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    Blake_p Member Post Number: 345 Registered: 07-2012 |
Votan, While I understand your stance and frustration...telling people to just go away or circling the wagons against people who have not been through the education process of the Spiritual Teaching isn't actually doing the mission any good either. Think about how few of us there are in the world integrated into the mission,and how many people are completely lost or mistaken about so many things,like many of us were at some point. If we constantly are telling people to leave and not doing our job by educating people,or showing them a better path,how can we move this thing forward with any success in the future. Inevitably, some won't be able to be brought into the fold and will have to struggle until they are able to see the truth. It will be unbelievably frustrating for us all in this time period,but maybe that makes it far more valuable for our own evolution,even if we fail to get ignorant ones to see the light. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 417 Registered: 12-2011 |
Blake_p Yes but some people have so much hate that they will not listen. joe | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 346 Registered: 07-2012 |
Votan, I completely agree...for some people it's just not their time to change or be introduced to the truth. But still it's worth making the point that 99.9 % of the people in this world don't know about the mission and it's our responsibility to put this out into the world and we will have to put up with a lot of grief and or unknowing ones for quite a long time. If people are this ignorant now,in this time,imagine what Jmmanuel and also the rest of the prophets had to deal with thousands of years ago....but they still did their duty for humanity,spread the teaching to many unknowing ones regardless of the result so they could know the truth and hopefully at some point be set on the right path,if not in this incarnation,maybe with impulses in the next. Of course the whole, you can lead a horse to water,but can't make them drink is apt here. | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 634 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hello friends, here a video i made about desertification and overpopulation, feel free to share: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxYvyEmvz9s | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 944 Registered: 12-2009 |
After weeks of waiting, my copy of "Overdevelopment, overpopulation, overshoot" finally arrived. It can be found here: http://www.amazon.com/Overdevelopment-Overpopulation-Overshoot-Tom-Butler/dp/1939621232/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442863683&sr=1-1&keywords=overdevelopment+overpopulation+overshoot Amazon only has 19 more copies, so if you want one, you better order yourself a copy. It is a photo-book, of photographs related to the negative effects of overpopulation, designed to be a conversation starter, amongst family, and friends, to start the conversation about Earth's overpopulation growth. Believe it or not, the first press of this book sold out rapidly, and the second pressing looks like it will soon as well. It is a big, heavy book, so take advantage of the free shipping (any order over $35) offered by Amazon!  https://populationspeakout.org/the-book/view-book/ Salome Corey Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1605 Registered: 02-2000 |
Pope's climate push is 'raving nonsense' without population control, says top US scientist http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/24/popes-climate-stance-is-nonsense-rejects-population-control-says-top-us-scientist | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 384 Registered: 11-2008 |
Thanks Norm for the link. Your post regarding the Pope's climate push is 'raving nonsense' without population control is spot on! And here is an excerpt from the link that Norm posted: "Those thrilled by the pope’s intervention on climate change – and Ehrlich counts himself among them – were troubled by Francis’s refusal to countenance the need to limit population, the scientist said. “It is crystal clear. No one concerned with the state of the planet and the state of the global economy can avoid dealing with population. It is the elephant in the room,” he said." End of excerpt. Now you see how right both Billy and the Plejaren are regarding the dangers of overpopulation. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 950 Registered: 12-2009 |
Thanks Norm! Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 188 Registered: 04-2013 |
Why would the various world governments manufacture Ethanol (made from corn) if it cost more than oil production? It would appear that this is a Band-Aid because we are running out of Oil which all relates back to “over population” and the environment. A new fuel is coming to gas stations. The EPA has changed the rules on corn in gasoline. Important, do you have a vehicle 2012 or older? A short video Ethanol www.youtube.com/embed/ceW9Nc1hVHU?feature=player_detailpage This little snipped from the article linked below summarizes the "economic advantages" of ethanol. David Pimentel, an agricultural scientist at Cornell University and one of the foremost critics of ethanol, has conducted numerous cost analyses on ethanol production. He's made a name for himself mostly by driving the ethanol industry raving mad. From its very beginnings, when hoe enters soil, ethanol production has not changed much since the nineteenth century. Pimentel found that one acre of U.S. corn field yields about 7,110 pounds of corn, which in turn produces 328 gallons of ethanol. Setting aside the environmental implications (which are substantial), the financial costs already begin to mount. To plant, grow, and harvest the corn takes about 140 gallons of fossil fuel and costs about $347 per acre. According to Pimentel's analysis, even before the corn is converted to ethanol, the feedstock alone costs $0.69 per gallon of ethanol. More damning, however, is that converting corn to ethanol requires about 99,119 BTUs to make one gallon, which has 77,000 BTUs of available energy. So about 29 percent more energy is required to produce a gallon of ethanol than is stored in that gallon in the first place. "That helps explain why fossil fuels (not ethanol) are used to produce ethanol," Pimentel says. "The growers and processors can't afford to burn ethanol to make ethanol. U.S. drivers couldn't afford it, either, if it weren't for government subsidies that artificially lower the price." All told, a gallon of ethanol costs $2.24 to produce, compared to $0.63 for a gallon of gasoline. Link that might be useful: Ethanol's Nine Lives - - - - - - - - Excerpt from the 469th Contact Report, 11th August 2008. Billy: . . . Here I have another question concerning the petroleum extraction: *How much time do we have to calculate until the petroleum extraction with respect to the worldwide reserves is exceeded? Ptaah: It has already been exceeded for quite some time, which, however, is concealed by the petroleum producing states and by groups of companies. Billy: Is this also the case with Saudi Arabia? Ptaah: Yes. Billy: The petroleum producers are pumping water under the petroleum deposits in order to drive the petroleum up to the surface. In the course of time it can happen that the water rises above the petroleum reservoir and then, in the end, only this water is extracted. This would mean the end of the petroleum production. The whole thing would evoke a worldwide catastrophe, because the whole economy would collapse. . . | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 971 Registered: 12-2009 |
Kenneth, Lester Brown writes in his book "Plan B 4.0" on page 49, that if the entire US grain harvest were converted to bio-fuels, that it would only satisfy 18% of US fuel needs. Sobering, that, and it raises the greenhouse gas emissions during the harvest, and production some 37 times what it would normally be. It's sheer stupidity, to choose fuel, instead of turning the grain into food. Poorer countries starve, in the process, as when grain, that normally would be exported, is turned to fuel.  Salome Corey Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1618 Registered: 02-2000 |
Sad that this stuff in collage news site? The restriction of the number of children a woman can have seems to be something out of a dystopian novel, where the government controls every aspect of our lives, to the very act of reproduction. Any law that can singlehandedly prevent an estimated 400 million births is obviously imposing an abnormal stipulation on human nature. https://blogs.iwu.edu/argus/2015/11/06/chinas-child-policy-and-the-right-to-reproduce/ | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 457 Registered: 12-2011 |
Norm This one child policy was a farce as the wealthy and those in power there was no limit. Control over masses. joe | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1523 Registered: 07-2005 |
I am getting that God awful feelings today. Overpopulation may be a leech sucking the blood out of everything everyday but everytime I get this feeling something bad happens like a man made natural disaster just about to go off. What are they doing with HARRP anyway and why the collective consciousness is spewing out this disgusting negative vibe that has forced me into being a raging inferno today. Another environmental and man made disaster Pre emptively once again. | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 344 Registered: 07-2006 |
Newinitiation: I can only recommend participation in the Peace Meditation meant to equalize the negative energy surrounding the Earth with the same benefit realized by each participant in their own inner world. In the United States this can be done today at: Sunday, November 8th: Eastern (EST) - 2:00-2:20PM Central (CST) - 1:00-1:20PM Mountain (& Arizona) (MST) - 12:00-12:20PM Pacific (PST) - 11:00-11:20AM Hawaii (HAST) - 9:00-9:20AM For more information regarding the Peace Meditation see:https://www.creationaltruth.org/Events/PeaceMeditation.aspx#About-the-Peace-Meditation-25 Salome PatM | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1619 Registered: 02-2000 |
Why the 'population bomb' might still explode http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-le-1107-saturday-overpopulation-20151107-story.html | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1526 Registered: 07-2005 |
Thanks for the advice Pat I've been participating in the PM since 2005 on a regular basis but due to the birth of my son, which shouldn't even be an excuse actually, I haven't been diciplined lately. They say those who have a weak psyche are to some extent affected by the vibration of others. This may be the reason why I can't stand crowded places as the forces from people are overwhelming. Which gets back to your good advice I guess. To meditate and achieve the inner consciousness strength. Cheers Matt lee | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 100 Registered: 04-2015 |
Newinitiation, I'm the same as you. I can't stand crowded places. I live in Melbourne's outer south eastern suburbs which are fairly well spaced apart compared to most suburbs but I still sometimes feel crowded there. I relieve this by often going camping on my own with my 4WD to nearby beautiful state forests. I can feel it does me good. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1527 Registered: 07-2005 |
Way to go hugo 4wheel driving is fun but scaring But hey nature heals itself overtime I don't know what it is about moving rapidly inside a vehicle of any kind whether it is in a boat, train, bus, car, plane or on a motorcycle but it gets me in a contemplative and meditative mood and I find that I can think with more clarity and better connected to my inner self whereas if I am amongst many people concentrating and thinking is hard due to all the distractions I stay away from churches as the disgusting feelings eminating from it has a delayed reaction that catches up to you over several days after the visit and fouls your days. But the worst places are the crowded shopping centres like Westfield, Stocklands, Westpoint and Chadstone I don't know whether its the accumulated fluidal forces or subliminal messages embedded into the music with bright lighting but there is something definitely there Hey another Melburnian aye I used to live smack bang in the middle of Melbourne CBD on Swanston Street and it was no good. I reckon the best place is around Albury area The place around here is shockingly beautiful You have sheeps and cows grazing and you could literally see tens of kilometres of the wide open pasture in all directions with wind farms to the north Who needs CBD, St Kilda and South Yarra when you've got Wodonga. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 102 Registered: 04-2015 |
Newinitiation, as long as people stick to driving on the tracks provided in the state forests, then no damage is done. I get more enjoyment from camping in the forest with a tent next to a river. Albury/Wodonga is nice a big country town! I like Tasmania best of all. One day I wish to live there. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1620 Registered: 02-2000 |
Billy is Right! Islam is taking over Europe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 105 Registered: 04-2015 |
Norm, thanks! That is the truth of what is happening there and not what the mainstream medias are reporting. They only report the good of it but the truth is there is nothing good about it. I feel sorry for all those native EU citizens there and what terror/trouble is about to occur to them in the near future, if not already. Seeing that makes me feel glad I live in Australia which has the toughest refugee/immigration policy that the P's said all nations should follow. | ||
Mait Member Post Number: 13 Registered: 05-2014 |
Thanks Norm for that link. I sent that link to members of our Parliament. I encourage you to do something similar. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 459 Registered: 12-2011 |
Hugo Not really ,they just opened the doors to thousand of Syrian refugees. They will house them, feed them and give them jobs whilst there are thousands are unemployed and homeless. That is called politics. joe |
