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Corey
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Post Number: 506
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Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2013 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

blasting a asteroid can shower the Earth with the bits that are left over, that is why the Plejaren do not recommend using a nuclear detonation to try and destroy Apophis, just a detonation exploded just so (that does not harm the meteor), just knocking it off collision course with the Earth for example.

Salome

Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Mark92111
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Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2013 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In post #32 I mentioned I was sharing a video. (Article) is a more fitting word. No video to be found at the provided link. Sorry for any confusion.
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Corey
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Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2013 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think that Japan blasting a non Earth threating asteroid to study the rock samples is ok, and from the article, Japan is going to zero in on an asteroid between the Earth and Mars. Just trying to use a cannon like that in an emergency situation to try and prevent a meteor from impacting the Earth is only increasing the danger from the left over meteor bits. But it doesn't sound like that is what it's going to be used for.
Nice article.

Salome

Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 05:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We know that the asteroid belt was at one time the planet Malona; by bring back samples of this asteroid to Earth, could there be a concern of also bringing in a virus or other microbe foreign to Earth humans that could be of concern?
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The vicious wolf/WUV comes to mind Kenneth from CN251
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Bronzedesk
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Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 06:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anything is possible although whether or not it is probable remains to be seen!
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Justsayno
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Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 07:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You mean like Legonaires disease, Kenneth?
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Darcy_carlile
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Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2013 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apophis will hit the Earth April 13 2029 is my guess. And other meteorites will continue to unite with the Earth after this disaster from that same crummy trail that the dead twin sun is ejecting from the Oort cloud. These are my opinions because I have been studying the Meier material and Earth people still have done nothing to
change the prophesies in due time to prevent them from developing into actual events. Talk is like leaves falling from the trees, however actions bear fruits that are likely in more flavor than talk is.
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Corey
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Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darcy,

I agree with you 100%. Responsible governments and certain powers-that-be are doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING when it comes to preventing the Apophis impact with the Earth, others are doing their best to deny and cover up the truth. When it strikes it will create a wave of death and destruction that will be undeniable. We are supposed to be trying to prevent the destruction in UNISON, and in return, all the people of Earth receive from those responsible know-it-all's for such decisions is denial. It's like an ostrich sticking it's head in the sand to avoid a negative event. So foolish.

Salome

Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Billwilson12
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Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2014 - 06:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The contact notes talk about people being given impulses to get important information out to the public as in using science fiction. Just a few days ago a show that had Apophis by name in it was on TV. It discussed that Apophis is being pulled straight to earth, showed it being red at the leading edge and it was pushed away by nukes, russian and american equipment was used without breaking it up. The show was Meter Storm (2010) just how much help are we still being getting even in todays times. The acting was really bad did take away from the message.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2014 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Billwilson,

I know that there are a lot of questions re Russia’s involvement in Ukraine.
But if we leave the political area – in the field of science and discovery Russian politicians are very open for discussion and action – esp. re. dangers confronting our planet.

So it is no surprise that they are the only ones that speak about a possible hit in 2032 by Apophis (as mentioned in several CR):

http://www.universetoday.com/48912/russia-may-head-mission-to-deflect-asteroid-apophis/

This is not a one off - Russian politicians seem to be generally much more open, honest and ready to discuss matters referring to ETs with their people.

E.g. Russia’s Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev confirmed the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life in a short interview away from network cameras after an appearance on Russian television. (Sept 2013):

http://www.zengardner.com/russian-pm-confirms-the-existence-of-intelligent-extraterrestrial-life/

From this interview -

“I tell you the first and last time. Together with a nuclear suitcase the president has a folder, which is top secret and devoted entirely to the report by the Russian secret service which handles the control of extraterrestrials in our country. After the term, the two folders and a small nuclear suitcase are transferred to the new president. How many of them are among us I cannot say because panic might begin”

I simply cannot imagine - at least not in the near future - that a US President receives such a folder or gives such an interview …

Salome

Bill
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Markcampbell
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Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2014 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Meteor Storm ?
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Corey
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Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2014 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill,

That Medvedev interview was impressive, thanks!
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, August 01, 2014 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you, Corey.

I think the Russian PM's folder “devoted to the strangers who visited our planet” would certainly contain Billy’s CR.

E.g. I have – already several years ago – read in a science journal that the Russians are working on a method on how to best re-direct (rather than destroy) Apophis.

There are many reports on the internet confirming this
http://www.hudson.org/research/6757-wrong-decision-on-asteroid-could-be-earth-shattering
http://www.disclose.tv/news/Russian_Astronomers_Predict_ApophisEarth_Collision_In_2036/83480

The Chinese are working on a deflection method as well - e.g. report from 2011:
http://phys.org/news/2011-08-chinese-method-deflecting-asteroid-apophis.html

NASA, however, has a different attitude.
They seem to think "nothing will happen - we have time to wait and see.."
http://guardianlv.com/2013/10/the-asteroid-apophis-set-to-destroy-the-earth-in-2036/

In their report (http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/apophis/ ) they state:
“For example, the team found solar energy can cause between 20 and 740 km (12 and 460 miles) of position change over the next 22 years leading into the 2029 Earth encounter.
But, only 7 years later, the effect on Apophis' predicted position can grow to between 520,000 and 30 million km (323,000 and 18.6 million miles; 0.0035-0.2 AU).
This range makes it difficult to predict if Apophis will even have a close encounter with Earth in 2036 when the orbital paths intersect.”

One may compare this statement to the many CR that refer to Apophis - noting esp. Ptaah’s final warning (“… time presses.”) that there is no time to lose (to form a worldwide co-operation on how to best stop the “intruder”).

Sources (among others)
CR 150 Part 7 Date: Oct. 10, 1981

Quetzal

493. The meteor mentioned in the prophecies, which proves to be of enormous size and will cause most severe destructions on the Earth, and which threatens to bring, aside from climatic and tectonic changes also additional changes, will threaten to split the crust of the Earth from the present-day North Sea down to the Black Sea, which, however, does not have to occur with certainty, because certain factors speak against this.
494. It approaches from the depths of outer space towards the SOL-system and is a so-called stranger.

Billy

You mean, that this does not refer to a known comet, which again and again passes our system on its path?

Quetzal

495. That is correct, because the meteor travels on a path, which leads it to the SOL-system for the first time.
496. At earlier times, it was never in this area of space.

Billy

And its path shall end on the Earth?
Could you not do anything about this?

Quetzal

497. You know very well, that this will be the case and that we are not allowed to halt this event.
498. The cosmic powers have pre-programmed this event, which could only be stopped or prevented by Earth humanity themselves.
499. In their materialistic and misled disunity and in their megalomania, however, they disregard all warnings and prophecies, so that which is going to happen is probably inevitable, as an admonition and punishment, if you want to see it that way.
500. And as this warning and vengeance must occur, we are not allowed to take any steps in order to prevent the occurrence.
501. Earth humanity should listen to your words and warnings, but that especially they do not do.
502. You stand in a lost position, like one calling in the wilderness, and only few are and will be willing to listen to your words, to grasp their meaning, to reflect about them and to learn how to act correctly.
503. Those who will not listen will find death in exchange, when the meteor begins its work of death and creates a new continent, due to an enormous crack of the Earth, from the North Sea to the Black Sea, from which will spew forth red hot lava, if the prophecy should be fulfilled in its entire proportions, which, however, has not been determined in its final consequence.
……

509. In reference to the event to be expected, I already told you that this one will part the land portion between the North Sea and the Black Sea.
510. Red hot lava masses and Earth gas, etc. will, in addition, create from it a deadly sulfurous wall, which, drifting westward, will cover the land and with that create an additional death-zone, if the prophecy should actually be fulfilled in its entirety, and if Earth humanity does not undertake something in unison to stop it.

Contact Report 475 Part 2 Date: 26-11-2008 - Best method to prevent a hit

Billy

To my knowledge the terrestrial astronomers have already detected it for quite some time and are calling it Apophis or something.
It shall either hit Earth in the year 2029, or only whizzing by very closely.
Should it be the latter case, it (the meteor) would reappear in the year 2036 and its close approach to Earth could really lead to a catastrophe if the scientists undertake nothing against it.

Ptaah

Its size is about 350 metres.
What you are saying regarding the great danger that the Red Meteor represents to Earth: the scientists know about it.
And if there will be no special influence by the outer SOL “trabants” (note by the translator: objects circling around and at great distance from our sun), a catastrophe really threatens the Earth.
In order to avoid it the terrestrial scientists are also urged to undertake every conceivable possibility to ultimately push the meteor from its orbit.

Billy

To my knowledge various models exist for this purpose, but the scientists cannot come to a mutual agreement on this.
You are saying that the fellow shall be pushed from its orbit, and I gather from it that blowing it up is out of question.
Therefore, only a reaction principle could be applied, like e.g. an extremely strong nuclear reaction unit, sun sail principles, or atomic explosions near the meteor.

Ptaah

Whereby atomic explosions near the meteor should be considered, because they are very efficient and produce a strong drift(ing) effect.
However, the explosions may not occur too close to the meteor in order to avoid breaking it up, from which an even greater danger would result.
Such a project must be executed early and not at that time when the real danger is starting to threaten, because otherwise it would be too late for a success.
Therefore working towards it must be started today.
Billy

And what about big reaction units and sun sail principles?

Ptaah

Those are also possibilities, but they are much more difficult to carry out, and the necessary effectiveness is questionable; besides, with regard to their efficiency they are not to be recommended because meteors are unstable with regard to a regular self-position which makes the application of any effective reaction units and sun sails etc. nearly impossible.
Billy
Those things have to be profoundly thought about by the scientists.

Ptaah

That’s really so, but time presses.
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Earthling
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2015 - 02:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/24/nasa-nuke-asteroid-plan_n_7651004.html

NASA has decided tis better to deflect-nudge asteroids off course with nukes than to create millions of tiny asteroids by blowing them up. Anyone ever heard such an idea before!? Ludicrous!
http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/

Bruce
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2015 - 06:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've posted a comment there but it's really far more helpful if other people post comments showing that Meier foretold all this.

I linked to this:

http://theyflyblog.com/?p=3281

...butI'll try to get a new blog up about it too.
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Learnmore12
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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The USGS is now saying that there is a big quake coming to the Bay area.

http://www.hngn.com/articles/112403/20150724/hayward-fault-major-earthquake-san-francisco-expected-day-now.htm
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Kiriona
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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Learnmore12,

THANKS FOR THIS - YOU MAY HAVE JUST SAVED MY DAUGHTER AND HER FAMILY'S LIVES.

I BET THIS IS A FALSE FLAG AND HAARP ACTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW ELSE CAN THEY NOW "PREDICT QUAKES"

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

TALK ABOUT SYNCHRONICITY.

We and they are New Zealanders and they are going to SF any day soon from Vermont.

I just called her and warned her.

Kiriona
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Learnmore12
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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2015 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are most welcome Kiriona. Billy and the P's have been predicting this SF quake for quite some time now and warning people about this.
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Kiriona
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Posted on Sunday, July 26, 2015 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Learnmore12,

Thank you again - I hope my daughter and family will heed the warning and stay away. We exercise free will of course.

I didn't want them in the US anyway. Especially in these times.

Arohanui me Maungaarongo Hoki.

Love and Peace.

Kiriona
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Philoe58
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Posted on Sunday, July 26, 2015 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its been a long time since the Apophis was predicted. Has anything been done yet to resolve this issue?

http://news.discovery.com/space/asteroids-meteors-meteorites/apophis-definitely-will-not-hit-earth-in-2036-130110.htm

http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/10/16451368-another-doomsday-threat-dies-out-asteroid-apophis-wont-hit-us-in-2036?lite

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/asteroid20130110.html#.VbXH0Pkq7IU

OR it will surely not hit earth?

Philoe58
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pjiloe58,

We've been trying to ge the word out, lots of links here:

http://theyflyblog.com/?p=3325
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Philoe58
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Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, nothing has been done yet???
What about the scientist in the east ?

Regards,

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