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    Verlanis Member Post Number: 121 Registered: 10-2012 |
AS far as can be imagined, the scariest force to fight is not 10,000 full grown fanatics, but is a force of 9 to 14 year olds forced to fight, and a fight in which they also believe in. A global multinational fighting force is not an impossibility but it is a political issue which will not be accepted by any nation simply on the grounds that no one trusts who would control it under the current UN model. This fighting force already exists in the form of the US foreign intervention policy in which it drags NATO. The shear main problem is that the UN cannot muster such a Sovereignty issue because none of the nations in the UN can cough up the money to put it into action because it would undermine their own self defense initiatives. To put it bluntly, if the USA pulled out of the UN then the UN would most likely collapse over night or in one year, because that one nation pays for over 20% of the UN budget. The reality is that the USA will not pull out of the UN because of that heavy state of investment in the institution of which it wields significant power to the point of "giving the bird" to the entire world in many recent votes over the recent years. Now here's a really funny thing concerning the undermining of the US hegemony via BRICS, a gear in the probable WW4, is that it will not cripple the US, this from a history vantage point, because the USA had the largest economy on the planet at the 1900 mark and NOBODY knew that! What does that mean for the modern times? It means that with over 50% of the US Federal Government records from the 20th century marked as CLASSIFIED or higher that 90% of the world does not know what the heck the US has hidden about anything that is of a direct military nature that was funded during the 1970s on forward. I could have said almost any date but I chose the 70s because that is the time period from when the USA was at basically full steam scientifically and economically until 2007. 40 years and more of the largest military budgets from the strongest economy on the world with over 50% of that information being CLASSIFIED and higher paints an ominous picture. Put bluntly, the only deterrent invented by the Russians that made the open and shadow US leaders go "Holy CRAP!" was the missile system dubbed by the US as SATAN. Jack -- 250 years of peace within the last 10,000 years, and we wonder why we all have a headache. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 753 Registered: 12-2009 |
Thought I would try this hyperlink thing. Testing. I've always wondered how to do this! http://www.theyfly.com/Peace-Fighting%20Troops.htm, Multi-national Peace Fighting Troop ------------------- Corey, just to mention that only links that are for FIGU websites, or those affiliated, such as those on the figu.org link, are able to be hyperlinked. All other links must be in plain format. Although, will let you know your link did work :-) (Message edited by indi on January 28, 2015) Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 386 Registered: 03-2003 |
Continued from my last post in this topic string, because I accidentally hit the post button as I was finishing typing it. ....but similarly and interestingly enough as the so called anti-Christ of the Christian bible or Christian belief system, which indicates that people will at first believe him to be a person of good, however, it's interesting to also note that Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi himself appears to believe along with his islamic followers that they too are on a final mission to fulfil a prophacy in Islam which involves the rise of the new caliph, etc. | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 387 Registered: 03-2003 |
So going back into my notes, I find this from a book called "The Pleiadian Mission" along with other related articles by former Randy Winters which was published back in early 1993 to 1994. Back then he says that according to Billy Meier, "the man who will become known as the Antichrist" will be born to a devoted woman of God in an inconspicuous place at around sunrise during the 7th hour, and brought to the Middle East where he is to starve to death. There he will be saved and taken in by an evil one who knows who he really is. Later he will come into his own personal power at age 11 and surround himself with like-minded people for the next 8 years. At first it will appear as though he is a follower of Christianity but then later this will change and he will place himself above God in his new religion. His rain of terror will last 27 more years at the loss of 2/3rds of the Earth's human population, following the 3rd world war. During this time most of Europe will parish along with the end of the British empire. As the Anti Christ and his army invades Italy, the 266 last Pope will flee into hiding, while Christianity all but disappears. The Anti Christ will not be the one who causes the war but will represent the organization that does while all his names along with his organization will all but numerologically add up to the numbers of 666. In Italy the Volcano Mt Vesuvius will erupt which by this time the final 3rd world war will be unavoidable, while Rome becomes consumed by its lava from deep underneath. Supposedly he is the resulting offspring who is born to a catholic nun, of whom she had conceived with a catholic priest. The child is therefore either taken to a cave or is born in a cave in which in either case he is left there to die, presumably somewhere in the middle east, like in Jordan. And as of already this person is alive. Now I don't know just how accurate any of this is since it is based on a statement by Randy Winters, however if it is true that yes it is possibly that history, which is based upon peoples beliefs, will eventually come to know this individual as the Christian anti-Christ since even though that is not what Billy himself may refer to him as, but rather because that is since what Nostradamus in his corresponding predictions has already done in referring to him as been the 3rd and final anti-Christ. While it is true that, that person who now is presumably the leader of ISIS who does have many names beginning with a name like "Ibrahim Awwad" and known mainly now as "Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi" is referred to as such as the Rat Catcher because of his similarity of being like the Pied Piper of Hamelin, as most recently noted by Michael Horn, but similarly and interestingly enough as the so called anti-christ | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 977 Registered: 07-2009 |
> James,While Randy got some things right…he also got a lot of them wrong. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1354 Registered: 07-2005 |
Truthseeker was that 27 years from when he first held some sort of position of power or influence or was it from the time he first came into prominance as in the current caliph? Matt lee | ||
Watchdog Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2014 |
Im confused. Based on the contact notes, My understanding is that this anti-christ person has passed on ? Am I mixing something up here ? Im kicking myself in the pants now because I didn't take notes on my readings of the contact notes in the beginning. Ive read so much its getting garbled. I swear I need an assistabt for all this material. MH is correct about Randy. He got many things wrong. Randy used a story telling format to tell the Billy story instead of the actual word for word contact notes dictation. which is fine but I feel that he injected some of his own ideas based on his opinions and feelings. That can lead to bad things. Look what it did to the bible. Look what it did to history. I feel its best to stick to the contact notes for accuracy. David AKA Watch.dog | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 756 Registered: 12-2009 |
To the best of my understanding, all that is mentioned in the contact reports is where Semjase explained to Billy the "anti-Christ time" is an old prediction where earthlings slowly turn away from religion, and slowly make their way towards the universal truth and evolve. I know of no other anti-Christ mentioned in the notes? Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 388 Registered: 03-2003 |
I see that my initial post got posted before my follow up. And yes I'm aware that Randy also has had inaccuracies to his articles which is why I'm posting it up here now so that someone may know more of which is correct and which is incorrect. As far as I know the 27 years is following the 888 day world war 3, at least according to Nostradamus anyway which I'm wondering if that is where Randy really got it from. | ||
Watchdog Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2014 |
A follow up on my last post in this section. I found this today in regard to the anti-Christ confusion. Taken from a topical listing that led me to contact report 45 666 = "Jesus Christ" "the value of the number 666 does not apply to an actual individual nor to the thinking processes and actions of a long-departed human being from Earth, but it refers to the figure of delusion it was turned into. It has ruled the Earth as a religious cult figure ever since." The break down as I see it. The Anti-Christ isn't really a living, nor ever truly an existing human so to speak. Though, in the same breath he was. The anti-Christ is the false title given to a man named Jmmanuel. The false teachings. Not an actual human. (key word "figure") "...but it refers to the figure of delusion it was turned into..." Billy Meier is the reincarnation of jmmanuel, not Jesus, with the same birthday. Feb-3-1937 The anti-christ is the "figure" Jesus Christ !!! So now still today, Many think the anti-christ is a person who is going to "end the world" in our currect time, But in reality its not a person but an idea or belief. The religious wack jobs that still to this day follow those false teachings. If I am incorrect someone please let me know. I am open minded and not affraid of being corrected. Thanks everyone. David AKA Watchdog USA | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1362 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hey james I must have listened to Randy Winters tape series for good part of at least 100 times and I must say after a while my head starts telling me "hey that's not right" "that's wrong" "huh" "a what!" Ad nauseam. Although I wouldn't recommend it for someone new to the Meier case although some would contend that Randy's tapes were the stringboard to how they got to know about it, it still has it's unique place in the case's history and worth a listen after familiarising yourself with Billy's information. So having said that I would take what he said about the prophecies with a grain of salt for now. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 290 Registered: 07-2012 |
James; Gonna have to say I've never heard or remember reading anything like that,sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me. Specifically, it sounds as if Mr Winters decided it would be more entertaining to mix a few words,or,some "scaffolding" of the mission related material,and mix it with a bunch of complete erroneous fairy tales to make it more sensationalized,digestible,and play on people's rediculous ideas of the end of the world/prophetic horrible happenings,etc. Psychologically speaking,it sounds like he fell in love with his own voice, wanted to keep bathing in the spotlight,and like a lot of folks,would end up saying whatever to stay there. | ||
Str0323 Member Post Number: 29 Registered: 02-2012 |
Hello Everyone. Does 666 and anti-christ correlate with anti-logos? Does anti-logos mean unknowledge? Thanks for any input. Peace, Scott Reed. | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 389 Registered: 03-2003 |
A re post from a statement of my split posting, since a single sentence formerly got split in half in 2 different posts, so that it can be read again correctly. "While it is true that, that person who now is presumably the leader of ISIS who does have many names beginning with a name like "Ibrahim Awwad" and known mainly now as "Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi" is referred to as such as the Rat Catcher because of his similarity of being like the Pied Piper of Hamelin, as most recently noted by Michael Horn, but similarly and interestingly enough as the so called anti-christ of the Christian bible or Christian belief system, which indicates that people will at first believe him to be a person of good, however, it's interesting to also note that Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi himself appears to believe along with his Islamic followers that they too are on a final mission to fulfill a prophecy in Islam which involves the rise of the new caliph, etc". While it is true that the name Jesus Christ and the Christian religion actually do equal 666, this is supposedly known also in the Islam religion because of their profit supposedly warning them of this which of course takes place long before the time of the crusades and the 1000 year inquisition. The Catholic church also likewise is likely to be aware of their own final fate, but likely will never admit it, however one has to wonder if then the Christian book of revelations was in fact reworded during it's time to counter act the Islamic prophecy of the coming caliph who would draw many towards himself and eventually destroy the Christian religion. But like I already mention this also relates to a Nostradamus prophecy that indicates the rise of the coming caliph as being the 3rd and final anti Christ which was not necessarily at all heard from Billy Meier as Randy Winters indicated. However, given the prophecy of the, "rat catcher" which actually does fall within a Christian oriented belief that fits in with the model of their anti Christ, then is it true that Billy also stated at some point in the past that the rise of the ISIS like caliph would in fact go down in history as fulfilling a Christian belief regarding their anti Christ?, since he is suppose to be the one who will put a final end to the Christian religion as his followers burn down churches, abbes, universities, libraries, etc, while a final Armageddon like 3rd world war fire consumes the entire planet, etc. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1366 Registered: 07-2005 |
David according to my memory I do remember it also included an actual living human being albeit an extraterrestrial one. As for a reference sorry its all in my head | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1367 Registered: 07-2005 |
Scott Reed these links talk more about the anti-logos It is the child of evil, the child of ruin, that is the deadly opponent against knowledge............... http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Anti-Logos#section_1 487. The Anti-logos will become more and more apparent and will demand more and more victims, from which also group members will not remain spared, but also not many outside of the groups, who strive for the real creative truth and for the observance of the creative laws and commandments. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_238#section_2 Semjase 138. The number 666 points fully to one of the Earth humans, but at the same time also to an extraterrestrial, and to the work of both. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_045#section_2 436. As is known to you, there are seven anti-logos who will be depicted guilty for the threatening World War, and Ronald Reagan is indeed one of them. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_150#section_1 that concept of ownership over an animal is anti-logos http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Intelligence_Evolution | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 757 Registered: 12-2009 |
Str0323, See my above post 756 about the anti-Christ time. Anti-LOGOS means anti-power of Creation. LOGOS is an old Greek word that means power of Creation, and it is also tied into the word logic (*A). Anti-LOGOS are basically all of the anti-Creational false leaders in political and religious organizations worldwide, and if there is a ww 3(4), it will be their fault, and they will be responsible for the nuclear war and 2/3 of our people perishing. Schöpfungskraft (*A) = "Arahat Athersata (FIGU/Beam) page 169 verse 23 and 170 verse 24 (note: There is further information about the Anti-LOGOS and the 666 is Billy's German book "Prophecies and Predictions") Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 168 Registered: 04-2011 |
“In human dignity we should trust” ... Living in our world Where people are beheaded and burnt … Dominating god – dominating mind Self assured - but blind Christians fight Christians (Ukraine) Muslims fight Muslims (Middle East) Frantic is the pace – nobody sees Religion does not create peace. Overpopulation hypes up the intensity. Suggestion: Mr. Putin’s free lance soldiers, the Don Basin Rebels, the Ukrainian army, the European and US armies agree. They have enough. They will fight. ISIS, worldwide. Objective: To recognize that we are humans - that our fight is for humanity’s sake. Salome Bill | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1554 Registered: 02-2000 |
This US General seems to get it. He even gets into overpopulation. "An hour with Lieutenant General Mike Flynn, former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. He will address the military's record of understanding extremists, as well as the United States' role as 'world policeman.'" http://www.charlierose.com/watch/60510282 | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 515 Registered: 09-2011 |
Excellent interview, Norm, thanks. I agree with about 85% of what LTG Mike Flynn says, I just wish he were abit more aggressive in considering the impact of the IS ideology. When he says that America should be the world's leader, I do wonder about his reasoning on that, specifically, by what moral authority? Life | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 336 Registered: 11-2008 |
Norm, Lieutenant General Mike Flynn mentioned nothing about overpopulation, however he did mention about population growth in certain African countries like Nigeria and also in the Middle East. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1555 Registered: 02-2000 |
Joe, He sure didn't act like it was positive growth. So I think you get the idea. | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 390 Registered: 03-2003 |
So if I'm understanding the recent special bulletin for this month correctly, number 86, not only is there ISIS or IS to worry about in the very near future, but also that of the European Union along with other western countries who intend on using the threat of Islamic State as a means to possibly micro-chipping and to taking away people's freedoms, along with reintroducing the Gestapo to eliminate and counter act the Islamization of Islam in the western countries by means of persecution in much the same way as the former Catholic inquisition, from which the Vatican itself is probably in on it, and beginning with what happened in France with the Charlie Hebdo cartoon publication which was intended on provoking the Islamic Jihadists to achieve this very goal. So just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, yet more problems surface on all sides. After all I think it was the USA who ultimately unleashed the ISIS beast for this very purpose. And in a way it was the ISIS or Islamic state who have in a way hijacked the Islamic religion to achieve their very goal of using Islam as a means to try and justify their mass global war of genocide on all other cultures, sciences, histories, races and religions. |
