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Hugo
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Post Number: 246
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2016 - 03:22 pm: | 
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Daniel_ratajczak, I think Trump will be better then Clinton for President in regards to helping avoid the WW4 prophecies although I am not sure about that. Time will tell. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1208
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2016 - 04:22 pm: |
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I'm not sure what it means, or what it would matter, to "expose the Dark Order". We already know that there are various military, governmental, religious, economic parties, etc., involved. We probably already know who some of them are.
So they give you more names...then what? Are you going to go arrest them, protest at their businesses, etc.?
No.
Most people can and will do...nothing.
However, for all those who are excited to actually do something touring some light on the truth, please feel free to contact Michael Moore in support of his doing a documentary on the Meier case. Should that occur, then MILLIONS more people would at least know about it and have the choice as to what they would do without heir knowledge.
His Facebook (for Visitor's Posts) and Twitter info:
https://www.facebook.com/mmflint/?hc_location=ufi
@MMFlint
Let's see if, after all these years, the people here are up to the task of taking a simple action, which would require less than...two minutes of their time. |
Votan
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Post Number: 559
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2016 - 04:32 pm: |
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Michael
I think Trump is not a person to mess with. He has the funds to counteract any unwelcome hindrance.
Watch and see if he gets in the first place. Something tells me that it will be Hilary.
See if I am right.
joe
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Norm3
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2016 - 04:36 pm: |
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The problem is the D.O. can manipulate anything. A War, Financial Crisis, Food or Oil shortage etc.
Somehow they convinced all these new Tech billionaires to join their cause.
Its must be rooted in the Banking sector they control world currencies through their Central Banks world wide. |
Norm3
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2016 - 07:14 pm: |
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Michael, An outsider like Trump is going to be harder to control than someone that already agrees with the Order. Its obvious the Order doesn't want Trump because he is harder to control & might lash out. Otherwise they wouldn't be attacking him endlessly in the controlled Media.
Remember, "Give me Liberty or give me death." - Patrick Henry |
Norm3
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2016 - 07:16 am: |
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Since Hillery attacked this thing called Alt-Right.
What is the Alt Right? | The Rubin Report
https://youtu.be/aoLi4rC6xm8
What Is The Alt-Right? | Vox Day and Stefan Molyneux
https://youtu.be/S-Wn0J0eC6I |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1209
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2016 - 08:12 am: |
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Norm,
An "outsider" SURROUNDED by "insiders" does what he's told...for hims sake and the sake of his family. |
Cpl
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Post Number: 812
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2016 - 08:16 am: |
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If he gets in, Trump will obviously be approached and threatened by Big State reps. Would he then fold? On the surface it seems obvious that he would, but a billionaire has a network of rich and influential contacts across various sections of society. This is different from someone like Obama who does not have such independent, powerful contacts and supporters. Trump meets with and seems to have the support of other powerful people, and certainly many multimillionaires and ordinary folk from the populace, not to mention any of his billionaire contacts and friends.
I am a bit surprised that hardly any one here seems to be asking HOW the coming civil wars in America develop and erupt into fulfilment. Obviously, we do not wish to encourage the idea that they definitely will occur, rather we need to work with the intent to see that they don't occur.
The current election campaign between Trump and Clinton, however, has the US strongly divided. There are even violent attacks by Democrats on Republicans, and vociferous verbal threats of revolution coming from the Republican or Trump supporters should he win and somehow be prevented or robbed of the presidency. To me as a non-American this all looks terribly threatening to the survival of the USA.
If the Deep State approaches Trump in office, then he just may talk about it openly. You could then have the populace divided with certain billionaires and millionaires siding with Trump and his supporters fighting against the establishment and it's media with the public who support Hillary or anyone but Trump.
What I am saying is that I already see a USA divided in two, with public hostilities already breaking out (that the media do not report because the attacks are predominantly from Democrats (whom the media want to support) against Trump supporters. IMO, cooler heads are needed across America if the country is to survive this and not degenerate into civil war.
Billy has said that sectarianism will play a role in this, and that could also mean political sectarianism which can be every bit as dogmatic, uncompromising, and even violent as religious sectarianism. Tread carefully America and Americans. Do the right things. Act and speak in honesty and truth, and care for each other or you may lose more than you can imagine.
Chris
Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Votan
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Post Number: 562
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2016 - 02:12 pm: |
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Chris
What was the cause of the last Civil War- Slavery.
People are like cattle they are easily led thru the media and this election is the catalyst for the eruption. It is that simple.
This storm has been brewing for a long time.Also the African -American problem in a lot of minds has not been solved.
joe
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Norm3
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2016 - 02:14 pm: |
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Trump’s Tactics and Hillary’s Persuasion Game (Scott Adams Interview - Dilbert cartoonist)
https://youtu.be/I3BQGwESVbU |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 405
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2016 - 05:13 pm: |
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Yes, people are like cattle and easily and blindly led; many cannot think for themselves. The churches take advantage of that!
"Give the church 10 percent of your annual earnings and God will reward by multiplying your earnings."
The American Civil War was not started over slavery; that was an afterthought to swing the war efforts to the North, which was heavily publicized. Keep in mind, owning another person during that time and before, was very common in many countries. People were blindly led to believe that the Civil War was about slavery; this was a tool that was very effectively used. Think about it, many in the North had slaves as well. In fact, many that signed the Declaration of Independence owned slaves at the time.
People are still being led and cry over their enslaved ancestors. All those that were around during the civil war are all dead, including slave owners and slaves alike. BTW, back in the day, the Africans in Africa had their own slaves as well.
The Civil War is still reenacted today into almost a cult frenzy! What other wars in the world are continuously reenacted? The Revolution of 1776 – 1783 created the United States, the Civil War of 1861 – 1865 determined whether the United States was to be a confederation of sovereign states (similar to Europe) or an indivisible nation with a national government.
Here is the issue; if the North won the war, would this nation then declare that all men were created with an equal right to liberty, but continue to exist as the largest slaveholding country in the world?
http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/civil-war-overview/overview.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/
There are still countries in the world that use slavery.
These are the countries with the most slaves.
• India. > Est. population in modern slavery: 14.3 million. ...
• China. > Est. population in modern slavery: 3.2 million. ...
• Pakistan. > Est. population in modern slavery: 2.1 million. ...
• Uzbekistan. > Est. population in modern slavery: 1.2 million. ...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2014/11/23/247-wall-st-countries-most-slaves/70033422/
Kenneth |
Norm3
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2016 - 05:20 pm: |
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Michael,
"If the broad light of day could be let in upon men’s actions, it would purify them as the sun disinfects." -Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis (1916–1939)
You never know maybe someone powerful with some clout could decide to do something if they have a target. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 419
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2016 - 01:44 am: |
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-- Human History Is The Struggle To Break Free From “Slavery” --
It was greed that made England the world’s major slave trading country. *)
Kidnapping slaves made many well known English cities immensely rich:
Wealthy London, Bristol, Liverpool – don’t they e.g. say “Each brick in Liverpool … the blood of an African slave…”?
Yes, every second slave was transported on an English ship.
East European people became known as “Slavic” for a horrible reason…
The Vikings, they killed the men and sold their women and children as slaves.
The Romans had all their work (and wars) done by slaves.
So did the highly lauded Egyptians – and one third of Athens was slaves …
Enslaving Earth humans was the goal of Arus, the Gize Intel and all the religions that grew out of it.
Edgar Cayce mentioned that the downfall of Atlantis came to pass because of the treatment of the slave workers.
And what about the Sirian overlords who manipulated our genes to make us brutal slave warriors?
We all carry their genes.
The genes of those that enslaved and of those that were enslaved.
And so we see our world today, the double standards, brutalities and aggressions building up to the next climax – is it not the same greed, the same double standards, the same “reserving special rights for their class of have’s at the cost of the many have not’s”, the same deception – again and again?
Will our religious, political and commercial leaders "unearth" the lie of their pretended humanism ?
Their mistaken belief in superiority that has driven humanity to endless conceit, from slaves to enslaver, from one war to the next.
Will they discover that -
“A human being is part of the whole, called by us the universe, a part limited in time and space…”
A. Einstein.
The essence of our being is a sense, a swinging wave, of oneness-connectedness.
The knowledge that we all are one being - manifested in many.
Salome,
Bill
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http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/slavery/pdf/britain-and-the-trade.pdf |
Votan
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Post Number: 564
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2016 - 04:10 am: |
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Chris and Bill
Both excellent articles.There is a lot of things I did not know about slavery.
I am sure that a lot of the readers have learnt something new.
I suppose if we go back in history money was not so much the stimulus but power and religion still played a important role.
Even to this day we are all slaves to the governments . All the money they extract and waste.
The next thing will be special detection devices built into cars which will fine you every time you exceed the limit even by 1 mile or 1 kilometre. I should watch it as some government employee might be reading this article and put it into practice.
All about power over the people. Are we really free. We must have some laws but everyday it gets worse.
joe
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 733
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2016 - 11:49 am: |
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Hi Joe, sometime between 1995 and 2005 all vehicles were fitted with black boxes and that's how police and other accident investigators know what speed someone was doing at the time of their accident. Found this out firsthand 4 years ago.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 407
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2016 - 09:55 pm: |
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Norm3,
Very interesting article. These to candidates are very different in there style. The flip side; how the Clinton's work within our government. This is so wrong in so many ways! They may not be the only ones doing this?
Comey didn't charge Hillary...now we know the rest of the story...
Worth taking the time to read because this story is starting to leak out from FBI agents and others "who are in the know" inside the Washington beltway! The agents at the FBI are livid that Comey did what he did. They are claiming there was more than sufficient evidence to bring several indictments against Hillary Clinton. It wasn't a slam dunk case, but it had more than a good probability of a conviction for Hillary Clinton.
Lynch and Obama made it clear to Comey that if he pressed for an indictment, he would be taking the Democrat nominee for president out of the election. If he failed to get a conviction he would be facing charges of tampering with and changing the outcome of a federal election, to which he would be facing the rest of his life in prison, and Obama and Lynch, as well as others, would see to it that he did. Now you know why he presented his case he way he did and why it was so obvious he was reluctant to not press for an indictment.
Hillary’s statement to the FBI was intentionally given without a court reporter present or without any recording of her testimony to prevent her from having any further exposure to legal charges like perjury. And Comey wasn’t present. If she lied to Congress, they have no written FBI deposition to confront Hillary with. This was set up to let her walk without fear of being charged with giving False Testimony or being charged with Obstruction of Justice. This is what those in the “legalese world" call a "Straw Man" legal charge. (It is a charge designed to make someone appear innocent of the charges!)
EXAMPLE: Bill beats up Shirley at their home. Bill is arrested for "Felony Spousal Abuse”. Bill's lawyer gets the charges dismissed because Bill is not married to Shirley! (They are only “live in boyfriend and girlfriend".) Bill walks out of court totally exonerated of the charges thanks to a technicality! The twist in the case is the arresting officer knew all along Bill was not married to Shirley because the officer and Bill are old fraternity brothers. The officer intentionally charged Bill with something he knew would not stick. Bill would easily have been convicted of Assault and Battery, but he was not charged with that! This is what is known as the "STRAW MAN" charge. It is how you make a guilty person appear innocent.
This is exactly what was done with the Hillary Clinton case! If she had been charged with "Destruction of Government Documents", she would have easily been convicted, because she admitted to doing this! Instead, she was charged with "Mishandling Classified Documents" which has wiggle room for reasonable doubt regarding Criminal Intent!
I think citizens are finally fed up with the Clinton's and the cesspool of corruption that is our current government. Real Americans are ready to take our country back. All of these years of corruption have taken a toll on American lives. Citizens opinions of a lying White House, a corrupt Congress, the "pay to play" politicians, the legalese lawyers and lobbyists, big overspending "welfare mentality" government, the "looking for a loop hole" justice system, the lying media, and our censored educational system with an agenda to dumb down the next generation, is at the lowest point ever.
Hillary is on the wrong side of every issue. The British Exit from the EU (Brexit) is just a small sign that real citizens of civilized nations are ready to take their country back. They are sick of the results of open borders and globalization led by power hungry elites.
Hillary Clinton has no character or integrity. She is an arrogant, condescending political elite who is only interested in lining the Clinton pockets with donations to the Clinton Foundation (wink, wink) from PACS, lobbyists, and foreign nations that buy access and favors. The Clinton Foundation is nothing more than an operation used to launder money for the Clinton's and other politicians involved in illegal activities. The Clinton's are able to use the information of those participating to obtain cover for their activities, or blackmail those who are laundering money through them.
Just count the number of politicians who arrive in Washington with nothing, but leave as millionaires and billionaires. Did their votes serve in the best interest of their constituents or did they only benefit themselves?
If the representatives of your state fall in this category, then I suggest an investigation be launched.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3457272/posts |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 734
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2016 - 07:33 am: |
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Hi Kenneth, don't forget the "Clinton Family Foundation" which is a separate entity of the "Clinton Foundation". Perhaps some investigators should also look to see if there is a "Bill Clinton Foundation" or a "Hillary Clinton Foundation" or a "Hillary Rodham Foundation" or a "Chelsea Clinton Foundation" or a "Bill Clinton Serial Rapist Foundation" or a "Hillary Clinton Money Laundering Foundation". The foundations could go on and on because lawyers love to set up "charitable" organizations.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Norm3
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2016 - 02:11 pm: |
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Wow the Establishment won't like this. Years ago Nader couldn't get in the debates. They tried to make it hard for Ross Perot too.
Trump Won’t Debate Without 3rd Party Candidates
https://youtu.be/EOT_CbvW3jc |
Norm3
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2016 - 09:24 pm: |
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EU, Migrants, Rise of the Right - This Week in Stupid (04/09/2016)
http://youtu.be/nzBWuQ3vqRM |
Bianca
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Post Number: 138
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 02:33 am: |
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I find that material posted on alternative sites is far more interesting and so for those of us who read other sites to US info. here is a link to the Russian, one amongst many good reads. news:https://sputniknews.com/science/20160904/1044960563/ufo-alien-rocket-elon-musk.htmlhttps://sputniknews.com/world/20160901/1044868260/ufo-international-space-station.html
All this may be boring news, I know, but reading another perspective is interesting and food for thought.
In my opinion, those ufos who interfere in earth's affairs are NOT the real ETs and definitely are not the Plejaren. Did anyone consider that they may be earth's future people? or maybe 1 of the 4 ET groups that visit this planet? however, I doubt this scenario. I think that Elon Musk rocket exploded because he maybe close to a discovery of sorts...and since he is an individual who does not answer to the cabal, he had to be taught a lesson. How come we didnt hear much about it, only that the rocket exploded.
btw, did anyone bother look at the clips about Hillary's health?
Did anyone read the info that there was another 'leak' for sale with sensitive material, and no its not from Russia. They are asking if there is a second E. Snowden amongst the NSA?
…Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All.
OM
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Norm3
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Post Number: 45
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 06:55 am: |
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Amazing Bill Clinton on Illegal Immigration in 1995 sounds like Trump.
https://youtu.be/kWnbfVe6tB4 |
Michael_k
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 02-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 07:06 am: |
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Hi Bianca,
VeteransToday posted this news on Sept.1st, 2nd and 3rd
Today’s Space X Rocket Explosion at Cape Canaveral—What in Hell was That?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/01/todays-space-x-rocket-explosion-at-cape-canaveral-what-in-hell-was-that/
UFO destroys Israeli weaponised satellite on the launch pad
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/02/ufo-destroys-israeli-weaponised-satellite-on-the-launch-pad/
EXCLUSIVE: Why did the Israeli satellite blow up on the launchpad
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/03/exclusive-why-did-the-israeli-satellite-blow-up-on-the-launchpad/
Everyone makes his/her own decision about what is true and real!!!
For me the question I ask for myself is, where were the position of the fuel tanks mounted in the rocket after seeing the pictures of the Sept. 2nd on VT site.
Best regards
Michael |
Afonso11
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 02-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 05:29 pm: |
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Michael_horn, hi Michael and everyone. I unfortunately agree with you when you say most people can and will do nothing but there are exceptions to that seeming general rule. Michael Moore getting coverage out there for Mr. Meier would be phenomenal for both broad audience and credibility. I've been trying to read everyone's messages going back a few months to see what kind of "vibe" the conversations have been about and I have grow to appreciate the many valid points of fact and points of reference that all the forum members have contributed here with their writings and links. the attempts to make sense of current, ongoing facts and new data that arrives are especially important in understanding the warnings and contacts that were given us (many thanks!)to help us get through what seem to be shaping up as very challenging times on various levels. since about January/February of this year I have been researching many topics related to the material that Mr. Meier and the Plejaren have given us and when researching whistleblowers I came across the work being done by Karen Hudes of the world bank and the research she had done to expose the origins of many topics of concern touched upon here. not only does she provide many concrete facts and data to support her position(s) but also gives to us a working plan to transition from the current state of affairs to a more equitable one for all the citizens of all the countries of the world. All of them. This, according to the framework of the Trust called the Global Debt Facility, entails that all the governments of the world go through her (she's the overseer mandate trustee for the Global Debt Facility) and be cleared by the board of governors of the World Bank to receive the gold held for them in the GDF, the countries then transition from central bank issued dollars (or yen, euros, rubles, etc.)to currencies issued by the treasuries of each country and backed by this gold being held in trust for the benefit of humanity. the gold was held in sequestration from 1944,was subject to statute of limitations until 2005, with a moratorium until 2010. it is administered by the world bank only and is not subject to any other jurisdiction. The Treaty of Versailles bonds issued in 1933 on this gold(and silver, diamonds, art pieces, etc.)have been compounding interest after all this time and that is why she says that the Network of Global Corporate Control (all those various entities that you guys have been mentioning), who are 147 core companies, identified by three mathematicians from the Zurich institute of technology, that own 40% of the assets of the 40,000+ companies in the financial/capital markets and take in 60% of the profits, are now exposed and have nowhere to hide. the plan continues on to exchange the treasury emitted dollars, yen, etc., for aurum, which is currency with the actual amount of gold embedded in it and corresponding to the printed value of the note. Interest free. This, in conjunction with local currencies (to be determined by the individual towns and communities) is the end goal that will allow citizens of every county to have their own interest-free currencies and allow humanity to free itself from bondage to the usurious forms of fiat currency that have been foisted on human beings (for centuries if not millennia)and truly see that the real opponents are not the individual countries themselves but rather this Network that has used state capture of various governments to exercise control over the issuance of money to the detriment of the citizenry. This plan to change all of this exists and is based on a power transition model brought to her by jacek kugler of the department of defense in 2004, I believe it was. this power transition model is based on game theory and input from experts and the changing roles of "shareholder interest". this model is stated to be 90-95% accurate and recently ms. hudes said it's been tracking like clockwork. The World Bank has declared the U.S. to be in a state of interregnum. That means all 188 ministers of finance comprising the G-77 know and are on board with the plan. Ditto for the BRICS. And so the u.s (minus the Fed) has also been informed of the gold awaiting it. She's put the fed and 20 or so central banks into receivership as well as commercial liens on members of the military, political circles, and anyone else who has tried to stop the implementation of this peaceful power transition model and/or the release and acceptance of the gold held in trust for humanity. We can all thank Jose Rizal for this. His strategy for giving humanity a way to escape the imposed indebtedness and slavery (via debt) these unscrupulous entities were planning to (further)unleash on the peoples of the world is now bearing fruit. Ms. Hudes' research also may shine some light on the contact report information that you all have been discussing and possibly provide more clarity on the "why" of many prophesies that have and will continue to be, in all probability, further corroborated by incoming information. In my view, she is humanity's "front line" in combating the corruption and she is making serious headway. She has repelled various attempts to steal this wealth. She has called out and exposed many people and their attempts to outright steal the gold as well as exposing those that are actively trying to interfere with or stop her from carrying on with her objectives. There is a mainstream media blackout on her. Doesn't that sound all too familiar? But she will not be ignored as she is in constant contact with the appropriate people who are also aware of the true nature of the situation (foreign embassies, government officials of all types and from many countries, the governors of all the states as well as their adjutant generals, the military, et.al.)and is informing and receiving assistance from those that are now aware that this entity can no longer implement it's apparent goal of financial instability and overall chaos for the purpose of full global control, and are prepared to aid in the smooth peaceful transition to aurum as the basis for every nation's currency. So this is a Global Currency Reset approved by the Ministers of Finance and this will require everyone to be aware and on board. The people on this forum seem to be more aware than most so I implore all of you to find out for yourselves what this information entails and the unique position that humanity has been given as well as the opportunity to eliminate this nonsense once and for all, it is hoped. I haven't come across a better plan yet, in my opinion. But I leave it to each of you to be the judge. her site is kahudes.net as I had mentioned in a previous post and I would welcome the opportunity to discuss this matter together here. sorry for such a long message but once you guys delve into the material that I have briefly mentioned you'll probably agree that I have tried to keep it short. thank you all for listening. Peace to all.
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