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Earthling
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Post Number: 568
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 11:04 am: | 
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Jacob,
It would seem, going way way back, that one who was Jewish would have been believers in an JHWH (god). Do you know if the term "Jewish" (descendants of the Hebrews), is derived from the term for King of Wisdom / JHWH? |
Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 675
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 03:10 pm: |
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Honestly, I dont know.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 670
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 09:08 pm: |
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The root of the word "Ich" in German ("I") seems to play relevant to the old godly adage " I am that I am " , which I reckon as being presentative of the meaning " King" .
In a form of logic , the self-identity of "I" is as the "self-king" , or , that every one is their own king/queen of their own life . |
Sauroman11
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 02:39 am: |
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You are disinformating. In contact note 96 it is clearly said that first human being was created out dead animal and plant tissue. I may agree that course matter, stars were created out of "ur-soup" but all biological life forms appeared through slow transformation from simpler to more sophisticated animals. BEAM's theory just ignores laws, skips evolution
You described what is God, just called it Creation. It can be called absolutum, brahman, substance, mind, but most popular definition is god.I do not think that god is material being. He is something beyond spacetime and causality. I can't also agree that we are completely free from god. As material beings we still have follow laws. |
Jacob
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Post Number: 679
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 10:31 am: |
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I am not misinforming, I am telling you that the human species evolved from a ur-soup, starting with the basic elements like Carbon, Oxygen and Hydrogen, over amino-acids, etc.
The was not created out of dead animal and plant tissue, the dead tissue is fell apart in its organic components and was consumed again in a process that takes billions of year before even the basic human came in to being.
The Creation is called the Creation because IT is basically an entity which has come into being but does not have a name, only a meaning. Something so vast at the Creation cant be described easy.
The title god is something humans came up with to give a designation to a person with a certain level of knowledge, not more, nothing less.
god does not exist except in self-induced hallucinations, which have no baring on reality whatsoever.
Why would you attach a gender to "something beyond spacetime and causality", gender is exclusively for material life. Everything spiritual is genderless.
How can 'He' (which is a malicious lie made up by people who wanted to dumb down and enslave the human race for their own selfish reasons), exist outside space/time and causality?
You have clearly not untaken the effort to read the Talmud Jmmanuel with an open mind and inform yourself.
In my opinion you only want to believe what suits you and your beliefs.
It is really strange that you come up with contact 96 and tell me that I am 'misinforming', yet you claim in the same sentence that "BEAM's theory just ignores laws, skips evolution." seems like proof that you only accept what you see fit, does not make you plausible either.
Anyway, I am not going to try to change your mind, not going to convert you or anything similar, because I cant, only you can change your mind via logical thinking, but you deny yourself that because your not openminded enough to obtain the new Talmud Jmmanuel and inform yourself.
Also, if you are interested anyway, I would recommend that you use the search function on this forum and start reading, maybe this would give you a different perspective.
Good luck.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 674
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 12:13 am: |
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Thanks Jacob , for giving even the worst of postings the same attention you give all others . This simple characteristic says volumes about you , as well as the Geisteslehre .
Salome , Mark |
Borthwey
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Post Number: 228
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 07:25 am: |
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Gediminas, I see no conflict of concepts, only one of terminology.
You can refer to God as a "it" and view it as is synonymous with the Creation, yet for others God is a "he" or "she" with preferences and emotions just like humans. Nowadays "God" can be said to be anything at all and no one will be able to prove or disprove it.
Although it may seem better to call God to something that exists (the Creation) than to something that doesn't (an entity that influences our lives according to its will), that word as Jacob explained was not originally intended to be synonymous with Creation, but to designate certain human beings.
For the sake of clarity, it's better to use the proper terms. To attribute human qualities to God is actually more correct since God was indeed a human, who however wrongly equated himself with the Creation and gave rise to today's ambivalence and consequent meaninglessness of the term.
Creation does have laws, but these are universal and timeless and weren't created by gods or goddesses. |
Jacob
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Post Number: 684
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 04:47 pm: |
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There is plenty of proof for the Creation.
We are living in it.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Gib_niner
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Post Number: 138
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 07:30 am: |
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Nice Presentation here I think from this college Professor over at the Kent University - who seems very emphatic about what the new 'Ardi' discovery is telling us.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=707610096764&oid=19249249844&comments
Dig the well before you are thirsty. ~Chinese Proverb
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 621
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 12:05 pm: |
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Hi Andyrobson,
According to the Plejaren, beings like those known as Bigfoots (Sasquatch) in the U.S., Yetis in the Himalayas and long extinct dinosaurs on a high plateau in Central Africa and Plesiosaurs in Loch Ness are reality.
Read Contact 7: lines 141-146 from
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_007
Also note published in FIGU Bulletin 11...Yeti in China
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_011#YETI_SIGHTING_IN_CHINA
& contact 53 and also 'Bigfoot as a saviour' in FIGU Bulletin 13
“When we listen to a song we feel a yearning for the universal life vibration which exists in the vastness of the Creation. Through this, our consciousness bridges the barriers of place and time and discover our nervous life-force within infinity.” - Tagore, on the significance of rhythm.
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Farhad
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 04:05 pm: |
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God in farsi language is KHODA which is combination of two words, khod means he and a(not A , B,...)means came,thus it really means he came from afar physically!.and there is not any complication in its meaning period. he came from other planet to earth. |
Mahigitam
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Post Number: 456
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 10:11 pm: |
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"long extinct dinosaurs on a high plateau in Central Africa"
Suv, may i know where was that information about the long extinct dinosaurs in contact notes?
Beware the fallacies into which undisciplined thinkers most easily fall--they are the real distorting prisms of human nature - Francis Bacon
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Hawaiian
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Post Number: 58
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - 06:20 pm: |
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Sometimes I wonder if indeed some humans like those warmongers, evil ET's, Wall Street manipulators, pediphile priests/child molesters, rapists who all derive some sick "positive" feedbacks at expense of their victims are actually from apes since most, if not all animals including micro-organisiums don't behave this way OR they should be classified in a different category like sub-human?
Is not true that Darwin, the man responsible for his Evolution of Man from the Apes actually filed off some bones in order to make it look like there was indeed a physical connection to verify the "missing link" between ape and man? What a ruse and many main stream scientists still believe this imposter, my former professor is one who does and I only go along with him because he was in control of my grades, pay and approval of publication...ha ha unfortunately sometimes we must "adjust" to this materialistic world in order to survive. |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 06:15 am: |
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Re: animal's influence upon modern scientific understanding of evolution
Darwin did help bring the concept of evolution to the forefront of scientific theory. Previously, species were thought to be creations of God, not evolved over billions of years from primordial chemicals through a reasonable process. That he exaggerated his evidence to get his point across is not so unlike many of today's scientists who just 'know' that evolution must be the process by which mankind came into being, but simplify the story by saying that mankind evolved from the readily available cast of animistic culprits.
At this point in our history modern science does not consider the process of evolution being driven by some more esoteric workings, such as the desires of the spirit (Lamarck), or impact of morphic fields (Sheldrake), and attempts to explain evolution as ultimately only complex groups of chemicals interacting to their own best interests. Perhaps this mindset has been reinforced by the Bafath since that is how the Bafath must have seen people to consider them valueless.
How would one know if one is only a chemical robot, or if there is something more to the self? Right now, only through genuine self-inquiry. Who is I, what is i, why is I, and how? Regardless of how people act when not considering these questions, as long as they are capable of self-inquiry they have evolved beyond the merely animal.
Life
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Sarah
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Post Number: 195
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2012 - 11:03 am: |
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I question whether it would be the bafath, I'll check another thread to see, but haven't the bafath actually at least nearly gone extinct?
I tried telling people how from what I read, that there ideas that Darwin was the founder of athiest thought is a bit ludicrous, because wasnt he suppose to a thiest himself? Of coarse if I'm wrong in that, I'd like to know. But it seems a little odd for a thiest to be the founder of being athiest.
Anyone know what the evidence Darwin presented that man even came from Apes? I remember in school I was siomply suppose to take it as that, and not bother questioning it. If I did I would get an F. |
Edward
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Post Number: 2398
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 20, 2012 - 12:35 am: |
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Hi Sarah....
Did you try the Search Engine, yet?
Dyson and Divienne did a translation on that, if I remember it correctly.
The information has slipped my memory at the moment, alas.
I need a memory refresher on that, also....
I think it may have had to do with bones/skull tampering data, or something??
And from there on the/his distorted version was created...
Perhaps, someone can pitch-in??
Edward. |
Savio
Senior Member
Post Number: 703
Registered: 07-2000
| | Posted on Friday, April 20, 2012 - 03:03 am: |
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Hi Sarah
Perhaps you can find more about Darwin here:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_32
Salome
Savio |
Sarah
Member
Post Number: 198
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Friday, April 20, 2012 - 08:33 am: |
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I actually found an article. Yea, apparently he modified an ape skeleton to get his results. Now if thats not biased, I don't know what is.
It also mentioned something how he got it from Tibetan Buddhist legends. |
Edward
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Post Number: 2404
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 23, 2012 - 09:53 am: |
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Hi Sarah and Savio....
Thank you, Savio!
That brings it all into focus...
Edward. |
Paul
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Monday, July 02, 2012 - 02:32 pm: |
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Hello everybody.
I wonder if somebody can clear something up for me.On the new questions to Billy answered section archive through June 24, 2012 Joe asked Billy how old his spirit-form is. The reply is 9,600 000 000 (9.6 billion years old). It then says "BTW. the first human beings developed in our Universe 10 billion years ago.On the DVD The Silent Revolution of Truth on the Final History part on the Extras section Christian Krukowski says that the first human life-forms developed in the Universe 39 trillion years ago. Thet is quite a difference. If the Nokodemion spirit-form was the first to reach Arahat Athersata then it must have arisen closer to 39 trillion years ago otherwise countless human spirit-forms will have reached there before it. Somewhere I think the numbers are mixed up. Does anybody know the correct information please.
Salome.
Paul. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2013 - 11:04 am: |
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MISSING LINK between HUMANS and MONKEYS FOUND?
The missing link; scientists have been so fixated, obstinate and obdurately steadfast on humans coming from apes, they can’t see the
trees for the forest. Humans did not come from apes; it was the other way around; a long time ago! This is almost funny.
Posted in Science, 9th April 2013 12:14 GMT
Scientists claim to have identified the missing link between human speech and monkey chatter.
Researchers analyzed the distinctive "lip-smacking" sounds made by wild gelada baboons of the Ethiopian highlands and found striking
similarities to human speech.
Their noises are so human-like that Thore Bergman, an assistant professor with the University of Michigan, thought he heard people
talking while he was hanging out with the creatures.
"I would find myself frequently looking over my shoulder to see who was talking to me, but it was just the geladas," he said. "It was unnerving to have primate vocalizations sound so much like human voices."
Male geladas smack their lips to produce a distinctive "wobble" in their calls to females. These sounds follow a similar tempo to human
speech.
Bergman suggested the research identified a "plausible" explanation of how human speech evolved.
Kenneth, I moved your post to a more appropriate area.
Scott-Moderator
(Message edited by scott on April 09, 2013) |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 170
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2015 - 07:35 pm: |
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Well, here is some nonsense on the educational channels
TED, ideas worth spreading, is the title of Ted talks
Basically this program is saying that extraterrestrials have not been proven to exist, but SETI keeps looking. Then, this woman Elaine Morgan says that we all evolved from aquatic apes.
Aquatic Apes? I never heard that one before. Ms Morgan is expanding on Charles Darwin's fakery. Yes of course she is making a lot of money and notability with this gobbledygook. This is on the PBS educational channel wouldn't you know. For those new to the forum; apes are an offshoot from humans; a very long time ago.
Kenneth
Www.TED.com |
Votan
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Post Number: 432
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2015 - 10:58 pm: |
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Kenneth
Possibly we have blown ourselves up twice now and reverted back to apes.
joe
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