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Stardustwilly
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Post Number: 71
Registered: 01-2015
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tesla! Mediocre?
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1683
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes Votan variety is spice of life and its all fantastic and all but when it comes to the truth just because you project your own false understanding of it doesn't mean that all of a sudden it becomes the truth.
The truth does not move and sway by the whims of people's prejudices nor should it play a servile role to human fallibility by catering to their biases and wishful thinking.
As you may or may not know we are neck deep in putrid religious and new age nonsense passed off by the pronosticators as t if its the truth.
Fantastic what the results are ha? (sarcasm)
So as students of the spiritual teachings we shouldn't for one minute tolerate this BS state of affair whenever and wherever it happens especially on this forum knowing how much damage untruths can do.
We already have so many George Greens of this world.
Aren't we sick and tired of it by now.
We want for once for people to just tell it like it really is and call an apple and apple and friggin an orange and orange for goodness sakes!
Its not that hard.
So if our head is screwed on properly we should never make any excuses for it nor be lenient to those who tell it like it isn't end of stop full stop Hasta La Vista baby.
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 176
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Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 05:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When we call in the factors of the Spiritual Teaching regarding logic, reason , and rational thinking, We as a group must contemplate and understand why a terrorist group like "IS" even Exist during our time. Think for a moment without judgement, criticism, prejudice, and emotional attachment....BEAM himself has said in a recent video presented by Michael Horn, He Has Not Seen Anything Like This..... which requires We as a group to use a present wisdom because We on this planet caused this effect.... therefore it is required that we suspend all of these barriers such as Blame and discover individually and as a group how We allowed this to happen on our watch.... therefore before We die, We need to come clean with ourselves and be honest with ourselves about our involvement in making all of this happen and accept responsibility in hopes We'll be assisting our future personalities with resolving this Mess.... by the way this can also be applied with the insane population madness
MsMichelle
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Michael_k
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 02-2016
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Damn it, this is worth reading to digest the hypocritical insane pathological psychopathic inhuman pattern attitude of degeneration.


Soros to make a killing with European 'forced migration'

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/361376-george-soros-investing-forced-immigration/
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Corey
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Post Number: 1298
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo,

It was a catastrophic mistake to let in all the refugees into Europe in the first place, a catastrophic mistake that needs to be rectified logically. If nothing is done about the refugees, then all of us, those browsing the forums, those vocal, and passively reading, as well as, all of MH's people on his blogs, the core-group, all of us may have to bear witness to Europe being destroyed in real-time in the future, just as many of you living in other countries may have to bear witness to the fall of the USA, etc.

If this all happens, and MsMichelle is correct in her assessment, and we are all able to get multi-lifetime with our mission, we will all indeed have a lot of cleaning up to do with our successor personalities.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Salome/Corey Müske
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Corey
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Post Number: 1300
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Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

one more thing: if these negative catastrophes are allowed to occur, it will also wreak havoc on Russia, and China, and all other countries on Earth, all are countries which we should all hold in an important positive place inside ourselves, for we are all terrestrial humanity, whether we are Russian, Chinese, American, or European, etc., we will all be affected.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Salome/Corey Müske
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Hugo
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Post Number: 276
Registered: 04-2015
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey, I agree!
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 591
Registered: 09-2011
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2016 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"how do you get the masses to agree on anything..."?
- NewInitiation, PN1680

There are practical tools that the army of NGO's and polity makers use, such as public relations campaigns, teaching and writing of didactic position papers, forming of advocacy groups, etc. Combined with the commitment of powerful backers, these methods work, but usually only temporarily. The UN has successfully demonstrated above all that we can all agree on certain things, such as that violence is wrong, that concern for the environment is right, and that human rights are universal. We don't all agree on everything, but we can in theory all agree on a few core points. This is where and how we start to develop consensus.

More long-term, getting 'the masses' to agree to a sense of common sense or common wisdom means getting everyone in touch with themselves, with their core selves, while considering an issue. By unstated agreement, everyone agrees to not litter in clean countries because everyone there has recognized how impactful even small digressions of littering is. In time, the new social mores solidify into culture and tradition. Community boundaries develop between those groups of people that adopt these traditions and those that don't. When new masses of people are introduced into the community that would dissolve those boundaries, challenge and break down the cultures and traditions of the people that previously had built their communities, those old social mores must again be reasoned-out and tested, which means getting everyone in touch with their own sincerity while considering an issue. In this regard, nothing happens overnight, not even with shock and awe.

There are people in this world who care less about building community than destroying it. Perhaps they want to change a culture, discard the traditions, or break down common identities and boundaries. Such people play a necessarily refreshing role, but they need to be kept in check as well. In the extreme, consensus cannot be found between people who intend domination or war. If we completely ignore these people or pretend they don't exist, because we don't want to understand their ideologies and motivations, then we are being irresponsible with our communities. As ever, remaining in denial is sure to lead to self-destruction.

Politics and policy-making is a messy business, never perfect. The only things we all ever completely agree on are spiritual in nature. Anything less, and disagreements are as natural as the differences between you and I. Our challenge is build a functioning society that can recognize and respect these differences, treating both of us fairly and leaving room for us to grow together on the (spiritual) considerations where we find commonalities. Practically, this means using those consensus building not to move public opinion to where we might selfishly want the masses to go, but rather to build a solution which helps everyone.



For the FIGU, what does this mean? If we want to do something to impact politics, lets use the tools we have at hand to focus public attention on what solutions we know will work, and as for the rest, let's not assume responsibility for all the social and cultural problems not of our creation. We are not supposed to solve every problem that exists, mankind has to grow itself through its own endeavors, we are just supposed to keep this rock from blowing up completely. IMHO.
Life
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Stardustwilly
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Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tesla designed the alternating current power system, the AC power motor, and secured 700 different scientific discovery patents, I don't now if all the discoveries attributed to him are true, if he just only built the polyphase ac system, meaning the ac generators, ac transformers, ac motors, just that alone, and in the 1880s, would make him one of the top ten scientific inventors of the last several centuries.
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Votan
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Post Number: 600
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Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2016 - 05:03 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stardustwilly

Thank you for that info. That is nothing of that importance , there is plenty more that even now modern day scientists cannot fathom.
joe
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1688
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its a hard ask Michael
From my experience hardly anyone gives a rats arse.
Truly.
The most common thing that I hear people say is 'I don't give a ****', 'who gives a ****', 'why give a ****', 'take it easy', 'I don't want to hear it', 'don't be stupid you'll never change the world' etc etc etc.
That is a snapshot of the current mindset for ya.
Very enlightening and so uplifting.
We have reached the absolute bottom so what can we expect from bottom feeders except mud.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1689
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Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For the Plejaren to say that Tesla was average suggests that there were other exceptional scientists more deserving of our recognition who hasn't made it to the history books.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 445
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Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newinitiation,

There were many scientists that were overlooked in history that had enormous influence with various world governments, Tesla was very good; to name a few others:

Aristarchus of Samos (c. 310-230 B.C.): Ancient Greek astronomer; realized the heliocentric universe nearly 1,800 years before Copernicus.

Rosalind Franklin (1920-1958): Played a critical role in the discovery of the double helix structure of DNA.

Lise Meitner (1878-1968): Helped discover nuclear fission. Wanted nothing to do with the Manhattan Project and the atomic bomb.

Konstantin Tsiolkovsky (1857-1935): "The Russian father of rocketry," developed the astronautic theory, launching a successful space program.

Alfred Russel Wallace (1823-1913): A truthful theory of human evolution.

Annie Cannon (1863-1941): Astronomer helped Classification Scheme for classifying stars based on their temperature.

Philo Farnsworth (1906-1971): Developed the first video camera tube and the first successful all-electronic television system.

Grace Hopper (1906-1992): Developed the first computer programming compiler and coined the term "debugging."

Hedy Lamar (1914-2000): Developed wireless communication technology that helped make modern cellphones possible.

Emmy Noether(1882-1935): Founded the mathematical branch of modern algebra; most important woman in the history of mathematics.

http://www.livescience.com/46723-most-overlooked-scientists.html

Kenneth
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Votan
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Post Number: 602
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Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newinitiation

The Plejaren cannot always tell the whole story.

He was the greatest scientist of all.
joe
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth I am no scientist but the list of scientific minded people you've put up has got to be deserving of our unappreciative unscientific heads where as Billy said progress is made on the backs of a handful of people only.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe I don't know that he was the greatest scientist of all but he was an exceptional scientist no doubt but you've got to remember that history is written by the victors and the western bias is clearly apparent when they exclude phenomenal Muslim and Asian scientists out of the history books who've contributed so much more to civilization than what we give them credit for which in our case is zilch because we don't know anything about them.
How westy aye?
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1695
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Posted on Friday, October 07, 2016 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am getting real sick and tired of HAARP
As Billy warned about HAARP is dangerous.
Yet it is a silent weapon of mass destruction that is very convenient to use in times of political expediency.
Are people going to tell me that this monster hurricane Matthew making landfall now in Florida was a creation of natural weather conditions?!
I mean every frigging time when a major US election is about to happen and when certain candidate of choice by the ruling clique in power is riddled with scandal after scandal there occurs a major natural disaster to conveniently take people's attention away.

Very convenient timing indeed.
Below is a list of major natural disasters that coincided with the US presidential election year.

2012 Hurricane Sandy (Obama)
2008 Super Tuesday tornado outbreak (Obama)
2004 Hurricane Ivan, Francis and Charley (Bush Jr)
1996 Willamette Valley Flood (Clinton)
1992 Hurricane Andrew (Clinton)

Northeast blackout of 2003 in the northeastern and midwestern United States was a controlled event that was meant to litmus test and gauge the response of the masses.
Although it didn't fall within an election year the point is just as Joe said from Michael's interview these events are deliberately staged for the military to develop contingency plan in case of a major disruption.
The fact that a major event like this could be staged at any time suggests that even the deliberate creation of a major natural disaster is not within the realm of impossibility especially when you consider that the US has the means to carry it out with weapons of mass destruction like HAARP.
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Hugo
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Posted on Friday, October 07, 2016 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Votan, I think the greatest scientist of all would be Gilgamesh if he unleashed his scientific knowledge. With his age and where he was from he must have super scientific knowledge in so many areas. Just think of the Plejaren how many professions they learn in their thousand year lifespan and then imagine Gilgamesh! He is living here on earth now so we must include him as an earthling.
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Votan
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Posted on Friday, October 07, 2016 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth

Yes they discovered certain things but not as many ground braking as Tesla gave the world.

The powers to be does not want his name remembered . There are still many patents that the Americans hold that will be used in the next World War.

Watch this space.
joe
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Votan
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Posted on Friday, October 07, 2016 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newiniation

I am not sure but Tesla was involved with HAARP and he walked away saying it was too dangerous.

Also he developed the earthquake machine.

The particle beam accelerator and more.
joe
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Cpl
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Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2016 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tesla didn't develop these things, though he did develop so much. He developed the technology and discovered principles that led to others developing earthquake producing tech etc. He realized the potential to change the weather. Others would create the specific tech and do that, which eventually led to the former Soviet Union being taken to the World Court and ordered to desist.
Chris

Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Norm3
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 07-2016
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2016 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WikiLeaks - Pope has 'PROOF' of ALIEN LIFE: Sensational claim by legendary astronaut in leaked email

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/719093/alien-life-UFOs-Edgar-D-Mitchell-Hillary-Clinton-Wikileaks-Julian-Assange
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Ilovebilly
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Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2016 - 02:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I reckon Tesla was working on storage banks
his main symbol was a city skyline
thats when he saw his first invention, then the first invention parts where symbols for most of his inventions

he knew the schematics of his inventions in visions, he could see it working

i read his life story
i know why he loved doves so much too

he was as brilliant as you or i, its just what he stored in storage banks

Salome
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Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.

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