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    Justsayno Member Post Number: 640 Registered: 10-2009 |
It's silver iodide that they are spraying. Done by insurance companies and apparently auto dealers. Yeah, who knew? Although I can't find anything about silver iodide except that it's detrimental to the environment. http://www.assembly.ab.ca/ISYS/LADDAR_files/docs/committees/pa/legislature_27/session_4/20110316_0830_01_pa.pdf#page=9 Mr.Allred: Okay. Thank you. My supplemental also focuses on hail insurance. Since I moved away from Red Deer, I haven’t heard very much about hail. With the cloud seeding that was initiated, I believe, in the ’60s and ’70s, has the amount of loss from hail decreased? Mr.Klak: There’s very little cloud seeding going on. If you look at the research, without really getting into it, the research is very skeptical as to whether it actually reduces hail or whether it act usually just pushes hail in different directions. If you look at our results, it would show that I think the only area that there’s any cloud seeding going on significantly is around that Calgary area, and it’s the Calgary auto dealers that are still involved in that. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Luz New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 07-2014 |
Michael, Mount Shasta is full of aluminum particles. The criss crossing never happens when a plane is doing a regular flight, nor the different colors they're spraying, goes to our brain. Also this neurosurgeon talks about the maladies people are suffering, even brain tumors, from nano aluminum particles: .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3lW-TGGlk0 These are serious problems, including vaccines, etc. Also, there are many very much interested in not making this spraying and its consequences public. | ||
Luz Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 07-2014 |
Friends, in this forum, who that think criss- crossing is just a "normal" figure that appear out of the blue, let me laugh, ha! Or show your studies about chemtrails, please! Read here more: http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org http://www.theguardian.com/environment/geoengineering Strange enough there had being a lot of babies born without a brain, neural tube problems, etc in US. Vaccines are causing a lot of brain damages also, like autism, narcolepsy, coma, because they include nano particles of aluminum and mercury. | ||
Luz Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 07-2014 |
Owning the climate until 2025, US http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf | ||
Luz Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 07-2014 |
Justsayno, it's not silver iodine, it's aluminum, strontium, etc, please see the imagine included. Please Michael and others, watch this well done video, from different professionals:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7swthngNxQg | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 910 Registered: 07-2009 |
> Luz, While the Plejaren were most likely correct, the possibility exists that = subsequently some parties decided to=20 experiment with such things. It remains to be seen though. And certainly = there are enough sources of pollution, contamination, etc., which exist = and could account for the presence of such substances.=20 Let's remember that the seas, clouds and rain can also carry and deposit = contaminants very widely. In fact, Meier's information about the BP and = Fukushima disasters also points this out. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 85 Registered: 04-2013 |
LUZ, I understand where you’re coming from. I see that there are a lot of people that say this and that regarding aluminum particles in the air and brain tumors from aluminum particles. But when all of these articles are said and done; it’s pretty much circumstantial evidence. There needs to be more concrete proof that a particular group is spraying aluminum particles from aircraft, etc. Keep in mind; most all aircraft are made of aluminum; in most household kitchens you will find aluminum foil and too many people are still using aluminum pots and pans. Most restaurants that use very large containers for preparing food are made of aluminum; many refrigerators that have ice makers on the market have aluminum somewhere in their construction that touches the water before it turns into ice. Automotive paint pigments, photovoltaic solar paste all use aluminum powder; all of which eventually sluffs off or oxidizes with age and ends up in the atmosphere. https://www.alcoa.com/primary_metals/catalog/Alcoa_Aluminum_Powder_Brochure.pdf I totally agree with you; aluminum particles are detrimental to human and animal health; it’s in everything that we use. Aluminum powder is used in many types of explosives including fireworks of all kinds. Liquid Rocket fuel is often made with using aluminum powder and many solid rocket fuels are based on chemical reactions involving aluminum. http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the-different-uses-of-aluminum-powder.htm Aluminum is used for one reason; because it is efficient for the purpose intended. In our society today; the best thing to do other than not using known aluminum base products is to eat foods that will help you to detox these metals out of your body with proper foods and exercise. http://life.gaiam.com/article/how-remove-heavy-metals-your-body | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 912 Registered: 07-2009 |
> I htink the following from Subhabrata is very compelling: " > I encourage you to read the 1999 IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) report on effect of aviation industry, especially contrails, on climate. > > The report contains data on contrails, how are their thickness are affected, altitude and humidity factors, latitude factor and contrails, when can they be seen vs not seen, criss-cross patterns, densification, minimum persistence (instantaneous disappearance) average persistence, maximum persistence (days), particle analysis, effect on cloud formation, reflective properties, etc. > > Some information from Meier can be truly shocking. Contrail/Chemtrail debate was never on in my mind, and it has always been an uninteresting subject for me, but I was surprised to read the simple explanation of the many complicated crop circles from the Plejaren. > I was initially amazed at the theory that they are created by mischievous village folks with ropes, logs and planks, attracting publicity and tourism . Then I read the connection between, dreams, subconscious, and crop circle occurrences. This again cannot be proven, so it is again a dead end - "take it, leave it or live without it" kind of information. > > Chemtrails are much like crop circles - in the bigger scheme of things, it is a non-issue. If someone is poisoning the planet with chemicals sprayed 35,000 ft above using 90,000 scheduled flights per day, they have done much worse than Fukushima or Deepwater horizon, even stand no comparison to the 900 million SO2, CO, CO2 spewing vehicles in earth on a daily basis or the toxification of ground water from overpopulation. > If these chemicals are meant to "dumb-down" the population, they are doing much worse than child malnourishment issue in Afrika and South Asia, or pro status-quo "learn by rote" education system all over the world (not to mention 800 million illiterates in our planet), even stand no comparison to the stupid soaps and sensationalist Government controlled news channels running 24x7, neither stand no comparison to the daily poison we are consuming in the form of brain damaging cancerous foods mixed with insecticides and hormones." > | ||
Luz Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 07-2014 |
I understand that contamination exists in our air, food, water, oceans, etc. but the fumigation or chemtrails used to change the weather and many studies show that and more worse, the nano particles are creating a very strange disease, that many doctors have to shut the persons with it's not, it's an illusion, you're doing it to yourself, etc. Kind of debunkers like you now. The person in this forum that you made fun of, after he said he got a burning sensation in his neck, and you said ironically that it was because he forgot to use sun screen and i think you have in one of your They Fly posts like he was making that up, etc. no very kind. Well here's from the news, about hundred of people that suffers from those nano particles that are multiplying in their skins and there's nothing they can do about it, nor doctors, nobody, they cannot "kill" or destroy it, please, guys, you "are sure" or believe in ETS isn't it? Why what we all see isn't OBVIOUS I wonder is a lie or other thing without studying just because Billy don't know it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyjrzgHsASo | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 913 Registered: 07-2009 |
> I for one don't know with absolute certainty what the situation is. I can say that based on reasoning, and information such as others have submitted here, there's a good chance that the chemtrails are not the big conspiracy that many think. Of course maybe they are. But I also suggest reading my new blog today: http://theyflyblog.com/2014/10/29/ebolaits/ …and also consider Meier's information on all of the new illnesses, etc., that will appear because of our environmental destruction. And hey, sunscreen isn't a bad idea when the other choice is over exposure to all that UV. | ||
Luz Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 07-2014 |
Michael, could you please get in touch with this neurosurgeon, he's in Fla, he was like all of us a skeptical, until he (as we should do, before being a debunker, studied the subject, in this example: chemtrails and he has a lengthy knowledge and what to do, his name is:Russell L. Blaylock, M.D He has said this:hemtrails, Nano Aluminum and Neurodegenerative and Neurodevelopmental Effects By Russell L. Blaylock, M.D. The Internet is littered with stories of "chemtrails" and geoengineering to combat "global warming" and until recently I took these stories with a grain of salt. One of the main reasons for my skepticism was that I rarely saw what they were describing in the skies. But over the past several years I have notice a great number of these trails and I have to admit they are not like the contrails I grew up seeing in the skies. They are extensive, quite broad, are laid in a definite pattern and slowly evolve into artificial clouds. Of particular concern is that there are now so many dozens every day are littering the skies. My major concern is that there is evidence that they are spraying tons of nanosized aluminum compounds. It has been demonstrated in the scientific and medical literature that nanosized particles are infinitely more reactive and induce intense inflammation in a number of tissues. Of special concern is the effect of these nanoparticles on the brain and spinal cord, as a growing list of neurodegenerative diseases, including Alzheimer's dementia, Parkinson's disease and Lou Gehrig's disease (ALS) are strongly related to exposure to environmental aluminum. Nanoparticles of aluminum are not only infinitely more inflammatory, they also easily penetrate the brain by a number of routes, including the blood and olfactory nerves (the smell nerves in the nose). Studies have shown that these particles pass along the olfactory neural tracts, which connect directly to the area of the brain that is not only most effected by Alzheimer's disease, but also the earliest affected in the course of the disease. It also has the highest level of brain aluminum in Alzheimer's cases. The intranasal route of exposure makes spraying of massive amounts of nanoaluminum into the skies especially hazardous, as it will be inhaled by people of all ages, including babies and small children for many hours. We know that older people have the greatest reaction to this airborne aluminum. Because of the nanosizing of the aluminum particles being used, home filtering system will not remove the aluminum, thus prolonging exposure, even indoors. In addition to inhaling nanoaluminum, such spraying will saturate the ground, water and vegetation with high levels of aluminum. Normally, aluminum is poorly absorbed from the GI tract, but nanoaluminum is absorbed in much higher amounts. This absorbed aluminum has been shown to be distributed to a number of organs and tissues including the brain and spinal cord. Inhaling this environmentally suspended nanoaluminum will also produce tremendous inflammatory reaction within the lungs, which will pose a significant hazard to children and adults with asthma and pulmonary diseases. I pray that the pilots who are spraying this dangerous substance fully understand that they are destroying the life and health of their families as well. This is also true of our political officials. Once the soil, plants and water sources are heavily contaminated there will be no way to reverse the damage that has been done. Steps need to be taken now to prevent an impending health disaster of enormous proportions if this project is not stopped immediately. Otherwise we will see an explosive increase in neurodegenerative diseases occurring in adults and the elderly in unprecedented rates as well as neurodevelopmental disorders in our children. We are already seeing a dramatic increase in these neurological disorders and it is occurring in younger people than ever before. | ||
Rev Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 01-2014 |
I know I'm on the wrong topic, but I'd like to know if anybody knows anything about who makes the Crop Circles. Is there any updated information regarding this? Thank you very much in advance.... | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 914 Registered: 07-2009 |
> Luz, It's not something that I can do at this time time wise. Of course logically speaking if the information is true it would mean that everyone involved in the spraying, their families, etc., would be at risk as well. And something about the suicidal aspect of that doesn't quite ring true. | ||
Luz Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 07-2014 |
Why i'm having problems with a post i want to share, i copy and paste and I got an "Error"?? Thanks | ||
Luz Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 07-2014 |
http://www.naturalnews.com/037451_chemtrails_conspiracy_theory_geoengineering.html# | ||
Luz Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 07-2014 |
Global Reasearch http://www.globalresearch.ca/atmospheric-geoengineering-weather-manipulation-contrails-and-chemtrails | ||
Matthew Member Post Number: 106 Registered: 03-2011 |
Re. Chemtrails Doesn't snow and ice only form around already existing particles, e.g., dust and pollen. Therefore if ice caused by plane trails falls to the ground and is analysed, wouldn't dangerous particles (aluminium, etc.) be found within this too, say, as a result of degraded air, etc., from industrial and human pollution, etc? Perhaps immediately assigning this to some secret agenda is actually missing the point of how much damage we are doing to air quality and that nasties are to be found in the air as a result. Matthew | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1339 Registered: 07-2005 |
I think these conspiracy minded folks are confusing the military experiments done on cloud seeding with chemtrail conspiracy. Yes some military experiments did take place I think involved with trying to modify the weather but the mentality of conspiracy nutcases always involves absence of sound logic and common sense therefore what can you call this but 'silent revolution of conspiracy obsession' | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 107 Registered: 04-2013 |
Matthew, Excellent point on Chemtrails; you’re right on target with your reason and logic. My understanding is that there are 400,000 to 500,000 max in the air on a given day's peak hour, worldwide. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2515 Registered: 12-1999 |
I'm not convinced that " Chemtrails" are just a result of atmospheric changes...something to consider Aerosol Crimes | ||
Mait New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 05-2014 |
Billy s words on this matter... http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_035 | ||
Scotty New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 09-2010 |
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/ This is an informative site from Dr. Wiggington | ||
Luz Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 07-2014 |
Here, this is lab report from Switzerland's CERN, by scientists:https://chemtrailsplanet.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/switzerland-chemtrails-and-lab-report.jpg |
