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Kiwiseeker
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Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey- your post 563 above. Destruction of Atlantis 11,514 years before 2014?
C150-Quetzal p.284 Contact Block 4:11,503 years before Christ-a deluge,caused by an asteroid, destroyed 'Great' Atlantis.
Assuming that this has not been corrected!
Charles
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Kiwiseeker
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Tat_tvam_asi,
Minoans or Atlanteans?
Valery Uvarov writes this in his book 'The Wands of Horus':"When we refer to the knowledge of Ancient Egyptian priests and initiates,we are referring to Egypt at the time of the Metu Nefer and the 'Shemsu-Heru' the "god-like people devoted to the growth of wisdom" who came and ruled Egypt for several millenia before the start of the dynastic period."Also "The Shemsu-Heru were bearers of knowledge of a higher order from whom the race of pharaohs sprang.The Sacred Prayer,a 'hermetical ' text of Egyptian origin speaks of them with reverent awe as god-like people "devoted to the growth of wisdom'. These Followers of Horus brought people the knowledge of their 'divine origins',by which means they united the country." Valery also writes about a chamber in the 'Great Pyramid' which contains the 'Energy Source' which the Ancient Egyptians inherited from the people of Atlantis long before the heyday of Egyptian civilisation.
Technology?: If you look at the statues of the pharoahs you will see that they are all clasping cylinder-like objects in their hands. The cylinders of Pepi II can be seen in the New York Metro Museum. Valery Uvarov and his team has back-engineered these cylinders to produce the so-called 'Wands of Horus'(I have such a set):A copper cylinder(RH) and a zinc cylinder with dimensions conforming to the proportions of the Golden Section (L=151mm,d=28mm);filled with a quartz crystal or crystals.Galvanic and piezoelectric effects occur,resulting in em oscillations.There are many effects on the body,including stimulation of the hypothalamus and hypophysis.Healing also occurs.Reference: "Extracts from the New Book on The Wands of Horus"-a pdf at decalcifypinealgland.com.
Charles
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Corey
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Thanks for the correction Charles!
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Kiwiseeker
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Tat_tvam_asi and all
I am now aware that Valery Uvarov has a new website:
"The Official Site of Valery Uvarov"
http://wands-of-horus.com/en/
Includes free book downloads and:
Wands of Horus: Returning the secrets of Ancient Egypt.
Pyramids: The final analysis.Action.
Our Projects:
New Atlantis: Ark for planet earth
Project 12: 12 fundamental evolution principles
Author's Blog:
NOTE: With a knowledge of Billy's writings, then some of Uvarov's theories are incorrect. I have contacted him in the past about this. Nonetheless, if you sift the wheat from the chaff, there is much to be learned.
Charles
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Newinitiation
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Ok fellas the confusion about Atlantis was caused by there being many Atlantises instead of just one.

My question is it says greater Atlantis was destroyed by an artificial asteroid directed by the people from Mu on a suicide mission so when exactly did this happen?

I just cannot come to terms with the fact that after considering Plato's account this could not have happen over 100,000 years ago but more likely the old figure given of around 11,500 years.

What is your take fellas?
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I guess it was not an artificial asteroid. They probably snatched one, redirected it and pushed it to Earth in a suicide mission, not unfamiliar from modern wars and terrorist actions with suicide bombers.

Also, this event coincided very well with the overall cataclysmic end of the ice age. The ice molt away, the sea levels rised fast, and in some places, there were truly disasters in form of floods from collapsing lakes at the rim of the glaciers.
Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards

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Str0323
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Newinitiation, from the material I've read, and my own reasoning, I concur that the destruction of greater Atlantis happened approximately 11,500 years ago.

Salome
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Newinitiation
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Thanks for the correction Baselineplayer
There were corrections on top of corrections on the time period for the destruction of Atlantis so I am still on a limbo as to whether it is around 100,000 or is it around 11,500 years seeing as we are dealing with at least 3-4 Atlantis.

It also appears that greater and lesser Atlantis had been destroyed at about the same period so I really don't know whats going on here as the more you read the more confused you get.
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Newinitiation
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Hi Scott

Yeah I concur with your assessment but why am I getting this nagging feeling that both 100,000 and 11,500 years are both right at the same time seeing as there were at least 3 Atlantises.

Cheers
Matt lee
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Catching up with this discussion:
Matt: You wrote "artificial satellite"-note so?
Destruction of Greater Atlantis-11,503 BCE. Also confirmed approx by Valery Uvarov-13660 years ago.
3 Atlantises- Quetzal C219 makes it clear (sort of!)-"129. The Atlantians of Great-Atlantis were rulers over all four Atlantises..". So they all existed at the same time,I assume.But: "New-Atlantis beyond the Pillars of Hercules, between the Azores and Spain."I thought that Great-Atlantis was centered on the Azores."Great-Atlantis had it's existence in the Atlantic".Was that,in fact elsewhere in the Atlantic?
Quoting from Valery Uvarov -"The Pyramids"-a downloadable pdf: Atlantis, its history needs to be divided into two periods:
*The first and main period is associated with [Greater]Atlantis, which was situated on an archipelago 600 kilometres west of Gibraltar.It was about this Atlantis that Plato wrote in his Timaeos and Critias from the words of Solon, who had heard the amazing story from an Egyptian priest named Salis.*The second period in the history of Atlantis, or rather in that of the Atlanteans who survived the disaster, can more accurately be called Mediterranean. It was of the Atlanteans living in North Africa near the Atlas mountains that Herodotus wrote long before Plato. Diodorus Siculus also mentioned Atlanteans,living on the African coast of the Atlantic Ocean and having a capital called Cerne. This second period ended 3450 years ago, during the reign of the pharaoh Akhenaton.
The smallish island in the Atlantic Ocean in ancient times was the site of the Great Pyramid of the Atlanteans.This centre of symmetry in Hajji Ahmed’s map, showed that the co-ordinates of the Atlantean pyramid served as a “bench mark” for the cartographers of ancient Atlantis, whose maps that survived the flood were kept in the Library of Alexandria and later were removed by the Turks to Constantinople.
The Dendera Zodiac:13660 years ago, in the year of the catastrophe[destruction of Great-Atlantis],the Sun rose at the spring equinox in the first minute of the “Head of the Crab”. That means that the disaster took place when the Sun was between Leo and Cancer.According to the ancient text after the asteroid impact[E to W] the Earth partially turned over. Then the points of the compass changed places. The Sun rose on the western horizon and set in the east. In his History Herodotus wrote:"At that time, so the priests said, the sun rose four times not in its usual place: that is,twice it rose where it now sets and twice it set where it now rises".
Precessional (Zodiacal) time began to run backwards.[the north pole changed by 15 deg and the angle of the axis also changed from 9-20-15 deg].A "wrinkle" in zodiacal time occurred of 608 years-transition into Aquarius in 2614 CE.
N.B.We all know that birth signs do not synchronise with constellations.The sun moves once around the central star of our galaxy and from Earth perspective it appears to pass through 12 constellations.But because Earth changes its orientation with respect to the 'fixed stars' due to precession,asteroid impacts and close encounters with comets (Destroyer)then it is a varying observational platform and wisdom is required to evaluate observations of the night sky.The sun moves through 12 sectors of space regardless,so now we are moving from Pisces ("faith and belief") into Aquarius ("reason and understanding")finally in 2029 as Billy has said.
Valery Uvarov does not mention the feud between Mu and Atlantis.He also goes on to the Santorini eruption,but wrongly attributes this to an asteroid-we all know that it was the Destroyer,wth Venus in tow.
Charles
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Newinitiation
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Hi Charles, then this would partially explain why Florida isn't the North pole anymore and that Antarctica is now covered in thick ice instead of being lush green as it used to be according to the Piris Map?

Matt Lee
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Hi Kiwiseeker,
Thank you for keeping the discussion about Atlantis alive.
(Sorry it took a little longer to get back to you.)
I cannot recall any suggestion by the Plejaren or BEAM that the pharaohs descended from Atlantis.
They, indeed, rarely mention a connection between Egypt and Atlantis.
From the Future Of Mankind web site:
“Quetzalcoatl was a very high officer or high supervisor of an extraterrestrial group, which was active in the region known today as Egypt….”

But I, too, am convinced that the Egyptians and all the Mediterranean countries were influenced by them.
For that would speak as well the many inventions the Egyptians are credited with:
- the first solar calendar (12 months @ 30 days each plus 5 days at the end of the year),
- the first calendar with a leap year,
- the first number characters indicating 1, 10 and 100,
- the first writing method (hieroglyph alphabet, papyrus, reed pen, black ink),
- sun and water (clepsydras) clocks, the saw,
- wooden locks,
- the first boats built from planks, ,
- lubricants for wheels,
- surgical instruments,
- the plough,
- toilets,
- the Archimedan screw,
- dice and bowling alleys (bowl had to hit a hole),
- many cosmetics (eye make-up, perfume, cream, tooth paste),
- breath mints, high heel shoes,
- wigs,
- wine/beer making,
- leavened bread
to mention the most popular ones.
These many inventions may well lead to the question “where did the Egyptians get their knowledge from?”.
This knowledge seem to have spread all over the Mediterranean:
E.g. the Phoenicians had running water like the Minoans in Crete but in today’s literature we usually find the Romans credited with the aqueducts and running water.
But back to your suggestion that Egypt deserves more mentioning:
Horus meaning "falcon” had the additional meanings "the distant one" or "one who is above, over" which -one could speculate- could mean that people from UFOs flying “ above”.
We may compare this with the image of Christian angels - they all have bird-like wings – or the depiction of the holy spirit (as a dove) when Jmmanuel was baptised – they all are impressions of of a human mind who could not believe that anything other than birds flies.
Edgar Cayce stated that at the time of the final breakup of Atlantis, some 10500 BCE, there was a connection between the Egyptian priesthood and Atlantis people. (Though according to BEAM some of E.C.’s predictions may be distorted by religious beliefs and (in view of the historic dates given by the Plejarens) some of his accounts do not seem to be right - e.g. according to EC Atlantis was destroyed in 3 stages in 3 different periods of time).
The Proclear philosopher who lived between 485 and 412 BC, wrote a detailed commentary to the dialogue "Timeu" of Plato. That comment, reported that a Hellene Proclear of Crantor name, came to Sais, where the temple of Neita would have seen the whole column covered with hieroglyphics, recording the history of Atlantis. These hieroglyphs it would have been deciphered by experts and, as stated, he, Crantor then heard, was in perfect agreement with the content of the story of Atlantis by Plato,
Solon visited Egypt in 570 B.C.E.
He, too, said that the Egyptians were related to Atlantis.
I think that Otto Muck was right when he said that most cultures we find today on earth were influenced by the people of Atlantis – adopting some of their life style and some of their inventions. He mentions the many similarities in the folklore, artefacts and buildings (pyramids akin the high volcanic mountain (Atlas) in Atlantis) of many different cultures around the world.
We find many similar customs.
Sample:
"The religion of Egypt was pre-eminently sun worship. Ra was the sun god of the Egyptians. The religion of the Mayas in Central America was the same. Ra-Na was the sun god of the ancient Peruvians.
There were pyramids in both countries.
How could the ancient people of Egypt and Mexico have known of each other?

Salome
PS
Re. the Minoans - it is very sobering to read about discoveries that thirty-seven centuries ago, in a time when savage earthquakes were rocking the island of Crete, Minoans may have sacrificed children – similar to the mythical Greek story of Theseus.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19800910&id=2K8oAAAAIBAJ&sjid=rCsEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6463,5225402
Human sacrifices to prevent earthquakes – we may find this in primitive cultures.
But from descendants of the people of Atlantis?
Hard to believe.
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Oneness

From the Future Of Mankind web site:
“ Otto Muck - "controlled" & inspired by the Pleiadians - 60.173-178

For many years, the Plejarens have controlled Otto Muck, who has been inspired by them for certain things. He should achieve great publicity from the results of his research that will prepare humanity for the truth about the events of Atlantis and Mu. He has accomplished this with a book and a magazine article.
(He) …calculated that Atlantis was destroyed at exactly 7:00 PM on the 6th of June, 8,498 BC and exactly as the Plejarens described it. He was only wrong about the date by exactly 1,000 years and he wrongly assumed that it was purely a cosmic catastrophe. The Plejarens are aware that he first received and wrote about the legends of Atlantis 2,322 years ago for posterity because he is the reincarnation of Plato…”

The Plejaren say that Otto Muck’s account of the destruction of Atlantis is fairly accurate.
(apart from the fact that the date, Atlantis was destroyed, was 1000 years earlier)
The details he mentions are truly extraordinary – his observations and the collection of pieces of evidence are impressive, indeed.
I believe his insight and impressions should become common knowledge – so I summarize the implications that followed from the “planetoid” hitting earth:
- earth axis wobbles by 23 degrees – it retreats 1 degree every 7650 years during this time most (non equatorial) places on our earth experience seasons - the redirection of the Gulf Stream to Europe melted the ice cap that covered Europe (incl. London / Berlin) and North America ––north pole shifts some 3500 km the icing up of Siberia within a day – the reason why mammoths are so well preserved and found in a cold zone – the reason why eels wander along the Gulf Stream and into European (instead of Atlantis) rivers_ - the breaking open of all volcanoes along the Mid Atlantic Ridge – the sinking and lifting of the North/South American tectonic plates) they are remarkable observations.
One has the feeling that he relives the time the disaster happened.
It makes you wonder what he would write now – with the knowledge of BEAM’s notes about Atlantis.
His ideas about the high volcano mountain in the Azores in which Atlantis people buried their dead influencing us primitive earthlings to construct buildings that look like this volcano mountain – buildings of sacred tombs that become temples, menhirs (Celts), minarets, pyramids, altars / churches. The fire of the Atlantis volcano becoming the fire in which sacrifices are burnt and the steam of the volcano reflected in the incense that is burnt to please the deities.
His reckoning that many peoples repeated blood sacrifices (Aztecs some 20000 to 40000 slaves a year) just as the people in Atlantis may have done – this aspect may not be right – maybe it is an addition that was added when the book was redone and published a second time some 20 years after his death (It would not surprise if certain influences found again a way to distort the truth!). But considering that the Gizeh Intelligences demanded blood sacrifices via the earth religions –then this segment, too, is not far of the truth – even in this aspect..
His presentation of sources available to humanity now – that is the many legends that show a great similarity – world wide – so many similarities that they cannot be a co-incidence: the great sun like serpent falling to earth – the great flood (ca. 10 km high Tsunami) rolling over and swamping earth – the deluge of rain, mud and volcano ash – the immediate climate change – the many centuries of dark skies (a smog ball that lasted 2000 years) - it is very understandable that people told their descendants about this disaster, that the legends of all cultures worldwide report of the events
(The Epic of Gilgamesh, the Bible, the Greek Myths of Deucalion and then Pyrrha – the Mayas – the Aztecs – the people in Iceland, in Scandinavia, in Mongolia and many others)
Well, if Otto Muck – as a part of the Plejaren mission should “prepare humanity for the truth about the events of Atlantis and Mu “ then his presentation – esp. his first book (1956) of the disaster of the Atlantis destruction deserves to be read. It is impressive in its details.
His book (“The Secret of Atlantis”) wants to wake up humanity to realize what they have buried for so long as a deep seated, undigested memory of the unimaginable horror that befell our planet. No other catastrophe had the same magnitude of destruction. The planetoid that hit the Atlantic in 2 massive pieces 120 km north of Puerto Rico created a tsunami that was thousands of meter high flooding the whole world several times - killing most living beings on earth. The few survivors in remote areas, did have the huge task of starting all over again, starting alone, starting from point zero.
As the scale of the barbaric killings was a true holocaust for all living beings on our planet Arus (a scientist) and its successors had to rebuilt the races they wanted to govern. But as we know their efforts were not sincere.
They taught the new races submission, were blinded again by their superiority complex and drove humans to blood sacrifices (Aztecs: 20 000 – 40 000 slaves p.a.)>
They manipulated their minds - postulating religions that venerated them as creator-gods.
When in reality they were afraid that the truth about creation may lessen their superiority.
If this holds true then I would understand if there is the a great sense of compassion and a desire to repair the damages - in the hearts of other descendants of the people that caused that holocaust some 11,500 years ago.
Especially since we earthlings inherited from other parts of the Lyrian race further humiliations – the gene manipulations that stimulate anger and to die relatively young giving us hardly a chance to develop spiritually.
Thus the initiative of the Plejaren and High Council to assist us via prophets and by thought impulses becomes very understandable.
I do appreciate the great and long-term assistance that we have received and do receive from the Plejaren and the High Council.
But maybe our “finding the truth” may not only be our salvation but as well be the necessary step of evolution for other members of the Lyra-races ?

Salome

PS
It is really sad that Otto Muck did not know the details the Plejaren provided.
That it all came from a mind of superiority of some scientists of Atlantis who felt they are the ones that should rule the world. I think it would have given him the chance to present a reflection and moral, a maxim that humanity could learn from it.
In his life as Plato his mind was disgusted by Athens ordering the death of his teacher Socrates.
So he went to Syracuse to encourage a philosopher king there.
An adventure that almost cost his life.
In this life his fate was to be an engineer and inventor who was forced to work for a leader who believed in the superiority of his race – a superiority complex that created a terrible war.
Perhaps this is why he pictures the terrible events in Atlantis for the horror they really were.
The parallels of events paired with the awareness that human thoughts create environments that reflect these thoughts would certainly be with him. His book “The Transcendental Method” shows clearly that his mind was as well in this life a seeking spirit longing for humanitarian values behind the material world.
He would have certainly expressed even deeper philosophical insights and thoughts knowing the reason for the destruction of Atlantis.
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This is just an add-on to explain why I titled the article about Otto Muck’s Atlantis “Oneness”.
It should express that anger, the source of all quarrels, killings and war horrors, stems from a sense of mistaken superiority.
Mistaken because the basis of the universe is per definition a loving oneness (uni versus = turned into one).
Even if there are highly and not so highly developed races in this universe – we are one big family.
If some members of this family are badly off would not the better off family members come to assist them?
The basic thought of creation would certainly develop from a loving sense of oneness. Because all new creations – be it plants, animals or humans – start with a thought of loving oneness.
And so it is in the material world – so it is in the spiritual world also.
The Lyrian races – to see them like one big family.
This would be then my thought – of the Plejaren mission and us.
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Old Atlantis in Troy CR 219
Billy:
Then that would also be clear. So thus the next question, namely about Atlantis. If I remember correctly, Semjase once said that there hadn’t been only two Atlantises, the Great Atlantis and the Small Atlantis. Do you know about this?
Quetzal:
126. Yes.
127. There were four different Atlantises, so the New Atlantis beyond the Pillars of Hercules, between the Azores and Spain.
128. Then there was the Small Atlantis that existed in the Mediterranean Sea in the area of Santorini, and then Old Atlantis is to be mentioned, on which later, after its downfall, Troy was built, while Great Atlantis had its existence in the Atlantic.
129. The Atlanteans of Great Atlantis were the rulers over all four Atlantises and their peoples, for they all belonged to the same origin.

So “Old Atlantis” was built were later Troy was built.
This is interesting because it may confirm a story that made headlines in October 1912 before being discarded as a hoax. I refer to the story of a “Dr. Paul Schliemann, grandson of H. Schliemann”.
H. Schliemann was an adventurous man who made a fortune selling gold dust from the Californian gold rush to the Rothschild’s (until they complained of short weight consignments), then selling indigo dye and finally with a business as a military contractor in the Crimean War buying and selling constituents of ammunition, which he resold to the Russian government.
When he was 36 years of age he was so wealthy that he could pursue his childhood dream to discover the ancient sites that Homer mentioned in the Iliad. He then discovered and “unearthed” Troy and Mycenae.
Despite his fame the Anglo-Saxon media did not have a positive view of him.
Partly they did not like his attitude describing him being more an adventurer/daredevil than an archaeologist.
Partly because a US archaeologist (Frank Calvert) gave him the hint that Hissarlik was a the likely site of Troy but H. Schliemann was the only one to get all the publicity and fame for the discovery of Troy. (He got as well a PhD from the university of Rostock on the basis of his topographical analysis of Ithaca).
Despite all the bad press, though, his name and discovery is – at least today- undisputed.
But one can hardly find any information about Dr. P. Schliemann.
After he published his book “How I found the lost Atlantis” (1913) there was not much heard of him anymore and the internet does not contain any hint about his later life.
Some think that he may have been killed in WWI.
Details about his disputed story can be found on
http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/hif/index.htm and (e.g.)
http://atlantis.haktanir.org/ch7.html (this entry mentions as well a connection w. Egypt)
In a nutshell:
In his book Dr. P. Schliemann mentions that his grandfather discovered that Atlantis was the cradle of all civilisations on earth and that he set aside funds for the relative who is willing to devote his life to uncover further details of this discovery.

Despite the innuendo of untruth (i.e. “Phoenician hieroglyphs”) surrounding this story I mention it:
H. Schliemann’s discovery of a vase unearthed in Troy – on a much deeper level than the Troy of the Iliad - with an inscription that hints to a king Chronos of Atlantis is the only known reference that confirms what Quetzal says about the location of Old Atlantis.
If anyone has any other archaeological information re. Old Atlantis, its location or Dr. P. Schliemann I kindly ask him / her to provide it for discussion.
Salome
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Kiwiseeker
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Matt: I would have to agree with you.
Tat_tvam_asi: You certainly have written much of interest with great enthusiasm.Quetzalcoatl clashed with and was defeated by the GI Huitzilopochtli who "demanded human beings blood as sacrifice".Interesting that vase found at Troy.My feeling as well that cosmic catastrophes,especially the asteroid that destroyed Atlantis,meant that survivors had the huge task of starting all over again, starting alone, starting from point zero.
Charles
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I have Contact Block 2 and some years ago I started translating p271-p275 "The Day on which Atlantis Sank" and "After the End of Atlantis the Deluge Came" from a newspaper(?)or magazine(?) "Quick"-16 June 1976,so I had another look and will continue my translation.It mentions: "From northwest it silently approached the North American coast at elevation 33 degree latitude where today the port of Charleston in the state of South Carolina lies."Also:"The two biggest chunks fell northeast off Puerto Rico in the Atlantic. With the explosive-force of 30,000 hydrogen bombs, they broke through the earth's crust onto the seafloor."Valery Uvarov describes the asteroid as coming from about NE;I wonder if he is talking about the same asteroid?
Charles
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Hi Charles,

Coming from the NW quadrant - this trajectory path and north of Puerto Rico as the location where the 2 major planetoid pieces fractured the ocean floor - this is as well O. Muck's conclusion.

Bill

Salome
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Charles what I want to know is how in the heck haven't any earthling as yet found remnants of highly developed technological apparatus used by the people from Atlantis and Mu and other distant ET ancestors.

Some may say 'hey its all buried or under water or they took it with em' but with 8.55 billion people inhabiting this earth now, how could 17.1 billion eyes miss it.
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> Look up info on the Fried Egg Impact Crater: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8400264.stm

We included this in the 55 examples of Meier's specific, prophetically accurate scientific information in our film "as the time fulfills".
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Michael excuse me for my ignorance but is this information being tied to the prophetically accurate scientific information about.....................?
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2014 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matt,

Yes, it's tied into the info that (I think) Semjase told Meier about regarding the planetoid that split in two and plunged into the Atlantic.
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Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 136
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 03:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A good question Matt.With all the hundreds of thousands of beamships the Atlantians had,you might expect some remnants to have survived somewhere.Did they have scrap metal merchants in those days?
Charles

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