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Newinitiation
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Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2014 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Piyali I would have to agree with you that in the end it is definitely a global issue and a global problem that extends to every person living on this earth.
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Darren
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Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newinitiation, personally I don't think so. Obama may have helped end it sooner but I don't think the US would have left Iraq until it got what it wanted there.
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Corey
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Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darren,

That was a good link, it took me a few days to get to it, but once I did, I devoured it in like 5 minutes. Some of the 74 comments were pretty informative as well.

Salome

Corey
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Darren
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Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey, I thought it was a good link when I found it too.

I was also surprised by most of the comments that people were leaving there too. Not all people are stupid.
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Norm
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well Obama has decided to not control of the Borders of the USA anymore. 1000's of children & families are currently crossing the USA border everyday. Its estimated that 60,000 have come so far since January with no end in sight. Some how they are being transported from Honduras, El Salvador & Guatemala through Mexico to the USA border. Mexico is not enforcing their southern border all of a sudden. A country which normally has very strict border controls. This situation is insane because millions of people will try to come to the USA illegally. The USA could collapse financially because of it. But maybe that a good thing according to the Ps & Billy. So Obama is a success to them, but to me he is hurting my country. As someone who voted twice for Obama I can no longer support these type policies of Barrack Obama! I'm schocked Obama has no clue when it comes to overpopulation & what over-immigration can do to any country.

"The leadership are fooling themselves. Overpopulation is a very serious
problem, and over immigration is a big part of it. We must address both. We
can't ignore either."

– David Brower,The late Sierra Club hero who was nominated three times for the Nobel Peace Prize. Outside Magazine, July 1998

"Its just obvious that you can't have open immigration and a welfare state."

– Noble award-winning economist, Milton Friedman
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Vincent
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Norm,

I heard something about that on our news here in Australia. I don't think it is a good thing either. Yes illegal immigration is not good for any country.

I thought Billy and the P's said that Obama does not have full control of his government. Maybe it is not his fault. I do not know.
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Billwilson12
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Being in the USA I know that the aging baby boomers have to have far more bodies to cover the social security IOU's that are in the fake lock box, they believe that their is money to cover their old age. That pie was eaten along time ago by the educated ones enjoying the American golden pie, oh I forgot the American dream. Those poor kids are going to have a life of the plow no future of the good life will theirs to be had. Much sorrow we be found at hands of others by these poor people by the friend and stranger alike in this country of en-lighted people. Just think how many of the USA's young are living on the streets, on drugs and in prison. Far more than the young ones that can cross a line in the sand, what for a dream. That has been destroyed long ago by the so called en-lighted ones. Sadly an education in their homeland would have given a far better life than they will find hiding in the USA. Be honest think long and hard about the life that waits anyone crazy enough live a life at bottom of the ladder.
123OM
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Matt
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Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2014 - 03:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm, things only seem to be getting worse in the US. I don't blame you for feeling like that. Things like that won't help stop the break up of the States. A worrying prophecy.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2014 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill thats why we need a war to end all this suffering
Even if this sounds degenerate and counter intuitive it is part of natural law for things to be recycled by death and then rebirth and as the Plejaren have stated something to the effect that things must go on its way of evolution even to death so that it doesn't endanger the good ones and certainly time will tell how thing will transpire on this cannibalized earth by unrighteous profit and power hungry whores but like I said we need a war to get rid of all this stenching rot we have created for ourselves and we deserve the punishment bar none.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2014 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Look Norm whoever is responsible for ruining your country what you cannot avoid is the laws of cause and effect because this law doesn't discriminate nor does it choose favourites therefore that immigrationgate is another bullet in the head towards civil war in your country in my opinion and of course this is just an opinion and not a foolproof prediction.

Your country is going down the drain and it must be the boomerang coming back to chop your country's head off with all your accumulated evils that is now coming to roost.
I take no delight in saying this but more of a lament in anger because things could've been better yet the scums that we humanity are, yes we are so don't give excuses that we aren't, we have brought this upon our stupid heads and this problem is not confined to the US alone although your fellow US white scums have been responsible for single handedly being the most conniving, degenerate, power and money hungry and evil, death bringing maggots who have brought so much pain and suffering all over the world.

Its a pity that even the innocence and those who are innocent and free of the crimes must suffer collectively for these degenerate's crimes simply because the rest of the collective didn't have the guts to unite and rein in these rabid power drunken and profit greedy psychopaths and sociopaths.
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Verlanis
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Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2014 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

@ Newinitiation

And who will fight this war? I won't fight for any war, most people in the US will not fight a war. The wannabe soldiers in the US will not fight a war in the US because most people cannot find the line that divides the "good" from the "bad."

The 70%(this figure derived from a recent gallup poll that are happy with the US) of America will not fight a war because there are no realistic problems to fight about because life in America is still going "normally".
Jack --
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Jokubas_stalmokas
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Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2014 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or we need more people like us who turn to the truth and by the power of our spirit and conscious effort help others to recognize it as well as leading by example strengthen the evolutive progress and this way slowly but surely change the whole population without needing to go through war and its degeneracy. Would not that be worth more than let ourselves be punished?
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Hunter
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Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2014 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Verlanis,
I don't see a war happening either. Most people in the US do not have the courage to fight, even if they could restore a sane government. I fear that they will readily submit to a tyranny once the economic collapse occurs, and it will occur in the near future.

In order to bring about positive change, you need KNOWLEDGE. And the vast majority of the American public is unfortunately still IGNORANT.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2014 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> Please remember what is said about the creation of conscienceless clones, fighting machines, etc., as well the desinsitization conditioning going on for the past couple of decades via…video games, the purpose of which is to so depersonalize uman bings nad killing them that it's merely a "game of skill", as has already been demonstrated in a number of places. This is the "new kind of fighting" that doesn't require any particular courage, endurance, patriotic fervor, etc.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Monday, July 14, 2014 - 05:03 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Look Jack who the heck in their right mind would want a war truly.
Other than the war profiteers although in the end they are also losers there are no winners to any conflict or wars.
But now that the situation has definitely become acute to the extreme the pent up agitation and resentment by the masses will no longer be containable and now something will inevitably explode.
Wars don't usually spring up out of nowhere without a careful preplanning but in this instance it looks as though your country will likely be the first.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Monday, July 14, 2014 - 05:08 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jokubas that would be ideal but look what the truth is up against man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B418vtkQsY

www.liveleak.com (bestgore and rotten etc)
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Monday, July 14, 2014 - 05:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hunter you can say that again with the proviso that the rest of the world is included in it.
'And the vast majority of the American public is unfortunately still IGNORANT'
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Monday, July 14, 2014 - 05:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael you said 'as well the desinsitization conditioning going on for the past couple of decades via…video games, the purpose of which is to so depersonalize uman bings nad killing them that it's merely a "game of skill", as has already been demonstrated in a number of places'

How true how very friggin true.
Here I am in a PC cafe among die hard fans young and old left and right of me so emersed in trance like fixation on their 35 inch computer screen in front of them with kelidoscopic graphics rapidly darting here and there with bullets to the crosshairs and ear splitting cacophony blasting many decibels reverberating throughout the room whilst 'Fs' 'Cs' 'Ss' 'SOBs' 'MFs' are thrown in from all angles every few seconds.

My screen would have to be the only screen that seems to stick out like a virgin in a strip club.

Anyway this is in an epidemic proportions and the killing of human beings by another is becoming as easy as swatting a fly.
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Billwilson12
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Posted on Monday, July 14, 2014 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newinitiation,
Thank you for you carefully thought out options. I served my country as a sailor starting at the tender age of 18, and after the cold war I can tell that no war really hurts the wealthy, they play both sides of the coin. It has always been the ones with the biggest hearts for others that have paid the highest price in all wars. BEAM is shinning a bright light on this insane way of living. Education of everyone possible in even a small amount will do away this illogical way of living and break the monsters brainwashing that starts here at birth. Educated humans have less children, illness and poverty. And they learn no one wins a fight both sides get hurt. We all put our pants on they same way one leg at a time, and the sooner we learn that the better we can be to each other and help each other learn. How much time do people spend teaching young ones not to borrow money, how balance a checking account or the real cost of having a child. I have lost count myself over the years and keep doing so ever chance I get. This always leads to a chance for more life lessons without ego.
This forum is a great place to talk with like minded humans about conflicts and to start to remove words like war from the human psyche, at least here a start for change should be found. I for one do not want to foster negative impressions on the psyche on others that one will one day read my thoughts. BEAM is teaching us that creation will affect the deepest parts of everyone's thoughts, so even if we do not know it someones miss understood written words could open doors of advanced knowledge somewhere else. When the time comes for past secret knowledge to be understood flaws will have to be found an corrected by the mass of wise ones of that time.
To close, how can we guide our members of the UN to join in the Evolutionary processes that is apart of all, please help us all show us how with your words and actions.
Peace and love to all.
Billy
123OM
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Kenneth
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Posted on Monday, July 14, 2014 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm,
This is correct; something has drastically changed on the political front; yes it is evident that we cannot have open immigration and a welfare state too. All of these people are looking for jobs that don’t exist; welfare that can not be had and maybe fleeing from a hostile environment.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-deport-children-20140706-story.html#page=1

President Obama and his aides have repeatedly sought to dispel the rumors driving thousands of children and teens from Central America to cross the U.S. border each month with the expectation they will be given a permiso and allowed to stay. But under the current administration, those reports have proved increasingly true.

You can also bet your bottom dollar that Vladimir Putin is watching this very closely. Putin well remembers the cold war and the fall of the USSR. Will Putin use this to his advantage? Could this trigger Russia to invade Alaska and Canada when the U.S.’s attention is diverted towards the immigration issue? Putin is also concerned about the upcoming U.S. elections and who will acquire the office of Commander in Chief? The laws of cause and effect are realized. Prophecy unfolding?
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Verlanis
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Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2014 - 02:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's the truth of the war matter, as in a world war, NATO has everyone out gunned. If America collapsed, the first thing that would happen is a premptive strike, possibly nuclear, internally and externally. One for America, and 10 to the intended targets. Americans would rally as in WW2 style, and NFL mobs would wake up and storm the gates of the world. China doesn't have the equipment to hold off US. Russia doesn't either. Even with both of them fighting on the same side, US still has more fighter jets and bombers than both combined. North America would have to slagged to molten dust in order to win a war against the US, which is what coincides with BEAM's information. Economic collapses won't likely happen to strong economies that supply the world with more trade than the world has ever seen.
Jack --
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2014 - 06:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kenneth as Billy stated people who don't have legitimate claim to refugee status should stay home and fix their own country instead of shirking their responsibility by fleeing to a better country and then stuffing that country up by degrading the achievements of its rightful citizens by being a parasite or something to this effect.
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Billwilson12
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Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2014 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Due to large mass of humans, refugees are in the millions in other countries out side the USA. Just because the media does not cover the sectarian crimes in other parts of the world. This should not mean that the Rothschild owned AP press should control the direction of on this forum. The USA is not the center of the planet, wiser humans have given us allot of the worlds history, an the horror that is covering the entire surface. I my be a US citizen, but this does not effect my peace meditation. I am wanting peace for the entire mass of human beings on this planet. Borders no longer control my thoughts, were I reincarnate does. Which as I understand it this could be anywhere due to religions and nations teaching go forth an multiply. War world 3/4 is not a prediction and as such it is stoppable. We are students and apart to this wonderful knowledge, and must use our knowledge of this, to impart wisdom to to those that follow. The foundation for a peaceful planet is within all. We do have within the world body the foundation for change already laid in the United Nations, if we only hold each countries ambassadors to account for their actions. Just maybe one day they could be wise enough to be the ones to control the insane ones.
123OM

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