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Mait
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 05-2014
| | Posted on Friday, July 31, 2015 - 06:58 am: | 
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Hi Philoe58,
Last month I sent the information about Apophis to 34 of our scientists. So far not even one answer. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1095
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, July 31, 2015 - 08:40 pm: |
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> MAit,
Please provide me - and anyone else who wants to be proactive - the list of names and contact info. |
Mait
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 05-2014
| | Posted on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 11:47 am: |
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Michael,
This is the fraction of the list. Rest of you can find here:
http://www.to.ee/eng/about_us/staff
Indrek Kolka- indrek.kolka@to.ee';
Kalju Annuk-kalju.annuk@to.ee';
Taavi Tuvikene- taavi.tuvikene@to.ee';
Tiina Liimets-tiina.liimets@to.ee';
Tõnis Eenmäe- tonis.eenmae@to.ee';
Jaan Laur-jaan.laur@to.ee';
Jaan Pelt-jaan.pelt@to.ee';
Tõnu Viik- tonu.viik@to.ee';
Michaela Kraus-michaela.kraus@to.ee';
Anna Aret-anna.aret@to.ee';
Jaan Vennik-jaan.vennik@to.ee';
Peeter Tenjes-peeter.tenjes@to.ee';
Elmo Tempel-elmo.tempel@to.ee';
Antti Tamm-antti.tamm@to.ee';
Tiit Sepp-tiit.sepp@to.ee';
Teet Kuutma-teet.kuutma@to.ee';
Enn Saar-enn.saar@to.ee';
Jaan Einasto-jaan.einasto@to.ee';
Maret Einasto-maret.einasto@to.ee';
Mirt Gramann-mirt.gramann@to.ee';
Erik Tago-erik.tago@to.ee';
Jukka Nevalainen-jukka.nevalainen@to.ee';
Ivan Suhhonenko-ivan.suhhonenko@to.ee';
Juhan Liivamägi-juhan.liivamagi@to.ee';
Boris Deshev-boris.deshev@to.ee';
Gert Hutsi-gert.hutsi@to.ee';
Rain Kipper-rain.kipper@to.ee'
Laurits Leedjärv-laurits.leedjarv@to.ee'
Additionally i sent the info to this scientist who work at cern particle accelerator in switzerland.
Andi Hektor- andi.hektor@cern.ch
Mait |
Joe
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Post Number: 386
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2015 - 01:18 pm: |
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Asteroid that could wipe out LONDON on course for hair-raising pass of Earth TODAY
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/592987/End-of-the-world-asteroid-Blood-Moon-September-apocalypse-armageddon-comet-meteor
Excerpt from source:
"But the US space agency insists it, and all the others WILL pass by safey - for the next few hundred years at least."
End of excerpt.
So this means that the US space agency is not concerned about the Red Meteor called Apophis which was mentioned in the contact reports?
It is also interesting to note that according to this January 2013 BBC link it states that the asteroid Apophis won't hit Earth in 2036.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20986464 |
Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 161
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2016 - 12:55 am: |
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"Europeans ask Russia to develop nuclear weapon against asteroids" TASS-Science and Space 16th Jan
Russian scientists say a nuclear explosion near a hazardous asteroid is a most effective way to prevent its collision with the Earth, though presently nuclear explosions in space are banned.
"However, if due to an asteroid threat will rise the issue of enormous damage or even the very existence of life on the Earth, those bans, of course, will be dropped," the press service said. The institute’s experts say, it is most safe to make a nuclear explosion in the far space where it is sufficient time before an asteroid approaches the Earth."
There is some hope which may come from Russia!!
Charles |
Votan
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Post Number: 478
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2016 - 01:49 pm: |
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Kiwiseeker
I do not think so.How do we know what the repercussions would be doing that in space.
joe
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 293
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2016 - 06:34 am: |
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I think Kiwiseeker refers to the fact that Russian scientists seem to read Billy’s information*) and act on it.
I have – already several years ago – read in a science journal that the Russians are working on a method on how to best re-direct (rather than destroy) Apophis.
There are many reports on the internet confirming this - e.g.. from 2010:
“…According to Nasa, if Apophis hit the Earth, it could release more than 100,000 times the energy of the Tunguska event. Thousands of square kilometres could vaporise in the blast, but the whole Earth would suffer from the loss of sunlight and other effects of the dust released into the atmosphere....”
Further details see
http://www.hudson.org/research/6757-wrong-decision-on-asteroid-could-be-earth-shattering
From Nov, 2011:
“Russian astronomers have certainly anticipated that asteroid Apophis could strike Earth on April 13, 2036. "Apophis is going to approach Earth at a distance of 37,000-38,000 kilometers on April 13, 2029. Its most likely crash by having Our planet may transpire on April 13, 2036," Professor Leonid Sokolov of the St. Petersburg State University stated..."
Further details see
http://www.disclose.tv/news/Russian_Astronomers_Predict_ApophisEarth_Collision_In_2036/83480
The Chinese, too, seem to read Billy’s information. They are working on a deflection method via sun sail which Billy mentioned - e.g. in a report from 2011:
“Chinese scientist Shengping Gong and associates at Tsinghua University in Beijin have proposed an alternative method of deflecting the asteroid Apophis to ensure that it does not strike the earth. They believe that rather than just blowing it up ala the European Space Agency’s Don Quijote project, a better approach would be to use a solar sail, as described in their paper on the preprint server arXiv, to slowly nudge the asteroid off its trajectory just enough to keep it from bothering us here on Earth. “
Further details see
http://phys.org/news/2011-08-chinese-method-deflecting-asteroid-apophis.html
I assume that NASA studies Billy’s material, too.
But they seem to downplay the possibility of a hit:
Latest Update in 2013:
“The new radar data, along with new optical astrometry, permits refinement of the 2036 Earth encounter, now nominally predicted to occur at a distant 0.388 au (about 150 lunar distances). This is 22% further away than the paper's nominal prediction of 0.317 au, though well within the statistical uncertainties of that solution (s142)
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Further details see
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/apophis/
Salome,
Bill
*)
From Contact Report 475 Part 2 Date: 26-11-2008 –
Ptaah and Billy discussing methods to prevent a hit by Apophis
(This CR only shows the English translation)
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Ptaah
Whereby atomic explosions near the meteor should be considered, because they are very efficient and produce a strong drift(ing) effect.
However, the explosions may not occur too close to the meteor in order to avoid breaking it up, from which an even greater danger would result.
Such a project must be executed early and not at that time when the real danger is starting to threaten, because otherwise it would be too late for a success.
Therefore working towards it must be started today.
Billy
And what about big reaction units and sun sail principles?
Ptaah
Those are also possibilities, but they are much more difficult to carry out, and the necessary effectiveness is questionable; besides, with regard to their efficiency they are not to be recommended because meteors are unstable with regard to a regular self-position which makes the application of any effective reaction units and sun sails etc. nearly impossible.
Billy
Those things have to be profoundly thought about by the scientists.
Ptaah
That’s really so, but time presses. |
Kiwiseeker
Member
Post Number: 162
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2016 - 11:26 pm: |
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Votan,
It is a matter of deflecting the asteroid.We would assume that an appropriate calculation could be made.A risk,of course,is that the asteroid would break up into chunks,hence the shotgun effect.Obviously we would have to do something,rather than hoping for the best,which is likely to end up as the worst. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 245
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2016 - 03:50 am: |
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Votan,
Maybe because this is what the Plejaren recommended; an atomic blast.
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Ptaah:
152. It’s size is about 350 metres.
153. What you are saying regarding the great danger that the Red Meteor represents to Earth: the scientists know about it.
154. And if there will be no special influence by the outer SOL “trabants”*, a catastrophe really threatens the Earth.
155. In order to avoid it the terrestrial scientists are also urged to undertake every conceivable possibility to ultimately push the meteor from its orbit.
Ptaah:
156. **Whereby atomic explosions near the meteor should be especially considered, because they are very efficient and produce a strong drifting effect.
157. However, the explosions may not occur too close to the meteor in order to avoid breaking it up, from which an even greater danger would result.
158. Such a project must be executed early and not at that time when the real danger is starting to threaten, because otherwise it would be too late for a success.
159. Working towards it must be started today.
http://www.theyfly.com/Red_Meteor.html |
Corey
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Post Number: 1047
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2016 - 12:59 am: |
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Russia planning on using ICBM's to target Apophis in 2036, good idea, or no?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-wants-target-near-earth-012123558.html
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 253
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2016 - 09:58 am: |
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It's my understanding that Apophis needs to be diverted now with an atomic explosion to avoid colliding with Earth, not 20 years from now! Bad idea to wait until 2036. |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 400
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2016 - 11:00 am: |
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It needs to be done before 2036 doesn't it?
Best before it goes through the keyhole or after that would be better
Salome
Ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Hugo
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Post Number: 153
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2016 - 04:03 pm: |
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Russia has by far the most powerful nuclear warheads so I think Russia is best placed to push Apophis off course. |
Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 163
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Monday, February 15, 2016 - 12:19 am: |
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Bad idea.Too late.The article also uses the word 'destroy',rather than deflect.
Charles |
Corey
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Post Number: 1151
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2016 - 08:11 pm: |
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an artistic conception of the upcoming meteor strike:
http://theadventuresofbillymeier.com/ABM_2.html
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Corey
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Post Number: 1151
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2016 - 07:03 pm: |
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Keep in mind the Plejaren said Apophis will strike the Earth "with certainty"; maybe NASA's new NEOWISE will help them reconfigure their calculations that say Apophis will not strike us in 2029, or 2036. I wish the Russian's and the Chinese were on board with the NEOWISE, as Quetzal said countries will have to eliminate this threat in unison, as a complete planet. I suppose this is like a cosmic test for our planet, so many lives in Europe, Eastern Europe, and Russia (and beyond) depend on whether our planet passes, or fails!
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/07/us/new-asteroids-and-comets-near-earth/index.html
"And Still They Fly" (ASTF 2nd edition [*]) page 265: Quetzal: "You know very well that we are not permitted to stop this event. The cosmic forces themselves have programmed this event in advance, and it can only be stopped or warded off by the earth people themselves. In their materialistic and misguided disunity and in their delusions of grandeur, they disregard all warnings and prophecies, so this event will inevitably come to pass as a rebuke and retribution, if you wish to see it as such. And because this admonition and retribution must occur, we are not permitted to undertake any actions to ward off this event. Earth people should listen to your words and warnings, but that is precisely what they do not do. You are standing in a lost position, like a voice crying in the wilderness, and only a few are willing or shall be willing to listen to your words, to grasp them, think about them and learn to act in the right way. Therefore, those not listening will experience many deaths when the meteor does it's deadly work and creates a new continent on the earth through a violent earth gap, from which red-hot lava will gush forth, from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea.
Billy: You said that so dramatically and unscientifically. By the way, it would be of interest to me where this earth rift would occur.
Quetzal: It is our only way to remain human while offering scientific explanations without using a scientific language. Scientific terms prevail primarily only among the earth people who believe they must distinguish themselves with this language. This is a degeneracy of cold-blooded megalomania and, furthermore, it leads to the belittlement of all dangers. This is one of the reasons why we -and all other intelligent and truly thinking life forms- never allow ourselves to fall into scientific language, but use simple human words ,instead, which have to sound somewhat dramatic because the developing drama of the abominable event actually exists. A purely scientific means of expression is always misleading because it is detached and impersonal, thereby belittling and minimizing the dangers.
-With reference to the earth right to be expected, I can tell you that it will divide the land between the Baltic Sea and the Black Sea. Red-hot masses of lava and natural gas and so forth, will also produce a deadly wall of sulfur which will cover the land, drifting westward and will create an additional death zone."
* = "And Still They Fly" 2nd edition English translation by the late Guido Moosbrugger. Copyright 2004 by Guido Moosbrugger/hard-copy for sale @ the FIGU-Swiss book shop.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 282
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2016 - 09:52 am: |
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Corey,
It would be interesting to know the Apophis asteroid’s size compared to the asteroid that destroyed Atlantis over 11,500 years ago. We know that there are other variables such as speed and angle of attack, etc. My point is, if Apophis does hit the earth the first time around in 2029; will it also change the Earth’s rotational axis again, or maybe even the length of a day from 24 hours to ??
So, what is not really clear are the dates of 2029 or 2036? If Apophis misses Earth on 2029 it’s understood that it will then hit Earth on 2036, and the reason for the first miss? Is it because we did not properly deflect the asteroid; or is there something else going on?
Kenneth |
Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2016 - 06:37 pm: |
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Hi,
On the “will strike the Earth with certainty”: matters are definitely pretty serious for us continental Europeans, but not (yet) at the level of 100% from a foresight. It seems that the most recent conversation on the topic dates from 1 September 2012. Ptaah uses the expression “if nothing special results which changes its orbit through any emerging unexpected factors or that it is modified by the Earth human beings, then it will result in the prophecies fulfilling themselves.”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_544
Salome,
Stefan |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1627
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2016 - 05:31 pm: |
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Hi Kenneth
My understanding about the flight trajectory of the apophis asteroid or the red meteor is that it'll miss earth by entering a small so called window very close to earth where it'll change the trajectory thereby making it certain that once it comes back after going around the sun it will definitely hit earth come 2036 April.
I forgot the link to the youtube video where it discusses this with computer simulation.
NASA has definitely miscalculated the flight trajectory and what earth's gravitation will do to it.
Matt lee |
Corey
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Post Number: 1152
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2016 - 12:06 am: |
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Kenneth: it is my understanding, if the meteor misses the Earth in April 2029, but passes through the "keyhole", it will return it's trajectory to strike the Earth 7 years later in 2036. The terrestrial officials state if it passes through the center of the keyhole, it will strike the Pacific ocean, they have not yet figured out that it will strike between the Baltic (North), and the Black Seas, and they probably will not calculate this until they see exactly where in the keyhole it goes in. Once again the terrestrial officials are playing with fire for not listening to Meier, and at the same time, they are playing around with a lot of European lives by delaying the nuclear detonation deflection!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4l7KB3qkYg
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 284
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2016 - 08:34 am: |
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Regarding Apophis; here’s the issue with most of humanity including our illustrious scientists (and sometimes smug Neil DeGrasse Tyson) and of course our Arm-Chair professionals that keep rehashing current and past information to come up with their own miss-guided interpretations; their all ignorant to the fact that the Plejaren are real and the information given to Billy is factual. The bottom line is that the majority of Earthlings (FIGU excluded) do not believe that the Plejaren exist; so, how could Billy’s information possible be correct? Secondly, the majority of Earthlings also do not believe that B.E.A.M. is a prophet let along the seventh and last prophet.
I understand the whole Keyhole issue; this is an Earth scientist term, not Plejaren. The information given to Billy regarding the size of Apophis is almost equivalent to a 5-story building, 350 meters diameter (1,148.29 ft. Diameter). Putting this aside for the moment.
If the Plejaren know exactly what and when regarding the San Francisco earthquake, as this is a prediction; then Apophis, a prediction as well, would not the Plejaren really know if Earth humanity gets their act together to deflect this asteroid? Or, could this be read as: Red Meteor/Apophis = Prediction; Earth impact = Prophesy, based solely on humanities actions? |
Corey
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Post Number: 1153
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2016 - 11:15 am: |
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Kenneth you wrote: " Or, could this be read as: Red Meteor/Apophis = Prediction; Earth impact = Prophecy, based solely on humanities actions?"
That about sums it up, or at least, sums up my understanding of this. Good job!
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Votan
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Post Number: 505
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2016 - 12:49 pm: |
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Kenneth
If the Plejaren really care they would send the scientists impulses to repel Apophis.
Also why not help to destroy this menace.This business about not interfering does not make any sense at all.
joe
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