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Cpl
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Post Number: 739
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 12:26 am: | 
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J.P. Morgan was heavily invested in copper. When he realized Tesla's tower would mean no more copper cables and wires and that falling demand would stuff his investment he called in or cancelled his loan to Tesla. So the tower could not be completed and his investment in copper paid off, to the world's detriment in terms of energy supply.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 02:58 am: |
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@wisdomislove: there is still a long way to go from inductive charging as transmission technique to us finally tapping into the electrons everywhere around us as close to free energy source. What I recall from the contact notes is that researchers/inventors from East Asia are supposed to come up with the discovery.
Salome,
Stefan |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 181
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 05:41 am: |
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Hi Wisdomislove,
Thank you for your hyperlinks and welcome to our forum.
Salome,
Bill
PS
Re. JP Morgan refusing to help Tesla see http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/13371.html#POST71990
(Mail contains as well a hyperlink to a good Tesla documentary) |
Wisdomislove
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 02-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 10:21 pm: |
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Thank you all for the information. I am still relatively new to the case and have concentrated the majority of my time to the spiritual teachings so I'm continuously impressed by the wealth of knowledge there is in the FIGU community. Plus "Ich lerne Deutsch" which has been super fun |
Hunter
Member
Post Number: 399
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 12:57 pm: |
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Has Billy ever said anything about the Maunder Minimum or global cooling? The evidence doesn't appear to support global warming at this point. I see too many scientists focusing on just the past 100 years rather than longer periods of time. That seems to be foolish on its face, considering the planet is billions of years old.
Maunder Minimum Petri Dish of Political Change
http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/34854
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1069
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 10:55 pm: |
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> Both warming and cooling are referred to here:
= http://www.theyfly.com/sites/default/files/Predictions%20and%20Prophecies%= 201951%20and%201958.pdf
"climatic warming and climatic change will occur which will create = enormous snowfalls, hailstorms," |
Joe
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Post Number: 363
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 06:31 am: |
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Hugo,
The link that Michael Horn provided for some reason does not work, well at least for me it didn't work. Here is another link from his website.
http://www.theyfly.com/sites/default/files/Predictions%20and%20Prophecies%201951%20and%201958.pdf
and
http://www.theyfly.com/2007-human-responsibility-and-denial-climate-change |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 40
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 06:33 pm: |
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Joe,
i think you meant Hunter? |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 375
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 09:30 pm: |
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Joe
Thanks for that , I ad the same problem.
joe
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Joe
Member
Post Number: 364
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 08:39 am: |
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Hugo,
I'm not quite sure what made me say Hugo instead of Hunter. I meant to say Hunter, sorry about that. |
Hunter
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Post Number: 400
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2015 - 06:43 am: |
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Thanks for the links. I hadn't read the second one. The real problem in all of this is our own corrupt institutions. Trusting the current governments to actually be able to solve these problems, or to solve any problem for that matter, is foolish. That's not going to happen. A carbon tax isn't going to fix this, again, since overpopulation is the real root.
I've started studying Martin Armstrong's cycle research lately and reading that last article, he could be off because of lack of historical perspective. No one has any charting from the point of the earth's formation, billions of years ago, which would be the only real way to see the true natural patterns.
But Mr. Armstrong's involvement with government research indicates the aforementioned very real problem with our current governments:
A quote from http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/35118
"When I was called upon for research back to form the G5 and then wrote the White House warning that manipulating the dollar down would create volatility and a crash within two years (1987), I was told I would never again be asked by government for anything. I was told outright to do studies they provide the conclusion for up front and I would earn millions of dollars a year for bogus research reports. I said – no thanks! This is the way government studies are funded and conducted. They ALWAYS tout the desired end result to support some predetermined objective. Government studies are simply an exercise in political corruption no matter what the field."
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 378
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2015 - 10:16 pm: |
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Hunter
Somehow nature will fix the global warming.
Something that we do not fully understand but creation built this fail safe into the system.
He knew what humans are capable of.
joe
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 566
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 12:53 pm: |
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Somehow nature will fix the global warming. Something that we do not fully understand but creation built this fail safe into the system. He knew what humans are capable of.
- joe:
Do you have a reference for this, or it is your own hope?
I understood that we were on track for planetary carbon cascade unless we implement carbon sequestration by technological means.
Thanks Joe.
m
Life
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 379
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 01:24 pm: |
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Michaelhelfert
It is only logical that he would do that.
He is creation after all. Anything is possible in his realm , don't you think so.
joe
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Cpl
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Post Number: 768
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 04:21 pm: |
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Creation is not a he. The only people, hes and shes, responsible for global warming are we humans on planet earth.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Votan
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Post Number: 380
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:08 pm: |
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Cpl
How do you know that it is not a he. Have you met him.
I did not say that we are not responsible.
I said that there is a fail safe system built into nature.
joe
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Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 567
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:36 pm: |
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Votan, according to the Plejaren paradigm, Creation isn't a 'God'.
I know it's been a hard lesson for me to learn, but it doesn't help to anthropomorphize Creation. I am used to thinking of someone who looks out for me, or for my family and friends, or even for my planet, but that's not taking charge of our own self-responsibility. Creation is a living process, yes, but it doesn't think or conceive in the same manner that you and I do. To personify Creation doesn't add to the awesomeness of it, rather it takes a little something special away.
Creation allows, as in it allows species to end, planets to end, whole galaxies to end, grace, beauty, goodness, even all life and the universe itself to end. Nothing is beyond the allowance of Creation.
The manner in which Creation allows follows a set series of relationships. These are known among the Plejeran, et al., variously as the Universal Natural Laws or Universal Creational Laws. These laws do exclude the self-destruction of a delicate planetary environment. Nor will the Plejaren save us from self-destruction, no matter how much some few of us wish they would. Changing people's recalcitrance, self-righteousness, and know-it-all attitudes on this planet, however difficult, is the task of Herr Meier and those who follow in his footsteps. If we don't succeed in inserting common-sense in the thinking of mankind of Earth, if we fail in this endeavor, then the planet dies.
Life
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Cpl
Member
Post Number: 769
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 10:29 pm: |
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How could I have met "him" when he doesn't exist? I have experienced what one might call a slight echo of the magnificent consciousness, which by definition and as Meier has so eloquently expressed is a universal consciousness, not a "he". So yes, I know it is not a he: it is a magnificent consciousness that includes all.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with anthropomorphizing as long as it is made clear that that is what one is doing, otherwise others may misunderstand Creation and belittle it as merely a "he". It is far far more.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Corey
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Post Number: 889
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 12:08 am: |
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All,
The Creation is not a "he", it is an "it", as it is neutral energy.
The Creation is a Universal-consciousness that has an equal balance of 100% positive, and 100% negative energies, is neutral, and yet, within the Creation, all the high-values are present like love, peace, wisdom, knowledge, etc, but not like a person would have them ("he/she"), these high-values are the embodiment of them, for a Universal life-force of energy, at their relative highest levels. I say relative, because the Creation itself, evolves further, with every spirit-form that possesses relative absolute fulfillment (after evolving through the high council, and all 7 pure spirit-levels, with 49 sub-levels) that merges with the Creation. I must reiterate, that as a final step in it's evolution, spirit-form's merge with the energy, that is the Creation itself (the highest of all Absolute Absolutum's, the BEING-Absolutum, is what they merge with).
Personifying the Creation to a "he" is bordering on religious thinking (i.e. a "God"), although Billy does say most people need a personalized approach to understanding the "Wesen" of the Creation, but that does not mean to personify the Creation to a "he", like the AA pure spirit levels, through the Petale levels, the Creation is genderless.
If it helps, try and see the Creation as the universal life-force of energy, that is responsible for creating all life found in every Universe and Galaxy (planets, stars, comets, meteors, nebulas, suns, moons, human-beings, all the creatures that fly and crawl, flora and fauna, rocks/stones, etc), not like they lie, and say "God" did in 7 days, but through the natural millions of years long, process of evolution (and natural selection). Also never forget, that it is a Universal-consciousness, not a person, and the Creation Universal-consciousness is the lowest, of the 7, Absolute Absolutum's.
As for nature rectifying our global warming problem, Billy has said flat-out, that the Plejaren's told him we have changed our natural weather patterns, and systems, for the foreseeable next million years, and Europe may become tropical as a result, and lose it's four seasons, so the rectification will not be swift, or soon, and it will be detrimental for the future, because of overpopulation, and carbon emissions.
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Cpl
Member
Post Number: 770
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 01:11 am: |
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So that all can understand how Creation is not a "he" or "she", without having to believe what Meier says or in someone else's experience: Simple deductive reasoning and logic alone tell us that Creation is not a "he". Being universal consciousness, it is all. It is within all "hes" and all "shes" as well as all dogs, cows and elephants and rocks, and all of these are contained within Creation. Creation is not limited to any one of these. Ultimately to refer to it as any one of them is to belittle Creation. It is no more a "he" than it is a 'she", a cow or a rock. To refer to Creation as a dog, cow or a rock would clearly be in error. It is no less so to refer to it as a mere "he" or "she". All the "hes" in the universe make up only a tiny portion of the magnificence of Creation.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1072
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 01:50 pm: |
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> Votan,
"Somehow nature will fix the global warming." Haven't you learned anything from the information in hte Meier case, like about…self-responsibility and…cause and effect.
Next thing you'll probably be talking about "praying" for it all to go away. |
Corey
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Post Number: 901
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 06:35 pm: |
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Not good news:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22730324-300-leading-climate-scientist-future-is-bleaker-than-we-thought/
"It is not difficult to imagine that conflicts arising from forced migrations and economic collapse might make the planet ungovernable, threatening the fabric of civilisation,”
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Stefan_z2
Member
Post Number: 34
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Sunday, August 02, 2015 - 05:59 am: |
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Hi Everyone,
I want to make sure that you have not overseen that one here:
http://www.geekwire.com/2015/space-engineer-mark-russell-has-a-plan-to-harvest-energy-from-the-earth-using-rockets/
It could be a key piece in the puzzle towards not far from now kissing goodbye to fossil and nuclear energy.
Salome,
Stefan |
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