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Scott
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Post Number: 2618
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

New Topic,

FIGU-Sonder-Bulletin Nr. 99, Mai 2016 17

Discussion between Ptaah and Billy regarding the change in Obama and why this occurred.....and comments pertaining to Chancellor Merkel..
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Hugo
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Scott!

Always good to see new threads opening for new discussions!
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Scott
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your Welcome


Salome
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Joe
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 02:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For those of you who would like to read a "not so perfect" but fairly understandable Google translation of the PDF file then try the following:

1. Download the PDF FIGU-Sonder-Bulletin Nr. 99 from here: http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/sonder-bulletin/2016/nr-99

2. Copy-and-Paste the following link: https://translate.google.com/?tr=f&hl=en

3. Select the PDF file to be translated by clicking on the "Browse..." button.

4. Once you have selected the PDF file to be translated then click on the "Translate" button and wait a bit for the PDF file itself to get translated.
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Ilovebilly
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 05:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great thanks
If folks r not in a hurry
The google translator works ok if you don't do too many words
It's slower but is a good way to learn German while u translate

Try about 5 words or a few more and get a feel for it, depends on complexity of the sentence so sometimes u can do more or need to do less words, after a while u get fast and know all the small words and only need totranslate the big words

A few words will normally give a good result

You are reading the German too, 3 birds with one stone
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Norm
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd rather read an accurate version.
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Joe
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So Barack Obama was threatened? That is sad. I mean what does that tell us? It tells us that a true democracy doesn't really exist because it is actually not always the president who is calling the shots.

I, and also many others here would appreciate it if someone could please translate the several sentences in contact report 646 where Billy and Ptaah talk about Barack Obama. Thank you.
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Schantz
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm you have no problem posting links to ridiculous videos and admit that you follow Alex Jones because his information contains some truths but you won't read special bulletins from FIGU because it's not accurately translated to your liking?

Interesting.
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Stefan_z2
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Registered: 12-2014
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - 03:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi,

After reading the extracts from contact report 646, and after a few weeks ago learning in Block 31 that Billy had in 2015 once more to undergo an assassination attempt, I am seriously concerned about his safety. Our beloved old man is still recovering from heart surgery, that had to happen as emergency procedure.

Now putting those notes also out there on the Internet in plain English might not be a good idea. Really don’t know. What do you think?

Salome,
Stefan
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - 06:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I fully agree, Stefan.

Especially in our world of constant terrorist attacks.

Salome,

Bill
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Joe
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - 07:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stefan,

You are a little hesitant to post a translation of contact report 646. Okay, fair enough. Hopefully Corey or someone else might post a translation. But could you at least post a translation of this Block 31 that you have mentioned about Billy having had another assassination attempt on his life?
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Scott
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a partial translation of Contact 646 already. I asked the person whom translated it if they would mind posting it on this forum, but nothing has appeared yet. I sent one of the members of the Australian Landesgruppe a copy of the translation for review. I don't know if it will be posted on the Australian Website, but if it is posted somewhere I will let everyone know. Concerning Billys safety, yes that is important, but I don't think the contact info would be presented to the public if there were great dangers inherent in its publication.

(Message edited by Scott on June 14, 2016)
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Scott
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It can be said that Obama succeeded in his "Mission", but his efforts were thwarted due to pressures from subversive groups working behind the scenes to stem any real successes. It was also stated that if he had known in advance that his efforts would be in vain, he would not have accepted the nomination for president of the U.S.
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Davidmg
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 05:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't quite remember if it was posted here or on Micheal Horns blog site, but there was an ex-CIA NSA guy doing talks at various halls and buildings informing people of those secret service wrong doings. There in one of the videos he did talk about threats to Obama and they would do the same to him as Kennedy if he did not co-operate.

Davidmg
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Joe
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott,

You said "It was also stated that if he had known in advance that his efforts would be in vain, he would not have accepted the nomination for president of the U.S."

Was this mentioned in a contact report and if so do you remember which one?

Davidmg,

If you happen to come across that video of the ex-CIA NSA guy that you mentioned then please, if you can, post it here. It's possible I might have actually already seen it, but I wouldn't mind seeing it again. Thank you.
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Scott
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe, here is a brief un-approved excerpt from contact 646:

Ptaah:
"Had Obama prior to his efforts for the US- presidency known – this I have investigated very thoroughly – that he will be manipulated by his councellors, the military mighty ones and secret services as well as all around him, who decide above his authority matters of the military and politic issues of the State, than he would have never put the effort to become the President."

(Message edited by Scott on June 15, 2016)
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Norm
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Every President since this Global Order was formed has been telling Presidents what to do. The question is what has Obama done that's good? Or what has he done that's bad? How do we even know what he's actually doing & what Their actually doing. Right now bringing un-vetted Muslims into the USA like Europe is a no brainer. The Order wants that. They want a problem reaction solution. End goal a Police State for everyone. Europeans aren't even allowed to voice their concerns when it come to the Muslim migration. Billy is right the EU is a dictatorship & their free speech is disappearing. Until Billy starts naming names and exposes this Secret Group and their goals we will be spinning in circles. Unless someone here has figured it out please enlighten me. I dropped the whole conspiracy thing years ago because Billy was downplaying it. But recently its making more & more sense than the whats being reported in the Mainstream Media.

No matter whose in office the Global Order is pulling the strings.
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Norm
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Schantz, I read it ok. Even before your post! I'd prefer an accurate version because of past translations excuse me!
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Joe
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott,

So this was actually mentioned in contact report 646? I might have overlooked it. Sorry about that and thanks for the reply.
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Hawaiian
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is an unofficial English translation of Contact 646 on Facebook under Waid Sainvil's account. I tried to copy/paste it, but cannot for some reason.

Also, Stefan_z2, could you paste a summary on the latest assassination attempt on BEAM on the Aggressive Aging gene section for a response that many will find interesting?
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some thoughts related to the CRs:

Different to many other CRs Ptaah and Billy refer to present situations/politicians.
Why would they discuss these “highly political” topics?
Perhaps they know more than they let on.
They would know that the financial situation in all major economies is chaotic*)
That Western sanctions may cause a stir. **)

Maybe our world truly is at a very dangerous conjunction.
If ETs are surveying our time they may have a good reason to do so.
There is a growing feeling of insecurity – worldwide.
A "gut feeling" that the general lack of respect of cause and effect will come back with a vengeance:
That purported successes are unsustainable excesses, that the debt of all major economies is spiralling into nowhere *)
A short-lived paradox, an “unreal” world.
Of economic “growth” funded with “printed” money.
Of “terrorism attacks” cum “get rich quick via arms’ sales”.
A world of politicians shying away from discussing major issues like overpopulation.
In short - a polarized world of illogic, hypocrisy and contradictions building up to a very violent climax.

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One word re. Billy …
He has exposed the wrongs of authority in many of his incarnations.
As prophet among the Jewish people, in Greece (Socrates), in Israel (Jmmanuel) and in our time.
During these lifetimes his teachings may have aroused suspicions.
But in retrospect they proved right.

If we review the chain of Billy’s latest incarnations -
They were German (a few), then Russian, then Swiss.
It is interesting to see that he tried (as Rasputin) to advise the Russian Czar not to go to war with Germany (the country of R’s previous incarnation).
In the same way as he now tries that the West will find a peaceful accord with Russia (the country of Billy’s previous incarnation).
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One word re. the leaders that Billy and Ptaah discuss -
We should recognize that what happened to them - “it could just happen to us, too”.
Especially if we accept Ptaah’s argument that “not acting in accordance with those who truly rule the country would have killed the President long ago” …
(Pres. Eisenhower farewell address in 1961 ***) comes to mind - that the military- industrial complex wields the real power)
I would presume that the Russian and Chinese leaders know quite well that western leaders do not wield the same power like them (and thus they are inclined to respond more diplomatically).
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One should as well see how past causes have formed the effects we witness.
Yes, we Earthlings live in a confused world.
Yes, our “high strung” human excesses have to be stopped.
But seeing all the causes made in time and space I see as well that humanity was manipulated.
By the Sirians (genes) and the Gize Intel(religions).
I say this without any hate – simply to express that our life spans are simply too short for true wisdom to manifest.

Perhaps even our “drive to overpopulate” is – in part - a natural human response to make up for the loss in quality - short life spans do lack the time to nurture wisdom:
Engels would certainly argue that a change of quantitiy will bring about a change of quality.
More than 8 billion “little bits of wisdom” may indeed lead to many more discoveries.
But 8 billion short life spans do lead as well to a chaotic world lacking order.

This may well be our world today.

But our world tomorrow will be how we think of it now.
If our thoughts “live” with “all”, with the deep down knowledge of all being connected in time and space.
Then our world will develop into a world where all humans assist each other..


Salome,

Bill


*)
E.g. China:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-24/chinese-banks-1.7-trillion-debt-time-bomb/7439844

**)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-baltics-troops-russia-1.3635139
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nato-putin-military-buildup-1.3581371


***)
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ike.htm
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Schantz
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm,

The Global Order or the Dark Order is a group of several organizations and people, not just one named group.

Such as European Union, known as the EU, the Pentagon, the CIA, certain major corporations, certain individuals behind the scenes and also public individuals, and the list continues.

They want to expand their economic greedy tentacles over the planet while enriching themselves and their interests and businesses.
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Norm
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Frm BBC Journalist: Why Bilderberg Won't Allow BREXIT
http://youtu.be/2S7ZdJ3_Pjs

Not Alex Jones.

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