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    Joe Member Post Number: 291 Registered: 11-2008 |
Corey, Don't you think it's a little odd that on the one hand they can discover an Earth-like planet that is about 500 light years away but on the other hand they never mention the planet Akart which is only 5 light years away? I don't know, but to me this is strange. The only explanation that I can think of is that although the planet Akart is only 5 light years away from our planet Earth, it maybe exists in a different space-time configuration. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 561 Registered: 12-2009 |
Joe, Yes I find it odd that they never mention the planet Akart. You'd think if it is in the same space time configuration as Earth is, that someone should have been able to see it by now. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 26 Registered: 04-2013 |
Here is a hypothesis; we keep mentioning THEY. Who are we really talking about? Are we talking about just astronomers in general? If the THEY that were referring to in NASA; why would they tell of an Earth like discovery that is only 5 light years away. NASA fooled the entire world about the first moon landing. NASA also has a space station orbiting Mars and from what I understand has set foot on Mars; which is not advertised. Keeping a secret Earth like planet "Akart" for their self is exactly what NASA would do. | ||
Bianca Member Post Number: 114 Registered: 03-2009 |
Who wrote the story about planet Akart? I saw it somewhere but could not verify it is a true story. Any ideas anyone? …Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All. OM | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2440 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello, Here is some previous info about Akart which appeared in the Questions to Billy section years ago, also please lets get back to the topic. Thanks Truthseeker Greetings Billy, A few times over the past few years you've mentioned that Arther Berlet, the one who wrote a book called "UFO contact from Planet Akart", was in fact a fraud, despite there being similarities from your info to the true planet Akart, however, it has more recently been brought to my attention that this statement of your contradicts yet another statement found in contact #38 in which this can be found in a list of UFO contactees as follows where it says; -Arther Berlet/Brazil. Had real vision contact. (Note: this was evidently deleted from the list in the Stevens Translations as line #90.5) And then a short time later your reply back to Semjase was; Meier- Fantastic. Slowly my head smokes from these matters. But I recognize from your information, that neither Raps nor Berlet have flown in spaceships, and just have these experiences in the form mentioned by you. My question being, does this real vision still mean Arther Berlet is still a fraud or have the Plejarens since made a correction here concerning this matter, or is it because he may have changed his actual story in some way for his book?? I'm assuming he may have had changed his story somewhat for his book. Peace in knowing, James Truthseeker. A real vision contact is no real contact (meaning face to face), which means that he is a fraud when he speaks or writes of real contacts and experiences. | ||
Bianca Member Post Number: 117 Registered: 03-2009 |
This post is for Norm, Somewhere amongst the posts you were asking about solutions to your problems with Osteoporosis but it wasnt the right place to give suggestions, not sure here is either, but if you are still interested, send me an email. I can offer few ideas which work wonders for me with certain supplements after scouring the medical research files. …Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All. OM | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1520 Registered: 02-2000 |
Hi Bianca, Here's my email address. Thanx nld3@comcast.net | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 218 Registered: 07-2012 |
Akart is not in different space time configuration than us,I don't know why people keep saying this,it is also incorrectly put on the F.O.M website and needs to be corrected. How could they have space time configuration technology but can barely make it to our planet from time to time,that doesn't add up. Not only that they have to narcoticize themselves but are only barely past us in technological evolution. In my opinion,our scientists are so arrogant that they couldn't possibly fathom that there could be life right around the corner.They have to look half way across the universe for some reason. As I mentioned before, I'm not sure how to facilitate this but if we could get a telescope or astronomers to simply look for planets around(I forgot Akart's star,Alpha Centauri maybe) then that would be a really easy way to undoubtedly prove the case since it would be quite impossible for a Swiss farmer to know this,especially since nobody else knows that as well,nor has it ever been printed anywhere either. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 647 Registered: 12-2009 |
Thanks for clearing that up Blake. Hopefully in the distant future, centuries or whatever, our race will find Akart, and learn a thing or two about controlling our overpopulation from them since we won't need space-time-configuration shifting technology to find it. Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 296 Registered: 11-2008 |
Blake_p, I'm not sure if you were referring to me but I never said with certainty that the planet Akart is in a different space-time configuration from ours. I said of the possibility of it being in a different space-time configuration. Please make the distinction. Anyway regarding the planet Akart, it would not surprise me if both NASA and the ESA are deliberately suppressing such information from the general public. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 648 Registered: 12-2009 |
Joe, It would not surprise me either if what you say is true. Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1151 Registered: 07-2005 |
Its a no brainer but the Middle East must be due for an catastrophic earthquake very soon whether in Saudi Arabia, Libya, Kuwait, Qatar, United Emirates, Iraq, Syria, Iran or Israel/Palastine. The amount of hollow caverns underneath these countries must be staggering even if the the oil extracted is replaced with muddy sludge and water. With concentrated negative thoughts to boot that whole region would not need the Apophis to decimate a vast area If Italy or rather Rome, Vatican, Naples and Mt Vesuvius is due it may just be right around the corner so why isn't Billy's warnings coming to fore once again on this or why aren't we speaking up. Why does it always have to center around the USA when this country is stuck on planet earth like every other country with less than 4% of the world's population. Just getting sick and ad nauseously tired of hearing US this US that US every friggin where. Must be all these scummy self obsessed, self aggrandizing, self impressed, power hungry profit and money hungry whores infesting that wretched place turning this world to s**** that they are getting more airtime than it is deserved. Of course there are the good noble members of the human race there in the US being unjustly judged based on guilt by association with these putrid scums of this universe. What a frigging mess the whole human race has made this earth stupid idiots | ||
Verlanis Member Post Number: 76 Registered: 10-2012 |
US this and US that, probably because America has the clout to project the image it does. America has fallen further from grace than it should have, and does project alot of garbage culture. The remnants of the "cult of ashtar"; Bafath followers; are still the main antagonists in this drama called Earth. Jack -- | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 824 Registered: 07-2009 |
> As some of you know from my blog, I'm pumping out the info faster than the Saudi's pump oil. Now might be a splendid time for people on this forum to start to EXTEND their comments out into the world we all live in. That's right, without missionizing YOU can help draw attention to the Meier information, the prophetically accurate scientific and world event information and actually, possibly help to wake some more people up thereby to the spiritual teaching. I have nearly…300 pages on my blog. Have all of you on the forum read all, most, some…any of them? There's a ton of referenced work there that you could refer to on blogs, forums, news sites, UFO sites, spiritual and consciousness sites, etc., etc. It isn't gonna do a bit of good to prioritize learning the intricate details about the AA level, Petale, etc., if we can't communicate to others from a place of already knowing the importance of the Meier information, spiritual teaching, etc. Again, it isn't about missionizing, it's about…standing up for the truth in a nice balanced way, be courageous and acting in appropriate ways to make a positive difference in the very troubled world we all live in. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2463 Registered: 12-1999 |
Please lets get back to the topic | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 366 Registered: 05-2012 |
MH What a fellow to do if he/she wants to have your all/older or recent, or upcoming blog posts translated to their home country language and possibly even have them published online? (with clear reference to the originals of course). Salome | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 826 Registered: 07-2009 |
> Ferbon, Send me an email stating what you have in mind and we'll dicuss it of course. | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 435 Registered: 09-2011 |
Howdy Matt, You asked a salient question: why does the United States play a central role in so many affairs around the world? The answers border on religious zealotry. What exactly are we talking about here? 1. The influence of the U.S. is inflated beyond its actual impact by the power of the U.S.-based movie industry, conflated with the U.S.-based news and information industry, both of which are primarily the playground of an insular group and its social improvement agenda for the world at large. Outside the U.S., the BBC has a similar strategy, and Indian television/Bollywood is evolving in that direction, while the culture/information control of other cultural groups, such as Al Jazeera and ARD has yet to reach the ubiquitous sophistication of the U.S.'s secret sauce. The U.S. has been slow to take their model to the next level, through the internet, presumably because the people who have the assets and ability to do so lack the foresight. I'm not sure who among the governments and mainstream media will figure out how to control the internet, if anyone. 2. The influence of the U.S. is promoted by the world's use of the dollar, (which is only a unit of measure, BTW), as the world's primary trading currency. America has been a wealthy nation, at least until our manufacturing plants were dismantled and shipped to China. We are still riding on the fumes of that wealth, built up since World War 1. While that particular stream of wealth is unlikely to ever return to the United States, we may yet find ourselves producing wealth in other ways. Determination of which currency the world uses for its international trades tends to be dependent upon two things: where the international banks/markets are, and where goods/improvements are produced. Thus, in the near-term (next lifetime, or so), we can expect that usage of China's currency in international reserves and trade will ascend, (potentially quite fast at one point in time). 3. The influence of the U.S. is felt tangibly by governments around the world in no small part due to the power of the American military, a power which does get exercised, BTW, but this strategy is an expensive one. America has the strongest military in the world for more of a reason than just sycophants steering monies into military coffers, but maintaining this capability is too expensive for even us. Many countries look to the successful influence of the U.S. military as justification for their own military build up. Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, India, and China, all are building up their military might in the near-term, to help spread their respective influences around the world. 4. America was comprised primarily of people of Western European descent until the Immigration Act of 1965. The impact of open/mass immigration (for every reason within reach) upon our country has really only just begun. In the name of equality, this altered demographic has further been massaged to change the faces in the movies and the mainstream media, the faces of people in politics, the faces of people in business, some religiously believe for the better. The majority of people living in America now draw their roots to countries other than the Western European nations. This has further altered American culture, and resulted in America's reach extending back to even more countries who might otherwise be immune to our cultural influence. 5. American companies have searched the world over for untapped resources and new markets. For instance, non-renewable energy sources, especially oil, have drawn American companies around the world. This has also had a huge impact on how the world's sees America, and how America sees the world. New international markets will continue grow and evolve. Soon they will surpass America's in prominence, but Americans will still be there, mixing it up with the indigenous. These points (and surely others, too) answer 'how' more than 'why'. The why of it has more to do with who is running our country, and for what purposes. Such people, who desperately wish to remain unnoticed, prefer to use America as their tool, to further their brand of 'progressive' cultural influence around the world. Lacking that impetus, America might not have been nearly so meddlesome in other regions and countries of the world, particularly the Middle East. Now, however, America is changed. I don't know for how much longer it can be held together as a single nation since our government no longer represents the original people. I think what we are seeing now is the end of a minor empire... an empire both built and destroyed by immigration, integration, and dispersion. What Phoenix will rise here from the ashes? Perhaps our country will assimilate into some integrated New World Order (the ambition of our cultural minders), or perhaps the largest remaining pieces of American society will form coalitions, or perhaps nothing but anarchy for as long as people continue to manipulate each other's hearts and minds. All I can say for certain is that what America was, even just a generation ago, is no longer what it is. The old systems, the old infrastructures, the less prominent schools and parks and libraries, are threatened with decline, disrepair, for the American people are different now, and we no longer value things in the same way. What relevancy does this have for us here on this forum? I am so glad you asked that. I do believe that any FIGUean society that arises will need to produce exportable goods/improvements in order to survive. We will need to conduct trade and work the finance system, no matter how naturally pure, and innocent we strive to be, just to exist. We will need to influence the world body politic just to stay afloat in a shrinking sea of sharks. This world will not leave uninterested parties alone, but will find a way to use them, or to be used by them, at every turn. In this ecosystem, no society can successfully exclude itself from the unending game for more than a few years lest it become a resource for some other group acting in a more predatorial manner. I think that there is no choice; not only should we aim to be as natural as possible, we must also engage this world on its own terms, this too. Life | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1154 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Jack I agree Matt Lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1155 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hey Michael that's a very comprehensive and detailed list I am sure is right on the money. If I could just add several things on top of that like for example the original sin (genetic manipulation), GI/Bafath Co's telenotic influence, nefarious machination of the Dark Order group within a group and DNA religious indoctrination by Creator Overlords it still doesn't explain why of all places the US in particular is filled with so many crazy power and profit hungry sociopaths and psychopaths. It boggles the mind how the free will has been utterly abused in the name of power lust and profit lust in that country that it is drawing so much attention to itself. It is beyond belief and it beggars belief and comprehension how so many mad and crazy people are produced off the assembly line of US sociological, ecclesiastical, political, educational, technological and cultural paradigm and as if no different to WMDs whereby people there have been so bombarded by the Weapons of Mass Distraction at the most extreme psyops level and sophistication that US is kinda like a special school for producing megalomaniacal psychopaths and sociopaths although every country on this earth do have their fair share of these types. Add to that the influence of drugs, alcohol, acculturation and acclimation of violence, exceptionalism, gangsterism, extreme materialism, consumerism and as you say immigration, militarism, the influence of the dollar, Hollywood, globalisation and corporatism and you get a bad combination of attention seeking, wanna-be lords of the universe psychos treating the country as the lawless wild wild west doing 'do as thy wilt shall be the whole of the law'. I do agree with you that we have to engage this world on its own terms but then again do we have a choice when the stage has already been set that is beyond our immediate control for now. In the past I've made the mistake of going too fast with the spiritual teachings and as a result I have been burnt in the impetuous rush. I've figured out the hard way that you cannot possibly hope to apply many of the spiritual principle with the current state of affair and condition without incurring damage to yourself or even doing damage to others. You simply cannot because the world isn't ready to accommodate you so you definitely have to harbour a certain level of degeneracy and aggression in order to survive in this world. Hence my vulgar use of foul language and aggressiveness from time to time which I don't want to lose ever again. Unless you live an insular life where you rarely interact with the outside world and prefer solitude then you don't have to deal with so much s*** that comes from out there but you also have to pay a price in that your inner muscles in being able to deal with the verities of the outside world atrophies and hence you become weak and as Billy puts it ‘eccentric’. Moderators we need a new thread titled world affairs. Not in the same vain as the now defunct Non FIGU Related-General-Miscellaneous thread. The current lack of a thread to write about world affairs or even to ties in with Billy's texts always puts one at a disadvantage in that - The poster will always be off topic - The poster has no choice but to break the rules - The poster is frustrated because they have to censure themselves and limit themselves in what they can and can't write about - We are all a product of the external world and we don't live in a vacuum just because we have been acquainted/reaquainted with the truth but are inextricably intertwined and interconnected with the verities of the outside world and everything happens outside in and then inside out regarding world affairs so why haven't we got a thread to voice our opinions on it when the spiritual teachings need the outside world for synthesis and completeness although I do understand that we tend to go off topic and the relevance of Billy Meier's material does get lost. - Most of what we talk about here is about world affairs and how it ties in with Billy's information anyway. Could you moderators consider and reconsider Thanks Matt Lee Hi Matt, Although I agree with you the topic areas are limited in some respects, we have to realize this is the FIGU Forum which should relate to topics which have been presented in the teachings/writings by FIGU. I understand everyone may need to rant and rave at times about the current state of the world, but anyone can see and read this anywhere on the internet and news. Perhaps if you feel the need to express yourself in your own unique way you might consider creating your own website/blog which would allow you complete freedom with what you would like to say. Regards Scott (Message edited by scott on June 27, 2014) | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2464 Registered: 12-1999 |
Can we please get back to the topic again? This topic is related to the natural world, ie; nature. Thanks | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1156 Registered: 07-2005 |
Scott thank you for your suggestion I think we have covered this issue before and this isn't the first time. The whole point of the exercise is to draw attention to the Meier case so in essence this forum and theyflyblog among others related to Billy Meier case. There are blogs and then there are websites but why dilute the effort by creating more when the hard work has already been done here and theyflyblog, it rather makes more sense to improve and build on what has already been created like these forums. Hence the always pertinent requirement for participation in any other external forum to include a link to this forum, FIGU websites, theyfly and futureofmankind among others. So my suggestion for a new thread 'world affairs' is to tie in current external events to the Billy's texts, prophecies & predictions and conversations rather than detracting from it. So when there isn't an appropriate thread it's hard not to detract from the Billy Meier case if you get what I mean. I've been at this long enough to know that 'yes' it is about the Billy Meier and his ET contact case but more to the point it is about the spiritual teachings and knowledge of Creational spiritual truth as taught by the Plejaren, spirit levels and Billy but where is it all happening in the end except here and now in this so called present reality on this earth among all creatures great and small as well as our fellow human beings where, absent this stage or platform, no amount of spiritual teachings will help All the verities and vicissitude of life is out there for the spiritual teachings and Billy's other information to find context and for its application where synthesis and completeness will result from theory and practice coming together in oneness. This was what I was trying to get at. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2465 Registered: 12-1999 |
HI Matt, If you didn't know there has been a similar section in the past which was entitled current earth events. The section was eventually closed off due to the continual off topic discussions which ensued. Please read some of the conversations and let me know if this is what you had in mind. Regards Scott http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/8853.html?1273260013 |
