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Vincent
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Post Number: 172
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 06:30 pm: | 
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Will Billy and Figu write something about this to warn the world in the hope that some leaders and powerful people may listen, do something and avert it escalating further?
MH, will you start a blog on this to spread this disturbing news? |
Ilovebilly
Member
Post Number: 368
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2014 - 08:39 am: |
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I think
If wiki leaks was fair dinkum you would not hear them
mentioned in lame stream media and they probably
would be shut down
Salome
Ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 915
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2014 - 01:43 pm: |
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Hi Vincent,
I've been blogging about information related to the Russian military movements for many months.
Please also see my Nov. 2 blog. |
Vincent
Member
Post Number: 173
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Monday, November 03, 2014 - 02:13 pm: |
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Hi Michael,
I know you have been blogging about Russian military movements for many months now and I have seen your November 2 blog too, but isn't this big time change in diplomacy action from Russia and Putin something different and is like the next level up? We seen many times in the past what happens when diplomacy fails. Wars begin. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 917
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 03, 2014 - 07:30 pm: |
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> Please read my November 3 blog…and some of the comments on it too. |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 252
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2014 - 06:57 am: |
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Vincent,
Billy has been doing this for the last 50 to 60 years,why do you think if that all of the other warnings were ignored for decades,that all of a sudden if he writes something now that things will change,or especially,that they will care? You are talking about the human trash of the world,remember. |
Vincent
Member
Post Number: 174
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2014 - 07:22 pm: |
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Blake,
What's the harm (or effort) in Billy saying something to warn us again? (also we got different leaders from 50 years ago) We are talking about preventing WW3 here so imo it is worth Billy repeating it over and over again and keeping up to date with current world events. We know most nations are closely following the Meier case. Maybe some of those numb skulls in power will eventually get the message and do something positive to avert WW3. Anything is worth a try. Doing nothing is like giving up imo. I heard many people here say that we should be focused on doing the peace meditation in these dangerous times but we got billions of ET's that been doing the PM on our behalf for decades now and it does not appear to have helped that much judging by where we are at now. So I don't think a few thousand extra Earthlings doing the PM is going to change anything.
Sorry to sound pessimistic about the Peace Meditation helping to avert WW3. |
Geestkraker
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2014 - 09:58 pm: |
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"As we analyse today’s situation, let us not forget history’s lessons. First of all, changes in the world order – and what we are seeing today are events on this scale – have usually been accompanied by if not global war and conflict, then by chains of intensive local-level conflicts. Second, global politics is above all about economic leadership, issues of war and peace, and the humanitarian dimension, including human rights."
Putin's speech at the Valdai Club - full transcript
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.dk/2014/10/putins-speech-at-valdai-club-full.html |
Vincent
Member
Post Number: 175
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2014 - 10:34 pm: |
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Spanish TV reporter Jaime Maussan who did a (good) report on the Billy Meier case some 30 years ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pCR37DA8Ns - has now done a report on Wikileaks (AKA US Government front) about it leaking multiple top secret documents on UFOs. The underlying message of these documents and transcripts of Embassy personnel is that UFOs are to be feared. It seems clear now that Wikileaks is just a tool helping the US Government/Dark Order, in this case, with their UFO scare campaign and it's future fake ET attack.
"Julian Assange accepted in an interview with The Guardian Newspaper in December 2010 that some Governments are concerned about UFOs."
WIKILEAKS UFO.TOP SECRET.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ4PcmavFVI |
Hawaiian
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Post Number: 216
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 12:29 am: |
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Vincent,
You have a valid point about the Peace Meditation and the intent of its participants which comprises of billions of ET’s and a few thousand Earthly humans to neutralize the negative energies produced by the degenerates of Earth. The biggest problem with this approach is that it does not address the root of the problem (Cause) but focuses on the (Effect), the negative influences/energies produced by these degenerates.
An analogy can be deduced with similar fashion to the Peace Meditation process as “cleaning up the feces that these degenerates produce daily”! It will not solve the problem until these degenerates learn to clean up and dispose their own waste and not pollute and destroy the planet.
Since these degenerates operate at a much lower level often rarely beyond the material conscious realm and the majority of their “efforts” are mainly stored as negative values in the material subconscious of both themselves and the victimized humans they oppress, what good will impulses from the spiritual realms do to influence these degenerates who are primarily obsessed with greed and lust for power?
Trying to reason with these degenerates at a higher level of creational endeavors are just futile attempts to define illogical events with logical application, it will never work since they currently operate at a much lower level of existence, which is parasitic in nature. In other words, they exist at the expense of others, the same way as the overlords, their counter-parts who fled with the DNA manipulated warriors, Giza Intelligences, other ET races and members of Pelegon colony on Earth. All those involved in the persecution of Earthly inhabitants have their input both positive and negative, stored in the material subconscious memory banks here as well as in their prospective locations throughout the DERN universe.
Since these Earthly parasites do not adhere to creational endeavors or only appear to do so at a selfish materialistic level often depraving the masses, their only “love and compassion” are derived at great costs and risks for the entire Earth. Therefore the only avenue that will positively influence their material consciousness is to address their current realm of existence which is negative in nature is to apply “negative” influences to negate the negativeness so that the Effect becomes neutrally positive.
For example when a degenerate suddenly experience a lost that they “love” after they commit a crime, they will often start to ponder at the reason(s) why it occurred and start to connect those two events when more such events start occurring. There will be a time and place when these degenerates start to have higher forms of self-generating impulses like compassion for their lost (Effect) and relate it to GUILT (Cause). It is the opposite of creational law of Cause and Effect and makes absolutely logic when the entire spectrum of events are placed on opposite sides of an equation between the degenerates and those who they oppress. It is a sort of Equalization between the negative forces/energy and positive, which also balances the memory banks as well, at least on the appropriate currently living personality of both the aggressor and victims.
The Peace Meditation are thought generated endeavors of the neutral slightly positive nature that deals with the higher forms of “resolution” or balancing for those who choose to adhere to creational endeavors. However it does not address the complexity of this Equational Attributes between the degenerates and their victimized humans. Sometimes it makes more logical sense to influence a negative situation by negating that negative with another negative so that it produces a balance and positive outcome.
The Might of Thoughts can be both positive and negative, depending on what the desired outcome is to be pursued. Maybe the Peace Meditation should concentrate on a limited base, reverse their established criteria and use the negative negation method, or if these ET’s refuse, then the Earthly ones could take it upon themselves to direct their own efforts since we have no option but to be exterminated when the prophecy becomes reality? This is my opinion |
Blake_p
Member
Post Number: 254
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 12:40 pm: |
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Vincent,
You are contradicting your own points, saying we shouldn't give up and try anything,but then saying the peace meditation doesn't work.
Besides,Billy did just give us another warning just a couple months ago through Micheal H that WW3 could break out as soon as this month or possibly 2 years from now. Yes some secret organizations and some government officials know about Billy and may even be following very closely. Does it look like anyone cares,and even more than that, it's pretty obvious that there are some leaders(Putin) that are actively trying to move the Prophecies forward.
Lastly, what exactly isn't valid about Billy's warnings then,that couldn't be applied to everything that is going on now. Leaders may change but his predictions are,and were back then,about everything going on today. If you reissued his letters from 58' and 63'( yrs maybe off) today they would address exactly all of our problems.
To be honest,Billy has done his job,and I'm not saying he won't do more,but now is the time for the rest of us to take responsibility,stop waiting for a Billy or the P's to do or say everything and make a difference ourselves,in whatever capacity that you can accomplish within the bounds of your life. |
Vincent
Member
Post Number: 176
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 08:34 pm: |
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Hawaiian,
I think so too regarding the peace meditation because even Billy said "Even 100 billion persons are not enough if there are people who don't want to make peace, but prefer quarrel and war."
Ritak
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 10:00 am:
Dear Billy,
I hope you are well. I am wondering about the effects of the peace meditation. If there are 3.5 billion Extraterrestrials + 4000 or so Earthlings doing the peace meditation and that is not enough to stop a third world war, how many more participants would it take to stop the war?
Thank you!
Salome,
Rita
Answer
Even 100 billion persons are not enough if there are people who don't want to make peace, but prefer quarrel and war.
Peace meditation slightly influences a vibration. It is no coercion.
The free will of any person is guaranteed.
As a rule only persons respond to these vibrations who do not strive for power, who are modest and who are peace-loving. This is a minority only, unfortunately. However, in the course of time this minority will become the majority.
Blake,
I think you misunderstood me because I never said the peace meditation doesn't work. I said "it does not appear to have helped that much judging by where we are at now."
I understand what you are getting at there but I don't see the harm in Billy releasing more warnings as things appear to escalate to a third world war. I know Billy has been a lone wolf howling about WW3 for many decades now but I would just like to see him continuing to howl about it more often as we approach it, if we are. Who knows, it may help avert it? But maybe you are right and it is just me taking comfort in seeing Billy continuing to howl. |
Geestkraker
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 07:50 pm: |
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>>>> [...] it's pretty obvious that there are some leaders(Putin) that are actively trying to move the Prophecies forward.
Excuse me, but isn't it pretty obvious that it is USA, NATO and EU (and our media), if anybody, that effectually are the ones that are pushing these prophecies forward? And isn't it exactly what the Plejaren are saying?
I recommend this article:
http://truth-out.org/news/item/26711-mainstream-news-coverage-of-ukraine-malaysia-airlines-flight-17-shows-western-propaganda-machine-at-work-edward-s-herman
Cheers
Geestkraker |
Geestkraker
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 03:29 am: |
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Blake_p wrote...
"[...] it's pretty obvious that there are some leaders(Putin) that are actively trying to move the Prophecies forward."
Excuse me, but isn't it rather obvious that it is USA, NATO, EU and our mass-media (aka the weapons of mass-distraction) that are pushing these prophecies forward? And isn't this exactly what the Plejaren are also saying?
I recommend reading this interview:
http://truth-out.org/news/item/26711-mainstream-news-coverage-of-ukraine-malaysia-airlines-flight-17-shows-western-propaganda-machine-at-work-edward-s-herman
And btw. Putin didn't say global war was inevitable as can seen in the excerpt of the transcript of his speech that I posted further above. But it is definitely a warning - a polite one. The people of "the West" should pay more attention to them as it is exactly us that are paving way for the trouble to spin (more) out of hand. |
Vincent
Member
Post Number: 177
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 10:31 pm: |
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MH (and others), I am not "vincentg" who posts on your theyfly blog. Just thought I let that be known. |
Vincent
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Post Number: 178
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 02:55 pm: |
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Geestkraker.
I think the same way that it is USA, NATO and the EU pushing for WW3 rather then Russia.
This 3 minute clip interview with US Military State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki is a good example showing the warmongering thinking process behind the US and Nato.
'You're moving closer to Russia and blame Russians for being close to NATO'
Oct 17, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LexhW8SCM2c |
Vincent
Member
Post Number: 179
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 03:02 pm: |
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Sorry it's not US State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki. I don't know who that US military spokesperson is. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 918
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 06:05 pm: |
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> From the Henoch Prophecies:
Far in the West, it will be different; the United States of America will be a country of total destruction. The cause for this will be manifold. With her global conflicts which are continuously instigated by her and which will continue far into the future, America is creating enormous hatred against her, worldwide, in many countries. As a result, America will experience enormous catastrophes which will reach proportions barely imaginable to people of Earth. The destruction of the WTC, i.e., the World Trade Center, by terrorists will only be the beginning…
But death, destruction and annihilation will not only rage in Europe but also in America, where much suffering will have to be endured and many deaths as well as destruction and annihilation will be. America and Russia will have the most terrible weapons of mass destruction at their disposal—a fact which is already the case to a certain extent today—and will clash with violent force against each other at that time of conflict, whereby Canada will also be dragged into this conflict. The source of this conflict will substantiate the Russian attack on the American State of Alaska and against Canada. |
Vincent
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Post Number: 180
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 01:02 pm: |
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Hi Michael,
Yes, it is the US that is most to blame for instigating these wars. More so then NATO and the EU. Here's proof how the CIA forces its will to push for war on it's allies, in this case on the European Media.
European media writing pro-US stories under CIA pressure - German journo
Published on Oct 18, 2014
"German journalist and editor Udo Ulfkotte says he was forced to publish the works of intelligence agents under his own name, adding that noncompliance ran the risk of being fired."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGqi-k213eE |
Hawaiian
Member
Post Number: 217
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 04:59 pm: |
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It will be unfortunate to “allow” the Henoch prophecy to occur which will set back hundreds if not thousands of years of evolutionary progress gained through much trial and error, countless sufferings, world wars including various ET disruptions and interferences. Although these various ET’s are no longer presently residing on Earth, their past and current endeavors are all stored and being stored likewise in their prospective memory banks.
They are certainly still connected via the memory banks to Earthly inhabitants as well and this Peace Meditation process if applied in a different avenue than currently endeavored, can actually make a huge difference in influencing the negative outcome of the Henoch prophecy simply for the fact if applied in the way of “negation” of negative Effect in order to neutralize it also has another Effect of balancing some of the negative experiences already stored in past personalities in both the memory banks here on Earth as well as those on appropriate home planets where these current reincarnated spirit forms reside on.
These ET’s who have such memory banks also may have the necessary technology to verify which spirit-forms are linked together in order to specifically target such degenerate personality(s) who are in material influential positions to make a difference in not only balancing their negative self-induced impulses, but to also balance both the victimized being and the ET’s as well. Everyone benefits, it reminds me of an incident once when I was home sitting my older sister and husband’s house for a few days when they went on vacation.
They had a large house with two large male dogs, one a Doberman Pincher and Labrador dog. I was barbecuing some rib eye steaks and that undisciplined greedy Lab kept barking non-stop, salivating profusely and begging for food. He would not listen to STF up, so I started cooking a large bone section, made it well done and threw it to the dog. He greedily chomped down on it, screamed in pain and spat it out, being so hot he still tried to swallow it whole but can’t. All he did was growl at it, but can’t satisfy his greed at the moment and had to wait until it cooled off. Lesson learned, that dog never acted up again when there was food around.
If animals can learn from this example, then it makes no difference for so called “higher” evolved humans who are no different than lower forms whenever they succumb to greed and lust for power, for they need to learn from pain and suffering for their own good since it’s not advisable to try to swallow an extremely hot meal just to satisfy some instant desire based on greed or lust for power.
With the proper technology, it is possible to find the appropriate link(s) between the relevant parties via the memory banks and create a circumstance usually in dreams to illicit the necessary response or influence to steer events in proper alignment and to also set up the appropriate criteria between both the aggressor and victim waking realms via the material subconscious through the waking thought negation processes.
The 4,000 or so Earthly spirit forms are no longer influenced by religious nonsense, but do not know where to “throw that hot bone to”, but maybe the other 3.5 billion ET’s know a better place where it fits nicely in the Equational Attribute Formulation? |
Blake_p
Member
Post Number: 255
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2014 - 07:56 am: |
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Geestkraker,
No excuse me,
If that's is the only thing you chose to pick out of my post to comment on. I figured that with the people here being knowledgeable through Figu info on current and even future events that I wouldn't have to post a list of all the atrocious human beings that run this planet and who throw it down to the lowest level at every turn.
Yea I here this a lot here, who is most responsible,and finger pointing,especially at America,which I don't disagree because of all the horrendous things that my country has and continues to perpetuate. But honestly, do you live in a utopia from which you can feel free to place blame. Your country( I'm assuming your in the U.K.) is completely complicit in all of these problems as well,aren't you our closest ally. My point being is that there is no country that isn't part of this putrid problem. If the U.S. did a complete 180 all of a sudden,do you not think somebody will jump in and take our place. This problem is systemic,all the way around.
Even more importantly,what are you doing personally to change things? I doubt you are in front of parliament picketing the USA or whatever else. So back to my original point, we can sit here and talk and place blame,which I understand because it's relevant and conversational,but after that,what is your personal responsibility since you feel this way,are you just going to talk about how bad things are or do something about it,whatever that may be.
Remember,if your not part of the solution,then your part of the problem.
And I mentioned Putin specifically because Ptaah had recently mentioned him as far out maneuvering the rest of the world leaders. And regardless of the intentions of the U.S.,I doubt his goal is world peace. |
Jones7c
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2014 - 06:32 pm: |
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Has anyone read/seen this article:
http://rt.com/news/181076-isis-islam-militans-france/
I know it's a few months old, but someone pointed this out to me today as they remembered me mentioning France and fundamentalist Islam to them from the HP.
As if things don't change it's another item off the gewalt bucket list. I've considered that one to be an "absolute point of no return" as far as an opportunity to actually divert that predetermination.
I think everyone knows where I'm going with this, so I'll let your thoughts speak for themselves. |
Vincent
Member
Post Number: 194
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 10:33 pm: |
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Here is confirmation from Billy to back up peoples comments here that it is the US and EU that are the current trouble makers and threat to World War 3 and not so much Russia.
I didn't even have to mention the events (M17) and trouble (US,EU,NATO) in Ukraine which I assume Billy is referring to.
Vincent
Hi Billy,
How is the threat and possibility of World War 3 looking now and can you give us any new information about it now too?
Salome Vincent
What can be said is that at the moment there is much blundering („es wird Scheiss gebaut“) happening in our world. Especially because of the machinations of the US and the EU, the threat is growing. They (US/EU) should abstain from putting pressure on Putin; he’s more reasonable than they are.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/1871.html?1416805625 |
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