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Kenneth
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Post Number: 205
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2015 - 11:37 pm: | 
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Norm,
Accidental attack. . . ; this is pretty much what Russian president Vladimir Putin was saying when U.S. John Kerry sent in "advisers" Ground troops where Russia has troops on the ground without the two sides having mutual collaboration.
Unfortunately, it appears that you may be correct, unless something very soon is corrected.
You would think that Ptaah would be frustrated over all of this Earth human nonsense (from our prospective), as Ptaah is responsible for the spiritual teachings and the various developments on Earth.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Jschwjsch
Kenneth |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 978
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2015 - 03:37 am: |
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Kenneth,
RE: Bush voter fraud:
December 14, 2004:
"Hello Billy,
George W. Bush was again elected President of the USA. Was he voted into his position fairly this time, or were underhanded machinations again responsible for his winning the election?
Thank you.
Answer
No he wasn't. About 400,000 falsified votes were stored in different computers in different Bush-friendly states from the former elections (= of four years ago)."
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Norm
Member
Post Number: 1617
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2015 - 04:13 pm: |
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Cory, but how does that effect the Electoral Collage. Which really decides who wins the election. |
Learnmore12
Member
Post Number: 41
Registered: 05-2014
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2015 - 09:08 am: |
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Hello Everyone,
This newsletter from March of 2005 from MH, states exactly when to expect the next world war to start from what Semjase has said, "....when the volcano, Vesuvius, will spew forth its lava, and with it announce the Third World War." This is just a small part of the whole document which mentions about the starting of the next world war and the circumstances surrounding it. It would be good to refresh our memories on this event. Please read the rest of the material at
http://www.theyfly.com/news2005/march05/march05.htm
Salome |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 979
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2015 - 06:40 pm: |
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Learnmore12,
Thanks for the flashback. It seems we could use a little refreshing of our memories of some of these prophecies.
I noted how it mentioned the upcoming glacial period, I wonder if this is an ice age that will come to pass, as a result of the ocean conveyor belt breaking down?!? It also mentioned the guilty parties will be removed, but not before they have a chance to cause more trouble. I wonder if the guilty parties, who will cause WWIV, will be removed?!?
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Learnmore12
Member
Post Number: 42
Registered: 05-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2015 - 08:25 am: |
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Corey,
It seems that everything is turning that way. The guilty parties, from what I understand, are the ones that are responsible for causing the WWIV. |
Votan
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Post Number: 455
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2015 - 04:02 pm: |
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It seems strange that the Henoch prophecies state that WWIII or WWIV will start when a major volcano erupts.
As if nature plays a part in cleaning up the mess we cause thru corruption and wanting to destroy earth .
joe
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 98
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2015 - 05:55 pm: |
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I don't get it?
If Henoch prophecies state that WW3/4 will start when Mt Vesuvius erupts, that sounds more like a prediction.
Also, Billy/Ps were saying WW3/4 was highly likely to happen between 2008-12 if I recall correctly.
So it all depends on us when and if it starts, and not set in stone? |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 981
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2015 - 11:48 pm: |
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Hugo,
It's not the Henoch prophecies that state WW3/4 will start when Mt Vesuvius erupts, it is actually the unnamed contact report featuring Semjase, in the theyfly link that Learnmore12 generously posted, from 2005. Although, another clue is in the Henoch prophecies, which states (similar): is the prophecies can come to pass when a pope no longer resides in Rome, which could easily come true if Rome is destroyed via Vesuvius.
As far as I know, WW3/4 is still a prophecy, but considering the update that came out last year (2014), via Jacob S. via Michael Horn, about ISIS, and the dangerous situation in Ukraine, and the BRICS, from Billy, that WW3/4 is more likely then ever before.
As to when, just refer to the theyfly link, that Semjase states will not happen until Vesuvius erupts in Rome, then it can no longer be averted. Although, I think as you state, it is not set in stone.
Some things that do, however, stand out in my memory from the Henoch prophecies are: the militaries will use lasers (the special ops, and world's secret services must have them by now), and there will be rampant pig/human hybrid killing machine soldiers (unknown if this is currently done, maybe in future time?). I guess like the theyfly link says, don't panic until Vesuvius destroys Rome, and like the Henoch prophecies state, when a pope no longer resides in Rome = prophecies could then come true.
Most posters under this thread, see the current negative world events like ISIS, rising tensions between US and Russia, as stepping stones to the world fire, not the actual event itself yet, which won't happen, according to Semjase in the unnamed contact report, until Vesuvius destroys Rome.
As a related side note to the unnamed contact report, the Henoch prophecies also mention the collapse of the Catholic church, which could also ring true, if Vesuvius destroys Rome, which can be linked to what Semjase states, effect of all of the negative history of the Catholic church = destroyed by a volcano.
I for one won't be happy about the loss of human, animal, and plant life, by the volcano, but I would feel mixed emotions if, and when, the volcano blows, happy the negative history of the Catholic church, is destroyed by the law of cause and effect, but saddened, by the (then) soon to be near, world conflagration, which, at that time, unfortunately, would no longer be able to be averted.
to sum up my post:
-WW3/4 can still be averted, if we (as a collective earthly race) elect rational leaders, who would make sound, peaceful decisions, in place of the delusional, fascist, xenophobic, religious-fanatical decisions. (not likely)
and:
-the people of Earth, rise up, and demand a multi-national peace-keeping troop, and implement it in a world wide direct democracy, to fight according to the Henoch fighting system (gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit [forced forcelessness]), to remove all power-hungry dictators, and terrorists (ISIS, etc.), and seperate them from society for the rest of their lives, and then use the force wherever conflict, and war, break out. (not likely)
-if WW3/4 does come to pass, it will be because the Earth-human tramples on the values of love, peace, freedom, harmony, etc. (one of the last lines in the Henoch prophecies).
-the final sign, that WW3/4 can no longer be averted, according to Semjase, would be when Mt. Vesuvius destroys Rome.
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I'll get into the un-creational Anti-LOGOS in a future post, which are a combination of religious, political, and military forces, which would be the guilty parties, responsible for WW3/4, if it does come to pass, which is why I was surprised Semjase said they would be removed (but not before they cause more trouble, which probably = they will be removed after the war is over).
I have always said, that the more effects we reap from overpopulation, and global warming, could lead to more situations of increased future conflict, which will not help bring about world peace, and could seal the deal to WW3/4! Think about increased natural catastrophes, depleting resources, millions climate refugees, the list goes on, and on. Billy has written that disaster will most likely have to roll over the Earth, before we learn about the dangers of religion, etc., and about the law of cause and effect, so, after contemplating his statements over the years, maybe that is what it will truly take, unfortunately.
Future time-travellers, and future generations that may skim this thread, may shake their heads at our naive statements, because, we do not know the future, or exactly what, or when, or who, will exactly play out for a potential WW3/4, all we have is clues, and they, for one, know the history, which is our future. But we have to experience it, as it may play out, even if that means, our deaths.
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As far as overpopulation goes, the effects will be catastrophic, and myself, and others here on the forums, and other passive members, and core-group members, and even Billy, realize this, and made steps in our lives to not have so many children, but the masses are so uncontrollable, that the disaster is almost certain to unfold. If, and when, you future generations read my words, I am sorry, we tried, the masses are so unknowledgeable and unrational, the red-alert distress calls did not seem to work!  We will try to survive the upcoming times, so our descendants, can carry the truthly truth, through word-of-mouth, and in the books, so you can benefit in the future! I have seen the photographs of the future beamships in KB block 2, and I wonder in my happiest day dreams (in the moments of wonder), what life will be like, when Earth people, live, and work, out in space, and on the moon, and fly in beamships, and I guess my successor personality will find out in 500 years. Until then, know that we in the past, were thinking of you, and wondering about you (who are said to be more peaceful then our race is currently), at the turn of the third millennium, 2000 years after Jmmanuel, because of a man named Billy Meier! 
Salome
Corey
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2579
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2015 - 03:49 am: |
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Corey,
Here are two quotes from Contact 136:
165. The severe quake around Vesuvius will only be the beginning of a great number of similar disasters in Italy, but it should also be the starting point for further coming eruptions of the volcano, which will create more destruction in the future.
165. Das schwere Beben rund um den Vesuv nämlich bedeutet nur den Beginn einer grossen Reihe ähnlicher Katastrophen in Italien, zudem aber auch den Ausgangspunkt zum ferneren kommenden Ausbruch des Vulkans selbst, der in weiterer Zukunft sein tödliches Vernichtungswerk beginnen wird.
166. The threatening eruptions of the volcano, however, will indicate that another world war comes within easy reach and that its destructive work will begin and be carried out, without it being able to be prevented, if the political and religious unreasonableness of the Earth humans should continue.
166. Der drohende Ausbruch des Vulkans selbst aber stellt das Zeichen dessen dar, dass ein Weltenbrand in greifbare Nähe rückt und ohne Abwendungsmöglichkeit sein Vernichtungswerk beginnen und durchführen wird, wenn die politische und religiöse Unvernunft der Erdenmenschen weiter anhält.
172. And the earth person should also think about why in ancient times Italy – the most negative place – was ever unconsciously chosen for the creation of the Vatican and why just from there, like many times before, the mark of death is set for the world, when the Vesuvius volcano ejects its lava and thereby spreads great disaster.
172. Und der Erdenmensch sollte sich auch Gedanken darüber machen, warum in alter Zeit unbewusst der italien-negativste Ort überhaupt für die Erstellung des Vatikans ausgewählt wurde, und warum ausgerechnet wiederum von dort, wie schon vielfach vorher, das Zeichen des Todes für die Welt gesetzt wird, wenn der Vulkan Vesuv seine Lava ausspeien und damit grosses Unheil verbreiten wird. |
Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 171
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2015 - 06:53 am: |
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Dear Corey,
Just a tidbit to make us think.
Where it says a Pope will leave it might also refer to that... in these days of two Popes one who will stay as to where one will go, since there are two Popes alive in Rome and living in Rome as it is now.
The difference is the use the wording of "a Pope" rather than "the Pope".
I hope you get my drift!
Bronzedesk (Mat)
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 99
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2015 - 02:19 pm: |
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Thanks Corey! |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 207
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2015 - 07:08 pm: |
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Bronzedesk,
Got your drift; but it appears to be more than that. What Scott says is accurate; all evidence points to positive and negative thoughts and vibrations; more positive thoughts and meditation can avert much of what is prophesied to come.
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 1530
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 05:29 am: |
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Since time immemorial the rulers of nations and the world have used very effective mind control devices and techniques to keep the masses submissive and pliable.
Fast forward to today with the ever increasing sophistication of technology and knowledge from psychological research the techniques to rule the world have also become sophisticated and complex on par with the tools available.
Some say 'start em young' and rightly children are very impressionable therefore such foundations as Carnegie endowment or Rockefeller foundation fund psychological indoctrination programs for freshmen in college to shape and steer the next generation of worker bees in line with their programs and agenda.
This could partly explain why Billy calls the scientists specialist idiots who would definitely have been through the usual academic group think indoctrination where thinking outside of its boundaries is very difficult for most.
So in effect people from academia who you thought would most likely be free thinkers with open minds are actually the most closed minded and toughest nut to crack in terms of the possibility of truth being considered for serious review by any cross section of the population.
Its not just religious beliefs that act as hindramce to progress but academic belief as well
So here we have occupying the vast metro city complex full of office buildings, government institutions, corporate offices, academic institutions such as university faculties and colleges, think tanks, secret service, military, local grocery store, and on the streets people indoctrinated with false teachings, impressions, ideas, philosophies, misinformation, disinformation, miseducation, diseducation, lies, illusions, delusions, fantasies, unreality, propaganda and so forth going about their daily lives impacting each other and reinforcing the madness and craziness of self perpetuating untruthly untruthful untruths in a never ending untruthful lives lead again and again every 24 hours of the day 7 days a week, 52 weeks and 12 months of the year vacillating from one false ideas to another and then another within the chaotic recess of people's ever darker minds that are filled ever more with basically poo.
And its the minds of these people you have to deal with everyday and not the real people themselves.
This is the hardest bit |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 1532
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 07:16 pm: |
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Well now how about learning the hard way and Hollande getting off his ass and help the Russian and the Syrians battle ISIS by supporting them with co-ordinated military campaign!
What else does it take for this spineless bum to understand the grave threat IS poses to not only his country but the rest of the world!
Now unfortunately it has to be said that it'll take one of these Paris terror attack on Germany, UK and the US to wake these zombified politicians to action.
Just like how the Israeli Jewish Zionist extremists have the habit of doing against the Palestinians after one attack they will foment some more straight away to add fuel to the fire.
Paris better look around their shoulders for more of such a cowardly and barbaric attack for it is a given that terrorist cells within their country will repeat such attacks very soon.
No western nation, Eurasian, Asian and non muslim nations supporting the US is safe from now on. |
Hunter
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Post Number: 408
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2015 - 09:49 pm: |
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It’s Just The Beginning: Martial Law Declared In Paris; Borders Sealed; Weapons Caches Found In Camps
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/its-just-the-beginning-martial-law-declared-in-paris-160-dead-borders-sealed-weapons-caches-found-in-migrant-camps_11132015
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Norm
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Post Number: 1621
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Monday, November 16, 2015 - 09:20 pm: |
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Something is afoot when the people want less Muslim immigration and the governments want more or not to slow it down or stop it. Especially after this attack on Paris. What's it going to take a nuclear bomb terrorist attack.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PcsJNhtGH9U |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 209
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 09:25 am: |
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Just as a thought; in America the right to bear arms is a Constitutional 2nd Amendment that protects the rights of the people to keep and bear arms, which was put into place by the Founders to protect the people from their own government should Government Leaders become tyrannical. For many years now, the U.S. government has been fighting to remove weapons from the people.
Now, like Norm pointed out, the government is not listening to the people about Muslim immigration. If there are a few psychopaths in control of many good people that will not bend to irrational thinking; what would the psychopaths do? Maybe eliminate many of the good people through subversive means; which there could be many?
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Norm
Member
Post Number: 1622
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 12:15 pm: |
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Reporters Chased Out of Muslim No-Go Zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjnV1pvirdU |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 209
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 12:54 pm: |
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To be clear; Billy Meier said that;
"Even Barack Obama isn’t the man he used to be at the beginning of his first presidential term anymore.
Unfortunately those that are in the powerful position of being in his direct, or indirect, sphere of influence have psychologically transformed him regarding his intentions about at least several political issues. As a matter of fact, he has been psychologically brainwashed, without noticing it, by his opponents from within his own party. . ."
From my point of view, Billy has never lied, therefore this information must also be the Truth.
http://theyflyblog.com/2014/10/15/billy-meiers-update-isis/
It's my understanding that a similar situation happened during WW-2 with Alois Schicklgruber who was supposed to provide a positive direction, in order to create a peaceful, united world and Earth humanity.
http://www.reformation.org/hitler.html
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http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_260
Semjase:
… Adolf Hitler was, in many respects, a genius. His knowledge ranged from a variety of areas of art and technology concerning a variety of sciences up to the use of the power of suggestion. In his internal form, he was an incarnate life form of very good values. Nevertheless, he wasn’t a man of highly developed spirit but rather a man of intellect and reason, who was destined to lead the overall earthly politics and economy as well as all nations in a certain positive direction, in order to create a peaceful, united world and Earth humanity. For this purpose, he was educated and incarnated at his place. He was destined to give a new style to the Earth, through a positive and enforced non-violence, and to initiate new forms of development. This was very strictly controlled and monitored. But ultimately, all efforts were in vain, and he was unable to fulfill his task in the way that it was provided. Through the leaders of the Thule society. . . |
Hugo
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Post Number: 108
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 05:06 pm: |
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Semjase: "For this purpose, he was educated and incarnated at his place."
What does Semjase mean by that? Was the AA or the high council responsible for incarnating Hitler then and there?
I thought Billy was the only one they did that too? |
Hunter
Member
Post Number: 409
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 06:09 pm: |
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Kenneth,
Well, this may be a similar case insofar as them being ET spirit forms, but Hitler went HORRIBLY wrong. And I feel like Obama was never who he claimed to be in the beginning. I believe the evidence shows that his birth certificate is a forgery and that Frank Marshall Davis is his real father. Just heard some disturbing new audio on the birth certificate issue today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTU6vvJ5vxc
And Obama's actions now with bringing the "refugees" into this country against the wishes of the people and the state governments is obviously very concerning. He's always seemed like a narcissist, and now he seems to be getting worse. It's either his way or no way and he seems to become irritated when he's challenged.
But expanding this refugee program is definitely a threat to the nations who allow them in, specifically because Meier warns about a Muslim takeover of Europe in the contact reports. Even if I knew nothing about the contact reports, just looking at this most recent Paris attack should tell anyone with half a brain that this is not a wise course of action.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Hunter
Member
Post Number: 410
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 06:12 pm: |
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Norm,
There are reports that the globalists are using the refugees/ISIS infiltration for destabilization, leading to more police state legislation and restriction of freedom. I'm with you, it seems incredibly strange for these governments to bring hundreds of thousands of them in, when they know full well that the Muslims that are already living in their countries are not assimilating.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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