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Corey
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Post Number: 1276
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 11:26 pm: | 
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Bianca,
I think you are correct about doubting the "ET scenario", because I don't think the past can be changed by people from the future, what is done, is done, and what benefit would 1 of the 4 groups of ET's stationed here benefit by sabotaging a rocket? Maybe Musk against the cabal is the story of the day? Then again, who knows?
Afonso,
your post was a well-researched post, I am still reading (and re-reading it) to try and make sense of it all. Is there hope in our future? Or not? Is she bravely going up against the Dark Order? An honest banker, how did that happen? Our planet needs more women (and men) like her if what you say is the truth.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Salome/Corey Müske
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Afonso11
Member
Post Number: 7
Registered: 02-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 08:27 am: |
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corey, thank you for listening. we are the men and women. we are what this planet has. I feel that the concepts of "forceless-force" should be applied if we are the ones in the position to feel and accept responsibility and therefore the subsequent need to act. hudes, in my opinion, uses this "attitude/mindset" in a legal (she's a lawyer and economist) context to defeat or neutralize opposition to this (hoped for) peaceful Global Currency Reset. the pen is indeed mightier than the sword, in her case. for me, many disparate things start to come together to form a more complete picture of the "dynamics" of these causes and effects, as well as the true origins of present circumstances on this earth. good luck with the research:-) -------a. |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 411
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 02:21 pm: |
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Michael_k,
First off, The U.S. Government gets involved in private rocket industries to perpetuate the technology thereby speeding up this space-based industry. The U.S. government most always leads a particular technology development and then turns it over to civilian counterparts as this is cost effective for the government.
This SpaceX film is very interesting. Studying these images and film footage several times; here’s my opinion for what it’s worth. FYI, I’ve worked in the aerospace industry for well over twenty years. Hoping to not burst any bubbles here. I retired out of the LSG division of an aerospace company; the LSG acronym stands for “Launch Systems Group”.
There definitely appears to be something in the pictures that is not supposed to be there according to our understanding of rocket launch technology. Keep in mind that the Plejaren and maybe others in the Federation are watching Earth’s activities very closely.
The intensity of the explosion accompanied by the production of intense light, heat, sound and pressure, revealed what appeared to be a telemeter disc; as our Plejaren friends are monitoring what we do. This does not appear to be sabotage.
SpaceX uses RP-1 (Refined Petroleum-1, Kerosene based) Jet fuel with liquid oxygen as the rocket propellants in a gas-generator cycle. When you mix any ignited propellant with liquid oxygen you will have a tremendous explosion; containing that explosion in a controlled manor is the trick. Liquid hydrogen is less stable and much more dangerous than RP-1. Most rocket companies use solid rocket motors as it’s the safest propellant in the market today. RP-1 and Hydrogen are much more reactive which also provides more lift for heavy payloads.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RP-1
Currently in the rocket industry, the batteries are the weak link; if the battery catches fire like some laptops or hover-boards, you will have a massive explosion.
At some point, maybe Billy will reveal that this object was actually a telemeter disc? For those new to the forum; a Telemeter discs are unmanned and remote controlled flight crafts ranging from 1 centimeter to 5 meters in diameter. These types of flight crafts are only built for the purposes of surveillance and investigation.
http://www.meiersaken.info/UFO_case.html
Salome
Kenneth |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 1282
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 09:46 pm: |
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Kenneth,
If it was a telemeter disc, it displays that the Plejaren are monitoring our planet's development, which displays genuine concern for the Earth.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Salome/Corey Müske
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 412
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 10:01 pm: |
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Michael_k,
To be clear in answering your questions. These types of rockets are multiple stages; every stage has some form of fuel tanks. The stage closest to the ground and the largest is the 1st stage; 2nd stage is in the middle, which means that the 3rd stage is near to top of the rocked and near the payload.
The area of the rocket that first experienced an anomaly appeared to be the 3rd stage fuel area or the top of the 2nd stage motor.
SpaceX is also perfecting the liquid fuel technology; a very painful and accident / technical prone endeavor. The government and NASA are helping with this technology in the private aerospace industry.
RP-1 and LOX or Liquid Oxygen is pumped into the rocket before launch. If the launch is aborted these fuels are removed from the rocket. Keep in mind that LOX expands from 1 to 861 times at standard atmosphere of 20 °C (68 °F). That is why the side of the rocket looks like it is frozen, because it is!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_rocket_engine_family
Kenneth |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 248
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 10:08 pm: |
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Kenneth, if it was a Plajeran telemeter disc why did the P's keep it in visible mode when the P's say they monitor and try to do things discretely? |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 413
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 08:48 am: |
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Hugo,
You kind of answered your own question; it was invisible to keep it discreet. Can you imagine what would happen if a visible object or craft approached a rocket launch site during a launch sequence that appeared to be under some kind of control? Literally, all hell would break out! The launch would be scrubbed; fighter jets would be scrambled; etc.
Because this is a highly restricted airspace; DEFCON alert could also be activated. We are currently at DEFCON 5, least severe. The Cuban Missile Crisis was a DEFCON 2; a DEFCON 1 means war between governments is imminent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEFCON
It appears to be way too soon for the majority of Earthlings to come to the realization that extraterrestrials are watching our every move. People would freak out. It could most likely be the 1938 War of The Worlds radio broadcast with Orson Welles all over again where people committed suicide due to fear of the unknown and / or extraterrestrial intervention.
https://archive.org/details/WarOfTheWorlds1938RadioBroadcast256kbps
Sincerely
Kenneth |
Watchdog
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 12:43 pm: |
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Space X was just an accident. Nothing more Nothing less.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 414
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 09:08 am: |
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Corey,
Yes, we're in agreement, "it displays that the Plejaren are monitoring our planet's development, which displays genuine concern for the Earth."
The Plejaren's telemeter discs provide them with instant Earth population; why not rocket launches as well? |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 581
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 08:21 pm: |
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Kenneth
You are right,why would they pack up and leave earth after how long they had a base here.
They went into the future and found out what we are capable of with our weapons of mass destruction and the repercussions of the universe.
They will react if that happens.
joe
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Eddieamartin
Member
Post Number: 722
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 09:09 pm: |
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In my opinion,
the beamship that flew by the exploding Falcon-9 rocket (faster than the explosion itself) appeared more like a Druan beamship.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Corey
Member
Post Number: 1283
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 11:59 pm: |
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Votan,
This is why development needs to be used to guard the Earth, and guard all of it's inhabitants globally, RE for the positive, or the results could be catastrophic from our mistakes. We cannot abuse our developments, or use them for the detriment of the Earth. We need to be respectful of the situation at all times, it is after all for our planet's people, although we all have different cultures that need to be respected, we are one people (who may be a little rough around the edges), and after all, who among us should want to be abusive to the Earth, nor allow this to happen? At all times, we have to remember the future (so it can play out as a positive), as well as, remember our future reincarnation environments will be the making of our own present creation.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Salome/Corey Müske
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Corey
Member
Post Number: 1284
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 12:31 am: |
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Kenneth,
"It appears to be way too soon for the majority of Earthlings to come to the realization that extraterrestrials are watching our every move." The jury is still out on this one, if it were explained correctly, you never know what might be accepted by our people of Earth, although some rejection could be anticipated.
One thing is clear, our people collectively need direct, and precise instruction on the laws and recommendation of Creation by the principles laid down in the "Goblet of the Truth" for the entire Earth, all 9 billion of them, and this would also ensure our society would be based in creational law. FIGU and Billy restored my dignity when I discovered, and started reading the Geisteslehre, and the entire Earth deserves the same human valueful dignity. I was overcame with a feeling that I was rediscovering something I had been missing for a long time, and maybe this has to do with predecessor personalities for me, I am forever in locked in my appreciation of FIGU.
knowledge fills the inner voids caused by unknowledgeness of the truth, and these voids can be detrimental to the human beings of Earth. when I woke up, I discovered how deep my inner voids were, I was incredibly pissed off for a time, for the inner turmoil caused by what I was missing out on (the laws and recommendations of Creation), in other words, what was withheld by the fallacies of illusion of the Earth, in my eyes, this makes the Bafath responsible for my personal situation of inner voids, and I can hold the Nokodemion spirit-form responsible (this is positive) for restoring my dignity, honour, etc in my current life-cycle.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Salome/Corey Müske
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Corey
Member
Post Number: 1285
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 01:29 am: |
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Votan,
One more thing, planetary development has to be used for peaceful purposes only, as they say in my area of the Earth, no if's, and's, or but's about it. Not for tools of war, which can be catastrophic, with devastating results. There are some lines that should never be crossed.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Salome/Corey Müske
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Cpl
Member
Post Number: 821
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 10:29 am: |
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Corey,
"I can hold the Nokodemion spirit-form responsible (this is positive) for restoring my dignity, honour, etc in my current life-cycle."
Allow me to say I think you short-changed yourself there :-)
It is you who restored your dignity, honor etc in your current life-cycle.
The Nokodemion spirit form showed you the way, making it possible; but you did it, making you responsible for it.
We are each responsible for what we do, negative or positive, bad or good.
Chris
Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 416
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 02:53 pm: |
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Corey,
Regarding your 1284 post; yes, I agree with you, we are still on the same page; was only answering Hugo's question, "if it was a Plajeran telemeter disc why did the P's keep it in visible mode".
But to be clear; either we saw this probable telemeter disc because of the violent explosion, OR we were meant to find the disc.
This event reminds me of the fence post and passing car under the Wedding Cake UFO after the photo that Billy took was enhanced.
Yes the jury is still out and time will tell.
Nonetheless, how much more correctly can it be explained than what Billy Meier and Michael Horn has provided in UFO photos, Hundreds of extraterritorial contacts, letters, 5-year investigation at Billy's location, literature, prophecies, predictions, books and The Teaching to name a few.
Kenneth |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 723
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 05:48 pm: |
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Elon Musk himself has pointed attention to the "ufo" that flew by during the Falcon-9 explosion.
Elon also stated the explosion occurred during a fueling stage. Meaning the rockets were not on and therefore no source of heat.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 250
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 06:03 pm: |
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If I didn't find the Billy Meier case I think I would still be lost in the new age spiritual nonsense scene!  |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 417
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 09:04 pm: |
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Eddieamartin,
When you said, "Meaning the rockets were not on. . . " I'm assuming that you mean that the ignition sequence of the first stage had not occurred?
None the less, the rocket is still powered up electronically, otherwise the fueling process would not work properly and all the sensors would not be operating; which also means that the batteries also had power to them.
We more than likely will not know what really happened until the accident investigation has been completed. It would be interesting to see if the investigation mentions the apparent UFO, or will the government and NASA conceal this as well? |
Hendrikus1970
Member
Post Number: 87
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 09:56 pm: |
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Hugo,
yes like hundreds of thousands of others that follow the Galactic Federation of Light.
See what great marketing and money can do
dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/470326/Introducing-Ashtar-Command-Galactic-Federation-Light |
Matthew
Member
Post Number: 142
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2016 - 06:02 am: |
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Re: Falcom 9 rocket explosion
This was definitely NOT a plejaren telemeter disk near Falcom-9 and anyone making such an assumption is stupid.
Think about it... The Plejaren would not irresponsibly show their devices like this in association with an act of aggression when all their actions up to now have been non-violent, subtle and about promoting peace.
More likely this was a much bigger craft than a telemeter disk (which could hardly be caught on video, without emitting light, as they are so small) belonging to some group who feel threatened by Musks' company SpaceX and want to maintain control of all future US space programs.
Matthew |
Eddieamartin
Member
Post Number: 724
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2016 - 07:51 am: |
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Kenneth,
Since Elon Musk and the entire world is pointing at and discussing the ufo more so than the explosion ...I really want to see the government avoid it.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 735
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2016 - 08:36 am: |
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Elon Musk is "not ruling out the possibility that the UFO caused the explosion". I hope this is his way of drawing attention to UFOs in general but it sounds like he might be blaming a UFO for the explosion. The most likely scenario would be that the UFO was actually a drone from his competitors. In all likelihood the explosion was due to mechanical and/or human failure.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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