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    Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1223 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Darren I think that the most important thing is what happens 'the day after' these warnings from Billy so to speak. I am sure that those in the supposed know, know that they've been through the countless warnings on top of warning on top of retractions on top of revisions on top of corrections on top of more warnings on top of clarifications and so on over the years about the WW3/4 whilst at times there were contradictory indications coming from the main street that left incongruous doubts in the back of one's mind against the advice given and leaving the unanswered question of 'then what the heck is the answer, is it A or B or a combination of the two or a tidbit of each or none of the above?' So how to avoid it other than stop or refrain from doing what these war mongering Dark Order group within a group 'who plays off against each other' psychopaths from US, Israel, Russia, China, EU and the Middle East are doing and hope that the masses don't follow their example. Right as we speak I think that the 7 heads of state dying within 7 days of each other must somehow come to pass to either usher in the dreaded war or divergently have the opposite effect of preventing it. This may also apply to natural disasters. The terrible environmental catastrophes outlined in the HP must come to pass so that people being so weighed down by these forces have little left in their gas tank for conflicts and wars. Time will tell and it always does eventually but in the mean time the runaway train of firestorms, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, mega waves, mass animal deaths, snowstorms, seaquakes, volcanic eruptions, landslides, explosions, famine, starvation, building collapse, bankruptcies, conflicts, wars, falseflag operations, MSM presstitute lies, psychological operations, environmental exploitation and destruction, racism, sport stadium collapse, destruction of dams, ozone depletion, rising cancer rate, mutations, desertification, water shortage, rising cost of living, massive flooding, plane crashes and so on will be the everyday occurrence until it derails. | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 438 Registered: 07-2009 |
Newinitiation, Lets hope none of that happens! I surely hope those in power come to reason, if not, I hope the public wakes up and brings them to reason. I don't trust our power hungry warmongering leaders at all. I never participated in the Peace Meditation. I think it's time I started. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 226 Registered: 07-2012 |
Just in case some people didn't see this posted on Michael's They Fly Blog; Great and comical,but Sad and very True! The story of Israel: http://www.globetoday.com/one-of-the-most-beautiful-accurate-and-true-cartoons-ever-a-masterpiece/ | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 443 Registered: 07-2009 |
I'm glad this is out. Hopefully it will now stop this nonsense from escalating into WW3. Evidence Is Now Conclusive: Two Ukrainian Government Fighter-Jets Shot Down Malaysian Airlines MH17. It was Not a ‘Buk’ Surface to Air Missile “Contrary to the Obama administration’s public claims blaming eastern Ukrainian rebels and Russia for the shoot-down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, some U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame, according to a source briefed on these findings. This judgment — at odds with what President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry have expressed publicly — is based largely on the absence of U.S. government evidence that Russia supplied the rebels with a Buk anti-aircraft missile system that would be needed to hit a civilian jetliner flying at 33,000 feet, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.” http://www.globalresearch.ca/evidence-is-now-conclusive-two-ukrainian-government-fighter-jets-shot-down-malaysian-airlines-mh17-it-was-not-a-buk-surface-to-air-missile/5394814 Malaysia accuses US and EU backed Ukraine regime of MH17 shoot-down "A Thursday article in the New Straits Times, Malaysia’s flagship English-language newspaper, charged the US- and European-backed Ukrainian regime in Kiev with shooting down Malaysian Airlines flight MH 17 in east Ukraine last month. Given the tightly controlled character of the Malaysian media, it appears that the accusation that Kiev shot down MH17 has the full backing of the Malaysian state. The US and European media have buried this remarkable report, which refutes the wave of allegations planted by the CIA in international media claiming that Russian president Vladimir Putin was responsible for the destruction of MH17, without presenting any evidence to back up this charge." http://4bitnews.com/world-at-war/malaysia-accuses-us-eu-backed-ukraine-regime-mh17-shoot/ | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 442 Registered: 09-2011 |
Apparently, an interesting discussion about robots capable of destroying life is starting to be woven into the robot manufacturing industry. http://www.activistpost.com/2014/08/canadian-robot-maker-first-to-denounce.html Among other things, this article points out that relatively conservative people are taking part in this discussion, that it isn't just the realm of conspiracy-minded UFO nuts, which lends credence to the seriousness of the subject. Taking it a step further, a trade group has been formed to help educate people about the dangers inherent to designing and building robotic life-destroyers. http://www.stopkillerrobots.org These people might be interested in what Herr Meier has said about this. I have not yet contacted them, in case you want to. Life | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1225 Registered: 07-2005 |
Darren the people that make up the 'dark order' group within a group 'who plays off against each other' are in the majority in their 60's and beyond. In the process of it all some will drop the bucket and help prevent the WW3/4 from happening Gee the irony of it all | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 449 Registered: 07-2009 |
Newinitiation, About the Global Elite or Dark Order, I found this article interesting. It's about the current crisis in Ukraine linked to many other past events and now the "Brics" countries. And many other things mentioned in the article. ‘They want their war and they want it now!’ "But things changed dramatically about two years ago when Russia and China began standing fast, voicing the world’s increasing weariness with the warmongering of these “horsemen.” Indeed, a red line had to finally be drawn that no one dare cross, only this time it wouldn’t be against Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya, but against the US and its allies. That is what happened a year ago when Russian President Vladimir Putin finally drew his red line on the US/UK/EU/Israel in Syria. Putin did not blink, but Obama did, and he’s been feeling the heat ever since. What does the global elite really want? Clearly, Mr. Putin and his team have won many moves on the global grand chessboard in recent times, repeatedly neutralizing Western endeavors to fabricate any excuse to go to full war against Iran and Syria, and even (partial?) war with Russia (and China). Sure, they still have the false flag option, and a big one might be on their drawing board right now, but that too is fast becoming harder and harder to sell, and their shelf lives are getting shorter and shorter too. If last year Russia drew a red on Syria that the US/UK/NATO/Israel dared not cross, this year they have done the same thing in the Ukraine, which is far, far closer to their home. But these are not isolated events and crises. They are part of a far greater game that is being played out globally which includes the NATO “missile shield” in Poland, clearly aimed at Russia and its allies. In July, for example, the BRICS countries – Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa – held a summit in Brazil during which they made a very concrete decision to start building a new, alternative global financial architecture founding strong multilateral financial institutions that are not aligned to the global mega-banksters. That represents a huge challenge and threat to the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, and a veritable dagger pointed at the weakened and easy-to-unbalance Western financial system." http://rt.com/op-edge/181320-us-warmongers-want-war-now/ | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 858 Registered: 05-2008 |
Darren, regarding that article & Russia/Putin, chess moves, drawing a 'red(line) on Syria', etc... I fail to see how Putin & China's policy of non-involvement in Syria has resulted in anything but an epic disaster. Obviously, no one nation should be a so-called global cop, however the ENTIRE worlds nations and peoples cannot just ignore such murder and destruction and must come together to handle such obvious crimes as what's going on in Syria, and in the form of a Nokodemion-like multi-national global peace-fighting force, even though in today's world, such has unfortunately near zero odds of being initiated, but at the very least, the idea should be brought up and out into national and international spheres. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/World_Peace_and_Multinational_Peace-Fighting_Troops And let's not get carried away, that just because the USA for ex., would love to hypocritically influence and in such a way, control global geo-politics and policy, in no way is Putin some angel of justice and rightness. At best he, along with China, is a counter-balance to US or EU designs and desires for global power, influence and hence control. That article is from a Putin controlled and biased website, where several journalists have recently quit over just such control over the flow information and propaganda at the expense of the truth. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_036 "Actually we know very precisely that Putin is a power-greedy element and is similarly pathologically autocratic and irresponsible, as is also US President George W. Bush and his vassals as well as many other power-greedy state powerful ones in the world." "Namely, under no circumstances do we do that, because Vladimir Vladimirovitch Putin is not a bit better than Bush and consorts. Were it possible for Putin, then he would - like Bush - already snatch world rule for himself today rather than tomorrow, in precisely the same way as the dictator, the European Union, and in precisely the same way as other state powers. Therefore it cannot be said that the facts relating to Putin's likewise criminal, military-political, machinations have been disregarded or had to have been named because, the fact is, that the talk, singly and alone, was about what Vladimir Putin openly named, at the World Security Conference in Munich, in view of the USA's criminal desire for world rule. " http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce | ||
Baselineplayer Member Post Number: 80 Registered: 09-2007 |
Many thanks, Earthling, I totally agree with you regarding Putin, Syria and the whole madness going on right now. Putin is a former colonel of the past KGB, residing in Dresden in the then DDR (East Germany). Ever since the fall of the USSR, Putin have been seeking to restore the past. Putin is a man of yesterday (20th Century), and is definitively not a man for today (21st Century and 3rd millennium). The Nokodemion style fighting peace troops would be the best way to stop psychopaths like Putin and other warmongers who are only greedy for power. Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards /Baselineplayer | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 452 Registered: 07-2009 |
Bruce, I know Putin is no angel of justice. "I fail to see how Putin & China's policy of non-involvement in Syria has resulted in anything but an epic disaster." Putin's non-involvement in Syria?? The trouble in Syria was instigated by the US/Israel to get rid of President Assad and if Putin had not gotten involved to stop it, it would have likely escalated into a West invasion and bloody ground war to install their own puppet government there. "At best he, along with China, is a counter-balance to US or EU designs and desires for global power, influence and hence control." No, not at best. Have you forgotten what Billy said in CR 442 that if Putin stops continuing taking this (hard) line against the US then the danger of a worldwide war remains constant? Maybe you need a refreshment of what was said in that short Contact Report. Contact Report 442 Synopsis Billy and Ptaah discuss the Russian President Vladimir Putin's public speech about the USA's ( which Billy describes as "the devil incarnate" ) desire to be ruler of the planet Earth. Billy: That also applies to my side. But tell me what you have to say about this: today I heard in the news that the Russian President, Putin, at the Munich Security Conference, has energetically spoken his mind regarding the politics of the USA. Putin said that the USA is striving for world rule, respectively, world power, and thereby also promotes the resuming of the arms race, interferes in the trade of foreign countries and practices warlike actions. Ptaah: That is actually something extraordinary that I saw just two days ago through a look into the future. Therefore your and our explanatory efforts, in regard to the USA's real machinations and plans for world rule, bear the first fruit, which Russia's President Putin has now brought to ripeness, in that he named the actual and reprehensible facts which rage in US politics. But that doesn't come from an estimation, because the facts named by you and by us in your bulletins cannot be overlooked, consequently they are also studied in Russia, whereby finally President Putin's public speech resulted. This will certainly not remain unanswered, because already mendacious denials are being spread from the USA that Putin's utterances did not correspond to the truth. However, the fact is that the USA - with the foreign policies it operates and with the criminal military war actions and secret service actions - makes the world situation ever more unsafe and forces other countries to arm themselves. With normal politics and military politics the USA therefore carries out assistance towards worldwide insecurity and terrorism, as they however, through their criminal and felonious foreign policies, also stir up angst in other countries about a military invasion of US armed forces, whereby these countries are forced to develop atomic weapons programs in order to manufacture weapons which correspond to this. Billy: Every rational human in the world knows that Putin is, however, correct in his speech. It is only to hope that he continues to take the same line and thereby the entire world will be shaken up in order to stop the USA's criminal machinations and plans to rule the world. If that does not happen, then the danger of a worldwide war remains constant, and indeed so long until the USA pulls out of the entire world, back to its own country, and leaves the world in peace, as well as allowing the individual countries to solve their own religious and political problems. When one thinks that, since as long as anyone can remember, never has collectively so much harm, death, murder, torture, destruction and disaster happened on the Earth as it has come about through the fault of the USA and will further come about, as it has resulted and results since the USA interferes in the interests of other countries and started and starts wars, as well as revolts and revolutions, as well as murder and other crimes through the US secret services and US military, then, regarding USAmerica, the devil incarnate can be spoken of. Ptaah: I also see it that way, because it corresponds to the truth http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_442 | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 859 Registered: 05-2008 |
Darren, I couldn't disagree more with your analysis of Syria. Are you saying Assad has murdered over 100,000 of his own peoples and reduced his country to rubble because the US/Israel wanted to get rid of him? I am no expert on the situation there but that seems illogical and ridiculous to be blaming that psychopath's murdering and destructive rampage on what you suggest but I'm open to enlightenment on the issue. Regarding why I said Putin was a 'counter-balance' to US/EU designs, you are splitting hairs as that CCR excerpt says precisely the same thing. http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 454 Registered: 07-2009 |
I have not been in a good mood the past couple of days. Sorry about my rants. | ||
Baselineplayer Member Post Number: 82 Registered: 09-2007 |
Putin is definitively not a "counter-balance". He is just a power corrupted autocratic leader who is dangerous to lead conflicts into a new world war. He has nukes. He wants a return to "good old days" when the then USSR was at its height of power. The world is full of psychopaths and idiots in leading positions. That doesn't make me feel good at all. We could suddenly wake up to a world engulfed in a war one day. That will be with huge disappointment that I see the mankind still behave like idiots in the 3rd millenium. It seem not be able to learn from its history. Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards /Baselineplayer | ||
Rintintin Member Post Number: 79 Registered: 04-2012 |
Hi... Here we have only two military powers that are competing to rule the word. The difference between Putin and Obama is that while Putin raises the conservative country and Russian culture, Obama is doing exactly the opposite here in USA, destroying American culture,supporting gay marriage laws ect... Putin Rule in Russia... Obama Rule through the shadows Government, the CABAL... | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 698 Registered: 12-2009 |
Rintin, What proof do you have that Obama is destroying American culture? If you were studying you would know that equality for homosexuals is covered under Billy's teaching. Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 447 Registered: 09-2011 |
That Herr Meier doesn't endorse prejudice against homosexuals has been used in argument after argument on this forum to promote homosexual marriage. I don't see his comments as supporting that at all. There is a difference between being okay with homosexuality, and then taking the magic leap of stating that it is the same thing as heterosexuality. Equality doesn't mean sameness. Equality is generally used to refer to equal rights, as in equal rights to live creatively, or equal rights to be treated with respect. This doesn't mean sameness. In other words, a marriage between two attracted opposites, a man vs. a woman, is simply not the same as a partnership between two people of the same sex and similar ways of thinking. To say that these are the same kind of relationships is just loony. Idunno, maybe because die-hard homosexuals haven't ever experienced the biological imperative of falling in love with someone you can't completely understand, they aren't aware that this is a vastly different experience from a like-minded friendship. So round and round this argument goes, as if we are supposed to ignore this little bit of common sense in order to validate homosexuality. The truth is, a homosexual partnership is not the same thing as a marriage, and equality does not mean sameness. As for President Obama changing the American culture, I gotta agree that while he doesn't support what has been the traditional American culture, his office simply doesn't have the power to directly change the culture of the American people. That power lies vested in Hollywood, the mainstream news media, the publishing and art scenes, and increasingly the online and video gaming industries, all of whom take great American liberties in rewriting history to support their own take on things. What Obama is doing is altering the demographic of the American people. He is changing who lives in America, and the culture of the "New American People" is imported with them. These are the very issues that are driving our country to civil war. Where is the common ground here? Respect for one another, perhaps? Respect for the integrity of cultures, of populations, of common sets of ethics, perhaps? We can't learn respect for others if we only see ourselves as so righteous that the other argument, or the other side, should be destroyed. There is nothing wrong with being different, at least not in my eyes. If someone wants to get up a wild hair about how different they are, that doesn't have anything to do with me, it's all them. But please don't tell me that I am supposed to think that we are all the same, 'cause we ain't, and I prefer to see reality exactly as it is. Life | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 699 Registered: 12-2009 |
The teaching in Lehrschrift says equality and equivalence for all lifeforms. That's what the two words translated as. I see at as including gay marriage, you don't. Apples to oranges I suppose (two peoples being individuals). At least you do not seem to be xenophobic, have a good one Michael. Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 448 Registered: 04-2006 |
Michaelhelfert, I have the same line of thought as you about homosexuality. Homosexuals want equal rights as heterosexuals, and I think they should have some rights but not all. A few years ago while doing my shopping I saw two homosexual men holding hands and kissing in the shopping center. It made me cringe, almost sickened me that I had to look away. These two guys had no respect for other people and children that could see them. Is it right or good for children to see this backward behaviour? I don't think so. I got nothing against homosexuals as long as they keep this (sick) behaviour behind closed doors. My opinion is this form of behaviour should also be taken off our TV screens. I think homosexuals should have rights but please I don't want to see it. | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 41 Registered: 04-2009 |
the thing is that i trusted Obama also to be the best guy for the job. but i cant help to see that this last year he is on a road to destruction and or HE MUST BE BLIND OR HIS ADVISORS ARE PLAYING TRICKS WITH HIM ! Either way he is very very dumb and weak !! He should arest guys like Mc Cain / Cheny and put a stop to private military compenies that provoce wars and manipulate us into wars. So either hes blind,corrupted,stuppid or weak ! | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2482 Registered: 12-1999 |
Perhaps he is thinking of his safety and the safety of his family? | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 708 Registered: 08-2004 |
Here is what CR 544 of 1 Sep 2012 says about Obama (in English followed by the German) after Billy enquires into what will come to the USA if it experiences a collapse: IN ENGLISH Ptaah: We will continue to give you information if you want it or if you think it could be necessary to make a prediction publicly, whereby it must then be, however, a question of your own, and only about something very special that no longer falls into the old scope of the predictions. And that which you mention with respect to that which I have said in regard to the US president, Barack Obama, corresponds to the facts. He will be blamed for serious things which do not correspond to his own decision, but which he simply must inevitably endorse, and he will be maliciously negatively blamed – for much of what he wants to achieve, in the form of positive changes or that which he has achieved for the direct welfare benefit of the poorer segments of the population – by the envious, the power-greedy and the rich, and, with evil means, attempts will be made again to bring to an end the good that he has achieved. However, that which results if the USA should fall into ruin indicates that, under certain circumstances, a dictatorship and naked Gewalt will arise, which has already begun to emerge for years. The people of the United States are taken on an ever shorter leash, financially exploited, and everything from which profit can be made is withheld from them, for which primarily the rich and their followers as well as those elite in the government are responsible, who only represent their overflowing wealth, their monetary greed and their absolute personal interests. However, this corresponds exactly to the opposite of Barack Obama's ideas, as he wants prosperity and the best for the people as well as for the country itself. And this political and government elite consists of both Republicans, as well as Democrats. Valuable reforms to the welfare of the population and the country are not sought. Thus the already profound poverty among the people continuously escalates, while the wealthy ever further enrich themselves, so that the social inequality gains ground ever faster. Thus, with a collapse of the USA, only two possibilities can be considered, whereby, with the one, it boils down to a dictatorship with evil reprisals and great Gewalt, while the other possibility may be a new reconstruction, if people who are fundamentally conscious of their responsibilities attain government and really do everything to bring about an effective and valuable new start. But whether this will actually occur, is currently extremely questionable, because presently, in a totalitarian manner, everything is directed towards interests which are economic, military, political and cultural – as well as towards that which is strict fundamentalist religious-sectarian – and based on enormous lies and devious, misanthropic, criminal and felonious machinations in every imaginable regard. This also means that the population of the USA is spied upon by the secret services and even severely within the neighbourhoods, and so forth, and, in every possible manner being restricted in its freedom, and this is in addition to the Gewalt, as it emerges in some form or other, both openly and covertly. Also, in relation to China, I must remain with my statements, just as I must concerning that the USA is a superpower which spreads worldwide death, ruin and destruction as well as hatred and intrigues, whereby the world-embracing terrorism is further steadily promoted. With death-bringing, remote-controlled drones, Obama fights according to the will of those others who have forced him to so do, and now have pushed all the might and responsibility for that onto him alone. And as to the matter concerning the US government, the CIA, and yourself, the following is to say: that there was a 92 percent chance of our prediction being correct – about the failure of the attempt to make contact – due to the arrogance of the US government and the contacted CIA personnel, however, an 8 percent possibility remained open that there could have still been a slight success. This is particularly so because agents were lodging in the "Brückenwaage" restaurant in Dussnang and maintained contact with L. in the Centre. For this reason, there was a very slight hope. And so we assumed that, I must confess, we ourselves have also thereby attached certain expectations, when we allowed you to attempt to make contact with the government of the USA, because a slight success could indeed have resulted. IN GERMAN Ptaah: Wir werden dir weiterhin Informationen geben, wenn du das willst oder wenn es deiner Meinung nach notwendig sein könnte, eine Voraussage öffentlich zu machen, wobei es sich dann jedoch um eine Frage deinerseits und nur um etwas ganz Spezielles handeln muss, das nicht mehr in den alten Rahmen der Voraussagen fällt. Und was du erwähnst bezüglich dem, was ich in Hinsicht auf den US-Präsidenten Barack Obama gesagt habe, das entspricht den Tatsachen. Es werden ihm schwerwiegende Dinge angelastet, die nicht seiner eigenen Entscheidung entsprechen, sondern die er einfach zwangsläufig billigen muss, und vieles davon, was er an positiven Veränderungen will oder zum direkten Wohlfahrtsnutzen ärmerer Bevölkerungsteile erreicht hat, wird ihm von Neidern, Machtgierigen und Reichen böswillig negativ angelastet, und es wird mit bösen Mitteln versucht, das Gute, das er erreicht hat, wieder abzuschaffen. Was sich aber ergibt, wenn die USA in den Ruin verfallen sollten, dann bedeutet das, dass unter Umständen eine Diktatur und nackte Gewalt aufkommen, was sich bereits seit Jahren abzeichnet. Das Volk der USA wird immer kürzer an die Leine genommen, finanziell ausgebeutet, und es wird ihm alles vorenthalten, wovon es profitieren könnte, wofür hauptsächlich die Reichen und deren Anhänger sowie jene Elite in der Regierung verantwortlich sind, die nur ihren überbordenden Wohlstand, ihre Geldgier und ihre absolut persönlichen Interessen vertreten. Dies aber entspricht genau dem Gegenteil von Barack Obamas Ideen, der sowohl Gutes und Bestes für das Volk, wie aber auch für den Staat selbst will. Und diese Polit- und Regierungselite besteht sowohl aus Republikanern, wie aber auch aus Demokraten. Wertvolle Reformen zum Wohl der Bevölkerung und des Staates sind nicht gefragt. So greift die bereits tiefgreifende Armut unter dem Volk stetig weiter um sich, während sich die Reichen immer weiter bereichern, wodurch die gesellschaftliche Ungleichheit immer schneller um sich greift. So können bei einem Zusammenbruch der USA nur zwei Möglichkeiten in Betracht gezogen werden, wobei die eine auf eine Diktatur mit bösen Repressalien und grosser Gewalt hinausläuft, während die andere Möglichkeit ein Neuaufbau sein kann, wenn grundlegend verantwortungsbewusste Leute an die Regierung gelangen und wirklich alles tun, um einen effektiven und wertvollen Neubeginn herbeizuführen. Ob sich das allerdings ereignen wird, ist zur Zeit äusserst fraglich, denn gegenwärtig ist alles totalitär auf wirtschaftliche, militärische, politische und kulturelle sowie auf streng fundamentalistisch religiös-sektiererische Interessen und auf ungeheure Lügen und hinterhältige, menschenverachtende, kriminelle und verbrecherische Machenschaften in jeder erdenklichen Beziehung ausgerichtet. Das bedeutet auch, dass die Bevölkerung der USA durch die Geheimdienste und gar streng nachbarschaftlich usw. bespitzelt und in jeder möglichen Weise in deren Freiheit eingeschränkt wird, und dies nebst der Gewalt, wie diese offen und versteckt in mancherlei Form in Erscheinung tritt. Auch bezüglich China muss ich bei meinen gemachten Aussagen bleiben, wie auch dass die USA eine Supermacht sind, die weltweit Tod, Verderben und Zerstörung sowie Hass und Intrigen verbreiten, wodurch der weltumfassende Terrorismus stetig weiter gefördert wird, den Obama nach dem Willen jener unter anderem mit ferngesteuerten todbringenden Drohnen bekämpft, welche ihn dazu gezwungen haben und nunmehr die ganze Macht und Verantwortung dafür auf ihn allein abschieben. Und was die Sache mit der US-Regierung, der CIA und mit dir betrifft, ist folgendes zu sagen: Dass der Kontaktaufnahmeversuch misslingen wird, war infolge der Selbstherrlichkeit der USRegierung und der kontaktierten CIA-Leute zu rund 92 Prozent voraussichtlich, jedoch blieb eine achtprozentige Möglichkeit offen, dass sich doch noch ein geringer Erfolg einstellen könnte. Dies insbesondere deshalb, weil sich Agenten im Restaurant ‹Brückenwaage› in Dussnang einnisteten und im Center mit L. Kontakt hielten. Aus diesem Grunde bestand eine geringe Hoffnung; und so nahmen wir an, das muss ich gestehen, haben wir selbst damit auch gewisse Erwartungen verbunden, als wir dir erlaubten zu versuchen, mit der Regierung der USA Kontakt aufzunehmen, denn ein geringer Erfolg hätte sich ja ergeben können. So we allowed you to undertake an attempt, whereby it then, however, unfortunately all proved to be illusory. And it was indeed no more than an attempt. But we also did not want to just pass over your insistence, in order that you could see for yourself that an undertaking such as that is very difficult. But the only eight percent open possibility that something positive could be achieved was indeed not crowned with success. Also erlaubten wir dir, einen Versuch zu unternehmen, wobei sich dann jedoch leider alles als illusorisch erwiesen hat. Und mehr als ein Versuch war es ja nicht. Wir wollten aber auch nicht einfach über dein Drängen hinweggehen, damit du selbst erkennen konntest, dass ein solches Unternehmen sehr schwierig ist. Die nur acht Prozent offene Möglichkeit, dass etwas Positives hätte erreicht werden können, war dann aber doch nicht von Erfolg gekrönt. Chris Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 888 Registered: 07-2009 |
> More than perhaps…more than likely. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 863 Registered: 05-2008 |
This is not quite WW3 based on FIGU material but perhaps it is considering a few of the comments here, as homosexuality may indeed be the cause of the next world conflagration!  .. with that intro - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/04/phil-robertson-jesus-homophobe_n_5767140.html "The "Duck Dynasty" star responded by claiming: “I’m as much of a homophobe as Jesus was. People who are participating in homosexual behavior, they need to know that I love them.” http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce |
