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Corey
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Post Number: 905
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 03, 2015 - 12:34 am: | 
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Stefan,
What do the notes say again, is 5 km deep enough?
Salome
Corey
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Monday, August 03, 2015 - 08:00 am: |
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Hello Corey,
5 km is already a major achievement, and I guess that the rocket use approach allows to go deeper than that. But for reaching the level of efficiency that the Plejarens federation is practicing, it should be at least 10 miles (16 km) – according to the Q&A with Billy in Bulletin 83 from March 2014. Exceptions are obviously those areas of the world where pockets of magma are much closer to the surface (Iceland, Kenya, Hawaii, wide areas of China…).
Geothermal energy harvesting from deep drilling is still an area in its infancy. A group from Iceland has in that respect recently done scientific and engineering pioneering work, some aspects by accident. See their web site http://iddp.is/ and you want to watch the short video. One of their research papers from the World Geothermal Congress explains the benefits of reaching a certain heat level when water/steam exposes favorable “critical” behaviors, which promises a 10fold or higher efficiency gain compared to current second generation geothermal approaches.
But even that latest work still assumes that one needs to pump fluid down into a neighbor hole for sustaining a steam/water flow. The Plejarens are one step ahead, working non-intrusive without pumping anything in or out. In that way also avoiding any nasty side effects such as tiny earthquakes.
Salome,
Stefan |
Corey
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Post Number: 906
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2015 - 04:52 am: |
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Thank you Stefan for the interesting info!
All,
Here is some bleak information on food security for the future:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/unstoppable-problem-making-nearly-impossible-212537890.html
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Joe
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Post Number: 371
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2015 - 09:24 am: |
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Corey,
Unfortunately in that link you provided regarding food shortages they continue to miss the "elephant in the room" which in this case would be overpopulation. |
Corey
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Post Number: 907
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2015 - 11:32 pm: |
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Joe,
Yes it is obvious they continue to miss the "elephant in the room". And yet, I posted the link so those in the "Friends of FIGU" community (English FIGU Forums) can plan for upcoming food shortages, get an idea of what's coming, etc.
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Tom
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Post Number: 46
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2015 - 04:21 am: |
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Using rockets to drill - that's brilliant, as long as they can economically remove the drilled material from the hole! Conventional drilling costs increases exponentially with the depth of the hole, which makes deep-well geothermal difficult to justify.
Looking at the profile of the earth's crust, if a depth of about 30km can be reached, there is much more heat - around 1000deg C. The deep well drilling in Australia to 5km only has access to rock at about 280 degrees C.
Regarding the issue of avoiding sending water down the hole, there is a technology which can convert a heat difference directly into electricity- called thermionic conversion. It doesn't have great efficiency at this point in time.
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2013/dec/09/new-generator-creates-electricity-directly-from-heat |
Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2015 - 06:07 pm: |
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Hi Tom,
The thermionic tech makes perfect sense. Have just read more on it. Great.
When discussing the follow up from Fukushima with Ptaah in the 521st contact, the message was that nuclear plants could be switched off in 8-10 years, and later in the conversation Ptaah stated that “… Heat power plants using the interior earth energy would with nowadays technology no longer be an illusion, but doable, as long as efficient planning and implementation would be pursued. By that all problems on earth in respect of the necessary generation of electrical energy would be solved, and …”.
http://www.figu.org/ch/book/export/html/2609
The stress is here on “nowadays technology”. Which means that no new scientific discovery or dramatic invention should be required anymore.
At the tech side of things it is becoming a matter of putting all the pieces of the puzzle together, optimizing them, seeking partnerships and alliances. And then there is
1) generating a sufficient dose of pressure from the media/public at large side, which will
2) force politicians/governments to move a bit (seed financing, policy aspects) combined with
3) industrial can-do spirit for elaborating implementation programmes.
Even totally materialistic mindsets should at one point get it. This will ultimately save massive amounts of global tax payers’ monies.
Salome,
Stefan |
Damozart
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 06-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2015 - 12:46 am: |
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Free energy should be one of our main focus objectives to save our environment. We can start with basic experiments involving magnetic field strengths. Look within ourselves to find alternative energy sources that we know exist because the planet has been visited quite often by the P's and other et life forms from significantly far distances. Well how did they get here?
I'm not a scientist.......just a human being with vision of a better world for all of us. |
Corey
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Post Number: 910
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2015 - 05:26 am: |
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Stefan and Tom,
Great info. Thanks!
Damozart,
If you watch the MH movie "As the time fulfills", Meier says there is no such thing as free energy, and that the world needs to switch to geothermal, to solve our energy needs, just as we've been discussing here.
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Bsnitkin
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2015 - 09:01 am: |
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This is a very interesting topic! I am liking how companies (see pasted link) are also coming around.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-five-geothermal-companies-to-watch/
Betsy
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Damozart
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 06-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2015 - 10:20 am: |
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Corey
Thanks.......geothermal for the masses I hope.
Yes! |
Votan
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Post Number: 395
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2015 - 02:01 pm: |
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Corey
You are wrong ,there is free energy.It is all around us.Tesla built the tower to give us free energy and he also tapped into the{ ether} to run a motor car without petrol.
He was a genius and he was written out of history because of money hungry people like JP Morgan and the like.
Even know electricity and water is a huge profit making exercise.
joe
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Corey
Member
Post Number: 911
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 02:16 am: |
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Votan,
Take it up with Billy then, I am just quoting him from the movie.
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Hugo
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Post Number: 52
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 02:32 pm: |
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I was a bit surprised when Billy said there is no such thing as free energy because there are many forms of free energy such as solar panels, geothermal, electric dams, ect. Maybe he meant it in a certain way like zero point from nothing? |
Votan
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Post Number: 397
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 08:27 pm: |
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In contact 238 Ptaah said there are electrons that
can be harnessed to move forward and backward.
Tesla had that knowledge. That is free energy.
joe
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Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 09:35 pm: |
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Hi,
As far as the discussion around “free energy” is concerned, it appears to me that each of you is somehow right. Billy had at least once in recent years been asked, if current claims by various people that they had managed to discover and use technical means for generating “Freie Energie” (in a literal translation “free energy”) would be true. In German the phrase is used like described on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_energy under “In pseudoscience”.
I also recall reading or hearing Billy in some context explaining the Plejaren’s advanced technology of energy generation from omnipresent electrons that fill the universe in unlimited quantities. He used the expression that one could indeed call that true “free energy”, as it will be disposable to every earthling, anytime, anyplace in the universe and make an industrial energy generation sector superfluous for us. The scientific details about it have not been disclosed to him. But some of you might remember reading in a contact note that two inventors from our Earth’s yellow race will one future day create a device for making that amazing way of energy generation generally available on our planet. Unfortunately not earlier than us having already gone through the advanced geothermal stage of technical evolution. So let’s get that done ASAP ;-)
Salome,
Stefan |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1103
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 10:05 pm: |
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> Good gosh, we're a long way from "free energy". It won't be…ALLOWED by the powers that be who first use everything for the military and destruction. As Meier pointed out - for those capable of understanding - things like deep geo-thermal are available now, as in NOW. One step at a time, try to grasp it and let the "free energy" wet dream manifest when the time is right. |
Votan
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Post Number: 398
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 11:38 pm: |
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Tesla stated that he could crack the earth in two and also the universe in two.
Lucky that the earth scientists do not possess his secret as they would have used it by now.
Look what they did with the atom bomb.They are idiots.
joe
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Hugo
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2015 - 01:42 am: |
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My uncle has had free energy for the past 10 years. He lives off the grid on a country acreage property in Australia. He has a large bank of batteries powered by lots solar panels. It supplies all his power needs, easily running washing machines and the like. He says he still has power even if there is no sunshine for four days. |
Cpl
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Post Number: 780
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2015 - 02:40 am: |
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Solar power is not free. The solar industry is government subsidized (by our taxes). Then there is the cost of panels and installation and upkeep. This industry is improving yearly and it may well be free from government subsidies before too long, bit I am not waiting for anyone to call and tell me the panels and service will all be supplied completely free.
Tesla wanted people to have free energy but his tower would not have provided it. It would have broadcast electricity to a somewhat limited area around it. Any country would need a comprehensive system of these throughout the whole country in order to broadcast electricity everywhere. Those towers would need financing, building and maintaining (hence Morgan's financial backing after realizing Tesla's was the system that would win out over his then current investment with Edison). That would cost money, and we know that the broadcasting systems didn't supply waves freely; they were sold under license. Furthermore, those radio waves (and later TV rays) are also much weaker than electricity yet they do not come compleyely free. Wireless is easy enough to broadcast and use because it's power is negligible. Compare that with the power to drove a one ton vehicle with four people in it at 60 mph and you see that Tesla's tower would not have been sufficient to provide all the power for everything for free. You will still need equipment to pick up the energy and transform it into usable forms. That's not going to be free. Tesla's tower would have freed us from the need of copper wires running to our homes and everything electrical (which is why Morgan called in his backing because he was the big investor in copper and copper wires which he saw as the developing infrastructure that could make him a mint); but it wouldn't have fulfilled his dream of free energy to all.
The split you talk about that Tesla found was actually his switching of the current to make AC as opposed to Edison's DC. It wasn't free energy but a far more efficient and powerful energy than DC.
The free energy, if we can call it that, that we do have is just too weak to run heavy machinery. Example, solid permanent batteries set up to rotate eternally are just able to rotate a board but they lack the power to drive anything substantial as well as their considerable weight and bulk prohibiting any useful powerful deployment. Just try it and see.
The sun does give us free energy, but its use is very limited because we cannot amplify it easily to use for everything freely. We could use the power generated by fast growing bamboo to produce some energy, but again the power output is just too weak.
So far we can only run minor devices via cheap energy or wireless waves.
BTW I am all for people learning about Tesla and his remarkable achievements and just this month have shown students a biographical video on him and advised a student of electrical systems to visit the Tesla museum in Belgrade. I do wish we had those towers because they would provide us with a better system IMO, but it would not be free energy.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Watchdog
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2015 - 08:08 am: |
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We live on a monetary planet. Free doesn't exist.
The key word is Clean.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Rarena
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Post Number: 759
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2015 - 11:06 am: |
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I agree that geothermal is a good choice. Geothermal is in use in California... anywhere from 10 to 25% of California's electrical energy needs comes from this source. Calpine has a plant that uses geyser chambers and wastewater... they kill two birds with one stone... they get rid of waste water, which turns to pure water steam and the steam powers generators which create electricity. Solar power is used very effectively and there are ways to put it on your roof to protect your roof as well as generate electrical power without tearing up your roof as the current technology instigates... I think solar on the roof and electric (car) in the garage is a good choice there is only one industry that would not benefit from this and that is big oil. There is a book from Australia I think it is called The Weathermakers... in it, it says: it takes four hundred years of sunlight (since the sun is four times less powerful in the Jurassic time period...) to create enough plant-like life-forms to be buried under tons of earth for millions of years to create ONE GALLON OF GASOLINE... and nuclear power is not safe... until we can put that genie back in the bottle... Free energy is not here and even Tesla did not have it yet... that is why J P Morgan shut it down... there was a cost to his dream of worldwide generation of wireless (no wires) transmission of electrical energy... it was not free... JP knew that the tribes in Ethiopia could stick a piece of metal in the ground and create unmetered electricity without paying for it and that is not good business practice... but the energy was not free! Tesla was intelligent no doubt and had a tremendous memory... but he did not create a perpetual motion machine it is not possible. As to the earthquake machine... that is here it is called scalar or haarp and is not an instrument that Lyrians play...
Wind is good... but it kills birds unless using Dyson type technology... I like wave energy but that again must be fixed in order to not clash with sea life. But to me... Nuclear which is easy to build but not easy to unbuild as Fukushima is now showing us... is OUT OF THE QUESTION!
Geothermal is the way to go... it is safe and always there...
Salome
I will always be as good and positive as my thoughts, feelings and actions actually are.
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Hugo
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Post Number: 54
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2015 - 03:06 pm: |
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Chris, if one overlooks the initial outlay cost of installing the solar panels and batteries then solar power from then on is free. I think my uncle paid just over 13k for his setup and that is for a 3 bedroom home. And he told me it is reliable and he has not had to ration his electric usage of items because he runs off solar power. Probably because there is no lack of sunshine in Oz. Overlook the initial outlay cost and in that respect solar power is free energy. |
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