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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 182
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 06:22 am: | 
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Re. the seriousness of the “East European” situation:
Some European newspapers think Moldova could be the next target –e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01xknr5?ocid=socialflow_twitter
See as well:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2015/02/11/where-will-russia-strike-next/
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/nato-eyes-air-defenses-over-fears-putin-will-target-baltics-n312446
According to a new Russian newspaper report the Ukraine crisis was planned in advance:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-russia-had-ukraine-incursion-planned-a-year-ago/
"May wise thinkers prevail everywhere..."
Salome,
Bill |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1392
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 27, 2015 - 01:34 am: |
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Bill I gather from your post 180 that you are from Russia.
Oh btw I like stolichnaya.
Anyway I agree that the Ukrainian conflict may lead to a wider regional and world encompassing war.
I also agree that Russia has so much to offer the world than Putin and Vodka.
I also agree with your sentiment
As Michael wisely wrote about that politics is the art of advantage and Billy frowning upon we earthlings tendencies to be diplomatic it seems that the majority of us earthlings are in a zombified trance matrix that it feels really creepy sometimes just thinking about it.
Just picture in your mind of organic robots preprogrammed to backstab, kill other OR that have different colour and looks, be jealous of other OR that are doing better than them, engage in betrayal once their OR friends have passed their use by date and usefulness, be magalomaniacal and self aggrandizing to the point where most OR want to be top dogs and want to control the world, gang upon their weaker OR siblings, stir up discord and pit one OR against another by blaming them for something they didn't do, lie lie lie its way out of trouble and brainwash other OR in the same style as the pigs in the Animal Farm, create 1984 dystopian society and from time to time amuse themselves with Catching Fire Hunger Games, be as rich as quickly as possible no matter what the law or the rule is, treat the environment, fellow OR and nature as just 'stuff' they use to make vast sums of profit and wealth and so on.
So you can see how complex and sticky situation will get as one programmed intention is competing against another from a win/lose scarcity mentality that will 100% gurantee the effect from its cause violence, hatred, war, murder, conflict, invasion and conquest.
So I can understand that as far as Putin is concerned he is the better of the devil we know than the other psychopathic war mongering satans like Cheney, McCain, Brezinski, Kissinger, Rockefeller, Netanyahu, Merkel, van Rompuy, Task, Juncker and many other string pullers who are part of the 'Dark Order' group within a group that plays off against each other |
Baselineplayer
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2015 - 06:54 am: |
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Newinitiation:
Why is Putin according to your post the less evil among evil warmongers?
He is not better at all. He is definitively in the same boat as Cheney and Bush. The same points of view there human rights are less worth than own power ambitions.
As we say there I live: Angry cats gets clawed skin.
These words suits well at warmongers like Putin today.
I only note how people acts, not how they talk. Too many of these world leaders talk nice words, but it is their deeds that tells the truth about them.
Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards
/Baselineplayer
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1399
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2015 - 01:58 pm: |
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And so it shall be that they will be known by their fruit that they'll bear and just as you said I have also come to my conclusion based on Putin's deeds that I know of.
I guess it's a moot point debating about who is the lesser evil between many of the leaders as I have repeated stated that essentially they are all the same.
But since you've asked I'll just state the facts behind my opinions about Putin contrary in degree to how Billy described him.
As of now and after over a decade as the president and prime minister of Russia, Putin's policies both domestic and international haven't resulted in over 1000 military bases and weapons installation all over the world unlike the US.
Putin didn't order the invasions of another country and toppled legitimately elected leaders unlike his counterparts in US and EU.
Putin didn't use illegal economic sanctions that have decimated a whole nation against another country on flimsy and false evidence unlike the US.
Putin didn't order an assassination attempt on another nation's leader unlike the US and EU.
Putin didn't make Russia play world's police and meddle in the domestic affairs of another country unlike the US.
Putin didn't send his special forces to destablise another country to steal their resources and engage in nation building unlike the US presidents.
Putin's policies haven't resulted in millionfold death of men, women, children and the elderly unlike the US.
The list goes on and on and the facts speaks for itself I think but if you have any evidence contrary to what I have stated I'll be more than pleased to see them.
Matt lee |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 519
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Monday, March 02, 2015 - 07:53 am: |
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We make Putin out to be a very, very bad man, very bad, very bad man, yep a very bad man.
But what has he done?
Uh....
well...
hmmm...
After America caused a coup and installed an Israeli dictator, Putin offered to help the bombed-our refugees streaming into Russia with food and shelter, then sent long supply lines into the strife-riven Ukrainian areas, just to keep people from freezing/starving to death. Sounds pretty evil to me.
But this isn't about Putin. We don't start wars or otherwise destroy whole countries just to murder a single madman,
(except in the case of Manuel Noriega, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez,
Saddam Insane, Bashar al-Assad, Muammar Gaddafi, Ali Khamenei
Kim Jung-Il (who changed his name to Kim Jung-Un upon his death)
and the utter devil himself, Adolf Hitler)
no we don't start whole wars to murder just one single ultra-vile animate lump of human flesh, no we wouldn't do that. Instead we go war to free sadly deluded whole countries full of people from the clutches of tyranny. We are building the pitch and frenzy to go to war with the poor misguided Russian people... who obvious must all be very evil, very bad, veryveryvery bad people, and who in any case are uneducated, just lack any sense of humor or good manners. These poor people need our help - they are desperately seeking to escape the clutches of communism.
Our Western media magnates direct blatantly lie to us when it suits them. I simply don't believe anything they say anymore.
Oh, and guess what? They know this, so they are buying up all the small alternative news sources they possibly can, and twisting them around, too.
Lies, lies, lies, lies, lies... and we are supposed to go to war over this stuff?
Our own (benevolent...) fifth column lies so much it stoopid, stuepid, stupidifies us.
If there is an enemy here, it's already inside our own gates.
Do you really want to rush into a global nucular war over what these liars say?
Truth be told, we really don't know much about what's going on on the ground in Eastern Ukraine.
Life
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Truthseeker
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Post Number: 395
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 02:59 am: |
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Hi there Blake and Kingman. I understand what you are saying and agree, but there is nothing wrong with using some metaphors and even some humor with it from time to time, even in situations like these which i will explain in just a minute, and yes I did explain it as such, so that there would not be any resulting confusion with a cynical answer which I did deliberately back in response to MH's initial criticism question, when my initial statements were actually just a speculation to hear out other people's insights and thoughts, without the intentions of someone like MH, suddenly getting all defensive about it, unless I'm mistaken, while blowing any dust from my head back into his eyes. Oh and by the way, as preposterous as my initial comment may have seemed, there is actually some future reference to it in contact report 251, even if it does eventually or does not say involve the real Gilgamesh (or someone like him), where-ever he may now be, since Billy has not really specified on it and perhaps never will for certain reasons, or if he does not know himself. But there is nothing wrong with saying that yes the possibilities exit.
Michael Horn regarding your Statement "There are things that I don't know if Meier and the Plejaren are right about, like crop circles and chemtrails": OK your objections are noted and fair enough.
Newinitiation I am a truth-seeker and in answer to Cory, yes I've also thought of that too in regards to China with Russia and Canada with the USA, etc, in the even of a world war 3 when more countries get involved in taking sides with each other, etc. Although I seem to recall something to the effect that Russia and China at a later time in the war will later actually get into a conflict with each other, from which Russia will lose a good portion of its land to China. "It's also a SPECULATION of mine" that it's possible that this conquered land by China well at some point in time in the future become the new country of Eurasia, by so called people who may want to regard themselves as Eurasians. Does it mean it's going to happen like that, no it doesn't as much as yes it could. So any person reading this would have to come to his or her conclusions as to defining the deference between speculations as apposed to something stated as a fact, as with any related speculation really, or else it may become "dust in the eyes".
Anyway, Billy once explained to a friend of mine who at the time when visiting the center in Switzerland that when things get overly stressed, dire and overly serious that the thing to do at that point is to think of "Castles in the sky". BUT at the same time that does not imply that ignoring a problem will make it disappear such as for example the ISIS CRISIS which as Billy indicates should be dealt with as soon as possible by all countries responsibly capable with a collaboration.
Unfortunately it's obvious to me that such a collaborated effort of countries is not going to happen anytime soon while Russia is being cornered in like a rat in a cage, therefore as much as Vladimir Putin may have problems, I don't believe him as someone who would be entirely evil. If anything and for what it's worth, It should be more of a concern that the western countries along with the USA should put aside their differences, back off from Russia and establish a collaborated effort to deal with the ISIS CRISIS before it's to late. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1403
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 10:50 am: |
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Michael you said
Kim Jung-Il (who changed his name to Kim Jung-Un upon his death)
I am in Korea and I tend to keep up to date with the latest local and national news but I have never heard of this before.
Strange.
Have I missed something.
Could you provide a reference for where you heard Kim Jong Il change his name to exactly what his son's name is upon his death?
Cheers
Matt lee |
Corey
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Post Number: 771
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2015 - 08:16 pm: |
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James,
Can you reference what you say is in contact 251?
Can you reference where in Billy's writings you read that Russia and China will get into conflict with each other, and Russia will lose a big part of it's land to China?
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 521
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 03:06 am: |
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Howdy Matt,
That was in reference to how we were told to despise one evil dictator of N. Korea after another, without even a stutter in the drumbeat when Kim Jung-Il died.
I just wish people could figure it out: we are led around with our shackled nose-rings by whoever runs our media system. We are supposed to hate Russians, then the cold-war is over, then we hate Russians again. I've been yanked around so much, and it just seems so arbitrary, I can't keep up with who the enemy is, or why. The only people I truly distrust are the people who weave false stories in order to manipulate me and my sympathies. This includes foreigners such the IS, as much as it does domestic meddlers, such as the (unmentionable) or the (unmentionable). Everyone else seems to me to be just peoples trying to figure out how make it in this overly-competitive world without hurting their neighbors. Russian media appears to me to be presenting a closer version of the truth than our own, and they are reporting that we've been the aggressors in the Ukraine by proxy.
By the way, we are sending about 600 troops to the Ukraine now, to train the Ukrainian military to be more effective at killing separatists living in Eastern Ukraine. That and we are shipping the Ukrainian puppet-government more arms through third party mercenaries. This is that thin red line we weren't supposed to cross. I guess they yearned for our assistance so much we had to help. It's just too sad for words.
Life
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1001
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 07:48 am: |
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Hi Corey,
This is from the Henoch Prophecies:
243. But this will not lead to rest, because the new Russia will continue its longstanding conflict with China over Inner Mongolia, with the result that Russia will lose a portion of this territory to China. |
Verlanis
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Post Number: 126
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 09:48 am: |
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It's in there Corey. It's in the Henoch Prophecies concerning ww4 listed under the probability of Russia losing Inner Mongolia to China, which I take to mean the entire eastern half of Russian territory. In the course of events, this situation would develop after Russia takes Iran, Turkey, Syria, and eastern Europe due to an unexplained falling out between China and Russia.
Jack -- 250 years of peace within the last 10,000 years, and we wonder why we all have a headache.
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Tetrahedron
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 06-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 12:52 pm: |
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I read in a book called the keys of enoch from jj hurtak that china will try and invade russia but will ultimately fail. My guess is that they would try and go in from altai? Well michael I must concure, though im not into that much anymore. |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 304
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 03:00 pm: |
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A MUST READ!
This is why America will go down as the most murderous country that ever existed...and most everyone stands by idely and claps for American exceptionalism...
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/03/05/crazed-washington-drives-world-final-war/ |
Corey
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Post Number: 773
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 10:32 pm: |
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MH and Verlanis: OK Thanks for the reference!
Blake_p: A informative read, thanks. American POW's @ Nagasaki? That's definitely something I did not know... Too see the fascism alive and well in the US for yourself is watch Fox News for 5 minutes! After reading your article, I am better informed, it's nice to know there are other Americans who are informed, and choose to see their government's warmongering for what it is. The masses just accept whenever their particular politician tell's them it's for the best interests of "national security", or whatever sweet honey of lies comes out of their mouth which leads to murder and more war. I firmly believe that the US will go down as the most murderous, warmongering country in Earth history, if we stopped the war machine, and closed all of our overseas bases, and paid off our national deficit, maybe we wouldn't collapse in 2020 (5 years away).
It's probably a long way off, where our planet specializes in using massive, non-lethal force to take down criminals, and terrorists, and delivering them unharmed to banishment for the rest of their lives. I can dream, right?
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1406
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 06, 2015 - 08:50 am: |
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America is the greatest nation on the face of this planet Blake and no one can argue about this sad fact. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1408
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 06, 2015 - 08:46 am: |
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Well Michael Helfert US has the most corrupt and controlled mass media in all of human history since the printing press was invented.
The hoards of phantasmagorified mass of citizens is a testament to this truth but thanks to the internet and the alternative media this is changing for the positive.
Matt lee |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 522
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2015 - 05:14 am: |
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Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is one among a small clique who periodically come out with revisements and assessments like this. I think they do more harm than good. They sprinkle 3/4's critical truth with 1/4 assessments that have a certain consistent bias which is Not based on a full accounting of all the relevant sides of an issue.
Everyone's take on history is different; we must of necessity emphasize and block out most of what has occurred in order to make sense of it. Although he is intelligent, what elements Dr. PC Roberts emphasizes and blocks out is Not what I would. Just because someone spouts with a generally critical tone about the same event or group that you do, do make sure it's for the right reasons before you find yourself in agreement.
Hope that helps.
Life
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1003
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2015 - 07:22 pm: |
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Michael,
We can agree about certain things with a wide variety of people, even if we disagree about other things. There's that old thing about HItler begin a vegetarian, which certainly doesn't mean…that all vegetarians are genocidal maniacs. |
Luz
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 07-2014
| | Posted on Monday, March 09, 2015 - 01:32 am: |
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Newinitiation are you kidding ?
The nation you defend is responsible for most wars since ages until now, it's responsible to all the middle east unrest, Africa, Ucraine, etc.
I've found this, talking about Ucraine, it seems fake, but i just wanted to share and maybe get some input from you all.http://ufosightingshotspot.blogspot.com.es/2014/03/aliens-keep-watchful-eye-on.html |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 523
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Monday, March 09, 2015 - 06:23 am: |
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The closer to the truth we both are, the more we are in agreement.
With ever more than one way to see the truth, how can we both grow closer? Patience, tolerance, and a willingness to change... not because we are pushed, not because it's expedient, but because any change we do truly makes sense for us. As long as I know that you are good-hearted, which I do, and as long you know the same of me, which you do, we will be in agreement enough to keep moving forward together.
Life
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1416
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 09, 2015 - 10:32 am: |
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Luz just who exactly do you think that am I defending? |
Truthseeker
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Post Number: 396
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 12:11 am: |
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So i just read some interesting news this past week where separatists groups throughout the Ukraine have now been attacking and burning down Catholic Orthodox churches, for which it's not just ISIS who does this to its own and other religions. Meanwhile it seems to me that ISIS is also destroying historical mosque sights throughout Syria, Iraq and Libya, aside from also attacking ancient archeological sites like that which may eventually include the Egyptian pyramids and sphinx to erase all traces of human history, culture, sciences and religion, which actually may eventually include completely eliminating their own religion, because as you may already know they believe that all physical objects and places of worship are only but adulterous to the religion of Allah and in a strange way they are kind of right for the same reasons that Quetzel destroyed the Israeli tomb of Jmmanuel. Even the Islamic Kaaba mosque in Mecca is a potential target for ISIS, however I'm thinking that if this is the case then it would not surprise me in the least if they eventually destroy and burn many copies of their own Karon, since many more Muslims actually do worship this book as a physical object. If so they could end up taking humanity back thousands of years in technical evolution. |
Str0323
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 02-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 12:13 pm: |
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Hello everyone.
It seems that the Henoch prophecies are becoming fulfilled.
"Canada to spend billions on Arctic military equipment - report"
http://rt.com/news/240741-canada-arctic-resources-military/
The ignorance of the people commenting on the article truly is scary.
Salome,
Scott Reed. |
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