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Norm3
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 09:08 am: | 
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German diaspora to Hungary
https://youtu.be/d5Az-aq_Bjo |
Norm3
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 06:04 pm: |
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Birth Control: Mike Wallace Interviews Margaret Sanger. Sanger makes a great point against the Catholic Church.
https://youtu.be/CrkrkSiFApA?t=8m25s |
Norm3
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2016 - 10:08 am: |
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Another loony article. 
Overpopulation is a Myth, Researchers Confirm World is “Suffering From a Shortage of Children”
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/09/02/overpopulation-is-a-myth-researchers-confirm-world-is-suffering-from-a-shortage-of-children/ |
Norm3
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 08:31 pm: |
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Crisis in Calais: The Jungle
http://youtu.be/nS0o42fe770 |
Norm3
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Post Number: 50
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - 04:28 pm: |
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Obama makes it official! Wants 110,000 refugees admitted to US in FY17, starts in 18 days!
http://tinyurl.com/j2wvn2u |
Hugo
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Post Number: 251
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 02:05 am: |
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Norm3, thanks for all the links you post! I like them. |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 159
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 11:00 am: |
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Remember we have an immigration crisis on this planet due to overpopulation so why should America be spared? Putting up a wall is equivalent to living in Louisiana (USA) you cannot keep the floods out no more than you can keep the people out...This is an effect which will continue to play itself out until we reduce the population, immigration policies are nothing more than wishful, childlike thinking
MsMichelle
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Norm3
Member
Post Number: 52
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 12:39 pm: |
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Hugo, Thanks for being open minded & looking at them.
The Obama Immigration Policy Timeline Wrecking Ball: Summary
https://youtu.be/rzvZyti9Vvk |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 423
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2016 - 07:49 am: |
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We need to perform both immigration control and population control simultaneously; saying that it will be a challenge, is an understatement.
Kenneth |
Norm3
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2016 - 01:13 pm: |
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Msmichelle, Each country needs to take care of it own population not let its over-population flow into other countries. |
Norm3
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Post Number: 54
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2016 - 02:45 pm: |
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My question to Billy,
Norm
Hi Billy, Can you give us some insight into why the leaders of Europe & the USA are opening their Borders to the overpopulated 3rd world? It seems like an insane policy that can't continue forever. It almost seems like some grand plan to sink their own countries in overpopulation & the problems that come with it.
Billy's Answer
Reasons for that are false thinking, false politics, false humanism, etc.
Btw: Billy’s prophecies and predictions already announced this clearly in the fifties and sixties of the last century.
From the ‘letter to all the governments of Europe' by BEAM from the 25th of August 1958
"Slowly but surely the social systems are being undermined by illegal immigrants and the incoming fraudulently obtained asylum seekers (which in reality could remain without danger in their own country and should help out there with general developments), and thus horrendous sums are handed out for human beings who do not even work in the host country, but rather at the cost of the tax-paying general public wanting to eke out their living - which of course also applies to all those locals who are work-shy minded and themselves would like to cheat through life as social freeloaders. The ability to conceive in the head the effects of the strongly desired multi-culturalism and an immigration freedom without limits, completely eludes the human being. If irrational, ivory-towerish and naive human beings make their unlogical laws and in doing so don't realize that they thereby disregard the pre-given creational-law-based-principle of causality, then with that they prepare the way to their own downfall and at the same time still roll out the red carpet to the chaos, the terrorism and the anarchy.'
From Crusade Against Overpopulation
"The migration issue alone leads to even more excessive, vicious, worldwide problems. For example, refugees do not simply leave their familiar homesteads merely to seek new ones within their own country. Instead, they flee to foreign lands and often to countries that are financially and economically more prosperous than their own homelands. So it transpires that thousands, tens of thousands, indeed hundreds of thousands, even millions of refugees abruptly flee their homelands and swarm into foreign, more prosperous nations. In turn, these nations become swamped with foreigners, causing almost insurmountable problems. Countries that accept these refugees are forced to expend billions of dollars that are paid for by the "host nation’s" industrious inhabitants through hard-earned funds from horrendous taxes.
Very few refugees indeed can truly be categorized as refugees. Among the many thousands there are but a few people who can genuinely be considered and classified as refugees. Only people who have had to flee for their lives when escaping from their homeland are actual refugees. This definition differs from that used by individuals controlling the host countries’ refugee centers, where they provide legitimate refugee status to many thousands of bogus refugees. In doing so, these officials are really forcing the entire country to pay for the refugees’ support. The individuals of authority are incapable of recognizing the fact that this type of refugee is simply a refugee for economic reasons or they simply decline to recognize this fact for pseudo-humanitarian reasons. These "economic" refugees are individuals who do not mind deserting their countries. They flee from their native lands especially in times of confusion and misery when their country really depends on the help and collaboration of each and every citizen, and at a time when their support is urgently needed to help the survival of land, country and life. These refugees cowardly flee their homeland, instead of helping to return the proper order needed to achieve and attain a prospering state and/or prospering nation. This goal can never be achieved by cowardly abandonment, regardless of what type of system is contemplated be that a somewhat normal country or a chaotic nation in the grip of a vicious dictatorship. Each and every country needs its citizens because it is only with their help, and the help of qualified leaders, that a civilized social structure can be secured and achieved, one that is worthwhile to live for because of a suitable economy, politics and a sound standard of living. However, when the cowardly citizens flee their homeland instead of standing up for it, helping it along, and in an emergency even fighting for it, chaos, misery, plight and every ill become subsequently even greater and more insurmountable.
"All evidence pertaining to the refugee problem clearly demonstrates that the flood of refugees and their illegal entry must be rigorously curtailed. If this does not occur, the problems of too many aliens, refugees and the asylum-seeking homeless, along with the generated hatred of strangers, hatred towards other races and the asylum-seekers, become uncontrollable and subsequently lead to unpreventable catastrophes."}
I will continue the fight to stop Illegal Immigration, Over-Immigration & Over-population. As I've had for over 15 years now. |
Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 160
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Friday, September 16, 2016 - 05:11 am: |
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I am curious to know what you have done personally within the last 15 years to prevent illegal immigration other than regurgitating other post and commentary? Have you presented any immigration policy or immigration Solutions - to City County Government? Have you personally crusaded via media blogs websites to promote illegal immigration and overpopulation other than bombarding this forum?
MsMichelle
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 430
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, September 16, 2016 - 05:54 am: |
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Hi Norm,
Unbelievable how accurate Billy foresaw what then was completely unknown!
I may add, that anyone reading a few of Billy's books will understand that this man is truly - really truly - exceptional.
And that he does so - like Socrates - without charging a fee - in our very, very secular world - it truly is - "out of this world"... *)
Salome,
Bill
From Genesis (re. every human's right to know the truth)
173. Bear in mind that the teaching of truth, the spirit, and life, is itself the teaching of Creation, which it allocated to all its creations freely and in equal measure.
174. Through the plan of Creation it is given, that its teaching of the truth is made known or somehow taught to suitable life forms as (cost) free as these then obligingly have to pass them on further, so it is unlawful for any life form, to only pass the received teaching on in exchange for a charge (fees for sold publications do not count as a charge or a profit, because books and publications represent an educational aid, which is produced at great expense and which should be handed on accordingly).
185. For what is given to you and (what) is your property, this also belongs to you - for all-great-time.
186. This is your very personal property, as it is also the personal property of any other life form, so you therefore have no obligation to thank for it, but also no obligation to pay for it in material or any other form.
187. Your only obligation is just this, that you perceive all things in a fine fluidal wise with deference (honour, venerability, veneration, reverence), while you recognize the venerable in them.
188. This is the arranged obligation for you, but not more.
(German Original)
173. Bedenke, dass die Lehre der Wahrheit, Lehre des Geistes, Lehre des Lebens die Lehre der Schöpfung selbst ist, die sie allen ihren Kreationen gleichermassen unentgeltlich zugeordnet hat.
174. Durch den Plan der Schöpfung ist es gegeben, dass ihre Lehre der Wahrheit ebenso unentgeltlich geeigneten Lebensformen kundgetan oder sonstwie beigebracht wird, die diese dann ebenso unentgeltlich und pflichtgemäss weiterzugeben haben, also es widerrechtlich von jeder Lebensform ist, wenn sie die erhaltene Lehre usw. nur gegen ein Entgelt weitergibt (Schriftenverkauf fällt dabei nicht unter ein entgelt oder unter Profit, denn Bücher und Schriften stellen ein Lehrmittel dar, das teuer erstellt und folglich auch dementsprechend wieder weitergegeben werden muss).
185. Denn was dir gegeben und dein Eigentum ist, das gehört dir auch – allgrosszeitlich.
186. Dies ist dir ein ganz persönliches Gut, wie es auch das persönliche Gut jeder andern Lebensform ist, so du also dafür keines Danke verplichtet bist, ebenso aber auch keines Entgeltes in materieller oder sonstiger Form.
187. Deine einzige Verpflichtung ist nur die, dass du alles in Ehrfurcht (Ehrung, Ehrwürdigung, Ehrwürdigkeit, Ehrerbietung) empfindest, indem du das Ehrwürdige darin erkennst.
188. Dies ist die dir eingeordnete Verpflichtung, mehr aber nicht.
(Message edited by indi on September 16, 2016) |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 431
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, September 16, 2016 - 07:01 pm: |
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Salome MsMichelle,
Re. your question ...
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/13579.html#POST74354
(see bottom half) |
Norm3
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Post Number: 55
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Friday, September 16, 2016 - 07:12 pm: |
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Tat_tvam_asi It is amazing. I even forgot how accurate that old Immigration/Refugee info is.
Msmichelle, You think I just do this here. I've donated money even. I'll share what I want in my private life which I have in years past on this board.
Sorry you don't seem to agree with Billy on the Immigration issue!
U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform (Democrat Barbara Jordan Commission)
The Commission’s Guiding Principles
1) Clear goals and priorities must define U.S. immigration policy;
2) Effective policy means enforcement of immigration limits;
3) Regular review is needed to ensure flexibility to adjust to changing circumstances in the United States;
4) Immigration policy should be comprehensible and its implementation efficient;
5) Sponsors are responsible for ensuring that immigrants do not become burdens on the American taxpayer;
6) Immigration policy must protect U.S. workers against unfair competition from foreign workers, with an appropriately higher level of protection for the most vulnerable in our society;
7) Both temporary and permanent admissions categories must be seen as integral parts of a cohesive immigration policy;
8) A sound immigration policy supports Americanization, meaning that immigrants share with Americans such values as the belief in liberty, democracy, and equal opportunity;
9) Fundamental immigration reform requires a period of transition to get from the present system to the new one.
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/illegal-immigration/us-commission-immigration-reform-barbara-jordan-commission.html |
Norm3
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Post Number: 57
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Friday, September 16, 2016 - 02:08 pm: |
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Migrants claiming asylum in Germany have been taking HOLIDAYS in the countries they are 'fleeing' - paid for with benefits cash, report finds
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3786693/Migrants-claiming-asylum-Germany-taking-HOLIDAYS-countries-fleeing-paid-benefits-cash-report-finds.html |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 161
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2016 - 08:50 am: |
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Actually I agree with BEAM on all of his suggestions and solutions for this planet however you are turning into a fanatic(follower) on this forum with all of these links from other sites.... and Followers by the way are the plague of the Trump campaign
MsMichelle
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 587
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2016 - 08:51 am: |
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"Remember, we have an immigration crisis on this planet due to overpopulation, so why should America be spared? Putting up a wall is equivalent to living in Louisiana (USA). You cannot keep the floods out no more than you can keep the people out... This is an effect which will continue to play itself out until we reduce the population. Immigration policies are nothing more than wishful, childlike thinking."
- MsMichelle, PN159
The primary reason most people want to increase immigration into the Western Nations is out of a sense of compassion. However, such a sense of compassion should be tempered with wisdom. To do otherwise, to allow oneself to be overwhelmed by a tidal wave of neediness and subsequently give in to purely compassionate, emotional thinking, is to fall into the 'false humanism' that is mentioned in the Contact Notes.
Compassionately, we want to think that all humans are the same. If we are to take this to extremes, we can also say that all humans and all other animals are the same, and that all lifeforms and all of creation are the same, and that everything that exists and everything that has ever been merely conceived is the same. That thinking moots existence. Conversely, we may want to recognize the differences between you and I. If we are to take this to extremes, I have mine and you have yours, and never the twain shall meet. Obviously, there needs to be some practical wisdom applied to this discernment.
Everyone has a unique set of guidelines that they follow, a set of morals to which they subscribe, even if they are that anything is allowed in life. In the Western world especially, compassionately, many people believe that universalism is tantamount, that what applies to anyone should rightfully apply to everyone. So ingrained is this manner of thinking in the West that it's written into our laws throughout our history. However... not everyone in the world subscribes to universalism.
To emphasize this point: not every culture on Planet Earth holds to the concept of universalism. Whether by virtue of race, or religion/ideology, or nationalism, some peoples see themselves as fundamentally different from others. In the face of this deeply intuited recognition of differences, the Western ideal of universalism breaks down, and can no longer fulfill its utopian promise, much less properly function.
Culture and identity are inextricably intertwined for most people. Every nation and every group of have cultures woven throughout their societies. Especially in the West do we tend to have more delicate cultures, less strictly held-to, more prone to disruption, because our identities are more facile, even exploratory. Rightfully, we cannot strip any society of its culture to serve the purpose of some (non-...) universal ideal. Completely discarding culture will reduce most people, including most of us on this forum, to blithering idiots. Disregarding culture is not only disrespectful of people's identities, not only destructive, it is IMO a form of violence perpetrated upon the innocent.
Overpop is not going to solved, nor even addressed, by arbitrarily dissolving our borders out of an untempered sense of compassion. There are other options open to us, such as reaching out to the nations with exploding populations, showing them how to implement proper population reduction, explaining to them the consequences of ignoring their problem - in other words, helping them to help themselves while maintaining strong limits and borders. Approaching border controls in this manner is wiser than allowing our Western nations to be overwhelmed by a tidal wave of needy people who will only overpopulate any arena in which they grow.
The entire Western World is on the verge of a cluster of civil wars. This is occurring because of promoted, unmitigated immigration. Perhaps these wars have to come to pass for the people of the West to realize that compassion has to be tempered with wisdom, and that universalism is not subscribed to by all. I would hope that, here on this forum at least, we can find a better recommendation to the issue of immigration into Western nations than simply throwing up our hands and drowning in an unorganized sea of needy people.
Life
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 163
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2016 - 04:21 pm: |
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Michael, your post 587 has lots of profound truths and on some level I agree with a need for compassion. We cannot "believe" Walls or increased border controls will resolve this matter regarding immigration. I'm deeply disturbed by the number of people fleeing their countries for America or Europe and creating the possibility of completely eliminating all sense or existence of their "cultures". Personally, I hold the so-called "intellectuals" responsible for abandoning their countries for America without applying their "knowledge and expertise" to resolving issues facing their people. Most people fleeing the so-called troubled countries seek "material gains" and "believe" America or Europe is a place of entertainment, excess and "so-called freedom". At the same time, America is to blame for secretly seeking the "immigrants" for "financial gains". America has to take responsibility for "globalization" and stripping these countries of their "resources" purely for "domination and control". America sends mixed messages to the world, on one hand, we boast or brag about how wonderful we have it here in America, on the other, we complain about "immigrants" coming into America, therefore, until we are honest of the destruction of overpopulation and immigration, we are banging our heads against the Wall, literally.
MsMichelle
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 426
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2016 - 01:02 pm: |
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Understand where Msmichelle is coming from.
Michaelhelfert's statement is balanced with wise compassion; "Obviously, there needs to be some practical wisdom applied to this discernment." Well said.
Kenneth |
Norm3
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Post Number: 58
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2016 - 01:01 pm: |
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Msmichelle I'm sure you've been ignoring the links anyway. So why are they bothering you? Just keep on ignoring them. I don't tell you what you can & can't do on the board. |
Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 125
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2016 - 07:34 pm: |
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Hi Fellows,
What do you think, is that upcoming mystery movie more of a chance for triggering serious reflections or rather another means for further nurturing irrational fears, fatalism and stupid believes in the nonexistent caretaker to in a wonder way make problems go away – by just hard, frequently and brain-deadly obsequious enough begging him?
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/09/15/eidetic-memory-and-overpopulation-at-the-heart-of-inferno/
Am personally seeing it as more of an opportunity. The theme of overpopulation will be on the table. A great occasion for asking the inconvenient questions about the lack of ANY WORKING actions till here. This is a window of opportunity for each of us to between now and at least year end or so adding questions and suggestions into the public debates that will hopefully gain momentum.
We should not let influential parties (media, politicians, international orgs in charge, billionaire philanthropists with their foundations, scientists) get away without demanding from them their own answer to the tabooed, unaddressed problem. It is easy to ridicule someone else’s stupid or simply not understood answer, but in that case unethical to a criminal extent to refuse finding an own answer.
Salome,
Stefan |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 252
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2016 - 10:33 pm: |
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Norm3, keep posting the links please as many are good! |
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