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Justsayno
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Post Number: 680
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2016 - 07:23 am: | 
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Hi Corey, from what I can see around me, yes I do agree with what Erhlich said. Monsanto was claiming to farmers increased yields of 30%, which is a damn lie. And in the end they've done nothing but poison the land and water and don't seem to give a crap about future generations.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Corey
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Post Number: 1133
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2016 - 11:43 am: |
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Yes, as I'm sure you know, if Monsato puts profits ahead of the value of their fellow human-beings, then this is wrong. A measure of any great human-being is how they value their fellow human-being.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1622
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2016 - 04:27 pm: |
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Right Corey but the world we live in is infested with scums floating to the top of the food chain shafting everyone up the you-know-what and never blink an eye for doing so.
I am having one of those bitching sessions here so I hope people don't take it personally but just now I went to the Dick Smith electronics to find out what I can do about a TV I bought recently because it had a fault and the manager said that they were under voluntary administration which essentially means they were going bankrupt and that the CEO knew in advance about this impending situation yet kept it secret until the last minute.
I said why did you sell your product knowing you were going to go bankrupt and he shrugged his shoulders saying that only the board knew.
We need to lock up many of these money and profit hungry whore scums but most importantly to change the mentality of the whole human race lest we go down like Sodom and Gomorah.
The proverbial answer and solution always gets back down to people being ignorant of the truth about Creation and the spiritual teachings.
So we are stuck with the leaking tap so to speak where no matter what you do unless you change the rubber gasket or the crack in the pipe we will never stop creating the never ending problems for ourselves and for other people 24/7/365/52.
Only when TSHTF will people then lift their fingers but not before.
That is why once the flood of epic proportion happens and many die a terrible death in the millions will people notice a little bit.
Its the same old same old.
Matt lee |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 282
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 01:00 pm: |
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As Billy predicted and Ptaah confirmed; massive amounts of Methane are now being released into the atmosphere.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/wonder/scientists-may-have-discovered-what-caused-these-mysterious-giant-holes-in-siberia/vi-BBr7Qv9?ocid=spartandhp
Not only is the climatic catastrophe thereby furthered more than ever, but also still many other monstrous things occur through which life on Earth is put into question.
Die ungeheuren Massen Methangas können die grossen Mengen CO2 bei weitem überschreiten und
dadurch erst recht alles zerstören.
Contact Report 494
Billy:
. . . The monstrous masses of methane gas can far exceed the great amounts of CO2 and thereby, more
than ever, destroy everything. . .
Ptaah:
There is no doubt about that ...
http://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/translations/english/australia/stromatolites-and-gulf-oil-spill-494th-495th-contacts.pdf
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Corey
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Post Number: 1141
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2016 - 12:20 pm: |
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"Destroying wild rivers with large dams in order to generate electricity is one of the clearer examples of a false solution to humanity's 'need' for energy. Modernity has unnecessarily inflated this need; given the severe negative environmental impacts of electricity generation in general, it is amazing how superfluously and frivolously this form of energy is utilized. At this point in human history, our capacity to have blind spots regarding truly life-or-death issues has become one of our most prominent traits." -Juan Pablo Orrego
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Corey
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Post Number: 1145
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2016 - 12:00 am: |
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"Public infrastructure around the world is facing unprecedented stress, with hurricanes, cyclones, floods and forest fires all increasing in frequency and intensity. It's easy to imagine a future in which growing numbers of cities have their frail and long-neglected infrastructures knocked out by disasters and then are left to rot, their core services never repaired or rehabilitated." -Naomi Klein
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Corey
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Post Number: 1149
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 11:14 am: |
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"There are many ways in which we wound wild Earth and kill wild things. But behind them all is Man swarm-our population boom. Even in the short run, we cannot keep wilderness and wildlife without stopping Man's growth. Furthermore,it is nothing less then a lie we tell ourselves that we can stop climatic weirdness without lowering how many we are on Earth." -Dave Foreman
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2016 - 11:28 pm: |
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Hello Fellows,
Last week one of the potentially most impactful research papers on population matters since a very long time got released.
https://www.tue.nl/en/university/news-and-press/news/05-04-2016-population-size-fails-to-explain-evolution-of-complex-culture/
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2016/03/30/1520288113
My own experience from conversations with many governmental representatives and ordinary citizens from most nations of the so called developing world is that they are steadfastly convinced that having more people would translate to having more talents and that would mean catching up with other countries that are economically and otherwise more advanced.
Spreading the word about that story being flawed might thus be very powerful. I am doing that now via professional connections on LinkedIn.
I also stumbled across the 19 April issue of the UK Royal Society’s Philosophical Transaction magazine, with the theme “Understanding variation in human fertility: what can we learn from evolutionary demography?”
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/371/1692?current-issue=y
My high hopes for some or at least one new bold article getting to the core of the matter were rather disappointed. Most research money is clearly wasted with the pseudo problem of temporarily shrinking populations in developed countries. I have glanced through some of the articles. The following opinion piece contains some good information nuggets.
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/371/1692/20150157
It seriously doubts the assumption of an automatism of a predetermined path leading to shrinking populations in the currently developing group of nations. One good argument being that the sheer number and volume of resources for going through all phases and steps of their meanwhile relatively wealthy predecessor countries might simply no longer be at disposal on earth. It is further on mentioned that the UN statisticians have meanwhile withdrawn their earlier claim that worldwide population levels would plateau before or latest in 2100. And further on the author lists several reasons why the prevailing fear from endlessly shrinking and thus theoretically even disappearing numbers of citizens in developed countries is silly.
Salome,
Stefan |
Corey
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Post Number: 1156
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 - 04:52 pm: |
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hello fellows: When I am stricken with hunger, I can simply go to the supermarket and purchase a frozen TV dinner. Future generations may not have this luxury. Food may be in short supply, and be more precious then gold. Unlike my people, because I possess this knowledge, today in 2016, I treat my food like gold, yet my people are so careless with their dinner, instead always on the hunt for the next techno toy, or perhaps, the next video game that can make them into a killing machine, or help them lose themselves into a fantasy RPG, and escape from the harsh reality of terrestrial life on the planet Earth. My cellphone is from 3 models ago, and I always try to be glad my belly is full, and I have a modest roof over my head, which is provided to me by my modest paycheck! However, the growing uncertainty of world events, specifically food, knaws at my consciousness, and demands me to make a difference, and I know, in due time, my people of Earth will be very hungry (and thirsty)!
My mother possesses a fine green thumb, and can do wonders growing natural foods out of her garden in the summer time, but failed to pass this gift on to me, so if calamity happens, I am at the mercy of world events, with the exception of my 2 year emergency food supply, which is a result of my urban education.  Maybe I should spend more time with my mother in the summer time, in her garden.
In my country, entities like the Department of Homeland Security, works with local officials, and partners with Universities to keep my countries' dinner safe, to protect this said dinner from the dangerous hands of international terrorists. These international terrorists are increasingly after world domination, and wish to demolish societies such as mine for good, these international terrorists need to be rendered powerless by a multinational peacekeeping troop, and they need to be banished to places of fulfillment of guidelines, for the rest of their natural lives, as soon as possible, before they can do any more destructive damage to the good people of Earth.
Hopefully in the future, what's left of world governments, can still see to it that their people are cared for, no matter how short of a supply food becomes, no matter what obstacles are in the way to do so, rising temperatures, lower crop yields, rising seas, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc., and hopefully what is left of world governments can advocate for a complete cessation of births for the Earth, with a one year window open for child-bearing to eligible couples, every 7th year, or else the people of Earth will be rendered completely powerless at the hands of the casual law of cause and effect, and will suffer serious, and grave calamities for a very long time to come (for a reference at this: see practically any GOT chapter), however unlike my people, I possess the knowledge that these calamities will be learning experiences for my people, and make them into people of the future, who are better prepared to deal with these extreme calamities, the only question that remains, is how much death will my people have to suffer, before governments start to follow FIGU recommendations for world events, such as the dangerousness of world overpopulation?
<salome>
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Norm
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Post Number: 1674
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 11:18 am: |
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High Rise to the end of the world: a brief history of overpopulation panic
https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2016/apr/15/high-rise-to-the-end-of-the-world-a-brief-history-of-overpopulation-panic |
Norm
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Post Number: 1676
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 06:16 pm: |
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Good video's on Immigration & Population.
https://www.youtube.com/user/NumbersUSA/videos |
Norm
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Post Number: 1680
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2016 - 12:36 pm: |
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Egypt must overcome security, overpopulation challenges to achieve sustainable development: Hollande
http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2016/04/18/420418/ |
Norm
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Post Number: 1682
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2016 - 05:18 pm: |
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Giriraj Singh kicks up row over population control remark
http://www.financialexpress.com/article/india-news/giriraj-singh-kicks-up-row-over-population-control-remark/241016/ |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 337
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2016 - 10:03 pm: |
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“Oxygen levels in some oceans are beginning to fall and widespread evidence of the trend should be evident from 2030 onwards…”
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/emerging-threat-from-climate-change-ocean-oxygen-levels-are-starting-to-drop-20160427-gogqd3.html#ixzz47AzwmKBp
But though some scientists discuss the possibility of an oxygen collapse for sea animals due to climate change they seem not concerned about oxygen levels for the “overpopulating” human species.
No-one connects the data from various stats which show an increased no. of people but a stagnant or even dwindling amount of oxygen - e.g.
http://one-simple-idea.com/Environment1.htm *)
http://www.conserve-energy-future.com/various-deforestation-facts.php
(E.g. 50 % of rainforests have already been cleared - in 100 years there may be no more rainforests…)
Ptaah told Billy that in Akart “their advice was disregarded and not followed” – leading to an oxygen collapse and an atmosphere collapse – the Ps were only able to save 116 million Akart people,.
Earth stats would support that a similar fate may “have to happen” to Earth humans, too *)
Ptaah (in CR 476) confirms this as well:
“..Earth humans, so I am able to say, are pathologically autocratic and incorrigible, which is why they must first suffer enormous damage, before they see reason and open up their ears and senses to warnings.
82. And if they do not do this, then destruction will one day be their fate.
83. Slowly however systematically Earth humans destroy anything and everything in life, in nature and in the climate on Earth, consequently already the continuous process of all around destruction in every respect ;now only is to be halted with very drastic measures…”
As a human I ask what can be done to prevent human suffering?
The Plejaren Mission may have been designed to slowly change human thinking.
But given the urgent need for change and the looming danger/massive catastrophes if this change does not soon eventuate the question arises what can be done to accelerate the "awakening" of humanity?
Even Billy mentions that it would take too long for Earth humans to “live out and overcome” the gene manipulation.
Should we raise a petition to the High Council?
To grant an exemption and allow the Ps to give a “clear sign of their existence advising humanity to follow the Spirit teachings”.
We may plead that our desolate situation was "exacerbated" by "external forces" - esp.
-Genetics (Gene manipulation by Sirians / Genes of Arus' “elitist” scientists) and
-Religious delusion
Our universe is based on cause and effect …
Humans were certainly were mistreated by power greedy aliens.
As o/s forces contributed heavily to our human delusion, should o/s forces not heavily contribute to our salvation?
Salome,
Bill
**) Billy in CR 476:
Billy: " …. Such an occurrence, according to your earlier explanation, on July 17, 1975 during my great journey, in fact already is to have threatened an approximately Earth sized planet named Akart through overpopulation stupidity, because in 1975 already 23 billion human beings lived there." |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 338
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2016 - 06:34 am: |
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Kindly add this missing part to post 337
Thank you, Bill
*) (The statistical diagrams will enlarge when you click on them ...)
As a responsible parent and citizen with a view to our children and grandchildren and those of our fellow humans I may repeat what we already mentioned in a previous mail:
The statistic mentioned above is not based on the more accurate and higher global population nos. of the Plejaren.
Still – even if we accept the nos in this statistic - then our planet would “house and feed” in 2036 some 12 billion people and increase by 1 billion 2.5 years later.
Even if the population increase after 2036 would not accelerate even further (as the diagram would suggest) our planet would have by the year 2100:
12 + 64/2.5 = 12 + 25.6 = 37.6 billion people.
Well, according to Billy Akart was a planet of similar size to Earth **) and according to Ptaah Akart had an oxygen collapse when its population reached 34 billion…
I think Ptaah is right in that humanity would not desire to freely give up its delusions / consumption rushes.
In other words it is much more likely that it will only learn after great suffering.
This would mean that chaos before a new order cannot be prevented.
Why not give humanity a chance (see suggestion above) to realize its delusion?
Even though this realization may incur a religious chaos - the human mind could act with more conviction.
Thus this "awakening" may set the human mind straight more effectively and with less suffering. |
Hugo
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Post Number: 186
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2016 - 03:32 pm: |
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Tat_tvam_asi,
On Earth we have religions and money/economics pushing population growth. The P's said in all the world's they know of, only Earth has money and religions. That is why I don't know why people from Akart were that stupid in not seeing what overpopulation was doing to their planet. |
Norm
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Post Number: 1684
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2016 - 03:33 pm: |
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"Should we raise a petition to the High Council?
To grant an exemption and allow the Ps to give a “clear sign of their existence advising humanity to follow the Spirit teachings”.
We may plead that our desolate situation was "exacerbated" by "external forces" - esp.
-Genetics (Gene manipulation by Sirians / Genes of Arus' “elitist” scientists) and
-Religious delusion
Our universe is based on cause and effect …
Humans were certainly were mistreated by power greedy aliens.
As o/s forces contributed heavily to our human delusion, should o/s forces not heavily contribute to our salvation?"
Salome,
Bill
I agree Bill. They seem to disrupt societies then let them suffer it out. Maybe they need to take a more active roll. But they always have a reason not to. I've never read an explanation that made my primitive mind totally agree with their reasoning. But when the Earths life is in balance then they will intervene. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 339
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2016 - 10:51 pm: |
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Add-on-2:
"Pacific may suffocate in 15 years"
http://www.inquisitr.com/3045950/disturbing-new-study-shows-the-pacific-ocean-may-suffocate-in-just-15-years/ |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 704
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2016 - 01:53 pm: |
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Actually if the Plejaren were to fly in and announce themselves, people would give up all their self responsibity and expect the Plejaren to solve all their problems. It's happened before and it will happen again and again and again. Shake off what you perceive to be your issues by studying the spiritual teaching. Realize that no one is going to save you.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 341
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 05:36 am: |
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Hi JSN,
Are the “parents” of all life forms not naturally concerned about their offspring?
Should we humans not be concerned about our fellow humans and the many other life forms on our planet?
What I wrote was not that humanity is “saved” by the Plejaren.
We certainly have to do that ourselves.
But time is of the essence.
Humanity needs a wake-up call, should question what they have led to believe in.
It does not seem that the main players globally would give up their thinking and the populace would change their religious inclinations in great numbers.
I am grateful for what the Ptaah, Quetzal and Semjase have done.
But I am as well a realist.
Given that
a) we should not proselytize the Spirit teachings and
b) the truth that Ptaah mentions:
“Earth humans … are pathologically autocratic and incorrigible...”
it seems most likely that that Billy’s teachings are far from soon becoming the guidelines of western leaders – at least not soon enough to prevent major catastrophes.
As mentioned before in relation to the Sirians:
I think the cause and effect I mentioned would work not only for the benefit of Earth humanity.
Salome,
Bill |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 131
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 08:07 am: |
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Justsayno-(post 704)-I totally agree.
MsMichelle
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Learnmore12
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Post Number: 49
Registered: 05-2014
| | Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 09:54 am: |
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There is an interesting article that is on the web which says how many people the Earth can hold. Take a look at it. Thanks.
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/many-people-earth-actually-hold-161120761.html |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 302
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 04:54 pm: |
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Learnmore12,
Interesting article. According to Billy and the Plejaren, Yoni Heisler's number of humans that can live on Earth is off by 9,450,000,000 (9.45 billion) without damaging Earths infrastructure.
That is, if my math is correct between English and German?
Kenneth |
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