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Votan
Member
Post Number: 542
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2016 - 09:31 pm: | 
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Savio
I wonder if the Bafath was involved with these stupid scientists. Nikola Tesla was involved with the experiments and also the Philadelphia ones. He walked away saying that in the wrong hands they would be dangerous.
He also said that he can crack the earth and the universe in two. I firmly believe that he had the knowledge to do this.
joe
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 543
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2016 - 09:41 pm: |
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Bjwitelus
It is too late,the motion is set in place and nothing we can do now to stop it.
Called cause and effect in nature. Far too many people on this planet and still growing.
It has to stop and war will fix it.It is in our aggressive gene to do it also.
In the year 2039 I think Billy stated and my crystal also confirmed it.
joe
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Savio
Senior Member
Post Number: 798
Registered: 07-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2016 - 10:17 pm: |
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Hi Joe
According to Billy, Nikola Tesla was not as great as commonly thought to be, and Philadelphia Experiment is just a legend.
Salome
Savio
http://billybooks.org
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 544
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 02:15 am: |
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Savio
Strange , so all the books written about Tesla are fiction , I do not think so.
Read all the books and you might change your mind.
Sorry but Billy does not know everything or not allowed to tell.
joe
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Savio
Senior Member
Post Number: 799
Registered: 07-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 04:01 am: |
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Hi Joe
We need books in acquiring information, and we need research and proofs in turning the information into knowledge.
Salome
Savio
http://billybooks.org
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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1196
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 05:46 am: |
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It's a good idea to not believe anything...especially firmly. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1197
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 05:56 am: |
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What nonsense, "not allowed to tell". Meier simply states his opinion and when he does so it's based on what he knows, not guesses, etc.
It doesn't mean he must be right but he certainly isn't giving partial or censored information; he answers what is asked. |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 383
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 09:22 am: |
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Votan,
Actually, Savio is correct, Billy did in fact say that, but the information appears to have come from the Plejaren to Billy? This was copied to my documents file, without the web link unfortunately.
"Question:
What is the opinion of the Plejarens about Nikola Tesla and his inventions? Was he on the right way?
Should his inventions be developed further as a source of truly clean and free energy ?
Salome,
ANSWER:
He was a "normal" scientist. He didn't have all the extraordinary capabilities that were imputed to him.
All inventions should be developed towards good goals, because in this way progress is guaranteed.
If the information of "truly clean and free energy" is true, then any improvement and further development is important."
Kenneth |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 545
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 06:20 am: |
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Michael_horn
Meier is after all human and he does not know everything.
Have you read any info on Tesla.He was a genius regardless of what people think.
joe
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Hunter
Member
Post Number: 425
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 12:23 pm: |
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Michael,
You said earlier
"I don't think it's hyperbolic or unfair to say that Clinton's the most corrupt, deceitful, power-hungry, criminal psychopath to run for the presidency (maybe somebody else comes close?)."
Yes, this is a very disturbing truth. And it appears that "the Dixie mafia" or whoever has been the cause of the strange deaths benefiting the Clintons over the years has killed DNC Staffer Seth Rich, as Assange indicated he was the source of the email leaks.
"In my opinion, any rationalization for voting for such a person for anything than to convict in a trial is untenable. How did our world ever develop to a point where we consider this psychopath over that one...instead of simply saying no to either, and possibly finding another person to vote for, or sitting out the farce"
I agree. But I've been very disappointed with the Plejarens and Billy on this because they never seem to talk about third parties or third party candidates, of which there have been several. Nor do they ever talk about lesser candidates in the primary races. They only seem to comment once it's down to primarily two choices. I wish they would name the best person for the position from all potential candidates, rather than just between two. I don't understand their reasoning on this.
As far Meier "not allowed to tell" I thought he has stated that the Plejaren have told him some things but to keep them to himself, at least for a specified period of time?
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Michael_k
Member
Post Number: 20
Registered: 02-2016
| | Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 01:23 pm: |
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"not allowed to tell"
Many issues which Billy should speak about it defers, so to speak, when the time ripe is.
As example here, and many of this kind appears all through the CRs.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_585 |
Hendrikus1970
Member
Post Number: 61
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 11:22 pm: |
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Hunter,exept "" Assange indicated he was the source of the email leaks "" I agree with you.
Never did Assange indicated that because of source protection.
I also asked before why Billy never talks about the shadow government that controls our leaders and media in the west.
Kazarian Psychopaths ( fake jews) that rule and brainwash the peoples.
As long as this group exist then its useless to even talk about who is the best candidate !
I remember reading in 1 CR that Billy told Semjase that he did not want to talk about this group anymore because he want to complete his mission.
Now we see that this group is getting us ready for a nuclear war with Russia and China. How are we the people suppose to change and inform people if we dont even know for 1000% sure who is pulling this strings ?
As far as i can see The Plejaren made and make wrong decisions also.And for a part are to blame for the mess we are in. |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 384
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2016 - 12:48 am: |
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Hunter,
Your frustration is truly understood. What is very critical, is that Earth-humans MUST make their own decisions when it affects future events! When you said, "I wish they would name the best person for the position from all potential candidates".
Many that do not understand or know of the teaching of spirit, the teaching of life, the teaching of truth; go to church to be told what to do and in some cases who to vote for.
We are now far beyond that. Us folks on the forum obviously know this. In the Contact Report 585, the frustration and pain can also be felt by Ptaah and Billy.
Kenneth |
Historeed
Member
Post Number: 71
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2016 - 05:41 am: |
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Votan,
I think the point of Billy's statement about Tesla is that he was just a scientist, which doesn't mean that Tesla wasn't smart...it simply means that all the internet conspiracy theories about him are probably not correct.
Matthew Reed
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Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 147
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - 04:50 pm: |
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I agree we want to be handed all the information about what we should choose whether it's for president ; where to live; what to eat. We do not want to make our own decisions and we expect some higher authority or some God figure to tell us what to do. We are adults and it's about time we understand that we are responsible for our own lives and BEAM
or whoever may come along cannot make our decisions.
MsMichelle
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Hendrikus1970
Member
Post Number: 63
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - 10:45 pm: |
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Msmichelle,
you sound like M.Horn . The ancesters of the Plejaren where the creators of religions and the Plejaren are building a new religion as we speak.
Do you know how many people and especialy youngsters follow the Galactic Federation of Light? Much much more then BEAM followers.
The reason for this is that they spent money and use great marketing to discredit BEAM ! And because of this secret i only talk with billy rule they are making it easy to falsify the story again ,like they did with al prophets.
And please dont come to me with saying ,that humanity is not ready to have some real visible proof or evidence and that only Billy can handle it.
I can tell you a few things on how the Plejaren and Billy can remove any doubt people have on this case ,but then we get this
""We are adults and it's about time we understand that we are responsible for our own lives ""
Whatever is in this book is true !
The west have a secret government and this group has to be stopped . We can call on all nations to join forces and stop ISIS but in the meantime this group wont allow that to happen and on top are getting us ready to fight Russia and China in a nuclear war.
I also hold the Plejaren responsible for the mess we are in,and not only humans elites |
Stardustwilly
Member
Post Number: 63
Registered: 01-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 - 04:53 am: |
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Even with out the Ps messing things up in the past, I'm sure we or collectively us, would have found a million ways to screw every thing up just by ourselves. the problems started out millions of years ago on another planets, and haven't stopped sense then. |
Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 148
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 - 09:13 am: |
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Hendrikus1970... truly I understand your frustrations completely however when you sit back and focus on your particular life, it doesn't matter what others do or say, I am still responsible for getting up in the morning, preparing myself something to eat, going out into this world and work, make a living, provide for myself etc .... just like you I wished someone would come in and assist us with our problems but we are so massively overpopulated it doesn't matter what happens we have to reap what we have sown.... trust me if you focus on the space around you such as your backyard, your community you can make a difference
MsMichelle
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Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 149
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 - 09:22 am: |
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Also consider something as well Einstein,
Tesla and the others we so obsessively talk about have possibly reincarnated and are among us as we speak.... in other words we have to let go of expecting "someone" to save us, we have to focus on individually Saving ourselves. ....
MsMichelle
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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1198
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 - 11:06 am: |
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Hendrikus,
I hope I sound like him too.
For whatever reason you seem to put the blame/responsibility on outside forces for the way things are now. In the simplest terms, this is a highly ineffective way of dealing with life.
Perhaps familiarize yourself with some of the basics from the spiritual teaching, such as taking 100% complete self-responsibility for your life and everything in it. The poor people who involve themselves with make-believe, like the so-called Galactic Federation, etc., don't have a clue...but you do, or should by now.
The Plejaren are simply more advanced human beings who struggled through their own grief and problems. Let's be wise enough to learn from them but even wiser to correct our own mistakes.
See also: http://theyflyblog.com/2016/07/31/the-plejaren-revolution/ |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 548
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 - 03:07 pm: |
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Msmichelle
Who is talking about someone to save us.
We are responsible for all our deeds.At the same time the Bafath is responsible for most of the problems we are now facing.
Money and religion.
joe
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Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 150
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 - 09:55 pm: |
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The most common theme in these posts are we expect others to help us, to hold our hands, to tell us what to do ; we look to people to follow, to look up to and all I'm saying is at some point We have to take responsibility for your life and stop wishing for an Einstein, a Tesla or even a BEAM to tell you anything. If you focus on yourself individually and do everything you can to change the way you think ,the way you act ,you can make a difference and reverse the effects of religion or any other negative Force which has plagued us for millennia.
MsMichelle
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Hendrikus1970
Member
Post Number: 67
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2016 - 09:31 am: |
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Msmichelle
nobody need to hold our or my hands.
The west as it is is run by a powerfull group that are looking to rule the world and control all natural resources and to make new modern slaves of us.
They now are trying to provoke Russia and China and nuclear war is closer then ever.
I only asked WHO are those people.
Are they the Kazarian Psychopaths( fake jews)?
Bilderbergs and the royal houses ?
We all hear about the Rothchilds,Rockenfellers,Pope,Jesuits,Zionist atheist,warburgs and so fort,but i belief that the real names of ths group is unkown to us.
This psycopaths are exremly smart and are masters in planning and scheming.
If we want to survive then we have to take this people out !
I remember Billy Meier saying to Ptaah that we should kill that psycopath russian oligarch ( cant remember the name of this guy,lol)
He said "it would be an act of pure selfdefence)
Anyways, i think its to late now and yes IT'S GOING TO BE A WILD RIDE!
I can only hope that mankind can push the Red Meteor from its orbit in 2036, but that would be silly dreaming if Europe is run by religious idiots and the U.S and a big part of the world is destroyed by nuclear wars. |
