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    Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 162 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Truthseeker, I do not know whether Billy mentioned by when the world has to collaborate to get rid of ISIS but I keep encouraging the same thought - to see the “bigger picture”: To find this unity the national leaders on our planet should have a long-term view of their political decisions. Because in the long run and ultimately the goal will be a common goal: To set the priorities so that our species will survive. Once this is deeply understood there is hope. The terror attacks in our world need to be dealt with by a unified world. Salome, Bill | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 381 Registered: 03-2003 |
OK I do remember asking Billy in the past what would happen if there is eventually a third world fire event and he said that at that point the Plejaren Mission would then be ended and that the Plejarens would be leaving Earth completely with no further contacts, while Billy himself would stay behind on Earth to live it out. It would be interesting to ask more about it in the next round of questions, such as when is the final point of no return deadline for this, etc. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 904 Registered: 05-2008 |
Extremely interesting and informative interview with Gorbachev, said to be part of the mission from ancient times. Considering he is 1/2 Ukrainian, not to mention all else he has experienced and demonstrated as a human being, he has a very balanced insight into the current situation and its present & future dangers. He talks about Putin, Merkel, Obama, sanctions, democracy, repression, political pressures, peace, reaching solutions, Crimea, NATO, old age, death ... http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/gorbachev-warns-of-decline-in-russian-western-ties-over-ukraine-a-1012992.html http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 331 Registered: 11-2008 |
Sorry Bruce, but where does it say that Gorbachev was once part of the mission from ancient times? In maybe the contact notes? Could you please provide a link? | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1550 Registered: 02-2000 |
Europe Unable and Unwilling to Confront Islamic Extremism. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5121/europe-islamic-extremism | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 967 Registered: 07-2009 |
> I submitted the following comment there. I also suggest that others submit their comments to such articles…as well as sending me the article for my comments: Really, since Billy Meier first predicted this situation in 1958 - and then again in 1981, 1987 and 1995 - and then specified that France will fall to the Islamic radicals in its midst (1987) why should anyone be concerned? After all this is the same man who in 1987 also predicted the current Russian military movements, the Ebola epidemic, etc., etc. And since there are now something like 200 specific examples of his accuracy, along with an equally specific warning that unless a GLOBAL military force of some 300,000 soldiers is tasked with confronting and eliminating the overall threat from the IS that we risk being plunged back into the Dark Ages...shouldn't people just go back to their daily irrelevancies, play with their techno toys and stay in their state of politically correct denial? After all, since his information has so successfully been suppressed for decades, should I even wonder if you'll be given the opportunity to...read this? | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 382 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hey Michael, I think you should be on Coast To Coast AM radio right about now to talk about this situation. My guess is that the deadline is probably going to be around towards the end of April of this year. What I also find particularly interesting in regards to this is what will happen when the Mafia groups clash with the Islamic radicals. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 905 Registered: 05-2008 |
Joe, don't know where it's written. I was told this by a core-grouper. Call it hearsay. http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 163 Registered: 04-2011 |
Well expressed, Michael. It truly is worrying... --- There are no border controls in Europe. So should France fall prey to terrorists so will Europe... Salome, Bill | ||
Vincent Member Post Number: 240 Registered: 06-2013 |
Hi MH, When the prophecies spoke of fanatics of Islam (IS) plunging us back into the dark ages, could they be saying that as a metaphor for IS attacking power stations and putting countries in the dark? Or does it refer to World War 3? | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 285 Registered: 07-2012 |
It's a reference to them destroying our accrued knowledge and culture,i.e., science,art,technology,basically anything that doesn't conform to their delusional and psychotic belief system. I just saw an article today where they massacred a whole bunch of kids in public for watching a television program. If anyone ever deserved to be wiped from this world through logical force,it's this human filth. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1321 Registered: 07-2005 |
How apt are these words of Billy's about the current IS situation and their kidnapping of Japanese reporters Billy I wish I could change all this madness; there ought to be a possibility. Ich wollte, ich könnte diesen ganzen Wahnsinn ändern, es müsste doch eine Möglichkeit geben. Quetzal 321. Unfortunately there isn¡¯t one; at least not in the sense that a sudden end could be set for these murders and other inhuman atrocities. 321. Die gibt es leider nicht, wenigstens nicht im Sinne dessen, dass diesem Morden und den sonstigen unmenschlichen Grausamkeiten ein jähes Ende gesetzt werden könnte. 322. There would only be one solution in the long run, and in fact through a transnational party, therefore an international peace combat force and a union with enough members in every country of the Earth, which would have ascendance over every other party. 322. Es gäbe nur eine Lösung auf lange Zeit, und zwar durch eine übernationale Partei, so also eine internationale Friedenskampftruppe und eine vereinigung mit genügend Mitgliedern in einem jeden Staat der Erde, die eine Domination über jegliche andere Partei sein würden. 323. But this peace combat troop and party, I use this designation for better understanding, should be apolitical in every form and relation and be uniformly aimed, through spiritual leadership and peace combat, to steer the population of each country into the life-correct courses and into the necessary knowledge. 323. Diese Friedenskampftruppe und Partei jedoch, ich gebrauche diese Bezeichnung zum besseren Verständnis, müssten in jeder Form und Beziehung unpolitisch und einheitlich darauf ausgerichtet sein, durch Geistesführung und Friedenskampf die Bevölkerung eines jedes Staates in die lebensrichtigen Bahnen und in das erforderliche Wissen zu lenken. 324. Truthfully, such a peace combat troop and party would have to be a uniformly aligned ¡°Free Peace Combat Community,¡± whereby the framework of the UN and NATO in this amended sense would be exactly right. 324. Wahrheitlich müssten eine solche Friedenskampftruppe und Partei eine einheitlich ausgerichtete ¡®Freie Friedenskampfgemeinschaft¡± sein, wobei der Rahmen der UNO und NATO in diesem abgeänderten Sinn genau der richtige wäre. 325. But it cannot be avoided that these organizations and the community would have a top spirit leadership with subleaderships well-informed in the spiritual teaching, after which everything could be truly steered in a creationally-given form through these leading forces. 325. Nicht umhin würden diese Organisationen und die Gemeinschaft aber kommen, eine oberste Geistführung mit geisteslehrekundigen Unterführungen zu haben, wonach durch diese Führungskräfte dann alles wahrheitlich in schöpfungsgegebener Form gelenkt würde. 326. Thus, no political machinations must arise in the sense as these are usual on Earth and which lead to wars, murders and manslaughter and revolutions. 326. Es dürften also keine politischen Machenschaften in dem Sinne auftreten, wie diese auf der Erde üblich sind und die zu Krieg, Mord und Totschlag und Revolutionen führen. 327. Also, terrorism and anarchy, crime, riots, and demonstrations, etc. would have to be prevented by this, in that all Earth people would have to be treated uniformly and be incorporated into a uniform order and giving of rights. 327. Es müssten dadurch auch Terrorismus und Anarchismus, Kriminalität, Aufstände und Demonstrationen usw. verhindert werden, indem alle Erdenmenschen einheitlich behandelt und einer einheitlichen Ordnung und Rechtgebung eingeordnet werden müssten. Billy That is easily said because again and again, crazy extremists of a terroristic character emerge in the smallest groups, who organize kidnappings, who storm and occupy embassies, schools, and government buildings, murdering people in order to cash in millions of amounts of extorted funds, so that they can make for themselves a happy and comfortable life. Das ist leicht gesagt, denn immer wieder treten in kleinsten Gruppen verrückte Extremisten terroristischen Charakters auf, die Entführungen veranstalten, Botschaften und Schulen und Staatsgebäude stürmen und besetzen, Menschen ermorden, um dafür dann noch Millionenbeträge an erpressten Geldern zu kassieren, so sie sich dann damit ein freudiges und angenehmes Leben machen können. And the responsible of the countries even help this riff-raff in that they, on the one hand, yield to the blackmailing, and on the other hand, even carry out similar actions, whereby it is still given to them that they have and exercise the damned power to provoke wars, whereby, in this regard, they can even engage the damned religions in this, in particular – the Christian churches, who themselves really do not want to have peace, but by all means seek and advocate that the countries of the Earth produce war armies and war material, accumulate and stockpile these, in order to be able to wage war, always under the guise of the strange and crazy shouting that, indeed, peace according to God¡¯s order, and additionally, love must prevail on Earth. Und die Staatsverantwortlichen helfen diesem Gesindel noch dabei, indem sie einerseits auf die Erpressungen eingehen, andererseits aber auch selbst gleichartige Aktionen durchführen, wobei ihnen aber auch noch gegeben ist, dass sie die verdammte Macht haben und ausüben, um Kriege vom Zaun zu brechen, wobei sie diesbezüglich noch die verdammten Religionen, insbesondere die christlichen Kirchen in Anspruch nehmen können, die selbst wahrlich keinen Frieden haben wollen, sondern mit allen Mitteln darauf aus sind und verfechten, dass die Staaten der Erde Kriegsarmeen und Kriegsmaterial herstellen, anhäufen und horten, um Krieg führen zu können, stets unter dem Deckmantel des eigenartigen und irren Geschreis, dass wohl Frieden nach eines Gottes Ordnung und zusätzlich Liebe herrschen müsse auf Erden. If one then addresses these idiots and power twerps on this fact, then they say as a response that each country needs an army with adequate weapons in order to be able to ward off an invading enemy. Redet man diese Idioten und Machtheinis dann auf diese Tatsache an, dann sprechen sie als Antwort davon, dass jedes Land eine Armee mit geeigneten Waffen benötige, um sich eines eindringenden Feindes erwehren zu können. This is a matchless idiocy, for if all countries uniformly have peaceful intentions and act accordingly, then no country needs armies and weapons of war. Eine Idiotie sondergleichen, denn wenn alle Staaten einheitlich friedliche Absichten haben und danach handeln, dann benötigt kein Land Kriegsarmeen und Kriegswaffen. Then, a regular safety army with appropriate weapons would be sufficient, in order to be prepared for contingencies, such as if inhumane life forms from outer space should undertake attempts toward world domination, etc. Es genügt dann nämlich eine reguläre Sicherheitsarmee mit entsprechenden Waffen, um für Eventualfälle gerüstet zu sein, so z.B. dann, wenn unhumane Lebensformen aus dem Weltenraum Eroberungsversuche unternehmen sollten usw. Nevertheless, I must say that your idea of a world-wide ¡°Free Peace Combat Community¡± within the framework mentioned would be very good, and, indeed, should be pursued, but which alone would not suffice in today's world. Trotzdem muss ich sagen, dass deine Idee von einer weltweiten ¡°Freien Friedenskampfgemeinschaft¡± im genannten Rahmen sehr gut wäre und ja auch angestrebt werden sollte, was aber allein in der heutigen Welt jedoch nicht genügen würde. All the crazy warmongers and terrorists, anarchists and protesters, etc. could not be restrained with words and spirit teachings for the time being and be brought to reason. All die verrückten Kriegshetzter und Terroristen, Anarchisten und Demonstranten usw. könnten vorderhand nicht mit Worten und Geisteslehre gebändigt und zur Vernunft gebracht werden. It would require, in this case, a special armed army that would have to comprise millions of men and which would intervene immediately in every single country and create peace and order where any rebellions, terrorist acts, and wars, etc. begin to threaten or erupt. Es würde diesbezüglich eine bewaffnete Spezialarmee erfordern, die Millionen von Mann umfassen müsste und die in einem jeden einzelnen Land sofort eingreifen und Ruhe und Ordnung zu schaffen hätte, wo irgendwelche Aufstände, Terroristenakte und Kriege usw. zu drohen beginnen oder ausbrechen. This army would also have to be responsible that all male and female participants of such acts hostile to peace would be immediately and mercilessly separated for life, within the scope of how it has been handled for thousands of years by you, that those who are guilty are moved to specially guarded and lonely islands, etc., men and women being separated, from where they could never return back to society. Auch müsste diese Armee dann dafür zuständig sein, dass sämtliche Teilnehmer und Teilnehmerinnen solcher friedensfeindlicher Akte sofort und erbarmungslos auf Lebenszeit ausgesondert würden, im Rahmen dessen, wie ihr dies seit Jahrtausenden handhabt, dass die Fehlbaren auf spezielle bewachte und einsame Inseln usw. verbracht werden, Männlein und Weiblein getrennt, von wo sie niemals wieder in die Gesellschaft zurückkehren könnten. Wouldn't a link be easier? (Message edited by scott on January 23, 2015) | ||
Blue_geometry New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2014 |
To Norm: I don't know how to send a private message, so i'm just posting this in a public thread. Norm, I did a quick search of your name and learned that you live in Media. I live in Wayne a couple of minutes away. Would you be intererested in getting together and talking about the FIGU material or the spirit teaching sometime? I am a 17 year old who has known about the teachings for about 3 years now. I was just amazed to see that another person interested in FIGU lives so close by. You can email me back at MrBlueGeometry@gmail.com Thanks | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 969 Registered: 07-2009 |
> HI Vincent, I don't think it was a metaphor and maybe not about WW III but just about the damage that the IS can do. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1323 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Scott How do you hyperlink a specific section of the contact notes like you did with 'here' so that with a press of a button people can go straight to that section concerned? I haven't been able to figure this out yet Thanks Hi Matt, check the section on hyperlinks Creating a hyperlkink will give you the page you want, but won't give you a section on that page. If you need any help let me know Regards Scott (Message edited by scott on January 24, 2015) | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 383 Registered: 03-2003 |
If I understand correctly then it's also possible for Russia to target ISIS directly with one of their EIT plasma beam hurricane satellite weapons should it happen that the nations states all agree upon this. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1331 Registered: 07-2005 |
James as you may well know these terrorists are embedding themselves with the local population which I think is the reason why the US lead bombing campaign or previous bombing runs by NATO are not effective. I think its fair to say that with such method you will basically have to decimate the entire population of Syria and Iraq to get the job done that way. If I had it my way I would make arrangements with the Iranian, Turkish, Lebanese, Saudi, Jordanian, Kuwaiti, Israeli and Qatari government to take as many Iraqi and Syrian refugees as they can, build state of the art refugee camps providing all necessities for living and then only after the mass temporary exodus is achieved would I start the peace fighting campaign so that mass casualties are prevented. Obviously there are no quick fix solutions especially where it involves religious extremism, terrorism and fundamentalism and especially where politics, different Gods, power hungry psychos, money and natural resources are concerned. | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 385 Registered: 03-2003 |
Greetings Newinitiation, Unfortunately you are quite right, however since ISIS has become like a virus on the Earth, there are other things to consider such as, most of them supposed refugees aside from their slaves will have already been killed or executed by ISIS so it's safe to say that the remaining Sunni population in those areas is what supports ISIS anyway. Billy's suggestion is of course the best practical means of dealing with the problem but since that is not being done yet and may not even happen because of rising tensions between Russia and the USA then it is also always good to have a fail safe back up plan, especially where the lives of the entire planet are concerned. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 105 Registered: 04-2013 |
How will you know who is an imbedded terrorist and who is not? | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1334 Registered: 07-2005 |
Thanks Scott just testing it out to see if this works. \link {http://www.theyflyblog.com} \newurl {http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk} Two URL's are need separated by a comma-Scott (Message edited by scott on January 26, 2015) | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1335 Registered: 07-2005 |
Kenneth good question How can you tell unless you are on the ground and amongst the people. You can never really tell from the air and as most people know from wikileak's Bradley Manning footage the incidents of mistaken identity is all too prevalent especially in times of war where the innocent people get slaughtered and blown up to bloody pieces from bombing runs. This is the reason why you can never prevent mass casualties because the only effective war strategy is to put soldiers on the ground to be effective which the cowardly politicians with the coming election will want to avoid at all cost. And to make matters worse terrorists can always blend in with the crowd and escape as a refugee or use non combatants as human shield. This is the reason why so many young men in general get killed in war zones because when you are at a certain fighting age you are a target no matter what. So there is no effective way to really tell who the terrorists are from the regular people other than to see whether they possess a machine gun and are among a group of men who also possess weapons. But this also has limitations because almost all males carry some sort of weapon in a war zone and take cover under a building just as most terrorists do. So the US led bombing runs should seize immediately in the fight against IS. They need to make the unpopular decision and put boots on the ground | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 106 Registered: 04-2013 |
Newinitiation, You have covered many of the issues identifying who is a terrorist and who is not. However, it does get much more difficult and complicated; just because someone is carrying a weapon does not mean that they are a terrorist. If you were in a war zone; would you not carry some kind of weapon to protect yourself and your loved ones in self defense? “Guilty are all those who kill when not acting in self-defense” or according to legal verdict based on self-defense.” Your heart and spirit are in the right place; it will take more than just boots on the ground; situations in this life have put me into the “Boots On The Ground” scenario where you cannot tell the bad guys from the good guys, unless they are shooting at you; even then, situations arise that are not what you think they are. Furthermore; it’s not only the bad guys, so to speak. Women and children attack with weapons of all sorts, as they too are protecting themselves and their loved ones. It gets very messy! I’m sure that you’re aware; per Billy’s statements; there must be a “Multinational or Global Peace-Fighting Troops” organized as soon as possible. http://www.theyfly.com/Peace-Fighting%20Troops.htm | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1340 Registered: 07-2005 |
Kenneth although I've never fought in a war zone which by right makes me an arm chair wannabe expert on these issues I do have a direct witness in the form of me old man who fought in the Vietnam war and lived to tell his story. Thank goodness cos I wouldn't be here. Anyway His account of killing the enemy and his comrades being killed right next to him during his tour of duty is harrowing and bone chilling. He said he even had to kill the innocent on orders from his superiors simply based on suspicion even women with children. War definitely is a mess and its usually those who need the most protection such as women, children and the elderly who get slaughtered the most in the crossfire. I do assume that war wherever it occurs whenever it occurs by whomever it is instigated by and whatever methods that they choose to deploy its all the same because in the end there is death, mayhem, destruction, chaos, cruel intentions, barbarity, wholesale degeneracy, gratuitous violence, economic and societal loss, mass casualties, vengence, hatred, bloody gore, torture, shock and awe, psychical killing, murder, suicide and last but not least huge profits for the merchants of death war industries and banks. Getting back to our previous discussion I did feel pessimistic and doubtful for many years that a genuine peace keeping force can be consumated in the current political climate that we are in as the proviso is that it is lead by a nonpartisan spiritual leadership which we currently severely lack. So my suggestion of having troops on the ground is based on the UN model but obviously this too is lacking for a better word but it will be implemented eventually when more IS terrorist attacks occur in the US, UK, Germany, Saudi Arabia, France, Vatican, Japan, Russia, China, Australia and so forth. Matt lee |
