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    Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 489 Registered: 09-2011 |
Votan, I don't want to spar with you; feel free to believe whatever you want to believe. Just keep it clear and state whose misconceptions you are regurgitating, and that way you will keep the rest of us happy. Life | ||
Verlanis Member Post Number: 108 Registered: 10-2012 |
The 2029 and 2036 years are the Apophis years, but the rest of the date references I am completely ignorant of simply because they are NOT presented in any version of the English CRs. The Plejaren were done officially in 1995 just like they said with only charity, and personal visits to Billy and whomever else they see under the radar. Frankly, Putin will not be the President that Russia becomes far more aggressive under unless stuff really heats up. It was 6 years before I realized Billy was right about Obama to the point of tears of epiphany. At the current rate of USA collapse, a civil war does seem extremely likely if idiocy continues to happen. Jack -- | ||
Colorado_dirk Member Post Number: 39 Registered: 10-2007 |
On a positive note, there has been some truth-telling on an international level by Gordon Duff of the veteranstoday site, in Damascus no less. This guy is awesome and somewhat fearless for calling out those who shall not be named: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12/13/historic-speech-in-damascus-sends-shockwaves-around-the-world/ Quote: "Duff explained that what is going on in Iraq and Syria with ISIS is not Terrorism, it is simply CRIME. That is, it is the works of an international Crime Cabal which has gotten control of the American Congress. Yes, this is a large Organized Crime problem that must be understood at its simple root cause. Duff identified this Crime Cabal as Israeli and pointed out that this is Worldwide Crime on a scale never experienced before." .. of course there will be little to nothing in the western bought-and-paid-for media outlets. At least Mr. Duff went all-in with his position. Let's see where this goes. Verlanis, Yes, the US appears close to a meltdown from civil war. The occupy cw was narrowly averted, but can they contain the current strife? The bankers are now legally bailed-in with derivatives gambling, police brutality peaking, employment low, falling oil prices pulling the plug on profits, household name stores going out of business left&right, admissions by admin about 'stupid people'... momentum is building for a backlash of epic proportions. Just add natural disasters coupled with an ineptitude for governmental assistance or irresponsibility/indifference. Lookout, it's about to get really interesting. Oh dear... Cheers. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 149 Registered: 04-2011 |
Why does the US play such an crucial part in the destiny of our planet? It was Atlantis that destroyed Mu with nuclear forces. Many of those living in those turbulent times seem to be reborn in our time. A time when nuclear forces again threaten life on our planet. If Edgar Cayce’s readings are a measure then out of some 1,600 personal life readings some 700 (43.75 %) referred to incarnations in Atlantis. Many were associated in assisting those creating “the destructive forces”. According to him these rebirths occurred in our time because these persons deeply understand the danger our world is in – their past experience directing them to correct their faults. Edcar Cayce (reading 364-1): “Be it true that there is the fact of reincarnation and that souls that once occupied such an environ (i.e. Atlantis) are entering the earth’s sphere and inhabiting individuals in the present, is it any wonder that – if they made such alterations in the affairs of the earth in their day, as to bring destruction upon themselves – if they are entering now, they might make changes in the affairs of peoples and individuals at present…” To understand our being here we have to understand that cause and effect unites our past and present. Salome, Bill | ||
Verlanis Member Post Number: 109 Registered: 10-2012 |
Nice post on the words from the Sleeping Prophet. He was definitely an incredible case for psionic potency on the order that I've seen only a couple of others, not including BEAM, which were his like in different areas of potency. An older prophecy has contained my attention just as much as BEAM's material, that which is called Prognostications of Paracelsus or something close to that. They are more quizical, older, and less clear than BEAM's clarity, but they are no less accurate or stupifying than BEAM's own works. Paracelsus' book is rather ridiculous once it's messages are slightly decoded because it hits on multiple strings; literally the only occult work I've found that rival's BEAM especially considering Paracelsus' soul was very far in advance from his contemporaries. Concerning WWZ(pun intended), Paracelsus own format mirrored BEAM's and the Plejaren in context and prediction even given the less blunt nature of the old rare book. And yes, I must use prediction in the Plejaren sense because a few of the probable events lined in the Paracelsus work have come to pass before I was even born, but during Billy's lifetime.Of all the old Alchemists, only Paracelsus and Thomas Norton ring the bell of validity the loudest to me. Pardon the off topic run-on there, but the Paracelsian Prognostications are practically mirror images of BEAMs words. Jack -- | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 886 Registered: 05-2008 |
If one hasn't been under a rock lately, they'd know the price of oil has dropped $50/barrel since June & Russia's economy lives & dies on crude. Back when the USA was entrenched in its own financial crisis, Putin, nice guy that he is(n't), failed to persuade China to tighten the screws on the US financial system & sell their US treasuries to bring the US to its knees. http://www.bbc.com/news/business-26609548 Now that oil has collapsed and the Ruble is rolling, downhill, which caused the Russian central bank to raise lending rates to 17% in an effort to support the Ruble. Didn't work and with crude weak, payback of cause & effect has led to unintended consequences for Putin who was outsmarted through creational laws. Back in 2005, Billy had mentioned the possibility of a US dollar collapse and the ramifications of that, however the $USD has done nothing but go up since. He however did not mention the utter collapse of the Ruble and the consequences thereof. Well, we're about to find out but I've heard of some friendly olive branch rumblings out of Secretary of State Kerry towards his Russian counterparts. Let's hope they grab that branch. http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 728 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Bruce, Yes, let's hope that olive branch is taken. China cannot sell its treasuries en mass because it would just hurt themselves as the largest overseas holder. Once they have acquired enough gold to back their yuan sufficiently to give it sturdy international acceptance -- and these latter two points are fast on the way to completion -- then it's a different story. They could then sell their treasuries (though they are exchanging them for other global assets already) which Russia is already doing, of course. Meanwhile, the dollar strengthens as you mention, and is likely to further strengthen, but ironically this is not good for the US as it puts the US in a very weak spot. With its massive debt the US needs a weak currency and inflation in order to pay off its debt. A strong currency does exactly the opposite; it creates deflation, which is exactly what the US is trying to overcome. So the situation is actually growing worse as the $ strengthens, though the public do not generally see it. The sky high dollar must be brought down, one way or another, and by intention or market forces it will come down. What we are probably seeing is the cresting of the $ wave just before it crashes; just as Meier has foretold. Chris Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either. | ||
Verlanis Member Post Number: 110 Registered: 10-2012 |
The reason China didn't bring the US to it's knees is because it loses too much financial power if the US Dollar collapses because the Debt of America to China has been a brick of stability to the Chinese Remimbi(...). In a country of 1.4 billion people who have recently tasted what a good economy brings, the Chinese Government isn't about to let 350 million+ middle class citizens, and their employees, become a very angry large mob over such matters. Despite collosal purchasing power and building feats of China, it still does not have the military equipment to subjugate a power-drunken American Empire which still considers China to still be a powerful pawn. The truth is American consumption of Chinese goods keeps China happy, under control, and stable which is another reason why China did not lead the charge to castrate American economic might. The drunken princes of America have no intention of destroying the US economy, or giving any chunk of it up( hence the US entire lack of financial liquidity) over imaginary electronic signals they use to maintain their power over the world, and is using Russia as the example of the consequences of openly balking the US Hegemony. True to Russian precedence, they don't care one lick because America collapsing Russia 2 times in basically 20 years is the final straw to the point that Russia will harden Itself militarily to the point, and attitude wise that one more wrong move will ignite Russia's simmering anger. I truly expect Russia to start taking very hard-line stances on many issues along side the Other BRICS nations even though the Dollar will remain the World Reserve currency for the forseeable future. Jack -- | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 150 Registered: 04-2011 |
The new weapon in international crisis situations is called “Financial Intelligence”. Weapon System: SWIFT (Society of Worldwide Interbanking Financial Telecommunication) Weapon: Money HQ: La Hulpe (Walloon/ Belgium) Procedure: Any bank transferring money to another country has to use The SWIFT system (8 digit SWIFT Code). More than 10,500 banks in 200 countries make use of this system. Anyone that has access to this system can easily find out where terrorists hide their monies. And he can as well block monies to and ruin national economies. NB: This “Society” is not bound politically. But if your currency is the reserve currency you always get what you want: The US has no political privileges but it has a currency that every bank wants: US dollars. (They are so needed by other countries – e.g. to pay for oil bought from most oil producing countries). Samples: -In 2006 a bank in Macao was shut off because it was used by North Korea to finance its nuclear program. -In March 2012 the access to Iranian banks was shut off. Because foreign companies could not access funds in this country international trade was virtually stopped. Iran’s economy was damaged – medical supplies were not send to the country – cancer patients could not be treated - queues in front of chemists – etc. etc. - Iran was forced to return to the negotiating table. A short remark that “it is in the interest of the US President” that Iranian banks are not welcome was all it needed for all German banks to cease trade with Iran. It would be deadly if a bank refuses. BNP Paribas, one of the major French banks, continued trade with the Iran. Punishment: 1 year no trade in US$ and payment of a $9 billion fine. So effectively: Who controls the key (reserve) currency controls SWIFT. Scenario today: Solving the Ukraine crisis by weakening the rouble. Objective: (No. This is not to kill the Russian economy. It is to force) The oligarchs to distance themselves from Putin. (It may also be to curb the massive rise in international Russian arms sales during 2013) Method / Samples: When computer programs find a name on the “Sanctions’ List” – the reaction is literally very “SWIFT”. 21-3-2014: The credit cards of Bank Rossija suddenly malfunction. 26.3.2014: The Russian Embassy in Kazakhstan finds out that JP Morgan / New York blocked the transfer of an ins. premium. 23.9.2014: Italian authorities have put a blocking note on the deed registration (land registry) of Russian oligarch A. Rotenberg’s two villas in Sardinia (he was shortly before put on the sanctions’ list and because of that lost access to his (foreign) “holdings”) Naturally Russia is not North Korea or Iran. It has assembled powerful allies. Date: 14 July 2014 Putin watches the final of the Soccer World Cup in Brazil’s Maracano Stadium. The following day he meets with representatives of the 4 other BRICS (Brasil-Russia-India-China-South Africa) countries in Fortaleza /Brazil. A taboo has been broken – the money flow of one of the major emergent countries has been attacked – it is necessary to discuss how to react, e.g. by assisting each other with foreign currencies without the deviation via the NY banking system. In view of the (financial) weapon directed at his nation’s prosperity a high ranking Russian banker states: “We have to break the domination of the US on the world financial markets.” On a Russian initiative the BRICS have created their own rating agencies. Will they introduce their own SWIFT, too? I can only hope that this time humanity prevails. That this is not another rumbling like that between Atlantis an Mu. Because we do not want to repeat past mistakes. To the powers to be: This universe - all its creations – all its energies - are derived when two opposing forces join in oneness. In oneness with this universe. This insight shall win. Salome, Bill | ||
Vincent Member Post Number: 211 Registered: 06-2013 |
"On a Russian initiative the BRICS have created their own rating agencies. Will they introduce their own SWIFT, too? " Hi Tat_tvam_asi, Good post! After finishing reading it I found out that it is already in the works - Russia to launch alternative to SWIFT bank transaction system in spring 2015 Russia intends to have its own international inter-bank system up and running by May 2015. The Central of Russia says it needs to speed up preparations for its version of SWIFT in case of possible "challenges" from the West. http://rt.com/business/204459-russia-swift-payment-alternative/ | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 152 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Vincent, Interesting update - Thank you, Vincent. Salome, Bill | ||
Vincent Member Post Number: 214 Registered: 06-2013 |
How long can they deliberately keep oil prices down to hurt Russia? And what could the cause and effect of this lead too?  | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1258 Registered: 07-2005 |
Well Vincent the chain reaction has already been unleashed in that as it is stated in the Henoch Prophecies many countries that were supposed to move away from the US are already doing so right now as each time the US's spying scandal or the truth about it's torture activities or it's attempt to set up the Syrian government via false flag chemical weapons attack on the Syrian people or downing MH17 to then blame it on the Russians or inciting protests in HK or lying about NK's involvement in hacking Sony or covering up Victoria Nuland's involvement in installing a puppet government in Ukraine or it's involvement in Yanukovich's ouster or shooting down MH370 near Diego Garcia or the killing of Saddam and Gaddafi over their threat to the petrodollar are exposed whether through wikileaks, snowden or whoever else the more the world's people will resent the US and it's major puppet states. People are waking up to the truth and the past always comes back to haunt and the US NATO and EU states better watch out because the boomerang is making it's way back. Those who can't throw boomerangs should've stuck to paper planes and those who can't throw paper planes should've stuck to origami. Matt lee | ||
Vincent Member Post Number: 214 Registered: 06-2013 |
Hi Newinitiation, I hope your right and there is a turning away from the US because that would be good for world peace. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 889 Registered: 05-2008 |
Vincent, I could chart the price of oil and put labels of peoples birthdays at turning points as if it would have some deeper hidden meaning. Someone with a bias, an axe to grind, a point to make, attempts to correlate one thing with another. What is left out of that chart is the fact that through emergent technologies, the USA was set to be the #1 oil producing country in 2015, surpassing Saudi Arabia. More oil than ever was being pumped, combined with the fact of a lessening of demand and alternative energy sources and oil is going down, as it always has, as all commodities always do. They go up. They go down. But naturally, let's blame a higher power. http://www.businessinsider.com/annotated-history-crude-oil-prices-since-1861-2014-12?utm_content=bufferb45ec&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer When prices go up, people want to get in on the good times and they invent ways to cash in and supply goes up & then prices go down. It's called the economics of supply and demand. And the demand side of the equation is also affected by alternative energy sources such as solar, electric, batteries, wind, nuclear, cold fusion, etc. That chart is a gross oversimplification with a huge helping of a self-serving bias to the point of ridiculousness. Through the beauty of the internet, anyone can post anything, whether is true, false, partially true, mostly false, etc. Take Malaysian Flight 370: since the whole thing remains an unsolved mystery, who better to blame than the big bad USofA. So some guy speculates the US now shot it down and not even 24 hours later, it's truth! And it's truth because it fits one of our biases, case closed! Not to mention ignoring the fact of that psychotic murdering Syrian President Assad, who should have been removed and deported long ago via Nokodemion-style peace fighting troops, but now the US is naturally involved with false flag operations in order to take over. Where is the discernment among those who should know better around here? I'm not saying the US is blameless and not without its crimes, but let's stick to the truth and the facts. I can't believe the fecal matter that people swallow. If it was served on a plate, those same people wouldn't dare go near it but in fact, it's equally as harmful to take all such stuff in as if it's truth. http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 490 Registered: 09-2011 |
"People are waking up to the truth and the past always comes back to haunt and the US NATO and EU states better watch out because the boomerang is making it's way back. Those who can't throw boomerangs should've stuck to paper planes and those who can't throw paper planes should've stuck to origami." - Matt lee Cool quote, thanks. As the technological development of our electronic society marches onwards, more and more big-picture truth is able to be discerned. More and more of it becomes obvious. This is the nature of the societal evolution of consciousness. If we want to cover something up, such as some blanket secret which affects the whole of the world's societies rather intimately, then it's best to inhibit the development of the physical infrastructure of the internet, along with the associated infocom systems and programming, and if not inhibit them, then confuse them with abunch of noise. Still, our filters are evolving in tandem with our technology, leading to a situation where more and more big-picture truth is able to be discerned by all. It boils down to what people want to believe, which itself is based upon the maturity, the evolution of reasoning, of the people of this planet. Not only are people in other countries turning away from what the governments of the US, NATO, and EU are doing, so are the people who are governed by these organizations. Everyone who uses electronic systems is evolving in what they are aware of, and in how they think. No matter what else can be said about all the various nefarious coteries which jostle for influence and control in our world, at least they haven't completely halted this process: although they have put in kill-switches in key places, it's unlikely that they would pull the trigger on that. This is the very danger of the Islamic State, that they would entirely impede the development of societal wisdom through electronic means. If not for the Islamic State, we would might eventually grow beyond our secret coteries, not necessarily all in agreement in every way, but at least all recognizing the same major life-threatening issues and solutions. If the IS gains momentum, as Herr Meier has postulated it would, then the internet will probably be declared anathema to Islamic power, and summarily be destroyed. Because our governments at this point seem unlikely or unwilling to address the development of a violent Islamic State (or else our governing coteries are in collusion with the IS...), for us to deal with the threat that the IS poses, a 'hardened infocom system' is in order. As I envision it, it would have to be satellite-based - anything on the ground would be subject to potential destruction - and we here at the FIGU forum are already aware of the threats posed to satellites by our old star. Anyone here want to start a robust satellite construction/launching company? Life | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1262 Registered: 07-2005 |
Unless there is irrefutable evidence that the US government or its intelligence and military apparatus wasn't involved in downing MH370 I will stick to the conclusions borne from strong circumstantial evidence that the US and its allies were behind it, be it a bias, just as you Bruce is biased against Assad when there are worse war mongering psychos than he in the halls of congress, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Britain, France, Germany, China, NK, Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan needing your immediate attention etc. Unless you can prove that the US & Co and its military and intelligence apparatus wasn't minutely or wholly involved with the downing of MH370 or for that matter MH17 its most likely that they were involved. They've had the MMO. Let's stick to the truths and facts shall we without being an apologist for the worst crime against humanity that the US government, millitary and intelligence apparatus and its shadow government was responsible for No this isn't some US bashing nor by now the sick and tired old cliche of anti US sentiment but an up to date reaction to the ongoing suffering and still unrelenting crimes the US is engaged in such as the US led sanctions against Russia, Iran and NK which is another form of warfare be it economic that ruins many innocent lives. Just calling it like it is because it is still what it is. Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1263 Registered: 07-2005 |
Yes I would have to agree on the point of how much this electronic era and its infrastructure has benefitted humanity and their advancement of consciousness although progress is definitely not a straight linear upswing for all. I tend to think that this Bagdadi pied piper is a beneficiary to the latest technology and the social media his flute. How do you kill the internet when by activating the kill switch means the end of civilisation. I don't think the powerful business interest who've hijacked the governments of the world would exercise that option out of self interest. Matt lee | ||
Vincent Member Post Number: 216 Registered: 06-2013 |
"More oil than ever was being pumped,..." Hi Earthling, I don't understand how that can be because the P's said we had already passed the peak of oil production before the turn of the century and that the figure of the worlds true oil reserves are overinflated. Maybe this is the case with where you are getting your/those figures from? So are you saying that the sudden sustained big drop in the price of crude oil has nothing to do with the West/US trying to hurt Russia economically and that it is just a coincidence it happened when the sanctions were imposed on Russia? If so, I don't think so. | ||
Vincent Member Post Number: 217 Registered: 06-2013 |
Hi Newinitiation, FWIW, this was published yesterday - 'U.S. military shot down MH370 because they thought it had been hacked and was about to be used in terror attack', claims former airline boss - Marc Dugain says U.S. Navy in Indian Ocean attacked the plane - He claims that islanders saw the plane fly close to a U.S. base - Also alleges that a spy told him to back away from his probe into MH370 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2883651/U-S-military-shot-MH370-thought-hacked-used-terror-attack-claims-former-airline-boss.html | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 892 Registered: 05-2008 |
Vincent, perhaps the Plejaren are wrong about their oil statistics. It wouldn't be the first time were wrong about something. Here's an article with some interesting points to consider, in support of the 'bankrupt Russia conspiracy'. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-24/did-saudis-and-us-collude-dropping-oil-prices "Turning to the current price drop, the Saudis and OPEC have a vested interest in taking out higher-cost competitors, such as US shale oil producers, who will certainly be hurt by the lower price. Even before the price drop, the Saudis were selling their oil to China at a discount. OPEC's refusal on Nov. 27 to cut production seemed like the baldest evidence yet that the oil price drop was really an oil price war between Saudi Arabia and the US. However, analysis shows the reasoning is complex, and may go beyond simply taking down the price to gain back lost marketshare. “What is the reason for the United States and some U.S. allies wanting to drive down the price of oil?” Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro asked rhetorically in October. “To harm Russia.” Many believe the oil price plunge is the result of deliberate and well-planned collusion on the part of the United States and Saudi Arabia to punish Russia and Iran for supporting the murderous Assad regime in Syria." http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 893 Registered: 05-2008 |
Matt, as far as the latest explanation du jour about Malaysian Flight 370 is concerned; it's another in a looong line of guesses. Maybe there's some truth in it, maybe it couldn't be more incorrect. And yeah, you are correct, I am biased against Assad. I just find it hard to be a fan of a leader who has murdered nearly 200,000 of his own citizens. Call me crazy. It's hard to forget the time, as the Syrian civil war was raging and citizens were being murdered in the tens of thousands by Assad's henchmen, that his wife complained that it was interrupting with her shopping activities. This has nothing to do with the many incorrect actions of the US government like the sanctions against Russia, which are fact. This has to do with sticking with the facts, not with conspiracy nonsense, such as blaming the US for murdering Syrians via chemical weapons, or some other nonsense I've heard, such as that the Sandy Hook school child massacre never took place, that it was all an Obama conspiracy to pass gun legislation, etc etc ... or that no planes actually crashed on 9/11, that it was all holographically done. http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1267 Registered: 07-2005 |
Well Bruce lets just hang the dice up in the air until it falls as surely there is no such a thing as a secret when eventually all thing both great and small will be revealed in time and in terms of MH370, MH17, 911, 7.7.2005 etc etc etc it will in the end be solved even if it takes 100 years or more. Matt lee |
