise and fall of tides and the moon phases, interesting science. When I buy produce I make sure to buy those that are small and contorted and I don't mind the occasional worm, I take it as a positive sign that if it tastes good to the worm, then that little creature can be my 'culinary taster'!

The other point most people forget, is that when they are young - they don't mind getting ill occasionally and see it as part of daily life, but in truth it should not be happening at all because over time our bodies accumulate so many toxins topped with added fluoride in our water and medications. Then one day when we develop a disease we are baffled by its severity, scratching our head trying to figure out - why? We forget what we did all those years thinking we are invincible when we are younger, then when those 50s start knocking... we begin to take stock because the body is not so 'springy' any more.
I just discovered that root canals are known amongst the dentistry bodies to cause heart problems! phew!
Breast milk contains... the worst herbicide there is - Roundup. What future does the baby have? I am scared to imagine.

Almost every week I read about new discoveries that the pharma refuses to release. Discoveries that went through rigorous testing over years and have been proven to work and heal, especially Vit. C. and many were conducted in government hospitals. That said, I think, the pharma knows it is loosing its grip and that is why it is so indiscriminately polluting our bodies and our minds. But people are getting smarter however not the young ones in their 20s, they still gobble anything they hear in the media and gossip places.
I still maintain that when the brain is foggy and toxic, we cannot function as well as we should no matter how many times we go over and over the same material, the telemeters simply don't connect...

To Health,
Salome Bianca
…Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All.
OM
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Friday, April 18, 2014 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bianca

Yummy wormies and my dummy tummy
Unbeknownst to most, people consume far more of these little critters than they assume but everything turns to flesh and blood so like yourself people shouldn't panic at the sight of these 'culinary tasters'.

It's weird how things have contorted and twisted into such a farcical state of affair especially regarding the production of our foods.

Basically everywhere you go the farmers are being shafted up the you know what by the predatory middlemen where there are I believe 3 to 4 layers which includes the distributor before it ends up at the supermarkets where the consumers are also shafted up the you know what by being forced to pay hyper inflated prices which is essentially commissions on top of commissions.

So the only way that the farmers can survive is to cut corners by using more toxic but cheap chemicals imported from developing countries.

Their hands are forced by the market forces and the predatory practices of big conglomerates who exploits these hardworking farmers out of business who then have to join the 'I can't beat that crowd' by being cunning and calculating themselves by adopting the same strategies and cunning business methods all revolving around money of course.

So in the case of Korea with cheap imports flooding the market the farmers are having it tough because farming is capital, land and labour intensive with ever so increasing fuel costs and fertilizers even with the government subsidies not to mention the exodus of their children to the bigger cities for other opportunities compounding labour shortages.

The lands where their forefathers grew up and roamed free in are eventually sold out to various interests who want to build factories and manufacturing facilities with the effect being that the country no longer has the capacity in labour and as well as arable land to fully sustain the nation's population but must inevitably rely on imports.

Some years back I did some contract work for Coles, Woollies, Farmer Jacks and IGA and had the opportunity to roam the isles of shelf full of various products as a non-customer and frankly I was dumbfounded, shocked, disgusted, mind boggled and exasperated seeing it from that fresh perspective and out of the box view.

The stark realisation was that these isles upon isles of products from where I used to purchase without thinking were simply 'RUBBISH' I mean absolute 'TRASH', I couldn't believe it, I just could not believe that the whole engine that drove this multi billion dollar industry centered around and sustained by unwitting consumer cows like myself gobbling up 'RUBBISH FOOD'.

I was simply awestruck at the level of stupidity of we the consumer cows propping up these conglomerates at the expense of our health.

Having said that not all products they carry are bad but my point being these places should also be looked at as one of several reasons why people's butts are getting as big as an elephant, their tummy as gigantic as a whale, their legs as thick as a tree trunk and their health as bad as an underground coal mine.

You are hard pressed to find anything there that is free of pesticide, herbicide, fungicide, colouring, preservatives, artificial flavours, additives, MSG, BHT, flavour enhancers, hormones, antibiotics and over 3000 other exotic but toxic bad for health chemicals.

Not to be outdone is fast foods or what the Russian would term 'rubbish', from Macdonalds to Hungry Jacks to Red Roosters to KFC to Subways to Pizza Hut to Dominoes to Chinese takeaways and a whole bunch of other franchises producing a nation full of big arsed hippos and whale like children.

We are definitely in trouble in these troubled times.
As anyone exposed to the Meier material can ascertain without a sweat, because of the environmental, overpopulation and climatic catastrophe there will definitely come a time when we face worldwide food shortages and the chemicals in our foods would be the least of our worries then.

And about the Big Pharma, this deserves a whole new post, these cunning illness producing bastards!
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Friday, April 18, 2014 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All

I don't know why or how but it seems as if as Billy had mentioned regarding 'new discoveries' being made synchronously on different parts of the world simultaneously, it goes without saying that this may also apply to not only natural disasters but human caused accidents and manmade disasters such as what happened in Korea with the sinking of the passenger ship 'Sewol' and others just days and weeks apart from the Mt Everest avalanche to the Washington landslide disasters among so many others.

These disasters seems to happen in one long spurts, one after another and then another.

What could be the causal factor of the runaway cause and effect in perpetuity behind these events be besides the all too familiar 'man' and his irrationality/irresponsibility as the main cause of all this which has sown the initial seed of happenings taking place all too often.

Is the origin of disasters within man's own consciousness with the genesis being the spark of his thoughts sent out across the ether that gets picked up by other people whose fate is then sealed through unconscious prompting by it that leads to such disasters.

Why does one such event follow closely by another with inactivity in between followed by the same pattern of events unfolding again and again.

Could it just be that there is nothing to it and that it's within the laws of probability that such events are bound to happen through normal propensity of people to make mistakes and errors of judgement and because of our easy access to the internet to hear of such stories.

Observing the pattern of nature and how it works its clear that if everything is in incessant movement things are bound to collide and clash.
If things go up they must also come down.
If things are built then it's inevitable that its gonna get broken.
If people overlook safety at the expense of profits S will definitely HTF eventually.
If people don't learn any lessons from history obviously the repeating history will come back to haunt by giving people another one of those same lessons.

As much a tragedy this disaster was and all condolences should go out to the surviving relatives and family for their tragic loss, some pertinent question needs to be asked amid this sadness in that 'where were you when the hundreds of thousands of crying Iraqi children begged for mercy to relieve themselves of starvation, malnutrition, incendiary bombs, flying bullets and tortuous injuries sustained through act of barbaric wars and wars of sanction', 'where were you when the poor Syrian children were being gutted by extremists and terrorists hell bent on destroying their country', 'where were you when the children of Fukushima was pounded by the raging walls of water over their heads and their lifeless body being carried away out to sea', 'where were you when even in your little neigbourhood where unfortunate children attending the same school as your kids just passed your short attention by', 'where was your concern for your country when corrupt criminals were voted into office overseeing some of the most important institutions that made decisions for millions of people whose only loyalty was for their back pockets', 'where was your attention when these criminals abused their office by receiving kickbacks and campaign contributions from such a company that owns the sunken ship 'Sewol' and many others who've basically passed all safety checks with the flexed muscles bought with their ill gotten gains', 'where did your sense of social conscience go when knowing about these facts you've turned a blind eye because you couldn't be bothered by something that didn't directly effect you and it was always 'other people's problems', 'who will you continue to blame for the loss of your precious kids but outside of yourself, whether it be the government mishandling, the ship's captain and crew, the media, the rescue crews, the owner of the sunken ship and whoever else that you fancy instead of looking at yourselves in the mirror as one among many people who were also responsible for this tragedy.

In the end we are all responsible wholly or partly for the way things have turned out that should never be conveniently brushed aside by claiming ignorance as the initial problems always start through that ignorance people love to conveniently use to justify non-guilt.

Will this tragedy just like so many others before it be readily and so quickly forgotten with people being none the wiser but more the stupider having learnt nothing from it and the deep underlying causes to once again bury themselves even deeper into the fantasy world of entertainment, smartphones, video games, illusions, religious beliefs, celebrity obsession and self obsession.

You betcha!
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Vincent
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Posted on Friday, April 18, 2014 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bianca,

Are adult Vaccinations bad?
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Matt
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2014 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since Billy and Figu are (organic) farmers and promote growing your own food, do they teach/advise anywhere how to properly prepare and treat our soil ready for organic farming? There are so many gardening shows that show so many ways to do it with so many products. Many of which are not organic.

The Plejaren speak of how our soil is lacking many nutrients and elements but I have not seen them, Billy or Figu advise us on how we should prepare and treat our soil ready for gardening. A comprehensive bulletin on this would be nice.
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Bianca
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2014 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As with anything we read... 'we must learn how to learn'.
That said, send me an email and I will forward you a copy of the Phd paper which explains in details what happens and how vaccines are made. If you are referring to Flu vaccines for example, then these are not necessary but optional, but for what purpose...?
At the end it is the personal decision one must take and live with.
…Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All.
OM
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2014 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is this a UFO?
The photo of the pilot seeing it seems to be no hoax:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/pilot-snaps-photo-of-ufo-over-caloundra-20140421-36znr.html?google_editors_picks=true

Salome

PS
I could not find any entry for UFO sightings - so I post this entry here.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Michael

In regards to your latest blog I can only feel deep respects and gratitude for your tireless loving and patient efforts in trying to inform as yet the uninformables.

I can only conclude without a shadow of doubt that indeed the so called ‘pseudo-skeptics’ are definitely suffering from the mental disease which we should newly coin ‘neurotic skeptical disorder’ and ‘truth denying psychosis’ as it really does border on the schizophrenic.

I just hope that such irrationality shown by these skeptics doesn’t drive you mad as on occasions it had done for me.

There are no adequate words to describe nor even accurately convey to the extent that it is deserved the level of illogicality and irrationality of these mentally short circuited wanna-be self impressed, overly intellectualized but devoid of substance, self proclaimed experts who after being offered tons and tons of proof material, ends up asking for more proof as if the word ‘proof material’ has a totally different meaning to the one rational people understand it as.

Maybe I haven’t tried hard enough in the past but no matter how much I’ve attempted to I wasn’t able to penetrate through their thickly built up force field of irrationalism and illogicism around their heads even with a generous helping of rational truth based reason.

But I guess not all is lost as these episodes cached for the future generations may serve as a comic relief and around the camp fire jokes to be shared by the more enlightened generations of what the truth had to go through to get to where they are by then able to enjoy to the fullest extent what the current generation of now the living had set these examples for them to witness these lessons from.
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> Honestly, people like the latest skeptic would be enough to drive one to despair if it wasn't long obvious now that we live in a world over-populated by non-thinking, superficial, hi-tech imbeciles. The degradation of consciousness in this age of easy access to "information" is beyond sad.
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Melissa
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Posted on Friday, April 25, 2014 - 05:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Michael_horn,

I'm guessing that if one spends much of their time working with and thinking about (people like the latest skeptic) would be enough to drive one to despair, but I do not even think that we live in world over-populated by non-thinking, superficial, hi-tech imbeciles. Rather, I think that we live in a world over-populated, causing some to non-think, act superficially, and some depend on electronics too much, but definitely not all.

Isn't it very important and powerful, how we think and direct our own thoughts, especially towards our own fellow human beings?
-Melissa
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Michaelhelfert
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Posted on Friday, April 25, 2014 - 06:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fukushima,
the name will be infamous for a long, long, long time yet to come,
although it doesn't mean so much to people just yet.
The name 'Fukushima' will come to mean a slow, quiet, insidious ill,
one that is blatantly unacknowledged, carefully, assiduously ignored by our power structures.

For me, however, Fukushima means something more subtle.
For me, Fukushima means that at a subtle collective level, mankind is not ready,
and mankind is slowly, very slowly, subconsciously figuring this out.
For me, Fukushima is mankind's test of collective self-honesty, collective wisdom,
although it may never be overtly seen as such.

Fukushima is our test of the age, and we have yet to give our answer:
do we challenge what manipulative pablum we are fed, or do we do watch everything fall ill and die?
Rather than global thermonuclear war, mankind's test is nuclear power.
Lest you think that this test is about how best to generate electricity, that circumstance is only the framework which brings our test to light.
No, this test is about people power, about the power structures which naturally aggregate and then wield us,
and how we, as people, respond.
Yet again, this is about people power, merely highlighted by Fukushima,
this is about how mankind deals with mutant power structures that proclaim themselves the paragons of wisdom.

I get the sense that mankind is taking a step back from this, our test -
it is such an obvious challenge for us that at our collective level we are taking a generation off to assess what it means.
This test is for all of mankind, not even one particular species of it,
and so far we haven't even begun to address it.

______________________________________________


Fukushima, Apophis, the (unmentionable), Planetary Carbon Cascade, Overpop,
and still more to come.
Life doesn't get any simpler from here on, not for quite awhile yet.
Our next plateau only comes through self-determined wisdom:
an appreciation for the wild beauty of life so thoroughly, deeply inculcated, so spiritually innate, that it becomes our own brand of unrecognized religion.
I am not sure we will get there as Earthlings.
Life
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Friday, April 25, 2014 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> Hi Melissa,

Every 35 years or so I allow myself just a touch of cynicism and near despair. I don't want to overlook the value of a drop of negativity, kinda like a grain of sand in the oyster shell to irritate and initiate the eventual growth of a pearl.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All

I saw president Obama last night who was inside his bomb proof limousine passing by just several meters from where I was standing.

I mean I gotta tell ya it was beyond laughable at seeing the sight of human barricade of police along every inch of the road where president Obama's limousine and hundreds of his entourage was going to travel on which only spoke of how sad and despicable the whole scenario was.

Here he was a bloke who was suppose the be the most powerful leader in the world caged in like a budgerigar so unfree protected and followed by hundreds of cavalry of secret service vehicles every step of the way.

I mean what a joke this institution called the 'Presidency' and its not confined to the US alone where if the leader was a genuine for the regular citizens person who is genuinely respected and loved by the people would he even need such a drastic measure of over the top protection behind the walls of a bulletproof limousine.

If the institution of presidency that he occupies is not subverted by war mongering financial, corporate, military, secret government, secret service and lobbyist advisers forcing the hand of the president to kill and murder millions of people around the world with wars, wars of sanction, drone attacks and renditions would he even need to travel inside a fortified and beefed up vehicle.

If the institution of the presidency's main goal was to create peace, love, harmony and freedom with genuine respect afforded to all nations on this earth instead of spearheading domestic and international policies that creates conflict of devastation that neatly props up the corporate military industrial complex's back pockets with trillions upon trillions of dollars of military spending would the president even need hundreds of secret service vehicles following his every move.

If in the land of the free and home of the brave (cough cough) so called leaders in the congress and senate on both parties had genuine leaders voted by their merit instead of by their adept rhetoric and skillful con who pursued sensible actions and voted for the bills that generated the most benefit for the regular citizenry instead of to their campaign contributing corporate doners would the president even need to worry about assassination attempts on his life.

If the regular citizens were reasonable, intelligent and wise would the positions of governments be infiltrated and subverted by special interests hell bent of world domination whose policy and dictate is dictatorship and complete control over them rather than genuine leaders being voted into office and for a genuine leader as the president who doesn't need to travel on a bulletproof car because he has pursued good policies that doesn't generate blow back and hatred against his country.

It goes on but you get my point.

Matt Lee
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Melissa

If I could just butt in here and sorry for being nosy

You said 'Isn't it very important and powerful, how we think and direct our own thoughts, especially towards our own fellow human beings?'

My view is that this should equally apply to the ignorant masses who shouldn't be mollycoddled and persistently handed get-out-of-jail-free card in perpetuity just because they don't know the truth as it doesn't take knowing the truth to know what is right from wrong and besides they are the ones unappreciatively rejecting the truth even after Michael has generously handed to them on a silver platter.
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Corey
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Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 05:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not really sure where to put this tidbit:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/19/ufos-crash-china-villages_n_5353750.html

Secret Chinese craft?

Salome

Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.

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