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    Ey301 New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2016 |
I’m a newbie (a few min) & still reading “The Goblet..,” (thrilling- a new paradigm – “Codes” seem to be activating already..I actually woke up w/ New Awareness) [had a ‘tasered-like’ DNA activation a few months ago- so it was explained anyway – iDon'tKnow]) … This topic appears closest to subject I was hoping to see; The Dark Star (probably not 1 your thinking of).. There’s a man in USA who has been studying this since ’11 (good reason)… He is only one left of original team due to ‘? Mysterious ? deaths, i.e., 30yr-old-heat-attacks … anyway his Dark Star is: “ can’t be seen because it is something between Dwarf Star & a Neutron Star, micro-lensing effect- an Event Horizon.” thingy – He is almost Always ‘ Right On ‘ w/earthquake predictions..ie; these next few days will be very few, but end of mth. different story ! …. Anyway; here are a couple places to start – if interested https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNrZdBjWjfssfMx5dETze_g ..Terral BlackStar ... freedomslips.com : “Black Star Update Thursday's” | ||
Andrew_hua Member Post Number: 63 Registered: 12-2013 |
Hi Corey Although an appropriate refresher or review (for those new to this) of what has been said in the past, you have indeed only restated what has already been stated rather than explaining your own understanding of it. If humans are simply higher evolved creatures than primates, then what is stopping them from evolving to a near level of sophistication? What do you suppose then will be the extent of the primates' evolution? | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 1046 Registered: 12-2009 |
Hi Andrew, Well, primates do not have a conscious-consciousness, so they are unable to evolve to the heights that a human-consciousness can, and they will never know what it means to evolve out of the choices of free-will, such as negative, or positive, or negative/positive equalised, as they are driven by pure instinct. Animals also lack the coarse material evolutive factors, such as the sciences, although, animals have their place in the circle of life, humans and animals both have their different "jobs" to do, within the creational framework, but the human's tasks are much greater, such as protecting all life-forms on your planet (as well as the planet itself), and with the higher level of evolution given to us by natural selection, comes great responsibility, as being human means your evolution can be very low (like it is on Earth- the Plejaren were also as low as we presently are millenia ago), or as high as the current Plejaren, depending on your many factors such as your overall societal state, and your home planet's evolution, and humans' on any given planet will vary greatly in individual evolution levels, so it is important, once you are introduced to the spiritual teaching, to continue to strive for your own personal consciousness-based evolution, and to try and fulfill the laws and recommendations of Creation, unless you want calamity to claim you. Animals have the advantage that they are usually in line with Creational laws and recommendations, and we humans' have to really strive for this facet of creational thinking, and adapt our behaviours, especially here on planet Earth, where everything, including our laws, and legislation, are so backwards, and uncreational. Once a human has adapted to creational thinking, and behaviour, we will go further then that of an animal, such as: it is my understanding that animal spirit-forms do not achieve the high-council level, nor the 7 pure spirit-form levels, and sub-levels, like a human's spirit-form will one day know the pleasure of being. Also in the animal world, according to AA, if you are too positive, or too negative, you are usually eliminated by nature, through one form of death, or another. I really do not know what happens to animal spirit-forms, once all the human spirit-forms leave a planet, or the human spirit-forms from a particular planet have all shifted to the high council level. Float through space, to the next planet, and reincarnate as similar animals once again?!? I really do not know, and do not want to lead any one astray with my unknowledge, and to be honest, I never think about this in great detail in my daily life, so I suppose it's fair to say it doesn't matter to me, one way, or the other, what happens to animal spirit-forms in the long run, I am glad I am a human-being, glad that I have a conscious-consciousness, and glad one day, in the far future, my spirit-form will merge with the SEIN Absolutum after I have evolved through the high-council stage, and all 7 pure spirit-levels. However, modeled after FIGU, I see it as one of my personal tasks, to stand up against both cruelty to animals, as well as stand up against keeping pets in the home living quarters. Unfortunately, most people forget, especially in the animal slaughtering business, that animals have a Psyche, and register pain, see "Goblet" 4:153: "Truly, you shall not cut off the ears of animals (not torment any animals) and not deface or destroy anything that is given by the wellspring of all wisdom (Creation) in the firmaments (universe) and on earths (worlds/planets) and anyone who does so nonetheless stands in friendship with evil and wreaks evident loss all around to what has been given by the wellspring of all wisdom (Creation) to all life for joy and for benefit (prosperity) and for the preservation of existence. Wahrlich, ihr sollt nicht dem Vieh die Ohren abschneiden (keine Tiere quälen) und nichts verun stalten oder zerstören, was durch die Quelle aller Weisheit (Schöpfung) in den Himmeln (Universum) und auf Erden (Welten/Planeten) gegeben ist, wer aber trotzdem solches tut, steht in Freundschaft mit dem Bösen und schafft rundum offenkundigen Verlust an all dem, was die Quelle aller Weisheit (Schöpfung) allem Leben zur Freude und zum Nutzen (Erfolg) und zum Erhalt des Daseins gegeben hat." -I personally think the extent of primate evolution will always be that of an animal, and go no further then what we see today, but to really be sure, I would need to study millions of years of evolution of primates, when I invent my time machine, I will get back to you...  mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche. consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124 ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Paullowrance New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 09-2015 |
Who said that? I strongly believe apes and gorillas have human like consciousness. There's a famous gorilla who talks through sign language. Amazing. Over the years she's expressed volumes of emotions and thoughts. It's you're right to disagree with me. So we simply disagree. Theoretical physics. | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 398 Registered: 04-2011 |
G,day Corey I read in c notes a species/animals consciousness is just stored in the storage banks when a species becomes wiped out/ extinct or a planet is kaput They don't do as we do and float off to a planet suitable for our evolution It's so cool we can just float off when a planet is kaput I do think some ape species have a conscious consciousness as they devolved and DNA was tinkered with so like the yeti are human Salome Peter Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Getknowledge Member Post Number: 167 Registered: 04-2008 |
Interestingly, it's also mentioned, I forget where though, that certain plant life have evolved beyond their planetary system. Tien | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 399 Registered: 04-2011 |
G'day Andrew My thoughts from figu material Animals of all kinds evolve to be human at different stages of a planets evolution and depending on planets environment Before primates dinosaurs evolved and are out in deep space Even plants eventually evolve conscious consciousness and leave,it's in stages I think plants r last After we go another species may evolve to conscious consciousness or another primate could A list of known human/conscious consciousness beings on other planets is on figu site somewhere A description of how The Creation bestows (for lack of a better word) conscious consciousness on a species I have read but hard to put into words I will find it Salome Ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 960 Registered: 05-2008 |
http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/2015/07/readers-question-on-humans-and-apes.html Reader's Question: When it is said that the human is not descended from the ape, then how was it really? http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 1048 Registered: 12-2009 |
Paullowrance: that sounds like a cool video to watch. Getknowledge is right, there are plant humanoids mentioned in the notes, there was a whole list of various species. ILB: thanks for the info, on what happens to animals' spirit-forms when a planet goes kaput. I wonder if they are stored in the storage banks until the great slumber time. I could be wrong, that primates are possessing a instinct-consciousness, and space is so vast, there could be primates, somewhere out there, that have evolved to humanoid levels, answering these questions go beyond my abilities to answer. mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche. consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124 ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 485 Registered: 12-2011 |
Ey 301 Really do you believe in this rubbish. joe | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 401 Registered: 04-2011 |
G'day Corry Storage banks for a planet are stored in galaxy and higher level and kept for use after great slumber so we can have fine matter only universe Salome Ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 402 Registered: 04-2011 |
G'day Corry All animals evolve to be human countless times throughout the universe Salome Ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 403 Registered: 04-2011 |
Re: All animals evolve to be human countless times throughout the universe E.g countless species of primate, fish or bird etc... Will evolve conscious conciousness on different planets Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 254 Registered: 04-2013 |
Ilovebilly, "All animals evolve to be human countless times throughout the universe"? That is not my understanding; can you reference this with a link to BEAMS material? Kenneth | ||
Getknowledge Member Post Number: 169 Registered: 04-2008 |
According to Richard Hoagland, the face on Mars is actually half human and half lion. Hints at possible human/feline hybrid. Thunder Cats confirmed. The space faring certain plant-life mentioned, from where I read, I don't recall or missed were humanoid or Floroids, about which Corey is right on the other hand. My point is, there're also space dwelling living organisms, some have even been photographed. Life finds a way. We live in a Universe where elves, ferries and gnomes exist, and dwarfs traveling in shape shifting energy ships, and one shape-shifter living on earth which I believed is pure fantasy. Anything is possible at this point. Contact Report 228 Quetzal: 106. Known to us, in this galaxy, are only 2,630,000 highly developed human civilizations, which actually belong together, whereby, from other galaxies known to us, a further 1,141,000,000 can be factored in. 107. We know of 1,040,000 civilizations which are developed to an essentially low level in this galaxy which you call the Milky Way. 108. Our scientists estimate that in the entire universe about 6,000,000,000,000 to 7,000,000,000,000 essentially human civilizations, of higher and lower form, would have to exist in your material space-time configuration. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Humanoid_lifeforms_in_the_known_universe Back to topic: According to the GoT, the role of humans are care takers and helpers of nature, and conscious implementer of the creational laws and recommendations. Tien | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1151 Registered: 07-2009 |
ILB, Please link to the specific info from Meier confirming what you claim. | ||
Andrew_hua Member Post Number: 64 Registered: 12-2013 |
It seems that the human spirit-form and its associated consciousness-based evolution is what determines its capability for higher levels of evolution. The original query that I brought forward was in an attempt to clarify the distinction between humans and animals on a gross, material, physical level. Since our bodies are based upon an "animal" prototype, it must be our consciousness-based evolution that enables our level of evolution - but what is the mechanism? I recall reading that the split between human spirit-form and animal spirit-form occurs very early in the development of life on a planet, which determines the eventual path of these life forms, but there are still unanswered questions regarding how consciousness-based evolution contributes to human evolution. I guess this can really only be answered thoroughly by Meier himself. Really, this is unimportant for us Urda-lings at this stage; my mind just wanders greatly on some things sometimes... | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 404 Registered: 04-2011 |
Yes Michael I will look for the pages or does this post do? U have seen the list of known species right? And statistically the primate would not always evolve conscious consciousness, often primates can't and If primates do others will before and after, a planet evolution level affects this, Generally Dinosaurs develop earlier than primates was mentioned when Billy visited a planet with biggest Dino , So a young planet was chosen to see Dino 2 or 3 species was mentioned when Plej talked about earths naturally developed species ATM being from India and primate A large % of planets primates can't survive/evolve and others can A large % of planets are microscopic life or barren The list of species had species from very hot and acidic environments too! I think at the bottom of the ocean r plants waiting for us to leave eh eh :-) And The dinosaurs think primates r less evolved and could never evolve to be sentient, especially the Terran primates! :-) Robots r mentioned: if they have a spirit it's a certain spirit for robots and has conscious consciousness/evolves In questions to Billy he mentions it's a robot only spirit form I have been looking for a link to Andrews question and haven't had time yet Michael Andrew its kinda hard to word so I will find a link, I think it's in questions to Billy If anyone has links to mentioned conversation feel free to post here Salome Ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Watchdog Member Post Number: 95 Registered: 12-2014 |
Is this guy saying we evolved from plants ? David AKA Watchdog. USA | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 255 Registered: 04-2013 |
ILOVEBILLY, Wasn't the planet with the largest Dino Earth? Official Contact Report 221, Wednesday, December 30, 1987 Billy: Since we’re already talking about large trees, I would like to ask you a question about the dinosaurs again. Which ones were the largest and where did they live? Quetzal: The largest plant-eating dinosaurs lived in what is now Patagonia. These were the so-called long-neck dinosaurs, whose largest specimens reached up to 60 meters in length and exhibited a weight of around 135 tons. This was the largest land animal that ever existed on the Earth. Billy: And what about the time – when did these animals live, and were there any predatory dinosaurs that killed these magnificent animals? Have any skeletons, etc. of such giant beasts already been found by the earthly paleontologists? Quetzal: To my knowledge, still no such findings have been made by the earthly paleontologists. And as for the time when these giant animals lived, this must have been, to my knowledge, around 100 million years ago. The long-necked dinosaurs possessed tails that were about as long as their necks were to their heads. At the same time, there also lived giant predatory dinosaurs, which we call Titan predatory dinosaurs or Titans’ predatory dinosaurs, which had a size of up to 19 meters. | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 405 Registered: 04-2011 |
Kenneth Largest Dino known to Plej Not largest on Earth Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 1143 Registered: 12-2009 |
what CME's (coronial mass ejections) could do, and the potential consequences to the Earth: http://www.businessinsider.com/solar-storm-effects-electronics-energy-grid-2016-3 mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche. consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124 ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 328 Registered: 04-2013 |
Volcano eruption chokes Costa Rica towns in smoke and ash A volcano erupts near the capital of Costa Rica, choking surrounding communities with … http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36348904 Pacific Plate Earthquakes and Fault Lines: Costa Rica and California. http://www.decodedscience.org/pacific-plate-earthquakes-and-fault-lines/17951 Kenneth   |
