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Corey
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Post Number: 1179
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2016 - 03:25 pm: | 
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Jude,
It is hard to see now, but I suspect in future Earth times one of the most sought after family tree time travel investigation revelations will be the family tree of the black race Asasel (name spelling revealed in OM 31:561) who procreated Ledon. As equally important will be the investigations into the red race's family tree, which traces back to Sartael, who procreated Tetel (OM 31:562), to go along with Semjasa, who procreated Adam (OM 31:560)
Salome
Corey Müske
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 300
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2016 - 04:37 pm: |
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Justsayno,
All in all, this is also a good example how texts and information over thousands of years and translations become maybe an untruth or distorted from the facts. The transposition of only two letters could change the document meaning.
Kenneth |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 307
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2016 - 12:01 pm: |
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Does anyone know what TBC means as in 3TBC CE? I understand what CE means.
~380,000,000 CE The Sun is incorporated into processes which incur excessive activity. Causing all life on Earth to progressively become extinct (all CO2sinks into the ground).
~3TBC CE Historians reckoning the political and legalese arrangement disparities nationally and internationally from the beginning of the third millennium are able to develop sufficient cognition of the facts to shudder in horror at what they discover themselves looking at.[citation needed]
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~2TBC CE Money completely loses its value. Nevertheless, such transitions do not produce solutions to every monetary problem to the point where money will be totally eliminated as legal tender once and for all.
2100 CE Global Mean Sea Level (GMSL) will have risen from year 2000 levels by up to 160 centimetres [5'3"][17] The sea-level was raised by 20 centimetres between 1900 and 2000. Because of the slow inertia,[18]long response time for parts of the climate system, it has been estimated that Earth is now committed to a sea-level rise of approximately 2.3 metres (7.5 ft) for each degree Celsius of temperature rise within the next 2,000 years.[19] The global temperature had already risen by 1 degree up to the beginning of the 3rd millennium. It has been suggested that besides CO2 emissions reductions, a short term action to reduce sea level rise is to cut emissions of heat trapping gases such as methane and particulates such as soot.
Sincerely
Kenneth |
Indi
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Post Number: 785
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 01:24 am: |
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Hi Kenneth
It would have been a bit easier if you had provided a link to the source of your query as context often provides the answers. After some searching I found it was from the Event Timeline on the Future of Mankind website.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Event_Timeline
However, my thought is that it either means -
To be confirmed, or To be completed (once the exact info comes to hand)
So, ~3TBC CE would be referring to a figure in the 300 million range
(Message edited by indi on May 09, 2016)
Salome
Robyn
Denken Sie für sich selbst!
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 309
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 08:31 am: |
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Indi, and All
Ah, thank you very much, sorry about the missing link.
As I understand it; for instance; 2TBC CE means = Event happenings between the years 2000 & 2099 is the (2); TBC stands for To Be Confirmed; this is definitely in the 3rd millennium which is between January 1, 2001 and will end on December 31, 3000. The CE stands for Current Era, which means the same thing as AD. BC & AD is a religious reference to a person that did not exist. As we now know that the real person was Immanuel, not JC.
So, the reason that there are no hard dates is because this all depends on what Earthlings do, which has a direct correlation with "Cause and Effect", so the actual date can slip in either direction.
3TBC is in the 4th millennium, January 1, 3001 and will end on December 31, 4000; etc., etc.
Example:
Here we have the ~2TBC CE in between the dates of 2054 CE and 2075 CE. so, due to Cause and Effect, the listed events can move anywhere between these two dates.
≈2074 -
2075 CE Nokodemjon spirit forms next incarnation. When Billy Meier will "spread the mission again in this world as another personality"[24].
~2TBC CE Individuals any longer make personal provisions for they're old age through personal finances, because society, or rather the federal state, will pay for it.[25]
~2TBC CE
Academic Comparison\Cause and Effect: Full body flight safety suit comes onto the market and sells several million copies.
~2TBC CE Bottled air with a more suitable composition is available for purchase for personal consumption as "little life extenders".[26]
2054 CE
Academic Comparison\Cause and Effect: Wholly inaccurate academic studies generated at the beginning of the third millennium conclude many things including that education of women leads to low fertility rates even in Africa.[27]
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Event_Timeline
Salome
Kenneth |
Tethios
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2016
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2016 - 05:56 am: |
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Hello all,
Please let me know if the following question should be posted to another area on this forum site.
Many of us have seen or heard of animal-headed gods or supernatural beings such as Anubis in Egypt, Ganesha in India and Vincent in Beauty and the Beast (TV series from the 80s). Also, Billy did mention in his book 'Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums ... Kontakte mit den Plejadiern/Plejaren’ that so long ago, the most spiritually advaced people of Lyra created robot-human beings as well as animal-headed beings to use them as guards or soldiers (who would protect the Lyrans who had lost the very ability to fight back).
My question is, are those animal-headed beings on Earth somehow related to the animal-headed soldiers created by the Lyrans? Or, are they totally unrelated (ex. Anubis, Ganesha, St. Christpher and all other animal-headed beings descended from other alien people who visited this planet)?
Regards,
Tethios |
Corey
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Post Number: 1244
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2016 - 12:04 pm: |
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Tethios: can you provide a page number of where you read this in "Aus den Tiefen Weltenraums"?
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Salome/Corey Müske
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Tethios
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 08-2016
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2016 - 05:05 am: |
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Thank you for your reply, Corey!
To be honest with you, I do not know the exact page number on which Billy stated that particular event of the creation and deployment of the robot-humans and animal-headed beings. I read Japanese translated version of Kontakte, and all I can recall is that the section on animal-headed beings appeared in the latter half of the book, and it was very briefly mentioned (as a matter-of-factly, in just one or two sentences).
Although that section was very short, it struck me as a true, genuine fact and I felt Billy was simply recording what the Plejaren people had actually told him.
Corey, do you think it would be too rude or demanding if I asked Billy himself about what happened to the animal-headed beings created by the ancient Lyran people? Like, did they perish already, or somehow survived to establish their homeland somewhere in the universe?
Regards,
Tethios |
Corey
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Post Number: 1245
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| | Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2016 - 01:08 pm: |
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Tethios, you could always write a letter to Billy at the Center about the question, there would be nothing wrong with that.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Salome/Corey Müske
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 376
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2016 - 12:02 pm: |
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Tethios,
It's my understanding that these genetic mutations were either destroyed or allowed to die a natural death. I'll see if I can find the quote from the Contact Reports to quote the exact wordage.
Kenneth |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 377
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2016 - 10:01 am: |
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Tethios,
Here is part of the answer to your question; more to come . . . optimistically
Minotaur Half-human, half-bull
Kinnara Half-human, half-bird
A centaur Half-human, half-horse
Fauns half-human, half-goat
Contact Report 202
Billy:
. . . Sfath said that in a coming time, animals such as monkeys/apes will have human brain parts or entire brains implanted into them, and also genetic manipulations are supposed to be made, from which animal-people will then emerge, whom you call cherubim. These, then, are beings that have an actual animal body yet a functioning human consciousness and, therewith, also a creative human spirit form. The same applies to the seraphim, who have half human / half animal bodies and likewise a consciousness and, therewith, a creative human spirit form, such as in the old mythologies with the fauns, the Minotaur, and the centaurs, etc. The Bible even mentions the cherubim and the seraphim, but there, they are called angels, that is, messengers, who have been or who should be intermediaries between God and man, as the monotheistic religions lay this out. Now, the time of these genetic manipulations, as well as the transplants of brain and body parts, will soon stand at the door, according to Sfath’s information.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_202 |
Tethios
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 08-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2016 - 08:30 pm: |
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Corey,
Thanks so much for your advice and warming words!
Yes, I sure will write to Billy and ask if he or the Plejaren people have any information as to what became of the genetically engineered animal-headed beings of the ancient time. I should be prepared to hear sad news, as Kenneth kindly suggested, that those animal-headed soldiers or their descendants may not live any more.
Kenneth,
I am very much grateful for your response regarding Kontakte, and that truly helpful excerpt of Billy's another writing. THANK YOU!
The animal-headed soldiers of the ancient Lyran era may no longer exist, but the information you have kindly quoted suggests that we may be able to see them again sometime in the future. I can't wait to see the world once again filled with not just humans but also with the animal headed seraphim people, AI based species as well as plant and insect like intelligent beings - just like before. And once that happens, we should do everything possible to keep that inter-species bond and harmony intact. All types of intelligent beings living side by side, embracing each other. We can't afford to lose that world again.
Tethios |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 389
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2016 - 07:24 am: |
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- What Caused The Fall Of Atlantis? -
What may have caused Arus and his scientists to aggressively split from his fellow Atlanteans?
Are there similarities to the excesses of our present?
Unfortunately Plato’s account is incomplete and sadly the Ps did not leave many clues either…
Is there perhaps any further information from Billy's books ?
If we base our search on Greek mythology:
Was Arus perhaps out to avenge his grandfather as Zeus did (unwittingly) when he carried out the curse of Uranus against Chronos?
Did Arus revolt against his own fathers as Zeus did to Chronos?
(If we accept Dr. P. Schliemann’s account the last king of Atlantis may well have been K(Ch)ronos …) *)
As mentioned in a previous article Greek gods often had children with Earth women – similar to Semjase’s account of the time when Arus ‘ scientists had children with Earth women (“Evas” = child bearing ones)
So the Greek mythology may offer some glimpses.
Alternatively we may combine Edgar Cayce (EC)’s explanations with what we know from Billy’s CRs.
Some passages do show similarities:
E.g. according to EC Atlantean scientists knew how to prolong life – in one of his readings EC tells us that Atlanteans prolonged the life of the Egyptian priest that they had educated in Atlantis.
The Ps, too, tell us that Arus and his scientists were able to mutate genes to prolong their lives.
EC mentions that there were two factions in Atlantis - those following the true teachings (followers of the “Law of One”) and those without a standard of morality – seeking only material gratification of their desires (the “Sons of Belial”).
It would make sense to call those “without a standard of morality” barbaric (as in “Arus the Barbarian”).
According to EC a “great antagonism” developed between the two factions because a major dispute arose re. the treatment of “things” = ”those who were used as labouring people” and were “then in a physical experience in that state of evolution of developing their mental abilities for single/sep. activity”.**)
The Sons of Belial (? Arus & Co.?) argued (they were of a lesser) “cast or position” and only thought of using these lesser humanoids “for self aggrandizement without due consideration for the freedom of choice or decision”.
The followers of the Law Of One, however, wanted “to create better conditions for them …” basing their decision on “the universality of knowledge of all nature”.
Unfortunately those that “worshipped ease and pleasure in a material world” seemed to have “gradually” gained the upper hand:
“….then the Sons of Belial and the Sons of the Law of One made those great changes in the application of the Law of One to material benefits or for the special privileged” (Reading 3654-1 / Jan 1944)
“If we turn back to 10,600 BCE we find a civilisation disturbed by corruption from within…”
Connecting this with the Ps’ account this was caused by the infiltration of Arus’ followers into leading government positions (in Atlantis and Mu).
The time before the final destruction must have been a tumultuous time.
Many people leaving Atlantis because they knew what was coming.
The main destination of fleeing Atlanteans being Egypt (some went there directly – others via Portugal, Spain) but some went as well to the Yucatan Peninsula:
“… in (Atlantis) when there was knowledge that there soon was to be the destruction of that land and there were attempts to leave the land … among those who went to Egypt..”
“ … among those (people) who came from Atlantis to Egypt … commanded the fleets or ships …”
“… among those that sought refuge from turmoil arising in (Atlantis)..”
“…then with the leavings of the civilisation of Atlantis …(some) went westward entering … a portion of Yucatan … and there began …a civilisation … as that in (Atlantis) … “
But the Yucatan temples (in which they stored their records) were destroyed “at the period of physical change of the contours of the land.. (= during the destruction of Atlantis) which changed the contours of) Central America, Mexico to an outline similar (to) the present…”
At the same time the people of Mu / Oz left as well their home country - many settling in the Americas:
“..There had been the upheavals also from the land of Mu …”
The people arriving from Mu settled in … (what we today call) “California, Mexico and southern New Mexico…”, many people intermingled near what we call today Mexico City (Teotihuacan?).
The “Incal people from Oz” settled in (what we call today) Peru.
The priest of Sais explained to Solon the great advantages gained by safe-keeping historical records for future generations.
A similar method was used as well in relation to the Spirit teachings (TJ and the Plejaren CRs).
The fleeing Atlanteans that stored their discoveries may have had a similar idea:
EC predicts that in a future (= from 1933 on) time the hall of records in Egypt (close to the Sphinx) will be found and opened.
Then even “… those records that were put into the heart of the Atlantean land may … be found there – that have been kept for those that are of that group.
The records are One.”
Perhaps those that stored the records, did so, to be able to retrieve them in a future time (later reincarnation)?
Salome
Bill
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http://atlantipedia.ie/samples/schliemann-paul/
**)
The Atlanteans knew how to use genealogy to their advantage.
So perhaps these “things” were androids.
Perhaps they were less developed (=gene-manipulated) humans from other lands of our planet that the Atlanteans had colonized |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 390
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2016 - 09:03 am: |
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Add On To My Previous Mail
Re. the possibility that Arus rebelled against his father (Chronos)
The history of Plejaren leaders tells us of many incidents of rebellions by their children - even parenticides.
E.g. Arus I, the Barbarian, himself was murdered by his own son Arussem:
“Of the three sons of Arus I -- Arussem, Ptaah and Salam -- it was Arussem who murdered his father with the intention of continuing domination over the people …”
See http://theyfly.com/excerpt-and-yet-they-fly-attacks-giza-intelligences
So it may well be that Arus may have rebelled against his father.
NB
The term “karma” may not be applicable in the Spirit teachings.
But humans will always meet “their own deeds”.
As Arus lead a “government that used all available means to promote an insane hatred of Earth people” – so it was done him.
So the important matter to consider in life is –-
“With what spirit do you declare yourself?
That in conformity with the universal consciousness, the law of love?
Or that of hate which produces burdens on your fellow man?”
Edgar Cayce (R.2464-2) |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 381
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2016 - 09:25 pm: |
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Bill, Tat_tvam_asi,
Wow, talk about putting a historical gig-saw puzzle together; very well done; have not seen this accomplished before. Not only does this give a person something to think about, it also appears that history is about to repeat itself, unless we Earthlings get our act together and listen to what Billy and the Plejaren are telling us. It’s maybe a good thing that the surreptitious Atlantean records in Egypt were not revealed to the public. Just imagine what the covert black ops governments could do with that technology. Don’t need to sink another continent.
Kenneth |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 391
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2016 - 09:41 am: |
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- History Does Repeat -
Thank you Kenneth.
Yes, history repeats itself.
And when something repeats – it tells us that there should be a change in attitude.
(This is what I wanted to express with the remark “How do you declare yourself …”)
Fact is that the consciousness of our planet is becoming dangerously aggressive -
The belligerent rhetoric of many world leaders, their hate inflating like the money (QE) they print -
The political intrigues and bully games locally and internationally (South China Sea – Ukraine- Syria etc.) -
The many, many millions of “trigger happy” young children, their many, many aggressive thoughts while playing their “shoot to kill” (so called “survival”) computer games -
The brutality of religious terrorism - …
One certainly may think of historical “parallels” when one reads -
“ (Arus) used all available means to promote an insane hatred of Earth people, with the intent .. to … establish a supremacy of brutal force.
(Re. his followers: ) The product of their single-mindedness was a people of malicious and bestial nature. ... Each and every individual was trained in a military profession and taught how to use intrigues to stir up discord and play one man against the other. ..”
We know that Arus was a “.. scientist of extremely bestial mentality..” and we may not know much about the mentality of his sub leaders. But clearly they bowed to Arus command, did not revolt against him or object the enslavement of Earth people - neither by him nor his descendants “(who) …in their megalomania... let themselves be praised as God (in the sense of the Creator), demanded blood sacrifice and performed deadly retaliatory measures against the Earth people…”.
http://theyfly.com/excerpt-and-yet-they-fly-attacks-giza-intelligences
CR251 informs us that "Man's Real Original Sin" was the gene manipulation by the Sirian overlords. The overlords modified the genes of fellow humans so that lived short lives and were easily willing to kill when attacked.
http://www.figu.org/ch/ufologie/kontaktberichte/kontaktbericht-251
We know from Semjase that our present day Earth humans are the offspring of Arus’ scientists and the few remaining Earth women that survived the Atlantis Holocaust.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/13898.html#POST76630
Thus the original genetic information of present day Earth humans carried (and as we can witness – still carries) a lot of aggressive potential (DNA of Earth humans today = 50 % of Arus’ leaders + 50 % of (aggressivity-gene-) manipulated Earth human race).
The CRs tell us that Arus and those that followed him governed ruthlessly – instilling fear and bloodshed.
We may add that they did so to hinder Earth humans finding out their truly psychopathic thinking.
We mentioned that man’s self image is a mirror image of his highest ideal and we know that those writing the bible modified the truth to strengthen their grip on power (and, to a lesser degree, to please their god).
That they only copied what the Greeks, Romans and earlier god-worshipping cultures did before them. *)
Thus it is no accident that our world today, too, is full of double standards
(“What is permitted to a privileged person or group, is not permitted to everyone.")
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/13342.html#POST71677
“Like a reflection of Arus’ sinister mind, a large pitch black cloud, a layer of volcanic dust, encircled Earth for 2000 years after Atlantis’ destruction.
Like a reflection of Arus’ sinister mind, a background of human sin and guilt overshadows (the Genesis Chapter and the Modus Vivendi of most religions in) our world.
My “writings” – they try to explain - why our world of immorality and falsehood is an effect double standards …”
Salome,
Bill
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http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/13898.html#POST76646
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14003.html#POST76653 |
Davidmg
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> And one scary thought about all this is that if or when a finacial collapse happens those trigger happy young adults will be ripe for the millitary pickings. Because when hard times happen people want to have a job and food on the table. And who better than the ones with so call unlimited financial backing can they turn to. The Millitary. Pepole don't realise that when they join the millitary they support the broken system, what ever country they are in and that it continues the cycle of supression.
Davidmg
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Tat_tvam_asi
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| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 - 09:48 pm: |
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THE “ATLANTIS” MISSION
First ..
May I first thank you, James, for your great effort to assemble all BM information on your web site.
It really is enormously helpful for anyone studying the Billy Meier case.
I completely agree with your assessment that Billy Meier and the Plejaren present the events of mankind’s pre-historical era more profoundly and in a much clearer chronological sequence than Edgar Cayce: EC’s readings (and some segments of human folklore / myths and archaeological finds) they are only bits and pieces that may supplement the information given by the CRs and Billy
(One could as well say that with the knowledge provided by Billy and the CRs EC’s “random” information suddenly makes sense)
As mentioned in my previous mail:
Edgar Cayce (EC) mentions in many of his readings “things” who served the Atlanteans in their household and worked their farms.
“It was concerning these ‘things’ that much of the disturbing forces grew between “ those who were of (driven by) “a spiritual thought / desire” (“Children Of The Law Of One”) and those who were of a material thought or desire (“Sons of Belial (SOB)”)
But who were they and why would they have split Atlanteans so deeply that they destroyed each other in a civil war?
EC repeats only vague hints
However, on reading through the records about Atlantis on James’s web site I came across Billy’s explanation of ”humanimals” *) which very much corresponds to the “things” in EC readings.
And Billy’s explanations give an answer to my questions.
These are my findings (I am human – please correct me if my reasoning is mistaken):
1. We all know from Semjase **) that same 50,000 years ago some 70,000 Plejaren under the leadership of Pelegon had fled their “home planet” and settled on Earth
For 10,000 years they lived in peace ***)
2. Then a terrible war broke out which almost completely destroyed all life on our planet:
“only a few thousand human beings survived”: a few thousand distributed over our whole planet that is. So, no wonder, they degenerated:
3. “For 7,000 years none returned to Earth, and the humans left behind degenerated and became “completely wild”
If only a few thousand survived and were distributed over all our planet – for 7000 years – they would have lived very, very isolated, tragic lives – their craving for food and shelter forcing them to apply a mind of kill or be killed, making them not much different to an animal.
This would give meaning to the expression “humanimals”
4. Billy: “The second wavers (Atlant) knew they could only help the first wavers (Pelegon), if they too, materialized in forms that would allow them to work on the lost souls in their own physical form and dimension…”
“Second Wavers could only help the first wavers...”
We know from Billy that humans are reborn on the same planet on which they died and normally – though this may take thousands or millions of years - under similar environments as in their previous life.
After the horrible war (40,000 years ago) our planet was utterly devastated.
To bring up the same high civilization again would have taken an enormously long time.
(= it would have taken Pelegos followers that died on Earth a long, long time to re-incarnate “on the same planet - in a similar environment” .
In addition those Plejaren who were “left behind alive” endured a dismal and tragic life and then had to incarnate again and again for further dismal, tragic lives.
So it is quite understandable that the Plejaren that fled the inferno wanted to assist those Earthlings surviving the carnage – especially if they were of Plejaren heritage.
5. This is what Billy tells us:
“They could only help … if they too, materialized in forms that would allow them to work on the lost souls in their own physical form and dimension…the ancient Atlantean teachings describe how this second wave became the first consciously controlled thought projection or “materialization”, of modern human life on Earth”.
So the real reason that Atlant arrived on our planet was to assist the human life forms that had degenerated because of the civil war fought between “first wavers”.
Atlant’s people came to use a thought projection into the ”ape-like early human …as this form allowed the greatest control and manipulation in the physical world it was chosen to help the “first wavers”…”
“Ape like Early Human”
This seems to relate to the looks and behaviour.
They had a human spirit but were very simple minded (certainly “not as cunning as modern humans”).
The 2nd wavers choose their primitive mind set as a model because they found it easier to change back into “their angelic (swinging) wave”.
If I understand it right:
The second wavers were, accepting a much rougher mind set – like putting on a “mask” for a while – so that they could communicate with the degenerated “first wavers” (who over many generations (7000 years) had built up a consciousness of an animal-human to survive the harsh conditions).
“Thought Projections”
Billy:
"Thus the ancient Atlantean teachings describe how this second wave became the first consciously controlled thought projection, or materialization, of modern human life on Earth (or at least they eventually became more modern as they became more solidified in the material plane from their (more) spiritual angelic state.."
To better understand how dangerous this task was:
EC described the humans of a lower consciousness level as those who had “lost their ability of self control” and one “might compare them to the domestic pets of today (horse, mule, dog, cat)”
Animals may not have a consciousness but instinct but if we use a pet to describe the task they faced up to:
Would we accept the instinct of our dog for a while to teach him about his relationship to the universe ?
Sounds unreal but it certainly would be a dangerous task.
Billy:
“…(if they went too deeply) into physical matter, .. they too would become trapped in limited consciousness just as the humanimals were…”
EC mentions that initially the Atlanteans were not split in the 2 groups “Children Of The Law Of One” and “Sons of Belial” (SOB). But after some time the consciously controlled thought projections (into the rougher world of ape like humans) produced in a growing no. of Atlanteans an appetite for material desires.
According to EC:
The “Children Of The Law Of One” accepted the danger, made the effort but always knew how to control their senses and adhered to their set spiritual goal. But the “SOB” may have lost their way, indulged too much, and became addicted to the rather physical experience
But “…the SOB .. (started to become an opposition) .. when the powers were applied for “self-aggrandizement…” It stimulated in the minds of the Sons of Belial an exaggerated desire for “material things and material desires in the body … they became greedy for more .. this “brought servitude to many”
Similarly, the priest of Sais to Solon:
“…when the divine portion began to fade away, and ..the human nature got the upper hand, they then, being unable to bear their fortune, behaved unseemly, .. grew visibly debased…”
To summarize
Atlant's "2nd wavers" returned to our planet to teach those humans that survived the civil war between Pelegon’s races. These few survivors had to fight for their daily food and shelter and degenerated into “humanimals”. They had completely lost touch with the “Oneness/ Universal Consciousness”
To teach those unfortunate beings Atlanteans had to lower their high spiritual consciousness to a very material consciousness
Through the constant thought projection into a “model material consciousness” some Atlanteans became very addicted to physical pleasures and power - they lost their moral standard.
Two factions arose – one that wanted to help the “humanimals” and those that had lost all moral standards and only wanted to use them as slave labour.
More and more people lost their moral high ground, rebellions broke out.
To gain power hateful scientists around Arus infiltrated the governments of Atlantis and Mu, provoked hatred culminating in a catastrophic war which wiped out almost all life on Earth.
The great unknown is Arus.
We know he was a great Atlantean scientist.
Why did grow such a lust for power - why did he, scheme the destruction of Atlantis and Mu
There is no information at hand anywhere.
I may discuss my guesses in a separate article.
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Atlantis
See “Extract From The Children Of The Law Of One And The Lost Teachings Of Atlantis”
(towards the bottom of the web page)
Billy tells us that their consciousness could not connect anymore with “the Consciousness of the Oneness of the Universe”.
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CR 9 (115-124) http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_009
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They may well have contributed to a population boom for which archaeologists have no explanation:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2225770/Previously-unknown-human-population-boom-revealed-DNA-Massive-expansion-occurred-40-000-years-ago.html |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Notice the difference between the ATLANTIS – and the PLEJAREN - MISSION(in our time):
The Atlanteans taught many humanimals.
They used a compassionate approach (from Latin com = together pati = to suffer) lowering their consciousness to the level of those they wanted to teach.
It ultimately let to the destruction of our world.
This insight may explain why Ptaah, Semjase and Quetzal used a different approach:
They came as “third wavers” willing to inform but one man, Billy, on how to "repair the mind set of humanity".
They always kept their distance to any other human.
(Billy may have explained it with the fact that he was the only one able to tune into their swinging wave) |
Hugo
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Tat_tvam_asi,
I enjoy reading your thoughts and posts about Alantis! 
I wouldn't be surprised if you were one in a past life. |
Michael_horn
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Tat,
I don't know that what you're posting is helpful because you appear to be attributing to Meier things that come from what is described on the FoM page as:
"Please note the following spiel has been included in a heavily edited form for its shear confused and disorderly low value presentation."
Meier never speaks in terms of "souls" and "first wavers", etc. There's too much mumbo-jumbo there and I think it really is not good or helpful to mix all this stuff together and then to represent that it's actually what Meier has said. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Hi Michael,
Sorry if I was mistaken.
I was convinced that – in order to clarify Edgar Cayce’s *) “random readings” – James’ FoM published some of Billy’s statements that I had not heard of before.
Kindly let me know (so that I correct what is not right):
Are none of those findings (e.g. lowering of consciousness etc.) that I quoted as being Billy's true ?
Was the main objective for Atlant's return to Earth the assistance of humans that became "wild" (because only a few thousand humans survived the holocaust some 40,000 years ago)?
Thank you for your assistance and understanding.
Salome,
Bill
PS
I mentioned that the information we have from and through Billy is of much better value than “findings” from other sources, including Edgar Cayce.
But we should be honest to accept that we also “believe” in many things Billy tells us (say e.g. that Billy’s was meeting Ptaah on the Big Spacer, his flight through the universe, his meeting Jmmanuel, the timeline Semjase gave us etc.).
We cannot prove these events but we believe them because we can confirm other “truths” he foretold us.
To a lesser degree this applies as well to Edgar Cayce’s readings:
They have helped a great many to recover from sickness.
This should give some credibility to other parts of his readings as well.
Yes, one has to “over-read religious bits” (like “soul”, “God”, “Prince of Peace” etc.).
But are they not what he and almost all people in our world learnt in youth?
He could not know the Spirit Teachings: when he died Billy was only 8 years old.
And the Plejaren were only teaching Billy.
One has to separate the truth from the untruth.
This is the normal way of all research and life.
But the quintessence of life, research and all being is a loving thought of universal oneness.
As a man thinks so he becomes ... |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Life is Reliving History
Thank you, Hugo.
First. please note re. my “writing” about the “Atlantis Mission”:
I was convinced that – in order to clarify Edgar Cayce’s “random readings” – James’ FoM published some of Billy’s statements on Atlanteans that I had not heard of before.
But Michael ‘s post tells me that this may not be true.
I will wait for his answer then update this article:
There still is a great likelihood that Atlant returned to our planet to assist those few, unfortunate survivors of the great war that devastated Earth 40,000 years ago.
But the explanations I quoted from James’ web site may not relate to Billy.
Yes, I love history – especially the history of Atlantis.
Regrettably the information we have is only very sparse.
And a big question mark dangles over the many myths, past and present, that arose from it:
“Which one is true – which one is made up?”
The Plejaren have only left us some rudimentary knowledge of events that shaped the time their forefathers settled on our planet.
We do not know the thoughts that shaped their history, their YHWH and their people.
It is regrettable because our human roots are not of this planet.
Some 44 % of Edgar Cayce’s readings referred to people that had incarnations in Atlantis.
Billy and Semjase tell us that after the destruction of Atlantis the human race had to be recreated through the union of Earth women and the sub-leaders of Arus.
Even the Earth women were of ancient Lyrian origin – but through their incarnations on Earth would have accepted the genes of Sirian overlords - our other ET ancestors.
And the longer humanity is not told the full truth, the more it cannot grow from past mistakes, cannot gain the right perspective, cannot set the right goals, cannot gain wisdom:
The full understanding of our roots is essential for the decisions we make for our future.
It is true that each human being is responsible for his own life.
That he has to try, make mistakes and learn from them.
But he can learn as well from studying the accounts of fellow humans, especially his ancestors, how their thoughts shaped their deeds and how their deeds shaped the effects they created.
Earth humans only have a knowledge of a few thousand years.
They cannot see their connection to the more distant past.
Their scientists – are they not seeking to explain man’s evolution with the evolution of species here on Earth?
Because they lack the knowledge of their true origins they cannot see that the Here and Now is a ripple effect of the past *).
Like a child that searches for his lost parents – so humanity searches for the truth about its forefathers.
It would be a timely truth:
There is a need to awaken humanity before it is too late.
Salome,
Bill
*) Some Samples:
The nuclear arms piles and the threat of nuclear war today – is it not similar to the same arms built-up that would have happened in Atlantis?
The pure race that Arus wanted to keep and his scheming culminating in a war that ended almost all life on Earth – was there not someone in recent history that had similar ideas thoughts of superiority building up to a terrible world war?
(Indeed the 2 horrible wars of the Atlanteans – don’t they bear some resemblance to WWI and WWII?)
The psychopathic Arus the intrigues he used to invade and create wars – this same plotting, was it not used by the YHWH that followed him – does it not recur in politics today?
The religious/political double standards we witness in our day (“what is right for god, is not right for man”) don’t they have their roots in our ET forefathers? |
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